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New England @ Pittsburgh (1 Viewer)

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I am terrified of Bill Belichek. The early games in 2002 still haunt me (Raiders/Patriots) to this day. They exploited our pass defense more than any team I have seen watching the Steelers for lots of years.
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Belichick is a great coach but are your really terrified of him? I don't have the stats in front of me but Bill Cowher has a very good record against BB, including a playoff win (maybe two). Other than the 2001 playoff game, which was decided by 2 special teams blunders and the 2002 opener, the Steelers have done pretty well against Belichick.

And if really want to give credit to exposing the 2001 & 2002 Steelers secondary, I think you should look at the Cincinnati Bengals. It was the Bengals and Jon Kitna that did that in their second meeting in 2001.

I know that Belichick is a great coach, probably the tops in the NFL, but I think being terrified of him is going a bit overboard.

 
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Dillon will be a non-factor.
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Quoting this for prosperity. :rotflmao:
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And I'm quoting you for posterity :rolleyes:
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I honestly don't think Dillon will be much of a factor either. The main difference will be the Steelers will have to respect the Pats running game this time around rather than simply sitting back in nickel and dime coverage. Dillon will have the type of day that other running backs have against the Steelers (70-80 yds rushing). For the Pats to win, they are going to have to come out passing and continue passing (against a fairly average to mediocre steelers secondary). Also, I do believe that the Pats will need one big play (special teams or defensive td) in order to win this game. For the steelers to win, they have to establish the run game early in the game. It's critical that they take an early lead. If the game remains close and it comes down to coaching and big plays, the Steelers are in trouble.

 
And if really want to give credit to exposing the 2001 & 2002 Steelers secondary, I think you should look at the Cincinnati Bengals. It was the Bengals and Jon Kitna that did that in their second meeting in 2001.
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True, I remember that shootout the year before. Kitna had over 400 yards passing what a shootout that was.
Belichick is a great coach but are your really terrified of him?
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Strong choice of a word, maybe not terrified, but that game still scares me. The game was almost unwatchable if I remember correctly. It is not out of the question that he can pull something like that off again. The Steelers were crushed that early game in 2002, much more so than what the Steelers did to the Pats earlier this year. It's a feeling I'm not used to, but a feeling that is common to fans of lots of other teams when they are getting steamrolled and can't make a stop on defense....hard to watch.
 
I am terrified of Bill Belichek. The early games in 2002 still haunt me (Raiders/Patriots) to this day. They exploited our pass defense more than any team I have seen watching the Steelers for lots of years.
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Belichick is a great coach but are your really terrified of him? I don't have the stats in front of me but Bill Cowher has a very good record against BB, including a playoff win (maybe two). Other than the 2001 playoff game, which was decided by 2 special teams blunders and the 2002 opener, the Steelers have done pretty well against Belichick.

And if really want to give credit to exposing the 2001 & 2002 Steelers secondary, I think you should look at the Cincinnati Bengals. It was the Bengals and Jon Kitna that did that in their second meeting in 2001.

I know that Belichick is a great coach, probably the tops in the NFL, but I think being terrified of him is going a bit overboard.
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Cowher is 8-4 all-time against Belichick (1-1 in playoffs).
 
I am terrified of Bill Belichek.  The early games in 2002 still haunt me (Raiders/Patriots) to this day.  They exploited our pass defense more than any team I have seen watching the Steelers for lots of years.
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Belichick is a great coach but are your really terrified of him? I don't have the stats in front of me but Bill Cowher has a very good record against BB, including a playoff win (maybe two). Other than the 2001 playoff game, which was decided by 2 special teams blunders and the 2002 opener, the Steelers have done pretty well against Belichick.

And if really want to give credit to exposing the 2001 & 2002 Steelers secondary, I think you should look at the Cincinnati Bengals. It was the Bengals and Jon Kitna that did that in their second meeting in 2001.

I know that Belichick is a great coach, probably the tops in the NFL, but I think being terrified of him is going a bit overboard.
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Cowher is 8-4 all-time against Belichick (1-1 in playoffs).
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How much of that was when he was with a talentless Browns team?
 
I am terrified of Bill Belichek.  The early games in 2002 still haunt me (Raiders/Patriots) to this day.  They exploited our pass defense more than any team I have seen watching the Steelers for lots of years.
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Belichick is a great coach but are your really terrified of him? I don't have the stats in front of me but Bill Cowher has a very good record against BB, including a playoff win (maybe two). Other than the 2001 playoff game, which was decided by 2 special teams blunders and the 2002 opener, the Steelers have done pretty well against Belichick.

And if really want to give credit to exposing the 2001 & 2002 Steelers secondary, I think you should look at the Cincinnati Bengals. It was the Bengals and Jon Kitna that did that in their second meeting in 2001.

I know that Belichick is a great coach, probably the tops in the NFL, but I think being terrified of him is going a bit overboard.
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Cowher is 8-4 all-time against Belichick (1-1 in playoffs).
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I couln't remember if the Steelers 1997 victory against the Patriots was a Belichick team or not. I guess that was Pete Carrol... :confused:
 
I am terrified of Bill Belichek. The early games in 2002 still haunt me (Raiders/Patriots) to this day. They exploited our pass defense more than any team I have seen watching the Steelers for lots of years.
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Belichick is a great coach but are your really terrified of him? I don't have the stats in front of me but Bill Cowher has a very good record against BB, including a playoff win (maybe two). Other than the 2001 playoff game, which was decided by 2 special teams blunders and the 2002 opener, the Steelers have done pretty well against Belichick.

And if really want to give credit to exposing the 2001 & 2002 Steelers secondary, I think you should look at the Cincinnati Bengals. It was the Bengals and Jon Kitna that did that in their second meeting in 2001.

I know that Belichick is a great coach, probably the tops in the NFL, but I think being terrified of him is going a bit overboard.
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Cowher is 8-4 all-time against Belichick (1-1 in playoffs).
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How much of that was when he was with a talentless Browns team?
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Belichick is 2-1 as head coach of the Patriots vs the Steelers (including the playoff win).
 
I am terrified of Bill Belichek. The early games in 2002 still haunt me (Raiders/Patriots) to this day. They exploited our pass defense more than any team I have seen watching the Steelers for lots of years.
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Belichick is a great coach but are your really terrified of him? I don't have the stats in front of me but Bill Cowher has a very good record against BB, including a playoff win (maybe two). Other than the 2001 playoff game, which was decided by 2 special teams blunders and the 2002 opener, the Steelers have done pretty well against Belichick.

And if really want to give credit to exposing the 2001 & 2002 Steelers secondary, I think you should look at the Cincinnati Bengals. It was the Bengals and Jon Kitna that did that in their second meeting in 2001.

I know that Belichick is a great coach, probably the tops in the NFL, but I think being terrified of him is going a bit overboard.
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Cowher is 8-4 all-time against Belichick (1-1 in playoffs).
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I couln't remember if the Steelers 1997 victory against the Patriots was a Belichick team or not. I guess that was Pete Carrol... :confused:
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Correct. Belichick was DC of the Jets under Parcells that year.
 
The Rams beat the Patriots in Foxboro in the 2001 regular season...
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Whats your point? For every case you bring up where a team lost the 2nd time around, I can bring up 2 cases where the team won the first and 2nd time around. You are bringing up an isolated example.
 
The Rams beat the Patriots in Foxboro in the 2001 regular season...
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Whats your point? For every case you bring up where a team lost the 2nd time around, I can bring up 2 cases where the team won the first and 2nd time around. You are bringing up an isolated example.
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Actually I think you are making my point...
 
The Rams beat the Patriots in Foxboro in the 2001 regular season...
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Whats your point? For every case you bring up where a team lost the 2nd time around, I can bring up 2 cases where the team won the first and 2nd time around. You are bringing up an isolated example.
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Actually I think you are making my point...
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I guess I"m missing your point then.........
 
The Rams beat the Patriots in Foxboro in the 2001 regular season...
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Whats your point? For every case you bring up where a team lost the 2nd time around, I can bring up 2 cases where the team won the first and 2nd time around. You are bringing up an isolated example.
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Actually I think you are making my point...
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I guess I"m missing your point then.........
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His point, as always, is......(paraphrased) : "Bill Cowher sucks, and can't win the big game. Furthermore, he has bony girl arms. Steelers suck."

 
The Rams beat the Patriots in Foxboro in the 2001 regular season...
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Whats your point? For every case you bring up where a team lost the 2nd time around, I can bring up 2 cases where the team won the first and 2nd time around. You are bringing up an isolated example.
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Actually I think you are making my point...
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I guess I"m missing your point then.........
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His point, as always, is......(paraphrased) : "Bill Cowher sucks, and can't win the big game. Furthermore, he has bony girl arms. Steelers suck."
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:chuckles:Its funny that I have ripped just about every playoff team, but only Steelers fans can't take it. Why are they so sensitive?

 
Don't play it off like you casually make commentary about every team. As a Browns fan, I'm sure you hate Pittsburgh as much as I hate (pity) the Browns, but your anti-Cowher rhetoric is more feverish than any other. Either you want him to be fired so the Browns can hire him, or you're pissed off and jealous that the Browns had him in house and rather than promote him, he went to Pittsburgh.

 
The Rams beat the Patriots in Foxboro in the 2001 regular season...
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Whats your point? For every case you bring up where a team lost the 2nd time around, I can bring up 2 cases where the team won the first and 2nd time around. You are bringing up an isolated example.
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Actually I think you are making my point...
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I guess I"m missing your point then.........
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His point, as always, is......(paraphrased) : "Bill Cowher sucks, and can't win the big game. Furthermore, he has bony girl arms. Steelers suck."
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:chuckles:Its funny that I have ripped just about every playoff team, but only Steelers fans can't take it. Why are they so sensitive?
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Give me a break...we can take what you can dish out but it's like you don't even have a team you like, you only have a team you hate. What would you guess is the percentage of your posts talking about the Browns this year vs your tired dead horse flogging of the Steelers?

 
How are the steelers not favored?It's in Pittsburg. They already owned them once this year. They have a great ground game.I think too much is being based on the New England-Indy game. New England only scored 20 points against a below average defense in Indy. And they allowed Brady to get pressured. I think you'll see a much nastier rush from the Steelers.My prediction is 20-7 for Pittsburg (With one defensive TD).I really believe that the smart money will go on Pittsburg.

 
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How are the steelers not favored?It's in Pittsburg. They already owned them once this year. They have a great ground game.I think too much is being based on the New England-Indy game. New England only scored 20 points against a below average defense in Indy. And they allowed Brady to get pressured. I think you'll see a much nastier rush from the Steelers.My prediction is 20-7 for Pittsburg (With one defensive TD).I really believe that the smart money will go on Pittsburg.
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It's a "what have you done for me lately" league and lately the Pats beat up on the colts and the STeelers squeaked by the Jets. This is the sole reason the Pats are favored. If this game were being played 3 weeks ago, I can assure you the STeelers would be favored. Regardless, it's gonna be a dogfight.
 
Give me a break...we can take what you can dish out but it's like you don't even have a team you like, you only have a team you hate.
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Amen to that. Cleveland is sports hell.1997: Elway wins supr bowl1998: Elway wins another super bowl and wins MVP1999: The Rams, who originally were the Cleveland Rams, win the super bowl.2000: The Ravens and Art Modell win the super bowl as built by Ozzie Newsome.2001: The Patriots coached by rejected head coach Bill Belichick win the super bowl.2002: A respite.2003: Belichick wins another super bowl and is well on his way to becoming the greatest coach in the NFl and perhaps ever.2004: Patriots vs Steelers in the AFC title game. :X Its like every NFL season its time to kick Cleveland fans around again.I'd rather neither team wins, but the Patriots will win.
 
Give me a break...we can take what you can dish out but it's like you don't even have a team you like, you only have a team you hate.
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Amen to that. Cleveland is sports hell.1997: Elway wins supr bowl1998: Elway wins another super bowl and wins MVP1999: The Rams, who originally were the Cleveland Rams, win the super bowl.2000: The Ravens and Art Modell win the super bowl as built by Ozzie Newsome.2001: The Patriots coached by rejected head coach Bill Belichick win the super bowl.2002: A respite.2003: Belichick wins another super bowl and is well on his way to becoming the greatest coach in the NFl and perhaps ever.2004: Patriots vs Steelers in the AFC title game. :X Its like every NFL season its time to kick Cleveland fans around again.I'd rather neither team wins, but the Patriots will win.
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wasn't 2002 the year the river burst into flames? You can add that to your list then.
 
As much as I hate to say it, NE is by far the best team left in the playoffs.It's really hard to judge just how good Atlanta is because they didn't have to play against a defense last week.I think NE beats Phillys brains out in the Superbowl. Sorry Wood.

 
Give me a break...we can take what you can dish out but it's like you don't even have a team you like, you only have a team you hate.
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Amen to that. Cleveland is sports hell.1997: Elway wins supr bowl1998: Elway wins another super bowl and wins MVP1999: The Rams, who originally were the Cleveland Rams, win the super bowl.2000: The Ravens and Art Modell win the super bowl as built by Ozzie Newsome.2001: The Patriots coached by rejected head coach Bill Belichick win the super bowl.2002: A respite.2003: Belichick wins another super bowl and is well on his way to becoming the greatest coach in the NFl and perhaps ever.2004: Patriots vs Steelers in the AFC title game. :X Its like every NFL season its time to kick Cleveland fans around again.I'd rather neither team wins, but the Patriots will win.
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wasn't 2002 the year the river burst into flames? You can add that to your list then.
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Actually 2002 was the year the Browns lost to the Steelers in the playoffs. They had a huge lead and should've won but collapsed at the end.
 
Give me a break...we can take what you can dish out but it's like you don't even have a team you like, you only have a team you hate.
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Amen to that. Cleveland is sports hell.1997: Elway wins supr bowl1998: Elway wins another super bowl and wins MVP1999: The Rams, who originally were the Cleveland Rams, win the super bowl.2000: The Ravens and Art Modell win the super bowl as built by Ozzie Newsome.2001: The Patriots coached by rejected head coach Bill Belichick win the super bowl.2002: A respite.2003: Belichick wins another super bowl and is well on his way to becoming the greatest coach in the NFl and perhaps ever.2004: Patriots vs Steelers in the AFC title game. :X Its like every NFL season its time to kick Cleveland fans around again.I'd rather neither team wins, but the Patriots will win.
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wasn't 2002 the year the river burst into flames? You can add that to your list then.
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Actually 2002 was the year the Browns lost to the Steelers in the playoffs. They had a huge lead and should've won but collapsed at the end.
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which year was it that CLE lost to PIT 3 times in the same season, being the 1st team to have that happen to them IIRC??
 
Give me a break...we can take what you can dish out but it's like you don't even have a team you like, you only have a team you hate.
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Amen to that. Cleveland is sports hell.1997: Elway wins supr bowl1998: Elway wins another super bowl and wins MVP1999: The Rams, who originally were the Cleveland Rams, win the super bowl.2000: The Ravens and Art Modell win the super bowl as built by Ozzie Newsome.2001: The Patriots coached by rejected head coach Bill Belichick win the super bowl.2002: A respite.2003: Belichick wins another super bowl and is well on his way to becoming the greatest coach in the NFl and perhaps ever.2004: Patriots vs Steelers in the AFC title game. :X Its like every NFL season its time to kick Cleveland fans around again.I'd rather neither team wins, but the Patriots will win.
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wasn't 2002 the year the river burst into flames? You can add that to your list then.
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Actually 2002 was the year the Browns lost to the Steelers in the playoffs. They had a huge lead and should've won but collapsed at the end.
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which year was it that CLE lost to PIT 3 times in the same season, being the 1st team to have that happen to them IIRC??
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The Steelers beat the Browns twice in the regular season and then in a playoff game in 1994 and in 2002. The last two Browns playoff games were losses to the Steelers. :bag:
 
Any Steelers fans care to explain how Big Ben can do any better than Peyton Manning against these Pats? Any Steelers fans care to explain how Duce Staley and Jerome Bettis will have any more success against the Pats run D than edge did? Pats control the ball all game long, win 17-9.

 
Any Steelers fans care to explain how Big Ben can do any better than Peyton Manning against these Pats? Any Steelers fans care to explain how Duce Staley and Jerome Bettis will have any more success against the Pats run D than edge did? Pats control the ball all game long, win 17-9.
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My guess is the Steelers will use a game plan similar to the one they used to beat the Patriots on Halloween. Ben Roethlisberger had no problems against this same Patriots defense and the Steelers were able to run all over the them.In addition the Steeler's defense is worlds better than Indy's, especially against the run. I doubt that Dillon will be able to put up 140+ yards against the Steelers since only 1 back has run for more than 100 yds in a game against them all year.This is going to be one tough game and the winner will probably be the team that makes the fewest mistakes.
 
Any Steelers fans care to explain how Big Ben can do any better than Peyton Manning against these Pats? Any Steelers fans care to explain how Duce Staley and Jerome Bettis will have any more success against the Pats run D than edge did? Pats control the ball all game long, win 17-9.
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Roethlisberger vs. Manning is irrelevant. The argument that "the Patriots shut Manning down, so imagine what they'll do against Big Ben..." is inherently flawed. They are two COMPLETELY different styles of offense. Roethlisberger doesn't need to throw for 5,000 yards and 50 TDs in a season for Pittsburgh to win games.Likewise, you can't say "Well, they stopped Edge, so surely they can stop Bettis and Duce..." You're completely ignoring the offensive line play. While it's probably true that Edge is a more talented back than either of those two, the Steelers are a running team with the best blocking offensive line in football. They ran on the Patriots with tremendous success in October. If they can do that again, they should win the game. If the Patriots stack 8 against the run and leave the CBs in man coverage down the field, it'll be up to Roethlisberger to hit those deep routes. He was able to do that quite well during the regular season, if he acclimated to the playoff atmosphere and is 100% healthy, they can exploit those single coverage matchups. Should be an interesting game....
 
Any Steelers fans care to explain how Big Ben can do any better than Peyton Manning against these Pats? Any Steelers fans care to explain how Duce Staley and Jerome Bettis will have any more success against the Pats run D than edge did? Pats control the ball all game long, win 17-9.
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What's different now with the Patriots D vs Week 8, except Seymour is gimpy? Back then, we ran the ball 45 times for over 200 yards. Roethlisberger was threw the ball at a 75% completion rate, 200 yards and 2 TDs.Did the Pats D eat some magic beans since then? The Steelers O-Line is Dominating everyone theyve faced this year.
 
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Any Steelers fans care to explain how Big Ben can do any better than Peyton Manning against these Pats? Any Steelers fans care to explain how Duce Staley and Jerome Bettis will have any more success against the Pats run D than edge did? Pats control the ball all game long, win 17-9.
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What's different now with the Patriots D vs Week 8, except Seymour is gimpy? Back then, we ran the ball 45 times for over 200 yards. Roethlisberger was threw the ball at a 75% completion rate, 200 yards and 2 TDs.Did the Pats D eat some magic beans since then? The Steelers O-Line is Dominating everyone theyve faced this year.
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Whats different is back then Belicheck had only... what 6 or 7 maybe 8 weeks of film on Ben. Now he has 15. But besides that, look at the reason why the Steelers were able to run the ball. Brady came out and made mistakes early and the Pats were in an instant hole. They were never able to make a real attempt to establish the run, and likewise the Steelers were able to run the ball down the Pats throat with such a commanding lead. I expect the game to be totally different than the first one. Oh, not to mention the fact that Corey Dillon did not play in that game.
 
But besides that, look at the reason why the Steelers were able to run the ball. Brady came out and made mistakes early and the Pats were in an instant hole. The Steelers Oline, Tuman and Krieder kicked the #### out of the Pats' D front 7.
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Any Steelers fans care to explain how Big Ben can do any better than Peyton Manning against these Pats? Any Steelers fans care to explain how Duce Staley and Jerome Bettis will have any more success against the Pats run D than edge did? Pats control the ball all game long, win 17-9.
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What's different now with the Patriots D vs Week 8, except Seymour is gimpy? Back then, we ran the ball 45 times for over 200 yards. Roethlisberger was threw the ball at a 75% completion rate, 200 yards and 2 TDs.Did the Pats D eat some magic beans since then? The Steelers O-Line is Dominating everyone theyve faced this year.
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Whats different is back then Belicheck had only... what 6 or 7 maybe 8 weeks of film on Ben. Now he has 15. But besides that, look at the reason why the Steelers were able to run the ball. Brady came out and made mistakes early and the Pats were in an instant hole. They were never able to make a real attempt to establish the run, and likewise the Steelers were able to run the ball down the Pats throat with such a commanding lead. I expect the game to be totally different than the first one. Oh, not to mention the fact that Corey Dillon did not play in that game.
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What did the Steelers having the lead have to do with their ability to move the ball on the ground? If anything, this should have hindered them, as the Patriots knew they were running on almost every down. Please explain this take to me....
 
Any Steelers fans care to explain how Big Ben can do any better than Peyton Manning against these Pats? Any Steelers fans care to explain how Duce Staley and Jerome Bettis will have any more success against the Pats run D than edge did? Pats control the ball all game long, win 17-9.
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What's different now with the Patriots D vs Week 8, except Seymour is gimpy? Back then, we ran the ball 45 times for over 200 yards. Roethlisberger was threw the ball at a 75% completion rate, 200 yards and 2 TDs.Did the Pats D eat some magic beans since then? The Steelers O-Line is Dominating everyone theyve faced this year.
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Whats different is back then Belicheck had only... what 6 or 7 maybe 8 weeks of film on Ben. Now he has 15. But besides that, look at the reason why the Steelers were able to run the ball. Brady came out and made mistakes early and the Pats were in an instant hole. They were never able to make a real attempt to establish the run, and likewise the Steelers were able to run the ball down the Pats throat with such a commanding lead. I expect the game to be totally different than the first one. Oh, not to mention the fact that Corey Dillon did not play in that game.
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What did the Steelers having the lead have to do with their ability to move the ball on the ground? If anything, this should have hindered them, as the Patriots knew they were running on almost every down. Please explain this take to me....
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Well as the game goes on and a team runs the ball more and more a defense gets tired, making it easier to run. I'm not taking anything away from the Steelers, they have a great running game. I just don't see how the Pats will let Pitt run the ball as well as they did last time.
 
Any Steelers fans care to explain how Big Ben can do any better than Peyton Manning against these Pats? Any Steelers fans care to explain how Duce Staley and Jerome Bettis will have any more success against the Pats run D than edge did? Pats control the ball all game long, win 17-9.
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What's different now with the Patriots D vs Week 8, except Seymour is gimpy? Back then, we ran the ball 45 times for over 200 yards. Roethlisberger was threw the ball at a 75% completion rate, 200 yards and 2 TDs.Did the Pats D eat some magic beans since then? The Steelers O-Line is Dominating everyone theyve faced this year.
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Whats different is back then Belicheck had only... what 6 or 7 maybe 8 weeks of film on Ben. Now he has 15. But besides that, look at the reason why the Steelers were able to run the ball. Brady came out and made mistakes early and the Pats were in an instant hole. They were never able to make a real attempt to establish the run, and likewise the Steelers were able to run the ball down the Pats throat with such a commanding lead. I expect the game to be totally different than the first one. Oh, not to mention the fact that Corey Dillon did not play in that game.
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What did the Steelers having the lead have to do with their ability to move the ball on the ground? If anything, this should have hindered them, as the Patriots knew they were running on almost every down. Please explain this take to me....
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Well as the game goes on and a team runs the ball more and more a defense gets tired, making it easier to run. I'm not taking anything away from the Steelers, they have a great running game. I just don't see how the Pats will let Pitt run the ball as well as they did last time.
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Trust me, they won't have a choice.And for all the Roethlisberger naysayers out there, let the Pats put 8 in the box and I GUARANTEE you Ben will make their weak corners pay.So, if you're the Patriots, what do you do?
 
Let's look at the first meeting.FIRST QUARTER+Steelers go 3 and out.+Patriots start at their 35, get a couple first downs (one on penalty) and kick FG (3-0 NWE)+Steelers go 3 and out.+Patriots go 3 and out.+Steelers start from their 20, get 2 first downs and score a TD. Ben hits throws of 14, 21 and a TD pass of 47 yards. (7-3 PIT)+Patriots get ball on own 29. Brady sacked on first down. Brady FUMBLES on second down. Steelers recover.+Steelers take over at Patriots' 27 and score a TD. (14-3 PIT)+Patriots have ball and brady's first pass is INTERCEPTED for a TD. (21-3 PIT)SECOND QUARTER+Patriots go 3 and out, including a penalty and a sack.+Steelers get 1 first down and punt.+Patriots start at their 13. They get one first down and then Brady is INTERCEPTED. Apparently its a touchback.+Steelers get ball on their 20. They execute a great drive. Four first downs. However, they bog down at the Patriots 1 yard line and kick a FG. (24-3 PIT)+After a fine kick return, Patriots start at their 40 and execute a fine drive, collecting 4 first downs and scoring a TD. Brady hits passes of 13, 14, 10, and 17. (24-10 PIT)+Steelers get 2 first downs but bog down just outside of FG range and half ends.THIRD QUARTER+Patriots get ball and on second play Faulk FUMBLES - Steelers recover.+Steelers start with another short field at the Patriots' 17 and punch it in. (31-10 PIT)+Patriots execute another find drive and get 4 first downs, but bog down at the Steelers 7 and kick a FG. (31-13 PIT)+Steelers devastate the Patriots with an 8:29 drive. They run 12 consecutive times and go from their 28 to the Patriots' 11 and kick a FG. (34-13 PIT)+Patriots get one first down and then punt.FOURTH QUARTER+Steelers get two first downs, burn 5:13 off the clock and punt.+Patriots get 4 first downs and score a TD. (34-20 PIT)+Steelers burn the last 6:27 off the clock with a combo of running and passing to end the game.What we see is that the Steelers got horde of turnovers to win the first meeting. They started not one but two drives in the RED ZONE and scored 6. They also picked off Brady and ran it back for a third TD.The Steelers caught all the breaks. You could probably credit a hostile crowd for making noise and causing some confusion for the Patriots' offense. Without those turnovers, you can erase 21 points from the Steelers score and its 20-14 Patriots. This is the first time Brady and Belichick are on the road in the playoffs. The key is "Will the Patriots make those mistakes again?"

 
Let's look at the first meeting.FIRST QUARTER+Steelers go 3 and out.+Patriots start at their 35, get a couple first downs (one on penalty) and kick FG (3-0 NWE)+Steelers go 3 and out.+Patriots go 3 and out.+Steelers start from their 20, get 2 first downs and score a TD. Ben hits throws of 14, 21 and a TD pass of 47 yards. (7-3 PIT)+Patriots get ball on own 29. Brady sacked on first down. Brady FUMBLES on second down. Steelers recover.+Steelers take over at Patriots' 27 and score a TD. (14-3 PIT)+Patriots have ball and brady's first pass is INTERCEPTED for a TD. (21-3 PIT)SECOND QUARTER+Patriots go 3 and out, including a penalty and a sack.+Steelers get 1 first down and punt.+Patriots start at their 13. They get one first down and then Brady is INTERCEPTED. Apparently its a touchback.+Steelers get ball on their 20. They execute a great drive. Four first downs. However, they bog down at the Patriots 1 yard line and kick a FG. (24-3 PIT)+After a fine kick return, Patriots start at their 40 and execute a fine drive, collecting 4 first downs and scoring a TD. Brady hits passes of 13, 14, 10, and 17. (24-10 PIT)+Steelers get 2 first downs but bog down just outside of FG range and half ends.THIRD QUARTER+Patriots get ball and on second play Faulk FUMBLES - Steelers recover.+Steelers start with another short field at the Patriots' 17 and punch it in. (31-10 PIT)+Patriots execute another find drive and get 4 first downs, but bog down at the Steelers 7 and kick a FG. (31-13 PIT)+Steelers devastate the Patriots with an 8:29 drive. They run 12 consecutive times and go from their 28 to the Patriots' 11 and kick a FG. (34-13 PIT)+Patriots get one first down and then punt.FOURTH QUARTER+Steelers get two first downs, burn 5:13 off the clock and punt.+Patriots get 4 first downs and score a TD. (34-20 PIT)+Steelers burn the last 6:27 off the clock with a combo of running and passing to end the game.What we see is that the Steelers got horde of turnovers to win the first meeting. They started not one but two drives in the RED ZONE and scored 6. They also picked off Brady and ran it back for a third TD.The Steelers caught all the breaks. You could probably credit a hostile crowd for making noise and causing some confusion for the Patriots' offense. Without those turnovers, you can erase 21 points from the Steelers score and its 20-14 Patriots. This is the first time Brady and Belichick are on the road in the playoffs. The key is "Will the Patriots make those mistakes again?"
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Generally when a team wins, they get the "breaks" along the way. The steelers physically dominated that game regardless of breaks and no objective fan can say differently. This time around could very easily be a different story but pats fans shouldn't make excuses for that loss---they got whipped. And if you want to play that game, surely you would agree that the Pats victory over the steelers in 2001 had a large part to do with these "breaks" that you point out.
 
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