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Oh, sure. It's just that we Atlanta fans have bad memories of Reeves wasting an early draft pick on Reggie Kelly because "you can never have enough TE".Amazingly enough, sometimes teams put 2 TEs on the field at the same time. And in some really silly offenses, their base set is run with two TEs.Not saying its likely, just throwing it out there as a possibility.Crumpler was signed to a long-term deal last year.
Its not an argument with Capella if you arent getting insulted and your argument disparaged without any relevant evidence to the contrary.So that's your answer to every selection then? There's never been a first round bust because these guys are infallible?I'm sure you know more about Matt Jones than the guys who scouted him and drafted him.EDIT TO ADD: Most of the time he was throwing in college? So you really havent seen him play then...Plenty?Last I checked, he was throwing the ball most of the time in college, and one exhibition game tells you ####.Coaches have plenty of tape of Jones playing WR in college and at the Senior Bowl.I don't get this. He's fast and tall. :stillers: He's never played WR on a meaningful level, we have no idea how he catches the ball, no idea how he runs routes and no idea if he can go over the middle and make a big catch.
Absolutely a horrible selection. Jacksonville fans should be swan-diving off Alltel today.
These guys get too tied up in measurables and numbers. That's how Williamson goes over BMW, despite Mike being a far better fundamental wideout...but a tenth of a second slower on the .40 time.
Jacksonville, say hello to Mike Mamula for me.
Get out of here with that garbage. They selected a college quarterback to play WR in the NFL because he's speedy. Last I checked, nobody is running a track team here.
Stupid. How do you leave a polished receiver like Clayton on the board for some guy who's going to get lit up.
This is absurd. Jones and Clayton are FAR different types of players.So that's your answer to every selection then? There's never been a first round bust because these guys are infallible?
Get out of here with that garbage. They selected a college quarterback to play WR in the NFL because he's speedy. Last I checked, nobody is running a track team here.
Stupid. How do you leave a polished receiver like Clayton on the board for some guy who's going to get lit up.
Didnt they have Kelly first, and then add Alge as a "2nd TE"?Oh, sure. It's just that we Atlanta fans have bad memories of Reeves wasting an early draft pick on Reggie Kelly because "you can never have enough TE".Amazingly enough, sometimes teams put 2 TEs on the field at the same time. And in some really silly offenses, their base set is run with two TEs.Not saying its likely, just throwing it out there as a possibility.
And apparently had the best hands of any WR there, Mark Clayton included.Coaches have plenty of tape of Jones playing WR in college and at the Senior Bowl.
Absolutely a horrible selection. Jacksonville fans should be swan-diving off Alltel today.
Yes, but this is not one of the need areas. To me, it'd be like Detroit's pick of Mike Williams which I didn't like.I imagine they could put 2 TE's on the field at once if they wanted too....
Ummm, no I'm not from Det.... maybe you should read rather than just looking at the pictures.Your from Detroit and have yet to make a Super Bowl. Plus you have drafted 3 WR's in a row in the first round. Someone tell Matt Millin that it is easy to find a WR!When is the last time the Lions have won the central???GB fans are funny...
You guys really think you were only 1 D player away from being a SB team.
Rodgers was the best pick for this FRANCHISE, maybe not next year. I didn't know drafts were built around 1 season goals though.
It wouldn't take much to beat out that slug.Going out on a limb with that one?
And as Floyd Reese said, hes the best athlete in the draft in the past half-decade. Combined with great hands, ability to use his body, and the smartness of a QB in the passing game, hes a great pick, even at #21.And apparently had the best hands of any WR there, Mark Clayton included.Coaches have plenty of tape of Jones playing WR in college and at the Senior Bowl.
Absolutely a horrible selection. Jacksonville fans should be swan-diving off Alltel today.
Some teams, especially playoff teams with no huge holes to fill, have a crazy notion of drafting BPA.Yes, but this is not one of the need areas. To me, it'd be like Detroit's pick of Mike Williams which I didn't like.I imagine they could put 2 TE's on the field at once if they wanted too....
WHAT FILM IS THERE? He was a college quarterback. He played a little in 2001 then took over as the starting QB in 2002. So we're talking about some 4-year old game film and a Senior Bowl.Not the point i was making. Capella says we can't tell anything from the game film teams have on Jones, and that he is being drafted on only measurables. He hasnt seen these films, or what they are basing his selection on.That's as naive as saying that every draft pick is good because they were drafted by pro scouts. It was only one team that took him, not every team that scouted him.I'm sure you know more about Matt Jones than the guys who scouted him and drafted him.Plenty?Last I checked, he was throwing the ball most of the time in college, and one exhibition game tells you ####.Coaches have plenty of tape of Jones playing WR in college and at the Senior Bowl.
Absolutely a horrible selection. Jacksonville fans should be swan-diving off Alltel today.
These guys get too tied up in measurables and numbers. That's how Williamson goes over BMW, despite Mike being a far better fundamental wideout...but a tenth of a second slower on the .40 time.
Jacksonville, say hello to Mike Mamula for me.
go ahead, it's your funeral
When have I insulted you before? 10 minutes ago I've had never even heard of you.EDIT: And what evidence? He's a project moving to WR after spending 3 years throwing the ball.Its not an argument with Capella if you arent getting insulted and your argument disparaged without any relevant evidence to the contrary.So that's your answer to every selection then? There's never been a first round bust because these guys are infallible?I'm sure you know more about Matt Jones than the guys who scouted him and drafted him.EDIT TO ADD: Most of the time he was throwing in college? So you really havent seen him play then...Plenty?Last I checked, he was throwing the ball most of the time in college, and one exhibition game tells you ####.Coaches have plenty of tape of Jones playing WR in college and at the Senior Bowl.
Absolutely a horrible selection. Jacksonville fans should be swan-diving off Alltel today.
These guys get too tied up in measurables and numbers. That's how Williamson goes over BMW, despite Mike being a far better fundamental wideout...but a tenth of a second slower on the .40 time.
Jacksonville, say hello to Mike Mamula for me.
Stupid. How do you leave a polished receiver like Clayton on the board for some guy who's going to get lit up.
How about this then? One of the knocks on Jones is his somewhat lazy attitude and lack of hustle. Add that to him learning an (almost) new position and that leaves you with a great athlete that might or might not do anything in the NFL. He has a huge upside, but he's going to have to dedicate himself to learning and improving as a WR, something he hasn't shown as one of his strengths in the past.Not the point i was making. Capella says we can't tell anything from the game film teams have on Jones, and that he is being drafted on only measurables. He hasnt seen these films, or what they are basing his selection on.That's as naive as saying that every draft pick is good because they were drafted by pro scouts. It was only one team that took him, not every team that scouted him.I'm sure you know more about Matt Jones than the guys who scouted him and drafted him.Plenty?Last I checked, he was throwing the ball most of the time in college, and one exhibition game tells you ####.Coaches have plenty of tape of Jones playing WR in college and at the Senior Bowl.
Absolutely a horrible selection. Jacksonville fans should be swan-diving off Alltel today.
These guys get too tied up in measurables and numbers. That's how Williamson goes over BMW, despite Mike being a far better fundamental wideout...but a tenth of a second slower on the .40 time.
Jacksonville, say hello to Mike Mamula for me.
I hear you. I'm just not of the opinion that the Falcons are quite in that category. There are still weaknesses on D that need to be addressed. Well, what do I know - a WR? 2nd straight year to draft a WR in late 1st round. Not thrilled with the pick, but I'm also not a fan of Peerless Price either.Some teams, especially playoff teams with no huge holes to fill, have a crazy notion of drafting BPA.Yes, but this is not one of the need areas. To me, it'd be like Detroit's pick of Mike Williams which I didn't like.I imagine they could put 2 TE's on the field at once if they wanted too....
A fiery sensation in his penis every time he urinates?
Talk about getting burned.A fiery sensation in his penis every time he urinates?
The same game film that was used on A. Gates.WHAT FILM IS THERE? He was a college quarterback. He played a little in 2001 then took over as the starting QB in 2002. So we're talking about some 4-year old game film and a Senior Bowl.Not the point i was making. Capella says we can't tell anything from the game film teams have on Jones, and that he is being drafted on only measurables. He hasnt seen these films, or what they are basing his selection on.That's as naive as saying that every draft pick is good because they were drafted by pro scouts. It was only one team that took him, not every team that scouted him.I'm sure you know more about Matt Jones than the guys who scouted him and drafted him.Plenty?Last I checked, he was throwing the ball most of the time in college, and one exhibition game tells you ####.Coaches have plenty of tape of Jones playing WR in college and at the Senior Bowl.
Absolutely a horrible selection. Jacksonville fans should be swan-diving off Alltel today.
These guys get too tied up in measurables and numbers. That's how Williamson goes over BMW, despite Mike being a far better fundamental wideout...but a tenth of a second slower on the .40 time.
Jacksonville, say hello to Mike Mamula for me.
They said he was a state wrestling champion. They didn't draft him to catch balls, they drafted him to block for the rbs outside and Vick scrambles downfield. Not a bad pick to get a strong downfield blocker.
I think Chris Henry is the most talented of that group by far...but character concerns will scare teams away.
Ward had over 100 catches for 1600+ yards his last 2 years in college. His sophomore year is the only year where he played QB full time.Huge difference.
Yeah, because they could have used Marlin Jackson to score more than three points last year.
OK. I'm just saying it's not impossible to project a player to a different position. It's risky, for sure...but, it's not like it's never been done.Kordell Stewart probably would have made a great WR as well if he was more willing to switch positions.
Possible. The Jets have had terrible luck drafting TEs of late, and they're certainly in a win now mode. Do you think Jolley would have a bigger impact this year for the Jets than Miller?
The difference is that you have the opportunity to see 2 years worth of film (instead of a week at Mobile) of him playing the position with real bullets flying. You have a much better chance to evaluate his route running, separation, hands other other skills particular to the position. You can draft based on observed skills instead of simply "potential".
I was looking for the numbers on Hines.
