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***Official SEAHAWKS Playoff Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Sporting News Radio is interviewing Largent right now. Good stuff. :thumbup:EDIT: He's going to Detroit. He has never been to a Super Bowl before and will sit with my Mr. Allen. Sweet.

 
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Go 2 Guy: Hawks will win, shrink calculatesBy JIM MOORESEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER COLUMNISTForget the oddsmakers and the Terry Bradshaws and the Sean Salisburies who think the Steelers are going to win the Super Bowl, and embrace Dr. John F. Murray, who believes otherwise.Called a Football Shrink and a Football Freud, the West Palm Beach, Fla., sport psychologist developed a system in 2002 that has successfully projected the winner or the team that covered the point spread in the past three Super Bowls.If a trend is your friend, then Doctor John is your best buddy because his Mental Performance Index system says the Seahawks will win the Super Bowl.Like a lot of things, the MPI is far too complicated for the Go 2 Guy to fully understand, but it's based on Murray's assessment of each play, quantifying the degree to which a team performs to perfection.For instance, a 3-yard rushing play might get an average score in one situation or an above-average score in another, if it came on a third-and-3.Defensively, if a team gives up a 12-yard reception, it might get a below-average score, or average to above average if there was a decent rush and good coverage.Murray emphasizes the importance of each play, including those on special teams, then adds it up, yielding conclusions and predictions.On a scale of .000 to 1.000 (perfection), the Seahawks, in their playoff games, scored a .566 to the Steelers' .530, otherwise known as a formulaic butt-kicking in the making."Scoring at .600 is excellent," Murray said. "But to a sport psychologist, no team ever reaches perfection. Seattle's .566 is almost as good as it gets."Offensively the Seahawks hold a slight .551 to .535 edge over Pittsburgh, but a whopping .598 to .505 advantage on defense.The Steelers rated better than the Seahawks in just two areas -- offensive-pressure situations (.633 to .616) and special-teams play (.584 to .531).But after crunching all of the numbers, though the Seahawks are four-point underdogs, Murray said they will win by five to 10 points."I'm not a prognosticator, that's just a fun estimate from what I'm seeing," he said. "Pittsburgh is going to have to play almost flawless football to win this game."Murray's not some woo-woo mystic, having earned a bachelor's degree in psychology from Loyola of New Orleans and two masters degrees and a Ph.D. from the University of Florida Department of Clinical and Health Psychology. His doctoral dissertation examined psychological factors on the 1996 national-champion Florida Gators.Nonetheless, I remained skeptical until Murray kiboshed all doubts by disclosing a sure sign of credibility -- he spent a year in Pullman on a sport psychology internship and worked with the 1997 Pac-10 champion and Rose Bowling Cougs.Along with then-WSU sport psychologist Jim Bauman, Murray had 20 to 30 players at a time come to two adjoining rooms at the University Inn in Moscow the night before home games. With the lights turned down, they would lie side by side like sardines, listen to classical music and visualize great things happening the next day."The world is trying to catch up to Wazzu," Murray said, half-joking though I nodded in agreement. "That's the birthplace of this for me."I wanted to contribute something to help advance the understanding of how a team performed. What I'm doing is not B.S. It's totally serious."Murray never looks at the line on a game until he studies his data. "The past predicts the future better than anything else. It might be close, but Seattle is the better performing team. If they continue to perform the way they have, they're going to win the game."

 
SUPER BOWL TIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M GOING HOME BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO........................SEAHAWKS............................ Triple :pickle: :pickle: :pickle: in order!

 
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SUPER BOWL TIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'M GOING HOME BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO........................SEAHAWKS............................

Triple :pickle: :pickle: :pickle: in order!
Congrats...Did you have to sell your first born?

 
Robbie Tobeck once saved a kitten who had wandered onto a White Sands nuclear testing facility. He shielded it from the blast and received an unhealthy dose of gamma radiation.

I'm just saying, don't piss him off.
Polamalu has chunks of guys like him in his stool :football:
 
Robbie Tobeck once saved a kitten who had wandered onto a White Sands nuclear testing facility.  He shielded it from the blast and received an unhealthy dose of gamma radiation.

I'm just saying, don't piss him off.
Polamalu has chunks of guys like him in his stool :football:
You have no business being in this thread. Go off to the Chin Appreciation Thread or wherever you dorks hang out.
 
I heard a brief snippet of a rap song about the Seahawks on my friends radio. Band was something like the "Deez". Any locals know any links to where i can find the clips?

 
Okay, we're now in danger of turning from sophisticated fans into giggling fanboys.Please do not post any clips to lame musical tributes anywhere near me, thanks.

 
Okay, we're now in danger of turning from sophisticated fans into giggling fanboys.

Please do not post any clips to lame musical tributes anywhere near me, thanks.
Slurping lattes and throwing fish hardly counts as sophisticated. You don't wanna hear it, don't click on it. Me, I'm hoping someone can help me out since I don't get swamped with local hype down here in L.A., and I want to feel some flavor!!! I've been waiting as long as I can remember for this and if I want to get giggly, I'll giggle. Don't oppress me!
 
Okay, we're now in danger of turning from sophisticated fans into giggling fanboys.

Please do not post any clips to lame musical tributes anywhere near me, thanks.
Slurping lattes and throwing fish hardly counts as sophisticated. You don't wanna hear it, don't click on it. Me, I'm hoping someone can help me out since I don't get swamped with local hype down here in L.A., and I want to feel some flavor!!! I've been waiting as long as I can remember for this and if I want to get giggly, I'll giggle. Don't oppress me!
Oh, I'll oppress you all right. Do you see me oppressing you?
 
SUPER BOWL TIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

I'M GOING HOME BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

GO........................SEAHAWKS............................ 

Triple :pickle:   :pickle:   :pickle: in order!
I will get my hands on my vouchers either tonight or tommorow morning. :excited:
Let me know and we'll meet for a pregame beer. Also PM me if you have questions about the city or if I can point you in the right direction. They don't call me Doctor Detroit for nothing.
 
I won't be posting a whole lot over the next week but I appreciate the info in the thread. I have to judge a media contest next week and Friday I leave for Detroit and Super Bowl XL :pickle: (Section 122). I have a few things I wanted to get off my chest before I forget, or fail to pen due to time constraints.

1. The Pittsburgh Steelers are a very good team and deserve the respect they are getting. I think that if they played someone like the Skins or the Eagles I'd almost certainly root for the Steelers because they overcame.

However that said they are no where near as good as their fans think they are and there are cinches in the armor. The national media loves Big Ben but he gets more play on these boards than in the media or in the NFL for sure. I think Ben is an above average QB and I think most of the pressure of the game goes to him. I would take Ben over Hasselbeck because he's six or seven years younger but for this game I'd take Matt. Talk about no play. Ben will be the MVP if the Steelers win because he will take the brunt of the load. If he comes anywhere near the hype I've read on this forum, he deserves ever accolade he gets.

2. If the SEATTLE SEAHAWKS are crowned Champions :fro: they will have not won the game Cowher, Ben, the flat tire on the bus, and the defense of the Steelers will have lost the game. That is what we will hear from the media, and from non believers who still will give the Seahawks no credit.

Eric Allen (ESPN) spoke before the NFC Championship game of how much this Seahawks team reminds him of the 2001 New England Patriots who were counted out vs the Raiders, vs the Steelers, then vs the Rams. They had no chance to win, the Rams would roll easily. The Pats won with a methodical offense, a steady defense who lacked a superstar (although many have been given credit since), and with an X and Os coach who found a weakness in a seemingly impenetrable Rams team. The Pats reside in Boston which helped their climb to respectablity but I don't think the Pats got their true respect until they won their second Super Bowl.

That's ok, if the Seahawks hoist the Lombardi trophy the fans, the team, the real football will know they did it because they were the best team in the NFL. This team is the Pats vs the Raiders, the Pistons vs the Lakers, and the Diamondbacks vs the Yankees. :ph34r:

3. Shaun Alexander will more than likely return next year and if he doesn't Jamal Lewis, Edge, or someone will fill the void. I still think Alexander in this system is just about as good as you are going to get and his low key approach seems to fit well in Seattle. I actually think there is a better chance he leaves if the team wins.

4. Seahawks WILL WIN if they do not turn the ball over in the game or if they score a defensive TD. :football:

5. The most important possession of the game is the one right after the first TD of the game is scored.

6. Tempo is critical. If the Steelers want to play Seattle's tempo I think it's a great advantage to Seattle. No huddle and quick abrupt execution on offense is critical. The Steelers D cannot be allowed to control the tempo for one minute.

7. Willie Parker cannot be allowed in space and if he gets free the pursuit must be swift. Peter Warrick, JJ, or Engram need to score at least one TD between them. Marcus Trufant needs to show everyone else what Seahawk fans already know about him.

8. Seahawks must confuse Roethlisberger and force him to make decisions on the fly. He is a very good young QB but he is in only his second year with the pressure and spotlight squarely on his shoulders. Confidence is critical and they must take it away from him early and put the Steelers on their heels which can be done.

9. It's great to be a Seahawks fan and I don't think anyone of us can truly appreciate the situation unless we actually enjoy it. I think I'll be doing more of that in this last week as I've thought, and thought some more about this game pretty much non-stop for the past six days. I ask fellow fans who will be here on this forum for the Super Bowl to bump at the beginning of the game and bump at the end win or lose. It's been a great season and although only a perfect season will come with an XL win, it's been a pretty good ride. :thumbup:

GO.....................SEAHAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO.....................SEAHAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO.....................SEAHAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
I saw this yesterday and it falls under "people have nothing better to do" category.

Posted on Sat, Jan. 28, 2006Seattle's 12th man irks A&MBy JEFF CAPLANStar-Telegram Staff WriterThe Seattle Seahawks credit their run to Super Bowl XL on the arm of their emergent quarterback, the legs of their MVP running back and the stripped-raw vocal cords of their fervent fans, the long-exalted 12th man.As a salute to the roaring crowds that used to blow the roof off the old Kingdome, the franchise retired the No. 12 back in 1984. But, it wasn't until billionaire Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen bought the team in the late 1990s and cozy Qwest Field opened in 2002 that the 12th man tradition again swept up Seattle's fandom.The playoffs -- with the No. 12 flag waving high atop Seattle's Space Needle and another one flapping in the south end of the stadium -- have finally exposed Seattle's 12th man tradition to the rest of the nation, and a stunned College Station -- the official Home of the 12th Man, legally speaking.Texas A&M officials are hot over what athletic director Bill Byrne termed Seattle's "brazen use of the 12th Man theme" in his Wednesday Internet column.A&M, whose own 12th Man tradition dates back to 1922, holds two trademark registrations on "12th Man." Secured in 1990 and 1996, the trademarks include entertainment services, "namely organizing and conducting intercollegiate sporting events," and products, such as caps, T-shirts, novelty buttons and jewelry.Byrne wrote that the Chicago Bears and Buffalo Bills had previously halted their own 12th man themes once the university made them aware of the trademark registrations. A&M has contacted the Seahawks twice."In the normal course of action, once someone becomes aware of it and they understand that you have a registered trademark, normally they cease," said Steve Moore, A&M's chief marketing officer. "In this case they have chosen not to, but we are still hopeful that they will, quite frankly."Lance Lopes, the Seahawks' vice president of corporate partnerships/legal affairs, said he would not comment on whether the team would meet A&M's request."I will say this," Lopes said. "Our fans have been the folks that have run with the 12th man. It has not been the organization itself. We raise a flag with a 12 on it, it doesn't say 12th man or anything like that. We retired the jersey No. 12 many, many years ago and we've always sort of kept it under that context."But, in terms of this whole 12th man derivative, if you will, that's occurred in the mass media and the public here locally. It has not been generated by the organization, per se."At a recent fan rally, Seahawks cheerleaders couldn't distribute No. 12 buttons fast enough. The team's pro shop is sold out of No. 12 replica game jerseys and No. 12 flags.The Web site, SeaHawkers.org, the official site of the team's booster club, offers downloadable computer desktop wallpaper that reads: "At Home We are the 12th Man" and "On the Road We are the 12th Man.""There's 12th man towels on eBay and all types of 12th man merchandise that we've seen," A&M's Moore said. "We really have no way of knowing whether the Seahawks are putting that out or not."The home page of the Seahawks' official Web site features a promotional advertisement with Ram Restaurant and Bar called "12th Man at the Ram." The winner lands 12 seats in front of the big screen at the popular sports bar to watch the Seahawks play the Pittsburgh Steelers in the Super Bowl on Feb. 5.Jeff Chandler, a marketing and promotions staff member for the Ram chain, said he was unaware of the 12th Man trademark, and said his company works directly with the Seahawks."This is a promotion done in conjunction with them," Chandler said. "They are the ones that approved our ad."A&M's 12th Man trademark has evolved into more than tradition and heritage. It is something of a franchise in itself, including The 12th Man Foundation, A&M's fundraising arm that funds 12th Man scholarships, 12th Man Magazine and 12th Man merchandise.The university's last resort is to take the Seahawks to court, a proposition that could be costly, and one Moore said A&M is not prepared to do just yet."What we hope," Moore said, "is that the normal course of action will work, and that they'll choose to recognize our ownership of the trademark."Geoff Mantooth, a Fort Worth-based registered patent and trademark attorney, said A&M might be able to win a court battle. He said A&M could seek damages for past infringement, stop future infringement and even ask for the Seahawks' profits on any 12th man merchandise."They [the Seahawks] might think they can fight it because you have a professional sports franchise with deep pockets versus a public university," said Mantooth, who is a former Aggie, but has no role with the university or this matter. "Public universities in the last few years have gotten more aggressive in protecting their patent and trademark rights because they see them as sources of revenue."
 
I went to see the Lions/Ravens play this year at Ford Field and I don't think it even crossed my mind that I might go back for the Super Bowl (I did start making plans for a possible return in early December).

From what I'm hearing, although the crowd will have more Steelers fans than Seahawks fans, as much as 40 percent of the crowd will be neutral. Those fans tend to root for the underdog and are bent on momentum. Seattle is going to need that to win anyway so I can dig it.

Add to note: I am resigned to the fact that I may have to sit near some Steelers fans but hopefully not next to this one.

 
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9. It's great to be a Seahawks fan and I don't think anyone of us can truly appreciate the situation unless we actually enjoy it. I think I'll be doing more of that in this last week as I've thought, and thought some more about this game pretty much non-stop for the past six days. I ask fellow fans who will be here on this forum for the Super Bowl to bump at the beginning of the game and bump at the end win or lose. It's been a great season and although only a perfect season will come with an XL win, it's been a pretty good ride.
Great advice! Worrying about the outcome doesn't increase your odds of winning. By the numbers, every team averages a Super Bowl appearance every 16 years. So don't fret - enjoy the experience! I see the Seahawks as having an excellent chance to be back again real soon, but you never know what can happen. So while I can't root for your team, I can and will root for you to all have a great time!
 
I went to see the Lions/Ravens play this year at Ford Field and I don't think it even crossed my mind that I might go back for the Super Bowl (I did start making plans for a possible return in early December).

From what I'm hearing, although the crowd will have more Steelers fans than Seahawks fans, as much as 40 percent of the crowd will be neutral. Those fans tend to root for the underdog and are bent on momentum. Seattle is going to need that to win anyway so I can dig it.

Add to note: I am resigned to the fact that I may have to sit near some Steelers fans but hopefully not next to this one.
The Steelers are the true underdogs, just ask them. :football:
 
Holy Crap Hasselbeck, Alexander, Hutch, Darby in a car accident? :eek: They are ok but still. I don't think those guys should be all together at the same time like **** and G.W.

 
Go 2 Guy: Hawks will win, shrink calculates

By JIM MOORE

SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER COLUMNIST

Forget the oddsmakers and the Terry Bradshaws and the Sean Salisburies who think the Steelers are going to win the Super Bowl, and embrace Dr. John F. Murray, who believes otherwise.

Called a Football Shrink and a Football Freud, the West Palm Beach, Fla., sport psychologist developed a system in 2002 that has successfully projected the winner or the team that covered the point spread in the past three Super Bowls.

If a trend is your friend, then Doctor John is your best buddy because his Mental Performance Index system says the Seahawks will win the Super Bowl.

Like a lot of things, the MPI is far too complicated for the Go 2 Guy to fully understand, but it's based on Murray's assessment of each play, quantifying the degree to which a team performs to perfection.

For instance, a 3-yard rushing play might get an average score in one situation or an above-average score in another, if it came on a third-and-3.

Defensively, if a team gives up a 12-yard reception, it might get a below-average score, or average to above average if there was a decent rush and good coverage.

Murray emphasizes the importance of each play, including those on special teams, then adds it up, yielding conclusions and predictions.

On a scale of .000 to 1.000 (perfection), the Seahawks, in their playoff games, scored a .566 to the Steelers' .530, otherwise known as a formulaic butt-kicking in the making.

"Scoring at .600 is excellent," Murray said. "But to a sport psychologist, no team ever reaches perfection. Seattle's .566 is almost as good as it gets."

Offensively the Seahawks hold a slight .551 to .535 edge over Pittsburgh, but a whopping .598 to .505 advantage on defense.

The Steelers rated better than the Seahawks in just two areas -- offensive-pressure situations (.633 to .616) and special-teams play (.584 to .531).

But after crunching all of the numbers, though the Seahawks are four-point underdogs, Murray said they will win by five to 10 points.

"I'm not a prognosticator, that's just a fun estimate from what I'm seeing," he said. "Pittsburgh is going to have to play almost flawless football to win this game."

Murray's not some woo-woo mystic, having earned a bachelor's degree in psychology from Loyola of New Orleans and two masters degrees and a Ph.D. from the University of Florida Department of Clinical and Health Psychology. His doctoral dissertation examined psychological factors on the 1996 national-champion Florida Gators.

Nonetheless, I remained skeptical until Murray kiboshed all doubts by disclosing a sure sign of credibility -- he spent a year in Pullman on a sport psychology internship and worked with the 1997 Pac-10 champion and Rose Bowling Cougs.

Along with then-WSU sport psychologist Jim Bauman, Murray had 20 to 30 players at a time come to two adjoining rooms at the University Inn in Moscow the night before home games. With the lights turned down, they would lie side by side like sardines, listen to classical music and visualize great things happening the next day.

"The world is trying to catch up to Wazzu," Murray said, half-joking though I nodded in agreement. "That's the birthplace of this for me.

"I wanted to contribute something to help advance the understanding of how a team performed. What I'm doing is not B.S. It's totally serious."

Murray never looks at the line on a game until he studies his data.

"The past predicts the future better than anything else. It might be close, but Seattle is the better performing team. If they continue to perform the way they have, they're going to win the game."
I guess he backtested this on previous winners and the results weren't so hot, otherwise it probably would have been mentioned that the backtesting was successful. But then again, you never know.
 
Seattle Questions

The View From Detroit: Motown gets a fix on Seattle

By M.L. LYKE

SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

DETROIT -- Detroiters have blogs and chat rooms dissecting everything about them in the media (for instance, DetroitYES! at detroityes.com calls itself the "Home of the fabulous ruins of Detroit" ). So it's only fair game to find out everything that Detroiters know about Seattle.

Question: What is Seattle?

Answer: -- ?

We hopped on the city's People Mover, an elevated train that does a crooked little 15-minute hop through the downtown core, with 13 stops. We got off at each, asking the first people we met what they knew about Seattle.

Most didn't know Starbucks originated in Seattle. But we hit double gold at Bricktown.

Cadillac Center Station

Edward Washington, a delivery man studying up at the Skillman Branch Library: "Seattle ... Seattle ... Washington? Is it over by the Mexican border?"

Grand Circus Park Station

Jim Saad, a developer/renovator: " 'Sleepless in Seattle' and the Seahawks. Basically it's somewhere northwest of California. Off the ocean, right?"

Michigan Station

Sandy Jacques, finishing work at the Detroit federal building: "It rains a lot, and they have a big tower downtown, and it's supposed to be very beautiful."

Renaissance Center Station

Gil Duhn, a customs manager for General Motors: "I know it's a port. I know it's very wet. I've never been."

Greektown Station

Tony Ziegler, a waiter at The Hellas Café: "I know they've got a lot of rain. I assume it's a West Coast California lifestyle with the beautiful beaches, only north."

Bricktown Station

Kerri Weatherholt, a bartender: "It seems like Seattle people are very liberal. In Pittsburgh, people are dog-eating, beer-chugging. Seattle seems more reserved, more classy, more educated.

And it's the home of grunge music -- my favorite kind."

Bricktown Station

Joie Coelho, owner of Spirit in the Park boutique: "When I heard Seattle was coming, I was like, 'Yeah! We're going to have sophisticated people in this city!'

"I love Seattle. I've spent time there. When people say it has the highest suicide rate because of the rain, I tell them it's just a drizzle, a mist.

"I love the Asian influence -- the arts, the shops, the culture. Every neighborhood I was in, you could walk to something, a bead store, a restaurant, a theater.

"Aesthetically, Detroit is just not beautiful like Seattle is. It's so contemporary. So cosmopolitan."

MOVERS: It costs 50 cents to do the 15-minute round on the People Movers. The wait is no more than three minutes (compared with a grueling 10- to 20-minute wait for a cab in this town). And the stations have some cool art, including 14 panicked, elongated shadow figures dashing for the train at Michigan Station; vintage automobiles in Venetian glass at the Cobo Center; and hexagonal tiles that were hand-silk-screened in Italy at the Renaissance Center.

BUSINESS: Detroit businesses are supersizing for the big game. Mark Woodford at Atlas Global Bistro will deliver 1,450 pounds of pasta, 150 gallons of marinara sauce, 75 gallons of pesto mushroom crème sauce and 50 gallons of walnut sage brown butter for Super Bowl tailgate parties.

The Beaubien Street Bar, which usually orders 15-20 cases of beer a week, has ordered 300 for bowl week. This in a town where pitchers of beer accompany lunchtime burger baskets.

But who's (burp) counting?

STREET: No cardboard signs by the side of this onramp: Sam Willis will work for food. Literally. The homeless savant was busy sweeping the street last week, wearing heavy rubber gloves and carrying a dustpan. "I eat everyday, so that's all right," said Willis, giving us a rubber thumbs up. "It ain't how much you get in this world, it's what you do with what you get."

The homeless and the cops have an understanding in Detroit. When a Greektown waiter called a cop to tell them a homeless man had just dropped his trousers in front of the store, sans underwear, the cop said, "Right. He must be getting cold if he does something stupid like that." They picked him up, and the gentleman spent the night in a warm, dry jail cell.
I like the quote about Pittsburgh anyway. First thing you have to understand is that "The people mover" although something beneficial to the Super Bowl crowds, is essentially a parking to event platform. This really isn't public transportation in the true sense and there are a lot of "characters" that frequent its' terminals. The best is the guy at Joe Louis Arena who is in a wheel chair and asks for money or cigarettes as he flys up and down the ramps leading to the People Mover. I should know his name by now but the guy is relentless and although he gets irritated rather easily, he is understood by Detroiters. I wish they would have interviewed him. :rant:

 
Upstart Hawks have 'got it' won

By ART THIEL

P-I COLUMNIST

DETROIT -- Someone who has had some non-interview contact with Seahawks players around town this week spoke slowly, to emphasize his words.

"The Seahawks ... are ... pissed."

He wasn't a Seahawks employee, and didn't want his well-known name used. He was offering more evidence to the inescapable feeling that the Seahawks resent the hell out of being street urchins at the kitchen door of the NFL establishment, begging for scraps.

Yes, the respect theme is overused. And the Seahawks have said little publicly about their dismay.

This time, it's real, albeit real quiet. From signs great and small, the Seahawks are honing their pique as sharply as their talents. The national media doesn't get it. Fans don't get it. Oddsmakers don't get it.

They'll get it Sunday, when the Seahawks win Super Bowl XL 27-24.

Sure, that reads like a hometown pick. But anyone who has been a regular reader here knows that local-team sentiment appears as often as eloquence in a Bush news conference.

The forecast doesn't preclude the notion that a special-teams screw-up, or a bad call, or another Immaculate Reception from Pittsburgh won't change things. Nor should it be construed as a dismissal of the Steelers, a premier outfit from ownership through coaching to players. The fan base's intensity and loyalty ranks with any in the sports world.

The Steelers deserve every salute.

They just don't happen to be the better team. The Seahawks have the NFL's best record over the past three regular seasons for more reasons than a loud home crowd.

The single most significant element Sunday is the Seahawks' offensive line. Not Jerome Bettis' return to his hometown. Not Steelers linebacker Joey Porter's insipid yammering. Not Pittsburgh's 3-4 defense. Not four Super Bowls won in the 1970s. Not 19 Hall of Famers compared to Steve Largent. Not because Bill Cowher is the epitome of an NFL coach.

Forget history, tradition and sentiment. On Ford Field Sunday, the Seahawks line will give running back Shaun Alexander room and quarterback Matt Hasselbeck time.

Not a lot of either. But enough of both.

The ultimate test of a line is offense in the red zone, especially around the goal line, where the field is short and options fewer. The fact the Seahawks led the NFL in close-in scoring is based not on schemes, or tendencies averted.

It is based on the fact Walter Jones, Steve Hutchinson, Robbie Tobeck, Chris Gray and Sean Locklear, along with fullback Mack Strong, are stronger, smarter and -- attention Steelers! -- tougher than the best defense.

In the pelting rainstorm of interviews this week, there was one shining shaft of light from Hasselbeck that explained what most football pundits have been missing.

"If the defense knows it's coming, so what -- let's do it better," he said. "Look at what we do on the goal line. Shaun is the best goal-line back in football. He scores every time we're down there. We don't change. People know it's coming.

"I'm under center and guys that used to play for us (such as Carolina cornerback Ken Lucas) are yelling, 'Here it comes! Right here! We got it!'

"But they don't got it."

Intentionally bad grammar notwithstanding, Hasselbeck is right. They don't "got it." About many aspects of the Seahawks.

Part of why they don't "got it" is because the Seahawks' best asset is their most immeasurable, by standard football metrics. It was explained in another simple burst of light, this from Strong, whom you may know by now is neither braggart nor fool after 13 NFL seasons.

"We take pride," he said, "in being the smartest team in the league."

That was said of another team a few years ago, the one Warren Moon thinks reminds him, in both talent and temperament, of these Seahawks.

"They are a lot like the Dallas teams of the 1990s," said the former Seahawks and Huskies quarterback, who is a candidate for the Hall of Fame in today's voting. The Cowboys won three Super Bowls, including the 1996 game over Pittsburgh, 27-17, behind quarterback Troy Aikman, running back Emmitt Smith and linemen Nate Newton, Erik Williams, Larry Allen and Mark Tuinei, plus a superb defense.

Of course Moon, the club's radio analyst, is biased. So is much of the NFL culture when it comes to considering the chances of a team with modest history and minimal previous success.

That part of it apparently has been manipulated with great care by coach Mike Holmgren, who months ago began to describe privately how dismissed the Seahawks would be if they reached the pinnacle.

Alexander suggested to a gaggle of reporters that all has gone as scripted.

"I think you guys have been great," he said, smiling and laughing. "Mike had a plan for this whole Super Bowl. Actually, he started the plan about Week 8. You guys are doing exactly what we want you all to do.

"You guys are really making Mike look like a genius."

Unplanned little things stoked the fire. Hasselbeck was scheduled to be a guest on ABC's "Jimmy Kimmel Live" late-night show that has been in Detroit this week. But his appearance was reduced to cue-card boy and a seat in the band, playing a tambourine. He never made the couch.

Then there was the Pistons-Lakers game this week, attended by several Seahawks. Up on the big screen, the crowd was introduced to Cowher, sitting next to Pistons owner Bill Davidson, as well as other Steelers. Mad cheers for the Pittsburghers, no mention of the Seahawks.

At a charity bowling tournament put on by Bettis, Detroit Mayor Kwame Fitzpatrick talked about the Steelers back bringing the Lombardi Trophy home for a visit.

Then there was tight end Jerramy Stevens, a player oft-maligned for his dubious past in Seattle, standing up to a media onslaught Wednesday by a horde desperate to provoke him into making as big a dip of himself as his new rival, Porter.

For nearly an hour, no matter how repetitive or foolish the question, Stevens calmly answered without rancor, contempt or retaliation, for which he drew much deserved praise. Again, another deft execution of script.

Holmgren added a finishing touch this week. The Super Bowl is supposed to be a neutral field. But because of Detroit's proximity to and affinity for Pittsburgh, Holmgren had the offense work on silent counts, the counter to hostile-crowd noise.

The Seahawks know exactly what they are up against. They are pissed ... and delighted.

The rest of the NFL world that don't "got it" starts the learning curve Sunday.

 
If you look at all the big plays the D has allowed you find the name "Herndon" involved quite often. He won't be there today and the rookie Kelly Jennings gets to show everyone that he belongs and was a great first round pick. Boulware and Hamlin are going to have to play big in the secondary and help Babineaux whenever possible. The linebackers are going to have to make the initial tackles in this game to avoid the big play and Peterson should be used as a strong safety in nickel situations IMO. I think losing Herndon is meh but losing Trufant is huge.

The offensive line might be in better shape than we think but we'll have to wait until gametime to see who is in. It would be great if DJAX played even if it was in a limited role. I think he goes.

Stevens gets a touch and a fresh Alexander running downhill is very possible. The offense is going to have to really put up some points in this game because the defense is going to be back-peddling all damn day. Pressure on the Qb is crucial and the 12th man will be huge vs an inexperienced QB.

 
Doctor Detroit glad to have you back. I was going to post a FBG Amber alert in the FFA this weekend. The only other Seahawk fan on the board is usually pretty quiet before big games(NTTAWWT)

Dallas has their hands full with the 12th man. Seattle IS the loudest stadium in the NFL, and with a whole day of prep :banned: that place is going to be total chaos. Romo has zero playoff experiance, and teams now know how to game plan to stop him. We are now seeing why he was a backup for so many years. Parcells heart is not in this game as he is most likely leaving. Owens will melt down if the Cowboy's fall behind early.

Seattle's offense needs to gell quick and put up points. I see a lot of Hasselbeck to Stevens today, and them looking to spread out the defense. The LB"s will be blitzing today, secondary needs to keep things in front of them, and Boulware and Hamlin need to knock the crap out of Owens to get in his head.

Stars on offense will be Hasselbeck and Stevens. Defense Peterson/Tutupu, and I feel redemption coming for Boulware.

I am one of the few that liked the Jennings pick, and that will pay dividends today.

GO HAWKS. :yes:

 
We're doomed. Sorry, it's in my nature.

I think our best chance is to go back in time, fix the Hutchinson fiasco, and sign Ty Law for whatever he wants.

 
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. Romo has zero playoff experiance, and teams now know how to game plan to stop him. We are now seeing why he was a backup for so many years.
I question whether you have seen many or any Dallas games. Whereas Romo does need to continue to grow, to say you see why he was a backup is a ridiculous statement. :clap: It hasn't been his play that has made them struggle, it is the defense.
 
. Romo has zero playoff experiance, and teams now know how to game plan to stop him. We are now seeing why he was a backup for so many years.
I question whether you have seen many or any Dallas games. Whereas Romo does need to continue to grow, to say you see why he was a backup is a ridiculous statement. :clap: It hasn't been his play that has made them struggle, it is the defense.
In Romo's last 5 games he has had 8 interceptions, to 6 touchdowns. Please explain how that relates to the Dallas defense?
 
. Romo has zero playoff experiance, and teams now know how to game plan to stop him. We are now seeing why he was a backup for so many years.
I question whether you have seen many or any Dallas games. Whereas Romo does need to continue to grow, to say you see why he was a backup is a ridiculous statement. :rolleyes: It hasn't been his play that has made them struggle, it is the defense.
In Romo's last 5 games he has had 8 interceptions, to 6 touchdowns. Please explain how that relates to the Dallas defense?
Don't forget his 3-4 fumbles last game alone... Romo was new, he had the hot hand. Coach's got film and have stopped him since, I don't see the arguement here. :hangover: Furthermore, him going to the Pro Bowl is a ####### joke.
 
I have a good feeling about a long playoff run. Because of injuries Alexander is relatively fresh and all of the NFC teams, including us, seem to be struggling to play quality football.

GO HAWKS!

 
Doctor Detroit glad to have you back. I was going to post a FBG Amber alert in the FFA this weekend. The only other Seahawk fan on the board is usually pretty quiet before big games(NTTAWWT)

Dallas has their hands full with the 12th man. Seattle IS the loudest stadium in the NFL, and with a whole day of prep :banned: that place is going to be total chaos. Romo has zero playoff experiance, and teams now know how to game plan to stop him. We are now seeing why he was a backup for so many years. Parcells heart is not in this game as he is most likely leaving. Owens will melt down if the Cowboy's fall behind early.

Seattle's offense needs to gell quick and put up points. I see a lot of Hasselbeck to Stevens today, and them looking to spread out the defense. The LB"s will be blitzing today, secondary needs to keep things in front of them, and Boulware and Hamlin need to knock the crap out of Owens to get in his head.

Stars on offense will be Hasselbeck and Stevens. Defense Peterson/Tutupu, and I feel redemption coming for Boulware.

I am one of the few that liked the Jennings pick, and that will pay dividends today.

GO HAWKS. :rolleyes:
Well he has to step up today so the chance will be there to redeem himself. I agree with almost everything you said here and I too was very pleased with the Jennings pick. I'll be even more happy if he can shut down Terry Glenn today and help the Hawks win another playoff game versus the dreaded Cowboys. I want to see Hamlin get a shot at Owens over the middle at least once today. The offense needs to come to play today. Use the four WR sets and run Alexander on draws and traps. Holmgren also needs to put a gameplan in play that isn't predictable and use playaction once Alexander gets a few nice runs in. Since everyone thinks this will be a shootout maybe it won't be. Who knows. I do like the Josh Brown vs Martin Gramatica match-up which could be the difference. Getting fired up for this one. :hangover:

 
. Romo has zero playoff experiance, and teams now know how to game plan to stop him. We are now seeing why he was a backup for so many years.
I question whether you have seen many or any Dallas games. Whereas Romo does need to continue to grow, to say you see why he was a backup is a ridiculous statement. :rolleyes: It hasn't been his play that has made them struggle, it is the defense.
In Romo's last 5 games he has had 8 interceptions, to 6 touchdowns. Please explain how that relates to the Dallas defense?
Furthermore, him going to the Pro Bowl is a ####### joke.
When the announcement was made I said it was a joke in this forum and he has been terrible since that day. He got to the probowl because he plays for the Dallas Cowboys and he won a few games in a row. Everyone was talking about Dallas to the Super Bowl this, Dallas is back that because of Romo forgetting that in the NFL teams make something called "adjustments." Since that time Romo has not been effective and with the defense playing as bad as they've played, he is having to win the game. I think that is asking a lot from a guy who is essentially a 2nd year player. I hope he is terrible again today.
 
WR D.J. Hackett is on the field running routes. We have not seen WR Darrell Jackson. RG Chris Gray is also out on the field moving around. We do not have a list of inactive players yet, but I just wanted to pass along that information.
Seahawks InsiderETA: DJAX and Hackett will both play.
 
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Hawks: Jackson will start at WR

Permalink Posted by Mike Sando @ 04:08:52 pm

The Seahawks' list of inactive players includes a lineup change at the bottom: Darrell Jackson will start for D.J. Hackett. Other things to glean from the inactive list: Chris Gray is active and expected to start at right guard. Rob Sims starts at left guard, as expected. Jackson has apparently had the pain shot he'll need to start and play despite a turf-toe injury. That is a brutal shot to receive and guys hate it, but if he is active and starting, the assumption is that he had the shot.

 
http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/

Hawks: Jackson will start at WR

Permalink Posted by Mike Sando @ 04:08:52 pm

The Seahawks' list of inactive players includes a lineup change at the bottom: Darrell Jackson will start for D.J. Hackett. Other things to glean from the inactive list: Chris Gray is active and expected to start at right guard. Rob Sims starts at left guard, as expected. Jackson has apparently had the pain shot he'll need to start and play despite a turf-toe injury. That is a brutal shot to receive and guys hate it, but if he is active and starting, the assumption is that he had the shot.
I knew D Jax would go. :thumbdown: I think that shot is given on the bottom of the foot near the injured area. That really has to hurt.
 
Who's starting at center? And if Tobeck is not starting will he be available as a backup? And is Womack still out?

I gotta say I am very relieved that not only is Hackett playing but a huge bonus for DJax to be in. Glenn and Owens are very experienced WRs and may have the scrubs and backups in the backfield twisting around. If we can't get pressure on Romo (one of the main problems with putting Peterson in coverage is removing his pass rush) then we'll need our veteran WRs to step up and attack that D.

Here's to avenging the Sharpie incident, Hamlin would be nice but I would really like to see Boulware get the big hit. Despite his troubles, he saved a ton of games for us his rookie year and would like to see some good things from him because he can be a playmaker.

And BTW, there's actually four of us on the boards. I don't know why my avatar disappeared but it's the NFC Champ ring. Someday I'll figure it out.

So here's to the Hawks, step one in defending the crown is getting to this day. Now let's do a gut check, fight through the injuries, trust the backups, and stomp the disgusting Cowgirlz. The crowd will be loud and proud and here down the coast in L.A. the blue and green is flying in every room of the house.



Go Hawks baby!!!

 
Who's starting at center? And if Tobeck is not starting will he be available as a backup? And is Womack still out?

I gotta say I am very relieved that not only is Hackett playing but a huge bonus for DJax to be in. Glenn and Owens are very experienced WRs and may have the scrubs and backups in the backfield twisting around. If we can't get pressure on Romo (one of the main problems with putting Peterson in coverage is removing his pass rush) then we'll need our veteran WRs to step up and attack that D.

Here's to avenging the Sharpie incident, Hamlin would be nice but I would really like to see Boulware get the big hit. Despite his troubles, he saved a ton of games for us his rookie year and would like to see some good things from him because he can be a playmaker.

And BTW, there's actually four of us on the boards. I don't know why my avatar disappeared but it's the NFC Champ ring. Someday I'll figure it out.

So here's to the Hawks, step one in defending the crown is getting to this day. Now let's do a gut check, fight through the injuries, trust the backups, and stomp the disgusting Cowgirlz. The crowd will be loud and proud and here down the coast in L.A. the blue and green is flying in every room of the house.



Go Hawks baby!!!
I apologize to you and Friday Frenzy, that = 5 that have been here awhile.
 
Who's starting at center? And if Tobeck is not starting will he be available as a backup? And is Womack still out?

I gotta say I am very relieved that not only is Hackett playing but a huge bonus for DJax to be in. Glenn and Owens are very experienced WRs and may have the scrubs and backups in the backfield twisting around. If we can't get pressure on Romo (one of the main problems with putting Peterson in coverage is removing his pass rush) then we'll need our veteran WRs to step up and attack that D.

Here's to avenging the Sharpie incident, Hamlin would be nice but I would really like to see Boulware get the big hit. Despite his troubles, he saved a ton of games for us his rookie year and would like to see some good things from him because he can be a playmaker.

And BTW, there's actually four of us on the boards. I don't know why my avatar disappeared but it's the NFC Champ ring. Someday I'll figure it out.

So here's to the Hawks, step one in defending the crown is getting to this day. Now let's do a gut check, fight through the injuries, trust the backups, and stomp the disgusting Cowgirlz. The crowd will be loud and proud and here down the coast in L.A. the blue and green is flying in every room of the house.



Go Hawks baby!!!
:banned: Spencer should be starting at C and Womack is likely the RT.

 
Who's starting at center? And if Tobeck is not starting will he be available as a backup? And is Womack still out?

I gotta say I am very relieved that not only is Hackett playing but a huge bonus for DJax to be in. Glenn and Owens are very experienced WRs and may have the scrubs and backups in the backfield twisting around. If we can't get pressure on Romo (one of the main problems with putting Peterson in coverage is removing his pass rush) then we'll need our veteran WRs to step up and attack that D.

Here's to avenging the Sharpie incident, Hamlin would be nice but I would really like to see Boulware get the big hit. Despite his troubles, he saved a ton of games for us his rookie year and would like to see some good things from him because he can be a playmaker.

And BTW, there's actually four of us on the boards. I don't know why my avatar disappeared but it's the NFC Champ ring. Someday I'll figure it out.

So here's to the Hawks, step one in defending the crown is getting to this day. Now let's do a gut check, fight through the injuries, trust the backups, and stomp the disgusting Cowgirlz. The crowd will be loud and proud and here down the coast in L.A. the blue and green is flying in every room of the house.



Go Hawks baby!!!
:yes: Spencer should be starting at C and Womack is likely the RT.
I was really quiet at work all week, nervous about who we were really gonna suit up for the game. Lots of good names cropping up as playing tonight. Wait, Pork Chop at RT? I thought Locklear was back.Andrea Kremer, who is useless, just said we'd have both guards, Womack and Gray.

 
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Who's starting at center? And if Tobeck is not starting will he be available as a backup? And is Womack still out?

I gotta say I am very relieved that not only is Hackett playing but a huge bonus for DJax to be in. Glenn and Owens are very experienced WRs and may have the scrubs and backups in the backfield twisting around. If we can't get pressure on Romo (one of the main problems with putting Peterson in coverage is removing his pass rush) then we'll need our veteran WRs to step up and attack that D.

Here's to avenging the Sharpie incident, Hamlin would be nice but I would really like to see Boulware get the big hit. Despite his troubles, he saved a ton of games for us his rookie year and would like to see some good things from him because he can be a playmaker.

And BTW, there's actually four of us on the boards. I don't know why my avatar disappeared but it's the NFC Champ ring. Someday I'll figure it out.

So here's to the Hawks, step one in defending the crown is getting to this day. Now let's do a gut check, fight through the injuries, trust the backups, and stomp the disgusting Cowgirlz. The crowd will be loud and proud and here down the coast in L.A. the blue and green is flying in every room of the house.



Go Hawks baby!!!
:yes: Spencer should be starting at C and Womack is likely the RT.
I was really quiet at work all week, nervous about who we were really gonna suit up for the game. Lots of good names cropping up as playing tonight. Wait, Pork Chop at RT? I thought Locklear was back.Andrea Kremer, who is useless, just said we'd have both guards, Womack and Gray.
That's correct. Nice call. Looks like Ashworth is out which is nice.ETA: SIMS the rook is starting! Forgot about that. Womack is on the pine also.

 
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Who's starting at center? And if Tobeck is not starting will he be available as a backup? And is Womack still out?

I gotta say I am very relieved that not only is Hackett playing but a huge bonus for DJax to be in. Glenn and Owens are very experienced WRs and may have the scrubs and backups in the backfield twisting around. If we can't get pressure on Romo (one of the main problems with putting Peterson in coverage is removing his pass rush) then we'll need our veteran WRs to step up and attack that D.

Here's to avenging the Sharpie incident, Hamlin would be nice but I would really like to see Boulware get the big hit. Despite his troubles, he saved a ton of games for us his rookie year and would like to see some good things from him because he can be a playmaker.

And BTW, there's actually four of us on the boards. I don't know why my avatar disappeared but it's the NFC Champ ring. Someday I'll figure it out.

So here's to the Hawks, step one in defending the crown is getting to this day. Now let's do a gut check, fight through the injuries, trust the backups, and stomp the disgusting Cowgirlz. The crowd will be loud and proud and here down the coast in L.A. the blue and green is flying in every room of the house.



Go Hawks baby!!!
:banned: Spencer should be starting at C and Womack is likely the RT.
I was really quiet at work all week, nervous about who we were really gonna suit up for the game. Lots of good names cropping up as playing tonight. Wait, Pork Chop at RT? I thought Locklear was back.Andrea Kremer, who is useless, just said we'd have both guards, Womack and Gray.
That's correct. Nice call. Looks like Ashworth is out which is nice.ETA: SIMS the rook is starting! Forgot about that. Womack is on the pine also.
I liked Ash as the 2nd TE last week tho
 

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