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Cowboys will finish 6-10 this year (1 Viewer)
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Joe T
Footballguy
less cancerFeel the hate............I am blown away by this stupidity. The Cowboys won 9 games last season with less.The 6 wins they get will all be due to the defense.
The offense is going to be in dissarray. My guess is T.O. blows up before game 5 and doesn't finish the year. The offensive line is in shambles. And the rest of the offense is mediocre at best.
Please don't overrate the cowboys this year.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
less cancerFeel the hate............I am blown away by this stupidity. The Cowboys won 9 games last season with less.The 6 wins they get will all be due to the defense.
The offense is going to be in dissarray. My guess is T.O. blows up before game 5 and doesn't finish the year. The offensive line is in shambles. And the rest of the offense is mediocre at best.
Please don't overrate the cowboys this year.
Jealousy is a cancer......
Joe T
Footballguy
What jealousy?I'm a Cowboy fan.less cancerFeel the hate............I am blown away by this stupidity. The Cowboys won 9 games last season with less.The 6 wins they get will all be due to the defense.
The offense is going to be in dissarray. My guess is T.O. blows up before game 5 and doesn't finish the year. The offensive line is in shambles. And the rest of the offense is mediocre at best.
Please don't overrate the cowboys this year.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
You're no fan. If you are on here saying your team will only win 6 games after overhauling several "need" positions. That is the difference between a real fan and the loser bandwagon guys that jumped on when we were good.What jealousy?I'm a Cowboy fan.less cancerFeel the hate............I am blown away by this stupidity. The Cowboys won 9 games last season with less.The 6 wins they get will all be due to the defense.
The offense is going to be in dissarray. My guess is T.O. blows up before game 5 and doesn't finish the year. The offensive line is in shambles. And the rest of the offense is mediocre at best.
Please don't overrate the cowboys this year.
cstu
Footballguy
No, you're just trying to stir up trouble.anytime someone has a contrarian opinion in the 'shark' pool, it is called fishing. :(
You "guess" TO blows up by game 5, without even considering that TO wants to prove everybody wrong this year.The OL is far from being in shambles. Last year there were a lot of injuries to the OL and most of those guys are coming back. You also aren't accounting for the draft, which is likely to add at least a couple OL to the team.
Your last line is ignorant. Bledsoe was the #6 QB with Glenn, Keyshawn and weak OL and the Cowboys as a team with 13th in yards passing and rushing. This year he has Glenn, TO, an improved OL and another year in the offense.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I don't think Dallas is the favorite to win the NFC East. I would think the Giants would be favored AS OF TODAY. However, there's still alot of off-season to go. The NFC East is a tough division. I would think the Eagles won't go 0-6 in the division again, and the Cowboys were 1-3 vs. the Redskins and Giants. If Dallas goes 2-4 in the division, the best they can hope for is 10-6 and that's not good enough to win the NFC East or get a bye in the first round. Bledsoe is well past his prime and QB is the most important position on the field. All the great recievers in the world aren't going to help him avoid a rush and make better decisions. Plus when was the last time a team with Drew Bledsoe at the helm won 10 games?
Last I checked the Eagles are still the same sorry team as they were last season without TO.
Washington has spent a ton of money again.. and well we know how that has gone in the past...
Dallas has improved this off season. With TO even if he is a pain off the field on the Field he is $$$
The Giants have been very quite this off season which to me is a good thing.
I think the East will go down as follows
NY Giants 11-5
Dallas 10-6 WC
Washington 8-8
Eagles 6-10
Washington has spent a ton of money again.. and well we know how that has gone in the past...
Dallas has improved this off season. With TO even if he is a pain off the field on the Field he is $$$
The Giants have been very quite this off season which to me is a good thing.
I think the East will go down as follows
NY Giants 11-5
Dallas 10-6 WC
Washington 8-8
Eagles 6-10
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
By your rationale the Eagles should be favored to win the NFC East. They were the team hit the hardest by injury last year. They will be getting back ProBowlers Donovan McNabb (who got hurt game 1), Brian Westbrook, Lito Sheppard, and Tra Thomas (David Akers was hurt too, but I'm not even considering his impact). They'll also be getting back starters Todd Pinkston, and Hank Fraley. Plus they have a wildcard in Jerome McDougal who hopefully will be able to play this year. They added a legitimate pass rush threat in Darren Howard which was an obvious weakness and should Shawn Barber stay healthy upgraded their outside linebacker position. They have better draft position than the Cowboys and should get an impact player at 14. And Reggie Brown, Mike Patterson, Trent Cole and Ryan Moats will have another year in the offense and defense. No team in the NFC can say they'll be adding as much to their team as the Eagles will just by getting players they already had back healthy.
fatness
Footballguy
They couldn't beat Washington last year. Washington has improved on offense and defense. Yes, Dallas is the betting favorite to win. But during the NFL season they'll likely finish second or third in their division, behind Washington and possibly New York. And that's if Bledsoe and Owens make it a whole year.
simmonjm
Footballguy
I love how Redskin fans forget the fact that they too have an old QB in Brunell. But yet that is never brought up. The only thing i keep hearing is Bledsoe is washed up and wont make it through the season. I actually think Bledsoe is the more durable QB when being compared to Brunell.
Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
The 6 wins they get will all be due to the defense.
The offense is going to be in dissarray. My guess is T.O. blows up before game 5 and doesn't finish the year. The offensive line is in shambles. And the rest of the offense is mediocre at best.
Please don't overrate the cowboys this year.
<<<===== That's all you do. Your little McGahee rants aren't even enjoyable to read, just lame. As for 6-10 Cowboys, I wish you were right as I dislike them with a passion, but yet again... just another lame fishing trip.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Last I checked the Eagles are still the same sorry team as they were last season without TO.
Washington has spent a ton of money again.. and well we know how that has gone in the past...
Dallas has improved this off season. With TO even if he is a pain off the field on the Field he is $$$
The Giants have been very quite this off season which to me is a good thing.
I think the East will go down as follows
NY Giants 11-5
Dallas 10-6 WC
Washington 8-8
Eagles 6-10
Joe T
Footballguy
Guess I was fishing last year too when I said McGahee would finish as the #16 overall RB and was not worth a 1st round pick?Every year its called fishing... but somehow my predictions ring true. I choose not to follow the guppy mentality here.The 6 wins they get will all be due to the defense.
The offense is going to be in dissarray. My guess is T.O. blows up before game 5 and doesn't finish the year. The offensive line is in shambles. And the rest of the offense is mediocre at best.
Please don't overrate the cowboys this year.
Sorry that you can't see that.
Joe T
Footballguy
It'd be funny if I weren't right so damn much of the time.DO A SEARCH....
look how many times I was called fishing last year... look how many of those predictions worked out. They are all documented here.
Sorry I don't fall in line with everyone else and just draft based on some predetermined group think.
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Buckeyedawgs
Footballguy
Cowboys goes to Super Bowl. No one gets even close to them in division. And I saw this comeing before Owens signing. Though have to admit Owens sealed the deal. Giants will be second best edgeing Washington for Wildcard but Dallas clinches 3 weeks early.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I think a major sig bet is in order here. Care to back up your bark with some bite, JoeT?
radballs.
Footballguy
I honestly do not think that five games will separate the top from the bottom team in the NFC East. I could see this thing being so close that only three games separates them all. Even though my team is in the AFC West, I'm really looking forward to seeing how the NFC East plays out. It's going to be a battle.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
I think this division will be an all out slug fest and when all the smoke clears I think the Cowboys end up 11-5 or 10-6. I think the Giants over achieved last season. I think the Redskins overachieved last season and I think the Eagles just flat out sucked.
This season, the rest of the league will catch up with Eli and he won't progress like everyone is assuming he will.
Brunell won't be able to match what he did last season, Campbell isn't ready for prime time and who the hell thinks Todd Collins can start and win? Everyone is raving about the guys Wash has signed but I am not impressed. They overpaid for some guys, just like they do every year.
The Eagles have no where to go but up and I think they do. They will be much better than everyone is predicting. I think they are the team that challenges Dallas for the division.
This season, the rest of the league will catch up with Eli and he won't progress like everyone is assuming he will.
Brunell won't be able to match what he did last season, Campbell isn't ready for prime time and who the hell thinks Todd Collins can start and win? Everyone is raving about the guys Wash has signed but I am not impressed. They overpaid for some guys, just like they do every year.
The Eagles have no where to go but up and I think they do. They will be much better than everyone is predicting. I think they are the team that challenges Dallas for the division.
redman
Footballguy
Whistle past the graveyard much? You're relying upon a 5-6-year old stereotype to characterize the 'Skins player-acquisition strategies.Washington has spent a ton of money again.. and well we know how that has gone in the past...
Please name a FA acquisition during the last 3 offseasons, i.e. the Gibbs II era, that has gone poorly on the field.
Oh, and spare me the rhetoric about "overpaying", because first of all that's their business and secondly it's never hindered their ability to acquire talent and sign people.
Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
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Joe T Aug 30 2004, 11:15 AM Post #1
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Every year the message board hype swarms over a number of high profile players yet rarely do many of these guys ever pan out. Here is my current ranking of players who are over hyped and being drafted way ahead of their actual fantasy football value:
1. Quentin Griffin – easily the most hyped player of the preseason. Second round now? The guy has never done anything and the backfield is still muddled. I will wait on Hearst in the later rounds and I expect him to take over the starting role by week 3.
2. Willis McGahee - Is he going to see any valuable playing time? No. Yet he is still being taken in the 7th and 8th round in drafts.
3. Larry Fitzgerald - Haven’t seen this much hype on a rookie in a long time. He does have a chance to put up decent numbers, but not likely 7th round type numbers.
4. Charles Rogers – Not sold on this guy either since now he is going in the 5th round of drafts and has yet to have a meaningful NFL contribution to his resume.
5. Quincy Morgan - Wow. This guy is terrible, can’t catch, and is in the middle of muddled WR situation yet he is going around the 30th – 35th WR overall. I just don’t understand this at all.
6. Lee Suggs – interesting player though he hasn’t officially been named the #1 back. Has yet to prove enough to be a 3rd rounder IMO.
7. Javon Walker - May not even start the opening game, may be the 3rd best receiver on the team, has never proved he can produce and he is going in the 4th and 5th rounds. I don’t like being the guy that says at the end of the season, ‘See I told you that guy was going to be good.’ But apparently there are a lot of people that do.
8. David Terrell/Justin Gage – bad offense, bad QB, bad receivers. I’ll pass.
9. Brandon Loyd - Has not proven anything in the regular season but is being hyped by about 12 threads per day on this board.
10. Keary Colbert – Buried at #4 on the Carolina depth chart yet there are 3 FBG staff members who have this guy in their top 60 WRs. He is about 5 times more likely to finish out of the top 100 than to finish in the top 60.
Honorable Mentions:
Thomas Jones – still a suspect offense although it looks like he will have the opportunity to produce. Still too many threads on a guy that has been a perennial bust.
Tyrone Calico – good player, but not worth the attention he is getting.
You're no genius, those were 3 BIG, FAT HORRENDOUS CALLS.
You were trashing on McGahee even back then, before he played an NFL game, a 7th/8th round bust you said, Your hatred of Willis is beyond lame. Now you say you "Called it" that McGahee wasn't worth a 1st rounder last year, well, I'm here to tell you that you "Blew it" saying he wasn't worth a 7th in 2004. Grow up.
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Joe T Aug 30 2004, 11:15 AM Post #1
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Every year the message board hype swarms over a number of high profile players yet rarely do many of these guys ever pan out. Here is my current ranking of players who are over hyped and being drafted way ahead of their actual fantasy football value:
1. Quentin Griffin – easily the most hyped player of the preseason. Second round now? The guy has never done anything and the backfield is still muddled. I will wait on Hearst in the later rounds and I expect him to take over the starting role by week 3.
2. Willis McGahee - Is he going to see any valuable playing time? No. Yet he is still being taken in the 7th and 8th round in drafts.
3. Larry Fitzgerald - Haven’t seen this much hype on a rookie in a long time. He does have a chance to put up decent numbers, but not likely 7th round type numbers.
4. Charles Rogers – Not sold on this guy either since now he is going in the 5th round of drafts and has yet to have a meaningful NFL contribution to his resume.
5. Quincy Morgan - Wow. This guy is terrible, can’t catch, and is in the middle of muddled WR situation yet he is going around the 30th – 35th WR overall. I just don’t understand this at all.
6. Lee Suggs – interesting player though he hasn’t officially been named the #1 back. Has yet to prove enough to be a 3rd rounder IMO.
7. Javon Walker - May not even start the opening game, may be the 3rd best receiver on the team, has never proved he can produce and he is going in the 4th and 5th rounds. I don’t like being the guy that says at the end of the season, ‘See I told you that guy was going to be good.’ But apparently there are a lot of people that do.
8. David Terrell/Justin Gage – bad offense, bad QB, bad receivers. I’ll pass.
9. Brandon Loyd - Has not proven anything in the regular season but is being hyped by about 12 threads per day on this board.
10. Keary Colbert – Buried at #4 on the Carolina depth chart yet there are 3 FBG staff members who have this guy in their top 60 WRs. He is about 5 times more likely to finish out of the top 100 than to finish in the top 60.
Honorable Mentions:
Thomas Jones – still a suspect offense although it looks like he will have the opportunity to produce. Still too many threads on a guy that has been a perennial bust.
Tyrone Calico – good player, but not worth the attention he is getting.
You're no genius, those were 3 BIG, FAT HORRENDOUS CALLS.
You were trashing on McGahee even back then, before he played an NFL game, a 7th/8th round bust you said, Your hatred of Willis is beyond lame. Now you say you "Called it" that McGahee wasn't worth a 1st rounder last year, well, I'm here to tell you that you "Blew it" saying he wasn't worth a 7th in 2004. Grow up.
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Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
Thanks Captain Obvious. Finish the rest of the quote.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
Considering the Eagles had been in the NFC championship game the three previous years, and they won that game WITHOUT Owens, I would say they did a little bit better but it would be very difficult to credit TO with that.Still, I think it would be a stretch to think Dallas doesn't win at least nine games this coming season. The playoffs seem likely and a strong postseason run is hardly beyond comprehension... and I don't particularly like the Cowboys.
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SoloMatisse
Footballguy
Willis McGahee is going to be traded to the Cowboys for Julius Jones and lead the 'Boys to a 14-2 record and the friggin' Superbowl....against Houston. The Cowboys will beat Houston 38-0 in the bowl and McGahee will have ended his brilliant year by rushing for 267yds and 5 TDs....and be named the "BassMasterClassic's" Chevrolet Superbowl MVP Player of the Game/World's Greatest 4th Round Fantasy Pick of all Time. Stick to the shallow waters and the reeds.....the deep water is a little dangerous.
Traders2001
Footballguy
The Iggles have by far the worst team in the division ( no offense at all ). The Boys are at least as good as the Skins and it will be a tough fight vs the Giants .No way, Dallas will be Tops in there division this Year, then the Giants, then the Skins, then the Iggles.
So i say .
Giants 13 - 3
Cowboys 11 - 5 ( Wildcard )
Skins 9 - 7 ( Eliminated )
Iggles 6 - 10 ( They are bad )
