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Really? the 45th pick in the 2003 draft? Im not saying he doesnt belong as thats not the premise of this sub-discussion, just that he was a BIG reach. Hindsight is 20/20 but i remember not being able to find him in my draft guide. Boldin was one WR drafted after him, Burelson another.
Convenient to leave out the Cards took Bryant Johnson BEFORE Boldin & he's hardly set the world on fire. Further, Taylor Jacobs went before Bethel as well and he's totaled a Bethel-like 30 catches for 315 yards a single TD in three years.The draft is a crap shoot. All in all I think the Bill/Scott-led Pats have faired pretty well in the inexact science that is the Draft. I'd say there's been slightly more good than bad. And, more teams than not can't say the same!
 
Patriots | M. Mitchell contract update

Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:14:52 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports New England Patriots FS Mel Mitchell signed a two-year contract with base salaries of $550,000 (2006) and $700,000 (2007). The deal included a $250,000 signing bonus and a $30,000 workout bonus each season.

Patriots | Rasmussen works out

Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:14:26 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports free agent DL Kemp Rasmussen (Panthers) worked out with the New England Patriots earlier this week.

* The Patriots worked out free-agent defensive end Kemp Rasmussen earlier this week. Rasmussen (6-foot-3, 265 pounds) enters his fifth NFL season in 2006, playing the first four years of his career with the Panthers. Rasmussen, primarily a backup, has played in 50 games. He is considered a solid special teams player. The 27-year-old entered the league in 2002 as an undrafted free agent out of Indiana.

Giants | Team will visit with C. Brown

Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:45:06 -0700

Bob Glauber, of Newsday, reports while talks with free agent LB LaVar Arrington (Redskins) remain at a standstill, the New York Giants plan to bring in another outside linebacker to add depth at the position. Free agent LB Chad Brown (Patriots) is expected to visit with the Giants shortly. "We're going to talk (Thursday) and set up a visit," Brown's agent, Peter Schaefer, said Wednesday, April 5. "Chad is very excited about meeting with the staff. There are no absolutes or definites, but we'll see what happens."

 
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Patriots | Team has pre-draft visit with R. Edwards

Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:43:11 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots held a pre-draft visit with Purdue DE Ray Edwards Tuesday evening, April 4.

Patriots | Team has pre-draft visit with T. Hill :thumbup:

Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:39:52 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots held a pre-draft visit with Clemson CB Tye Hill Tuesday evening, April 4.

from boston.com

Pats host two

The Patriots hosted two draft prospects at Gillette Stadium on Tuesday night, Clemson cornerback Tye Hill and Purdue defensive end Ray Edwards.

Hill is a smaller corner at 5-foot-9½ and 185 pounds, but has blazing speed (4.35 in the 40-yard dash). He started his career at Clemson as a running back before switching to defense in 2003. He started 34 games over the last three seasons.

The overall cornerback crop isn’t considered deep in the 2006 draft, and Hill is one of the top prospects available.

Edwards (6-4, 279), who enters the draft after his junior season, isn’t considered a first-round talent but the Pro Football Weekly draft guide notes that he has “outstanding size and size potential”, as well as a 39-inch vertical leap.

A pre-draft visit usually means a team is still seeking more information on a player. NFL teams can now host up to 30 out-of-town players on visits before the draft.

A visit doesn’t necessarily mean the team will draft the player, as evidenced by last year, when the Patriots selected guard Logan Mankins in the first round without hosting him at Gillette Stadium.

I read this last sentence and I wondered if these visits sometimes tips a teams hand on what they are planning. I am sure other teams take note of it... :2cents:

 
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Patriots | Flutie status still uncertain

Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:27:12 -0700

Chris Kennedy, of The Republican, reports QB Doug Flutie is still considering returning to play football but will only play for the New England Patriots.



Patriots | Warfield contract update

Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:25:56 -0700

Updating previous reports, Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports New England Patriots CB Eric Warfield's new contract has no signing bonus. Also, he will receive a $31,000 workout bonus in 2006 and a $56,000 workout bonus in 2007.

 
* Patriots owner Robert Kraft is part of an eight-man search committee that will help lead the process of finding a new NFL commissioner, ESPN.com reports. The appointment is another sign of Kraft's growing influence in the league. :thumbup:

 
Patriots | M. Mitchell contract update

Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:14:52 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports New England Patriots FS Mel Mitchell signed a two-year contract with base salaries of $550,000 (2006) and $700,000 (2007). The deal included a $250,000 signing bonus and a $30,000 workout bonus each season.

Patriots | Rasmussen works out

Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:14:26 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports free agent DL Kemp Rasmussen (Panthers) worked out with the New England Patriots earlier this week.

* The Patriots worked out free-agent defensive end Kemp Rasmussen earlier this week. Rasmussen (6-foot-3, 265 pounds) enters his fifth NFL season in 2006, playing the first four years of his career with the Panthers. Rasmussen, primarily a backup, has played in 50 games. He is considered a solid special teams player. The 27-year-old entered the league in 2002 as an undrafted free agent out of Indiana.

Giants | Team will visit with C. Brown

Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:45:06 -0700

Bob Glauber, of Newsday, reports while talks with free agent LB LaVar Arrington (Redskins) remain at a standstill, the New York Giants plan to bring in another outside linebacker to add depth at the position. Free agent LB Chad Brown (Patriots) is expected to visit with the Giants shortly. "We're going to talk (Thursday) and set up a visit," Brown's agent, Peter Schaefer, said Wednesday, April 5. "Chad is very excited about meeting with the staff. There are no absolutes or definites, but we'll see what happens."
Looking at Rasmussen's size (6'3, 265) I wonder if the Pats see him as a LB. He would be smallish for a Pats D lineman and sizewise fits much more in the mold of a LB like Vrabel or Willie. The Pats tend to like their LBs and Dlinemen on the bigger size and a 265lb lineman is pretty small for their 3-4 scheme.
 
Looking at Rasmussen's size (6'3, 265) I wonder if the Pats see him as a LB.  He would be smallish for a Pats D lineman and sizewise fits much more in the mold of a LB like Vrabel or Willie.  The Pats tend to like their LBs and Dlinemen on the bigger size and a 265lb lineman is pretty small for their 3-4 scheme.
I'm thinking this guy sounds like a BB project, what do you think?Stanley McClover, DE*, Auburn, 6-3, 258, 4.56, 2-3

Natural pass rusher with rare straight line speed and big-play ability. Averaged almost one tackle for loss per game with 23½. Had 66 total tackles, with 15½ sacks. Spectacular speed off edge, but hasn't developed counter-moves.

 
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Really? the 45th pick in the 2003 draft? Im not saying he doesnt belong as thats not the premise of this sub-discussion, just that he was a BIG reach. Hindsight is 20/20 but i remember not being able to find him in my draft guide. Boldin was one WR drafted after him, Burelson another.
Convenient to leave out the Cards took Bryant Johnson BEFORE Boldin & he's hardly set the world on fire. Further, Taylor Jacobs went before Bethel as well and he's totaled a Bethel-like 30 catches for 315 yards a single TD in three years.The draft is a crap shoot. All in all I think the Bill/Scott-led Pats have faired pretty well in the inexact science that is the Draft. I'd say there's been slightly more good than bad. And, more teams than not can't say the same!
Agreed!!
 
Looking at Rasmussen's size (6'3, 265) I wonder if the Pats see him as a LB.  He would be smallish for a Pats D lineman and sizewise fits much more in the mold of a LB like Vrabel or Willie.  The Pats tend to like their LBs and Dlinemen on the bigger size and a 265lb lineman is pretty small for their 3-4 scheme.
I'm thinking this guy sounds like a BB project, what do you think?Stanley McClover, DE*, Auburn, 6-3, 258, 4.56, 2-3

Natural pass rusher with rare straight line speed and big-play ability. Averaged almost one tackle for loss per game with 23½. Had 66 total tackles, with 15½ sacks. Spectacular speed off edge, but hasn't developed counter-moves.
On paper that reeks of a BB project for OLB. I'd love to know whether they plan on Vrabel playing inside or out. That obviously has huge ramifications for what they'll do. Right now there is one LB spot totally open and with the style they play that's a major piece of the puzzle. In the past they have gone the veteran route...it will be interesting to see if that continues or they go for it in the draft with a guy like Carpenter or Lawson.

 
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I'd love to know whether they plan on Vrabel playing inside or out.
It wouldn't surprise me if that has yet to be determined.
Could be. You have guys like Claridge, Alexander and Beisel who you really don't know what you have. Add in a rookie or two and a veteran or two and they could go into camp and let the players prove what they are and than decide. That being said I gotta believe BB/Pioli have some type of plan in place. The LB position is far too important in their scheme to be winging it.
 
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WEEI reporting that the Pats signed Martin Gramatica...searching for a print reference...
April 06, 2006Pats reach contract agreement with Jones, Gramatica

Tebucky Jones is back with the Patriots. And they also finally have a replacement for departed kicker Adam Vinatieri.

Veteran kicker Martin Gramatica, who last kicked in the National Football League in 2004, has agreed to contract terms with the Patriots. Gramatica kicked for Tampa Bay from 1999-2003, and was with the Colts in 2004.

Jones, a former No. 1 draft choice with the Pats, is back with New England after spending 2003-04 with New Orleans and 2005 in Miami. Jones played for the Pats from 1998-2002. He also agreed to terms with the Pats today.

Check tomorrow's Providence Journal for more details.

-- Tom E. Curran

 
Patriots | Jones signed

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:08:07 -0700

Tom Casale, of Patriots Football Weekly, reports the New England Patriots have signed free agent S Tebucky Jones (Dolphins).

Jets | Team pursuing T. Jones

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:26:21 -0700

Tom E. Curran, of the Providence Journal, reports the New York Jets are pursuing free agent S Tebucky Jones (Dolphins) after visiting with him. However, at this point he appears to be leaning to signing with the New England Patriots.

Patriots | Team trying to sign T. Jones

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:24:33 -0700

Tom E. Curran, of ther Providence Journal, reports conversations between the New England Patriots and free agent S Tebucky Jones' (Dolphins) agent, Gary Wichard, heated up in the last few days, and Jones appears close to rejoining the team that traded him in 2003.

 
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Bills to open

The Patriots will open the 2006 NFL season by hosting the Bills at Gillette Stadium on Sunday, Sept. 10 (1 p.m.).

The team will also host the Broncos on Sunday, Sept. 24 in a prime-time game (8:15 p.m.).

The Patriots host the Colts in a prime-time contest Sunday, Nov. 5 (8:15 p.m.).

The Patriots 2006 schedule is as follows (all times eastern):

Sunday, Sept. 10 – vs. Bills, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Sept. 17 – at Jets, 4:15 p.m.

Sunday, Sept. 24 – vs. Broncos, 8:15 p.m.

Sunday, Oct. 1 – at Bengals, 4:15 p.m.

Sunday, Oct. 8 – vs. Dolphins, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Oct. 15 – BYE

Sunday, Oct. 22 – at Bills, 1 p.m.

Monday, Oct. 30 – at Vikings, 8:30 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 5 – vs. Colts, 8:15 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 12 – vs. Jets, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 19 – at Packers, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 26 – vs. Bears, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 3 – vs. Lions, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 10 – at Dolphins, 1 p.m.

Sunday. Dec. 17 – vs. Texans, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 24 – at Jaguars, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 31 – at Titans, 1 p.m.

During the second half of the 2006 season (Week 16 is a holiday weekend and won't be subject to any changes), Sunday afternoon games tentatively scheduled for 1 p.m. will be eligible for re-scheduling to reach a larger network audience at 4 p.m., or to be showcased on NBC's nationally televised prime time games at 8:30 p.m. The NFL will inform the teams and fans of any changes 12 days prior to the game during Weeks 10-15 and no later than six days before the regular season finale in Week 17.

PRESEASON DATES SET: The Patriots set their 2006 preseason schedule as well today. The schedule is as follows for the preseason:

Friday, Aug. 11 -- at Falcons (8 p.m., Ch. 4)

Saturday, Aug. 19 -- vs. Cardinals (8 p.m., NFL Network)

Saturday, Aug. 26 -- vs. Redskins (8 p.m., Ch. 5)

Thursday, Aug. 31 -- at N.Y. Giants (7:30 p.m., Ch. 5)

Patriots | Team will BYE Week 6

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:40:38 -0700

The New England Patriots will have their BYE week during Week 6 of the 2006 season.

 
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From Boston.com

More on signings

The signing of safety Tebucky Jones continues an offseason theme for the Patriots.

The addition of Jones comes after the Patriots previously signed unrestricted free agents Eric Warfield (cornerback) and Mel Mitchell (safety), and re-signed unrestricted free agents Artrell Hawkins (safety), Chad Scott (cornerback/safety) and Hank Poteat (cornerback), and exclusive rights free agents Guss Scott (safety) and Randall Gay (cornerback).

Gay, an exclusive rights free agent, is expected to be officially re-signed by the end of the week. He has been working out at Gillette Stadium in recent months while recovering from an ankle injury.

The team brought a surplus of defensive backs to training camp last year and -- after another season in which injuries ravaged that part of the roster -- appear to be taking a similar course this year. Also, Rodney Harrison is rehabbing from a serious knee injury and the team is seemingly protecting itself.

The roster breakdown looks like this in the defensive backfield:

Cornerback: Asante Samuel, Ellis Hobbs, Randall Gay, Eric Warfield, Chad Scott, Hank Poteat, Antwain Spann

Safety: Rodney Harrison, Eugene Wilson, Artrell Hawkins, Mel Mitchell, James Sanders, Tebucky Jones, Guss Scott, Ray Ventrone

Jones returns to the team that selected him in the first round of the 1998 draft. He has played for the Patriots (1998-2002), Saints (2003-2004) and Dolphins (2005).

Meanwhile, the signing of Martin Gramatica adds a veteran to what is likely going to be a training camp competition for the team’s kicker job. The Patriots previously visited with free agent Paul Edinger at Gillette Stadium, but at this time elected to go with the excitable Gramatica, who was out of football in 2005. Gramatica kicked for the Buccaneers from 1999-2004. He was cut after 11 games and filled in for the Colts later in 2004.

 
I was thinking about this first one when I heard about the Gramatica signing. I dont think this stops the Pats from drafting a kicker...

Patriots | Team to likely bring in young kicker

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:09:24 -0700

Tom Casale, of Patriots Football Weekly, reports the New England Patriots will likely bring in a young kicker to compete with PK Martin Gramatica.

Patriots | M. Gramatica signed

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:08:28 -0700

Tom Casale, of Patriots Football Weekly, reports the New England Patriots have signed free agent PK Martin Gramatica (Colts).

Gramatica, who was out of football in 2005, will compete for the job left open by Super Bowl hero Adam Vinatieri's departure to the Indianapolis Colts.

Gramatica, 30, spent the 1999-2003 seasons with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and played 11 games for the team in 2004 before being waived after hitting just 11-of-19 field goal attempts. He was picked up by the Colts later that year as a kickoff specialist.

Gramatica has converted 76.5 percent of his career field goal attempts (137-of-179) and 11-of-12 field goal attempts in the playoffs. He was selected to the 2000 Pro Bowl

 
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Patriots to appear in at least five nationally televised games

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. - The National Football League released its 2006 regular season schedule today. For the fifth consecutive season, the New England Patriots will appear in at least five nationally televised games, including their first two preseason contests. The Patriots also have seven games (Weeks 10-15 and Week 17) that are eligible to be moved to NBC’s prime time slot under the NFL’s new flexible scheduling policy. During the second half of the 2006 season (Week 16 is a holiday weekend and won’t be subject to any changes), Sunday afternoon games tentatively scheduled for 1:00 p.m. will be eligible for re-scheduling to reach a larger network audience at 4:00 p.m., or to be showcased on NBC’s nationally televised prime time games at 8:30 p.m. The NFL will inform the teams and fans of any changes 12 days prior to the game during Weeks 10-15 and no later than six days before the regular season finale in Week 17.

 
I was thinking about this first one when I heard about the Gramatica signing.  I dont think this stops the Pats from drafting a kicker...

Patriots | Team to likely bring in young kicker

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:09:24 -0700

Tom Casale, of Patriots Football Weekly, reports the New England Patriots will likely bring in a young kicker to compete with PK Martin Gramatica.

Patriots | M. Gramatica signed

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:08:28 -0700

Tom Casale, of Patriots Football Weekly, reports the New England Patriots have signed free agent PK Martin Gramatica (Colts).

Gramatica, who was out of football in 2005, will compete for the job left open by Super Bowl hero Adam Vinatieri's departure to the Indianapolis Colts.

Gramatica, 30, spent the 1999-2003 seasons with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and played 11 games for the team in 2004 before being waived after hitting just 11-of-19 field goal attempts. He was picked up by the Colts later that year as a kickoff specialist.

Gramatica has converted 76.5 percent of his career field goal attempts (137-of-179) and 11-of-12 field goal attempts in the playoffs. He was selected to the 2000 Pro Bowl
I was remembering when Gramatica was called Automatica....figured I would go get his stats. I know he fizzled at the end of his career with TB, but maybe things will be looking up for him.| Year TM | Made ATT PCT | Made ATT | Points |

+----------+------------------+------------+--------+

| 1999 tam | 27 32 84.4 | 25 25 | 106 |

| 2000 tam | 28 34 82.4 | 42 42 | 126 |

| 2001 tam | 23 29 79.3 | 28 28 | 97 |

| 2002 tam | 32 39 82.1 | 32 32 | 128 |

| 2003 tam | 16 26 61.5 | 33 34 | 81 |

| 2004 tam | 11 19 57.9 | 21 22 | 54 |

+----------+------------------+------------+--------+

| TOTAL | 137 179 76.5 | 181 183 | 592

Hmmm he seemed more automatic on extra points than field goals! lol

(from bostonherald.com) Once known as “Automatica,” particularly on field goals of 50-plus yards, Gramatica’s success rate dipped from 82.1 to 61.5 to 57.9 over his final three seasons in Tampa Bay.

 
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Bills to open

The Patriots will open the 2006 NFL season by hosting the Bills at Gillette Stadium on Sunday, Sept. 10 (1 p.m.).

The team will also host the Broncos on Sunday, Sept. 24 in a prime-time game (8:15 p.m.).

The Patriots host the Colts in a prime-time contest Sunday, Nov. 5 (8:15 p.m.).

The Patriots 2006 schedule is as follows (all times eastern):

Sunday, Sept. 10 – vs. Bills, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Sept. 17 – at Jets, 4:15 p.m.

Sunday, Sept. 24 – vs. Broncos, 8:15 p.m.

Sunday, Oct. 1 – at Bengals, 4:15 p.m.

Sunday, Oct. 8 – vs. Dolphins, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Oct. 15 – BYE

Sunday, Oct. 22 – at Bills, 1 p.m.

Monday, Oct. 30 – at Vikings, 8:30 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 5 – vs. Colts, 8:15 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 12 – vs. Jets, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 19 – at Packers, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 26 – vs. Bears, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 3 – vs. Lions, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 10 – at Dolphins, 1 p.m.

Sunday. Dec. 17 – vs. Texans, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 24 – at Jaguars, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 31 – at Titans, 1 p.m.

During the second half of the 2006 season (Week 16 is a holiday weekend and won't be subject to any changes), Sunday afternoon games tentatively scheduled for 1 p.m. will be eligible for re-scheduling to reach a larger network audience at 4 p.m., or to be showcased on NBC's nationally televised prime time games at 8:30 p.m. The NFL will inform the teams and fans of any changes 12 days prior to the game during Weeks 10-15 and no later than six days before the regular season finale in Week 17.

PRESEASON DATES SET: The Patriots set their 2006 preseason schedule as well today. The schedule is as follows for the preseason:

Friday, Aug. 11 -- at Falcons (8 p.m., Ch. 4)

Saturday, Aug. 19 -- vs. Cardinals (8 p.m., NFL Network)

Saturday, Aug. 26 -- vs. Redskins (8 p.m., Ch. 5)

Thursday, Aug. 31 -- at N.Y. Giants (7:30 p.m., Ch. 5)

Patriots | Team will BYE Week 6

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:40:38 -0700

The New England Patriots will have their BYE week during Week 6 of the 2006 season.
Schedule not a killerPosted by: John Tomase (bostonherald.com)

The Elias sports bureau ranked the start of last season’s Patriots schedule the toughest in history. Things aren’t looking nearly that brutal this year.

Save for a three-game run from Sept. 24 to Oct. 8 leading into the bye that features games against Denver, at Cincinnati, and home against Miami, the schedule seems to lack any real killer stretches.

The Pats open with Buffalo and the Jets, two teams beginning to rebuild under new coaches **** Jauron and Eric Mangini, respectively. Then comes the Denver-Cincy-Miami stretch and after that, they might not face consecutive tough games until the final two weeks of the season, when they visit Jacksonville on Christmas Eve and Tennessee on New Year’s Eve.

The schedule otherwise includes foes like Green Bay, Detroit, Houston, Minnesota and Chicago. The Bears were a playoff team last year, and they’re not particularly scary.

In this age of parity nothing’s a given, but for now the schedule appears to be working in the Patriots’ favor.

 
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NFL | Six teams with four prime-time appearances

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:33:32 -0700

The NFL Network reports six teams - the Dallas Cowboys, Denver Broncos, New York Giants, Pittsburgh Steelers, Seattle Seahawks and Oakland Raiders - have the most prime-time appearances on the 2006 NFL regular season schedule with four games each.

(from bostonherald.com)

As it stands now, the Patriots are scheduled to play three primetime games, all in the first half of the season: Sunday, Sept. 24 against Denver at 8:15 on NBC; Oct. 30 on Monday Night Football at Minnesota; and Sunday, Nov. 5 against the Colts at 8:15.

They’re scheduled to play 1 p.m. games for the final eight weeks of the season, which reflects both their diminished stature in the eyes of the league and the lackluster quality of their competition.

But with the flexible schedule, a good start means the Pats could find themselves back on in primetime down the stretch.

 
Gramatica's Downward Spiral Explained? (was reading a few threads on the guy)

Gramatica had four stellar years with the Bucs from 1999-2002 before spiraling downward in 2003 and being released. His powerful leg helped Gramatica connect on 14 kicks of over 50 yards during his time in Tampa Bay.Gramatica had surgery on his lower abdomen early in 2004 and some believe that contributed to his struggles kicking the football because it affected his accuracy and power. He’s now believed to be fully recovered from his injury, so Gramatica will have a shot to win the kicking job in training camp. The Patriots will likely bring in a young kicker to compete with the veteran but if Gramatica can revert back to his old form, New England could have a steal on their hands.
For the first four years of his career, Martin Gramatica was one of the better kickers in the NFL. His field goal average was over 80% in three of those years, and he didn’t miss any extra points. He was a very impressive from long range, going 13 of 20 on field goals 50 yards and beyond. He consistently got distance and touchbacks on kickoffs. Then on that fateful day of September 14, 2003 everything changed. The Carolina Panthers blocked two field goal and one extra point attempts by Gramatica. It may not have been his fault, but he never recovered. For the next year and a half he looked good in practice in both regular and pre-season but continued to miss kicks in games. He tried everything. He studied game films, he improved his conditioning workouts, and he even switched his jersey to his old lucky college number. Nothing worked. Tampa Bay finally gave up after 11 games into the 2004 season, when he missed all three field goal attempts in a game (against Carolina ironically). He was released several days later.
 
Schedule thoughts (from boston.com)

The bye is a little early, after just five games. A Broncos-Bengals-Dolphins back-to-back-to-back stretch in weeks 3-4-5 is difficult. Three of the final four games are on the road.

Those elements seem to be the most challenging of the 2006 Patriots schedule.

On the whole, however, the schedule looks to be more favorable compared to the last two seasons.

In 2004, the Patriots had their bye in Week 3 and had short weeks during the Thanksgiving and Christmas holiday weeks, which led to the coaching staff preparing for future opponents prior to playing the team next on its schedule.

In 2005, a murderer’s row of the Panthers-Steelers-Chargers-Falcons-Broncos was on the Patriots’ schedule in weeks 2-3-4-5-6. There were also three short weeks on the schedule, where the team had one less day to prepare for its next game due to Monday or Saturday games.

There is only one short week in 2006, after the Patriots visit the Vikings on Monday Night Football Oct. 30. The next week’s opponent is the Colts, at home on Nov. 5. But it’s worth noting that the Colts will be coming off what should be a challenging trip to Denver.

Football players often talk about the benefit of settling into a routine week after week. The 2006 schedule should give the Patriots the opportunity to do that.

And that's not to mention that the Patriots will be playing eight games against teams with first-year head coaches (Jets, Bills twice). That usually means those teams had down years in 2005, and while that doesn't mean it will carry over to 2006, it often takes a first-year coach time to implement his program.

 
Here is to adding depth... :banned:

Patriots | Contract update: T. Jones

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:40:22 -0700

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports New England Patriots S Tebucky Jones signed a two-year, $2 million contract to join the Patriots.

Patriots | Team expected to re-sign R. Gay this week

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:08:37 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots expect to re-sign exclusive-rights free agent CB Randall Gay (Patriots) by the end of this week.

 
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I have seen these guys ranked lately as Hughes, Gostkowski, and Hughes...personally I think Gostkowski is the best fit for the Patriots. Gramatica won't be guaranteed a starting positions from what I read (For kicks, Gramatica signed as a possible replacement)....we will see how camp goes. I still think the Pats will use a fourth rounder on one of these guys.

Patriots | Team sending Seely to visit with Gostkowski

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:13:53 -0700

John Tomase, of the Boston Herald, reports the New England Patriots are sending special teams coach Brad Seely to meet with Memphis PK Stephen Gostkowski Wednesday, April 12.

Patriots | Team sending Seely to visit with C. Hughes

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:12:11 -0700

John Tomase, of the Boston Herald, reports the New England Patriots are sending special teams coach Brad Seely to meet with Virginia PK Connor Hughes Tuesday, April 11.

Patriots | Team sending Seely to visit with Huston

Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:08:56 -0700

John Tomase, of the Boston Herald, reports the New England Patriots are sending special teams coach Brad Seely to meet with Ohio State PK Josh Huston Monday, April 10.

I was wondering why they think Huston will go undrafted? How many kickers usually get drafted at the draft? I would think three to four do.

Huston, rated among the top three kickers in this year's draft by most scouts, is probably going to go undrafted and will sign as a free agent the day after the draft. Stephen Gostkowski of Memphis, Jon Scifres of Southwest Missouri State, and Connor Hughes of Virginia are other highly rated draft-eligible kickers.
 
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Stephen Gostkowski

Height: 6-2 | Weight: 200 | 40-Time: 5.05 

Strengths:

Has a strong enough leg...Accurate and is money in the bank from 40-yards on in...Very productive...Consistent and extremely reliable...Was a four-year starter.

Weaknesses:

Was not put in many high-pressure situations...Never devoted his full attention to football...Probably doesn't have the range to kick 50+ yarders...Limited upside.

Notes:

Participated in the Senior Bowl...Was also a pitcher on the Memphis Tiger Baseball team...Finished up as the NCAA's "active" career leader in field goals and PATs.

There is also

Connor Hughes

Height: 5-10 | Weight: 172 | 40-Time: 4.77 

Strengths:

Has a pretty strong leg with range beyond 50 yards...Was very reliable and consistent...Doesn't miss the short ones...Experienced and a four-year starter.

Weaknesses:

Accuracy beyond 40 yards gets a little dodgy...Mechanics on longer kicks change for the worse...Is not very big...Probably won't be able to kick-off in the pros.

Notes:

Career long is a 50-yarder which he attained five times...Went 66 for 79 (84%) in his career on field goals...A solid player who makes the kicks he is supposed to.

Josh Huston

Height: 6-1 | Weight: 195 | 40-Time: 4.97 

Strengths:

Has a very strong leg...Has range up to and beyond 50-yards...Has experience in bad weather...Versatile and can also punt...Should be a excellent kick-off guy.

Weaknesses:

Has only one year of major experience...Very inconsistant and only hit 66% (25 of 38) for his career on field goals...Missed on a lot of his long attempts...Durability.

Notes:

Missed parts of 2000 and 2002 campaigns due to injuries and was granted a rare sixth year of eligibilty by the NCAA...Took over for the great Mike Nugent in 2005.
Just a reminder on these three guys...still think one of them will be a Patriot after the draft. :D On Draft day should we start an *** Official Patriot Drafting Thread *** or continue in this thread? :popcorn: hi ho hi ho its off to work I go...... :bye:

 
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They’re scheduled to play 1 p.m. games for the final eight weeks of the season, which reflects both their diminished stature in the eyes of the league and the lackluster quality of their competition.

But with the flexible schedule, a good start means the Pats could find themselves back on in primetime down the stretch.
A couple thoughts on the schedule - first, with the balanced, 32 team league schedule there is no room for weighting. The majority of the schedule is known in advance. The only things that change are the teams that ranked similarly in other divisions - that's why we have the Broncos - we won the East, they won the west. That's why we have the Bengals too.Second, if I understand correctly, weeks 10-15 and 17 don't have any Sunday night games scheduled. The NFL now has the flexibility to let NBC cherry pick (with input/challenge from Fox & CBS) their Sunday night games during those weeks.

I see the three primetime games as exactly opposite of 'diminished stature'.

 
The only things that change are the teams that ranked similarly in other divisions - that's why we have the Broncos
Do you realize that we have played these guys in the regular season every year since 1995, with the exception of only one season? This year will mark the 11th season out of the past 12.
 
The only things that change are the teams that ranked similarly in other divisions - that's why we have the Broncos
Do you realize that we have played these guys in the regular season every year since 1995, with the exception of only one season? This year will mark the 11th season out of the past 12.
really?that's dopey

 
The only things that change are the teams that ranked similarly in other divisions - that's why we have the Broncos
Do you realize that we have played these guys in the regular season every year since 1995, with the exception of only one season? This year will mark the 11th season out of the past 12.
Not the point. The point is that once the league went to 32 teams, there's a 'formulaic' approach to the scheduling. Its explained here:Future Schedules

The Pats were first in the AFC East last year so they have to play the first place team from the AFC West and AFC North this year. The rest was already set.

 
The only things that change are the teams that ranked similarly in other divisions - that's why we have the Broncos
Do you realize that we have played these guys in the regular season every year since 1995, with the exception of only one season? This year will mark the 11th season out of the past 12.
Not the point. The point is that once the league went to 32 teams, there's a 'formulaic' approach to the scheduling. Its explained here:Future Schedules

The Pats were first in the AFC East last year so they have to play the first place team from the AFC West and AFC North this year. The rest was already set.
:shakes head:but the formula was created to avoid this and also teams that "never" play each other too

 
The only things that change are the teams that ranked similarly in other divisions - that's why we have the Broncos
Do you realize that we have played these guys in the regular season every year since 1995, with the exception of only one season? This year will mark the 11th season out of the past 12.
Not the point. The point is that once the league went to 32 teams, there's a 'formulaic' approach to the scheduling. Its explained here:Future Schedules

The Pats were first in the AFC East last year so they have to play the first place team from the AFC West and AFC North this year. The rest was already set.
:shakes head:but the formula was created to avoid this and also teams that "never" play each other too
:shakes head really fast while typing:But the formula had to be implemented at some point in time. The past couldn't be changed. Look at the future schedules. It makes perfect sense.

:still shaking head:

 
Patriots | Contract update: M. Gramatica

Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:31:41 -0700

New England Patriots PK Martin Gramatica signed a one-year contract with a base salary of $585,000 in 2006.

Patriots | Contract update: T. Jones

Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:25:33 -0700

New England Patriots S Tebucky Jones signed a two-year contract with base salaries of $710,000 (2006) and $720,000 (2007).

Patriots | Gramatica was at full strength in 2005

Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:17:16 -0700

Jerome Solomon, of the Boston Globe, reports New England Patriots PK Martin Gramatica went through rehabilitation in June 2005 after having surgery to repair tears in his lower abdomen and adductor muscle. He was at full strength during the 2005 NFL season, but he did not sign with a team. "I told him, 'I feel bad that you're here with me; you need to be on TV on Sundays winning football games,' " said Jason Biles, a physical therapist who worked with Gramatica at the Bollettieri Sports Medicine Center at IMG Academies in Bradenton, Fla. "He was kicking 50-plus-yard field goals with me, over and over, and not many people can do that. He has that strength back now, and it's amazing ... great focus, great intensity in his workouts, and he was determined to get back to kicking as quickly as possible. He's been ready for some time."

 
Here is hoping the Patriots get this one done...

Patriots | Branch entering contract year; wants to stay

Fri, 7 Apr 2006 06:07:40 -0700

John Tomase, of the Boston Herald, reports New England Patriots WR Deion Branch is entering a contract year in 2006. He wants and expects to remain in New England beyond this season, but he'll test the market if he must. "My job is to finish my contract regardless of whether I get an extension or not," Branch said. "Coach (Bill) Belichick has given me every opportunity to excel here. This is where I want to be, and I'm pretty sure things will work out for me and for us as a unit." All of that said, Branch can envision the contract becoming more of an issue as time passes.

also

Branch hopes to remain with Pats

Quote from the end of the article...

“A guy like Richard is going to take everything,” he added with a laugh. “Hopefully when they’re done with him, there’s maybe a little something left for me.”

 
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from boston.com

Eye on the kicker

(Second in a short preview of some of the top rookie kickers eligible for the NFL draft. While the Patriots signed free agent Martin Gramatica on Thursday, they are still likely to bring a younger kicker or two to training camp.)

When Steve Gostkowski arrived on campus at Memphis as a freshman, his focus was baseball. He had a partial scholarship to pitch for the Tigers (Division 1).

“Coming in, I didn’t know if I wanted to play football,” he said this week from campus. “But I decided to walk-on to the football team, with the idea of possibly earning a full scholarship. That’s when I fell in love with football all over again.”

Gostkowski (6-0, 214) has been a two-sport athlete at Memphis since, playing baseball in the spring and football in the fall. He earned a full scholarship after his freshman football season. And while he loves baseball, he said there is no doubt where his future lies: football.

On Wednesday, he is scheduled for his fifth workout for an NFL team, when Patriots coach Brad Seely comes to town.

“In some ways it can be more nerve-wracking than a game,” he said. “I feel like the workouts have been going well, that I’ve shown a lot of leg strength.”

Gostkowski, who describes himself as having a laid-back personality, is coming off a season in which he hit 22-of-25 field goals (9-of-9 beyond 40 yards) and converted on all 35 extra points. A four-year kicker, he holds the Conference USA record for field goals, with 70.

One area that might be difficult for the Patriots to project is Gostkowski’s experience in the cold. While Gostkowski said the wind picks up at times in Memphis, the coldest temperature in which he’s kicked was around 25 degrees, in Cincinnati.

“It gets pretty cold down here, but not as cold as Boston,” he said. “I don’t have experience on a consistent basis, but not many guys do. You get used to it.”

In balancing baseball and football, Gostkowski has brought footballs on road trips this spring and works out at local football fields on the road. He believes playing two sports has helped him as a kicker, and said baseball coaches have encouraged him to kick, telling him that they understand if he misses a practice or game due to football obligations.

“So far,” Gostkowski said, “there haven’t been any conflicts.”

 
It just made me laugh...so I am posting it...Brett Farve...Priceless. :D

Brady's campaign

Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and Colts quarterback Peyton Manning paired up this offseason and hit the campaign trail. They were hoping to rally all NFL quarterbacks to support a rule change that allows QBs to use their own footballs during road games.

"We sort of helped lead the charge on getting that rule changed; we had a little petition going around," Manning told The Tennessean in Friday's editions. "Tom Brady and I kind of teamed up and got 20 quarterbacks to sign the petition; we tracked Steve (McNair) down in Mississippi.

"Everybody faxed their petition back pretty much the next day. It was pretty much a no-brainer on trying to get that changed. Because it just makes sense. You throw your footballs at home, you ought to be able to throw the footballs you want on the road as well. Nobody wants to see a receiver wide open and the ball two-hopped to him because the ball is slick."

The rule was passed and Manning joked about more campaigns in the future.

"I asked Brady, what can we get changed next?" Manning said to the Tennessean. "Brett Favre was funny. He said, 'Now you're getting the balls changed, and now I'm about to retire, that's not fair.' There was a little bonding there by the quarterbacks of the NFL, it was good to see that."

 
Bills owner Wilson questions NFL's new-guard owners

Bills owner Ralph Wilson is questioning whether the NFL's high-revenue owners have the best interest of the league at heart, stepping up concerns that small-market franchises like his face an uncertain future under the new labor agreement.

"I just don't think they're as interested in the game as the old owners, I really don't," Wilson said Friday.

Singling out Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys, Daniel Snyder of the Washington Redskins and Robert Kraft of the New England Patriots, Wilson said: "They, to me, and this is just my opinion, don't have the same values about the league as the old guard did."

 
Bills owner Wilson questions NFL's new-guard owners

Bills owner Ralph Wilson is questioning whether the NFL's high-revenue owners have the best interest of the league at heart, stepping up concerns that small-market franchises like his face an uncertain future under the new labor agreement.

"I just don't think they're as interested in the game as the old owners, I really don't," Wilson said Friday.

Singling out Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys, Daniel Snyder of the Washington Redskins and Robert Kraft of the New England Patriots, Wilson said: "They, to me, and this is just my opinion, don't have the same values about the league as the old guard did."
You're right Ralph, Bob Kraft doesn't have the same values. Which is why the Pats have won three of the last five titles, have a privately funded, state of the art stadium, have a ton of revenue streams due to fantastic business deals, have a season ticket waitlist that's ridiculously long, has made attending Patriot games far more family/fan friendly than it ever was and continues to strive for excellence in the Patriot organization. Funny, but these bad values have one franchise in an incredibly healthy situation while another is rumored to be relocated. It's 2006, not 1971 and if you don't change with the times (as is the case in any business) than you're going to fall behind and trying to scapegoat others is pretty weak.
 
Really? the 45th pick in the 2003 draft? Im not saying he doesnt belong as thats not the premise of this sub-discussion, just that he was a BIG reach. Hindsight is 20/20 but i remember not being able to find him in my draft guide. Boldin was one WR drafted after him, Burelson another.
Convenient to leave out the Cards took Bryant Johnson BEFORE Boldin & he's hardly set the world on fire. Further, Taylor Jacobs went before Bethel as well and he's totaled a Bethel-like 30 catches for 315 yards a single TD in three years.The draft is a crap shoot. All in all I think the Bill/Scott-led Pats have faired pretty well in the inexact science that is the Draft. I'd say there's been slightly more good than bad. And, more teams than not can't say the same!
Bryant's had his moments. I think he's still a FA. I'd like to see the Pats bring him in for a tryout.
 
Giants | Team visits with C. Brown

Sat, 8 Apr 2006 05:50:02 -0700

Paul Schwartz, of the New York Post, reports the New York Giants conducted a visit with free agent LB Chad Brown (Patriots) Friday, April 7. "He had a great meeting with the Giants," said Brown's agent, Peter Schaffer. "It was wonderful. All good." Schaffer said he plans on speaking with Kevin Abrams, the Giants assistant general manager, Monday, April 10, which means that's when financial terms on a possible deal will be discussed. Brown spent the first four years of his career with the Steelers and knows Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis, a former Pittsburgh assistant, quite well.



Patriots | Contract update: T. Jones

Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:14:30 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports New England Patriots S Tebucky Jones' two-year contract included a $300,000 signing bonus and workout bonuses of $31,160 in 2006 and $31,160 in 2007.

Patriots | Gramatica signed a split contract

Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:04:03 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports New England Patriots PK Martin Gramatica's one-year, $585,000 contract is a split contract. Gramatica gets paid $275,000 should he suffer an injury. The deal included a $6,160 workout bonus, but no signing bonus.

 
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Bills owner Wilson questions NFL's new-guard owners

Bills owner Ralph Wilson is questioning whether the NFL's high-revenue owners have the best interest of the league at heart, stepping up concerns that small-market franchises like his face an uncertain future under the new labor agreement.

"I just don't think they're as interested in the game as the old owners, I really don't," Wilson said Friday.

Singling out Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys, Daniel Snyder of the Washington Redskins and Robert Kraft of the New England Patriots, Wilson said: "They, to me, and this is just my opinion, don't have the same values about the league as the old guard did."
You're right Ralph, Bob Kraft doesn't have the same values. Which is why the Pats have won three of the last five titles, have a privately funded, state of the art stadium, have a ton of revenue streams due to fantastic business deals, have a season ticket waitlist that's ridiculously long, has made attending Patriot games far more family/fan friendly than it ever was and continues to strive for excellence in the Patriot organization. Funny, but these bad values have one franchise in an incredibly healthy situation while another is rumored to be relocated. It's 2006, not 1971 and if you don't change with the times (as is the case in any business) than you're going to fall behind and trying to scapegoat others is pretty weak.
Wilson is talking about what is good for the NFL and football as a whole. You are just talking about 1 team. Wilson doesn't think the new CBA will allow small market teams to survive. The old gaurd of the NFL would not allow a city that wants football (Buffalo and Cincinatti) to lose their football team.I'm not saying Wilson is right about his prediction for the small market teams under the new CBA, but I will say that Wilson has done a lot more for the NFL than Kraft has done.

 
Bills owner Wilson questions NFL's new-guard owners

Bills owner Ralph Wilson is questioning whether the NFL's high-revenue owners have the best interest of the league at heart, stepping up concerns that small-market franchises like his face an uncertain future under the new labor agreement.

"I just don't think they're as interested in the game as the old owners, I really don't," Wilson said Friday.

Singling out Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys, Daniel Snyder of the Washington Redskins and Robert Kraft of the New England Patriots, Wilson said: "They, to me, and this is just my opinion, don't have the same values about the league as the old guard did."
You're right Ralph, Bob Kraft doesn't have the same values. Which is why the Pats have won three of the last five titles, have a privately funded, state of the art stadium, have a ton of revenue streams due to fantastic business deals, have a season ticket waitlist that's ridiculously long, has made attending Patriot games far more family/fan friendly than it ever was and continues to strive for excellence in the Patriot organization. Funny, but these bad values have one franchise in an incredibly healthy situation while another is rumored to be relocated. It's 2006, not 1971 and if you don't change with the times (as is the case in any business) than you're going to fall behind and trying to scapegoat others is pretty weak.
Wilson is talking about what is good for the NFL and football as a whole. You are just talking about 1 team. Wilson doesn't think the new CBA will allow small market teams to survive. The old gaurd of the NFL would not allow a city that wants football (Buffalo and Cincinatti) to lose their football team.I'm not saying Wilson is right about his prediction for the small market teams under the new CBA, but I will say that Wilson has done a lot more for the NFL than Kraft has done.
It was a different time and place when Wilson contributed. I do agree that during his time he was a great asset. That being said the business of the NFL has changed dramatically and Wilson is resisting. What has he done recently to increase the NFL's popularity and or revenue generating? Since Kraft has entered the league he has been an incredible asset to the league because he understands business in the 21st century. As far as the old guard not allowing a city to lose a team that just isn't true as the situations in Cleveland, Baltimore and Oakland all happened under their watch.

 
Patriots | Gramatica signed a split contract

Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:04:03 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports New England Patriots PK Martin Gramatica's one-year, $585,000 contract is a split contract. Gramatica gets paid $275,000 should he suffer an injury. The deal included a $6,160 workout bonus, but no signing bonus.
In other words, if Gramatica can't kick, it's because his abs are still causing problems, which means he still gets a quarter million for trying. If he can, he gets the veteran minimum.
 
Bills owner Wilson questions NFL's new-guard owners

Bills owner Ralph Wilson is questioning whether the NFL's high-revenue owners have the best interest of the league at heart, stepping up concerns that small-market franchises like his face an uncertain future under the new labor agreement.

"I just don't think they're as interested in the game as the old owners, I really don't," Wilson said Friday.

Singling out Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys, Daniel Snyder of the Washington Redskins and Robert Kraft of the New England Patriots, Wilson said: "They, to me, and this is just my opinion, don't have the same values about the league as the old guard did."
You're right Ralph, Bob Kraft doesn't have the same values. Which is why the Pats have won three of the last five titles, have a privately funded, state of the art stadium, have a ton of revenue streams due to fantastic business deals, have a season ticket waitlist that's ridiculously long, has made attending Patriot games far more family/fan friendly than it ever was and continues to strive for excellence in the Patriot organization. Funny, but these bad values have one franchise in an incredibly healthy situation while another is rumored to be relocated. It's 2006, not 1971 and if you don't change with the times (as is the case in any business) than you're going to fall behind and trying to scapegoat others is pretty weak.
Well stated young man. Maybe the NFL oughta get some of these 90 year old owners to turn over the keys to their cars....by starting in Detroit and Buffalo. These guys are obviously going senile.
 
Patriots | Banta-Cain believes this is his year

Sun, 9 Apr 2006 10:48:20 -0700

John Tomase, of the Boston Herald, reports New England Patriots LB Tully Banta-Cain believes this is his year to show the team what he can do as a linebacker. Banta-Cain said, "It's my fourth year. I feel like I've had plenty of time to develop. This should be the year for me. This is my chance to show them what Banta-Cain is all about." He realizes he hasn't gotten a lot of time with the regular defense, but is hoping to see that change. He feels he is best suited to play outside linebacker, but would play anywhere the coaches asked of him.

 
It was a different time and place when Wilson contributed.  I do agree that during his time he was a great asset.  That being said the business of the NFL has changed dramatically and Wilson is resisting.  What has he done recently to increase the NFL's popularity and or revenue generating?  Since Kraft has entered the league he has been an incredible asset to the league because he understands business in the 21st century.

As far as the old guard not allowing a city to lose a team that just isn't true as the situations in Cleveland, Baltimore and Oakland all happened under their watch.
Was just looking at team history, league moves and name changes. The Oilers and Rams could be included in your list. History of Active NFL Teams Moving and Being RenamedBrowns

1946-1949 Cleveland Browns AAFC

1950-1995

1996 - see Ravens

1999- Cleveland Browns NFL

Cardinals

1920-1943 Chicago Cardinals NFL

1944 Card-Pitt NFL

1945-1959 Chicago Cardinals NFL

1960-1987 Saint Louis Cardinals NFL

1988-1993 Phoenix Cardinals NFL

1994- Arizona Cardinals NFL

Colts

1953-1983 Baltimore Colts NFL

1984- Indianapolis Colts NFL

Raiders

1960-1969 Oakland Raiders AFL

1970-1981 Oakland Raiders NFL

1982-1994 Los Angeles Raiders NFL

1995- Oakland Raiders NFL

Rams

1937-1942

1944-1945 Cleveland Rams NFL

1946-1994 Los Angeles Rams NFL

1995- Saint Louis Rams NFL

Ravens (see Browns and Colts)

1996- Baltimore Ravens NFL

Texans (see Titans and the Houston Oilers)

2002- Houston Texans NFL

Titans

1960-1969 Houston Oilers AFL

1970-1996 Houston Oilers NFL

1997-1998 Tennessee Oilers NFL

199- Tennessee Titans NFL

 
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