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The Redskin Offseason Thread (1 Viewer)

Sep 11 Minnesota 7:00pm

Sep 17 @Dallas 8:15pm

Sep 24 @Houston 1:00pm

Oct 1 Jacksonville 4:15pm

Oct 8 @N.Y. Giants 1:00pm

Oct 15 Tennessee 1:00pm

Oct 22 @Indianapolis 4:15pm

Week 8 BYE

Nov 5 Dallas 1:00pm

Nov 12 @Philadelphia 1:00pm

Nov 19 @Tampa Bay 1:00pm

Nov 26 Carolina 1:00pm

Dec 3 Atlanta 1:00pm

Dec 10 Philadelphia 1:00pm

Dec 17 @New Orleans 1:00pm

Dec 24 @St. Louis 1:00pm

Dec 30 N.Y. Giants 8:00pm

 
Nov 12 @Philadelphia 1:00pm

Nov 19 @Tampa Bay 1:00pm

Nov 26 Carolina 1:00pm

Dec 3 Atlanta 1:00pm

Dec 10 Philadelphia 1:00pm

Dec 17 @New Orleans 1:00pm
These are open to flexible scheduling.
 
Nov 12 @Philadelphia 1:00pm   

Nov 19 @Tampa Bay 1:00pm   

Nov 26 Carolina 1:00pm   

Dec 3 Atlanta 1:00pm   

Dec 10 Philadelphia 1:00pm   

Dec 17 @New Orleans 1:00pm         
These are open to flexible scheduling.
Flexible scheduling or not, that is a nasty string of games. The worst team of the bunch, New Orleans, even has us at home.
 
The first 5 weeks will be telling. We need to make sure we take of business against Minnesota, Texans and Jags. Going to Dallas and to NYG won't be a walk in the park. We will need to beat Dallas and/or the Giants and hope to start out at 4-1 overall and 1-1 in the conference. After that the going gets tough until we hit those last few games.

 
Remind me again. How do Joe Gibbs teams usually do in December games?

Mon., Sept. 11 (7 p.m.): Minnesota

Sun., Sept. 17 (8:15 p.m.): at Dallas

Sun., Sept. 24 (1 p.m.): at Houston

Sun., Oct. 1 (4:15 p.m.): Jacksonville

Sun., Oct. 8 (1 p.m.): at New York Giants

Sun., Oct. 15 (1 p.m.): Tennessee Titans

Sun., Oct. 22 (4:15 p.m.): at Indianapolis

Sun., Oct. 29: Bye Week

Sun., Nov. 5 (1 p.m.): Dallas Cowboys

Sun., Nov. 12 (1 p.m.): at Philadelphia

Sun., Nov. 19 (1 p.m.): at Tampa Bay

Sun., Nov. 26 (1 p.m.): Carolina Panthers

Sun., Dec. 3 (1 p.m.): Atlanta Falcons

Sun., Dec. 10 (1 p.m.): Philadelphia Eagles

Sun., Dec. 17 ( 1 p.m.): at New Orleans

Sun., Dec. 24 ( 1 p.m.): at St. Louis Rams

Sat., Dec. 30 (8 p.m.): New York Giants
The second half of the season looks tough. But I'd rather have it that way. If you beat tough teams you belong in the playoffs, and you may knock some of them out along the way. :boxing:
 
I know that Gibbs does well in December, but every team that they play from November on has legitimate playoff aspirations, with the exception IMHO of New Orleans. The next worst team is St. Louis, which figures not to be awful at worst and should challenge Seattle in the division.

I agree that a fast start is going to be very helpful, but if they can finish those last 9 games on a 6-3 clip I'll be very happy.

 
Injury recoveries: Washington Post article

Redskins Notes: Tyer said guard Randy Thomas continues to make strides in his recovery from a broken leg, but his workout plan is limited for now, lifting weights but not running. Middle linebacker Lemar Marshall also is on a limited program while recovering from a shoulder injury. Running back Clinton Portis, who had nagging wrist and neck problems through 2005, is doing well and is cleared for all action, Tyer said, and tackle Chris Samuels is progressing after suffering from knee problems throughout last season. Tyer said he expects Thomas and Marshall to be cleared for contact by minicamp in June. . . .
 
Possible replacements for Arrington: Washington Post again

Free agent linebacker Keith Adams visited Redskins Park yesterday, according to his agent, Jordan Woy , and will decide between Washington and four other teams by next week. Woy has had several conversations with Redskins officials over the last few weeks as the team searches for a weak-side linebacker to replace former Pro Bowler LaVar Arrington .

Adams, 26, was drafted in the seventh round by Tennessee in 2001, and spent the early part of his career primarily as a special teams player. He has played the past three seasons with Philadelphia, and, after filling for and eventually supplanting injured regular Mark Simoneau in 2004, started all 16 games for the Eagles last season at weak-side linebacker, logging 69 tackles and one forced fumble............

..............The Redskins are expected to use one of their top drafts pick on a linebacker, and could still re-sign free agent Warrick Holdman as well; he played in Washington last year for the veteran minimum. Khary Campbell and Chris Clemons will also be looked at for the vacant linebacker spot, as both have shown an ability to make plays in a limited role with the team in recent years. .
 
Team Update from Sportingnews.com

Kenny Wright gives the team the solid cornerback it needs as a spot starter and an exceptional nickel performer. Wright has good size, experience, toughness and durability. He has missed just two games in his seven NFL seasons and can match up with the bigger wideouts the team faces in the division, especially slot receivers in third down situations. He comes to the team after starting every game last season for Jacksonville, but he will have a difficult time moving ahead of Sean Springs and Carlos Rogers. . . .

The team might seem overloaded with defensive ends with the re-signing of Demetric Evans, but the club never thinks it is a problem to have too many good players. Evans gives the defensive line great versatility and exceptional depth. Evans is a true defensive end: tall, long arms and decent speed off the corner. But he also started three games last season at defensive tackle. He is undersized to play that position but does a good job of playing with his pad level low, then uses his leverage effectively and gets off the ball very quickly. He thrives in the team's system that offers precise coaching and intricate game plans. He is disappointed he did not get a starting job elsewhere but has the ideal temperament to be a backup, spot starter and role player. . . .

OT Jon Alston should not be discounted as a potential backup to Jon Jansen and Chris Samuels this season. Alston spent the season on the club's practice squad, which gave him a chance to get a basic understanding of the offense and the blocking schemes employed by Joe Bugel. Alston has size, potentially has the footwork Bugel values so much, works hard and takes coaching well. Bugel has a knack for developing big, raw linemen, and Alston has a chance to be another in a long line of Bugel success stories.

SCOUTING REPORT: CB Carlos Rogers should be able to establish himself as a top-level cornerback in 2006. He made substantial strides last season despite an ankle injury that slowed him early in the season and biceps injury that cost him the last three games of the season. Rogers has enough speed to recover from mistakes, is solid in man coverage and has the strength and agility to press and then run with receivers off the line. He is a good tackler and continues to improve his technique. Rogers is not at a Pro Bowl level yet, but with good health, he can be a solid No.2 corner next season and eventually become the team's No.1 cover corner.

COMEBACK STORY: WR David Patten went on injured reserve last November after arthroscopic surgery found a torn meniscus in his knee. His recovery is going fine, but that does not mean Patten will return to the starting job he held when he left last year. With the emergence of Santana Moss and the acquisitions of Antwaan Randle El and Brandon Lloyd, Patten now is, at best, the team's No.4 receiver. He never was able to perform as hoped last season. He lacked the speed and size to create separation from defenders and did not get open with any consistency. If Patten had given any indication that he was the answer at wide receiver -- he had just 22 receptions in nine games when he went on I.R. -- Randle El and Lloyd would not have been signed.
 
Sean Taylor's case postponed again

The lead prosecutor in the assault case against Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor stepped aside Wednesday after defense lawyers charged that he was using his prominence in the case to promote his moonlighting work as a nightclub disc jockey.
Interview with Taylor's attorney
My wife and I (Janice Burton Sharpstein) announced publicly that Mr. Grieco was using his web site in his work as a DJ as a commercial enterprise, using his celebrity prosecutions to help him -- chiefly Sean. He had a link to click to his press coverage that mostly took you to news articles of Sean. He was using Sean's good name promoting a case that should not have been brought from Day 1 in order to promote himself with these young girls who like to hang around him.

There was lewd and lascivious depictions of behavior (on his site). He had a 10-year-old boy rapping and swearing obscenities. A girl pictured had on a T-Shirt stating, “I ****ed the DJ and only got this lousy T-Shirt.” All around the site there were pictures of him with girls, girls with dildos and all sorts of inappropriate things.

Aside from it being horrific, unprofessional and pornographic (Grieco) as a prosecutor, he’s sworn to evaluate cases on the merits. Here, he’s using it for his own personal gain.

As you know, we’ve already had one motion (to dismiss) due to the criminal history of the people involved in this case. We’re not talking about one crime. We’re talking multiple criminal offenses. I’ve said all of them are either in jail, on their way to jail or should be in jail. Ryan Hill, one of the “victims” in the case has already hired a civil lawyer to sue Sean. He’s gone from thievery to legal thievery. He and two of the other men involved in the case were stopped on March 3 driving a pickup down U.S. 1 with a stolen ATV in the back. They said it was theirs, but it was reported as stolen.

Grieco has an obligation as the prosecutor to know these things. He says he didn’t know, but, he has a legal obligation. An uninterested, unbiased prosecutor would never prosecute this case. If Sean Taylor wasn’t the defendant, this case would have been out the window six months ago.

Let me tell you something else about Grieco. He fashions himself as the NFL prosecutor. He’s weaseled his way onto the Barrett Robbins case (Robbins is the former Oakland center who went crazy, missed the Super Bowl and had a run in with the law in Florida). When the case came open, Grieco stepped up and took it, saying he was the NFL prosecutor.

I know the state attorney will have something to say about this later.
And look at the cached version of the prosecutor's website: Amazing, Just Amazing :lmao:

Once a new prosecutor is assigned to the case, I'd bet that Taylor will be acquitted, or that charges will be dropped, or that he'll plead guilty to a misdemeanor with no jail time.

 
Hello,

I am Redskin fan and I have just discovered this board. I read through this thread today, and I was really impressed by the knowledge of your members. Several posters seemingly hit the nail on the head with thier predictions over the course of the offseason, as well as thier takes on the coaching staff.

Just giving props to the guys on this site, you really know your stuff.

 
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Warrick Holdman re-signed with the Redskins.

Link

Warrick Holdman re-signed with the Washington Redskins on Tuesday, giving the team another candidate for the starting weakside linebacker position following the departure of LaVar Arrington.

Holdman was the opening day starter last season, but he did not have much of an impact on the defense and lost the job in November after Arrington fully recovered from a knee injury. Holdman played in 14 games with seven starts and made 38 tackles.

Arrington became a free agent in March. Chris Clemons, who re-signed earlier this month, is also a contender to take the weakside spot. Coaches could also use both players regularly, with Holdman on the field for rushing downs and Clemons on passing downs.

Holdman joined the Redskins as a free agent a year ago. He previously played five seasons for Chicago and one for Cleveland.
 
More fun for the slow part of the football year: Odds on who Terrell Owens will get in the first fight with. :)

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Drew Bledsoe QB                          -400  Bill Parcells Coach                      +100  Jerry Jones Owner                        +300  Mike Vanderjagt K                        +400  Drew Henson QB                           +500  Julius Jones RB                          +600  Marion Barber RB                         +800  Terry Glenn WR                           +1000  Patrick Crayton WR                       +1200  Jason Witten TE                          +1300  Jason Fabini OT                          +1400  Marco Rivera OG                          +1500  DeMarcus Ware LB                         +1600  Aaron Glenn CB                           +1800  Roy Williams S                           +2000  Remaining Cowboy Roster Players          +200
 
More fun for the slow part of the football year: Odds on who Terrell Owens will get in the first fight with. :)

Code:
Drew Bledsoe QB                          -400  Bill Parcells Coach                      +100  Jerry Jones Owner                        +300  Mike Vanderjagt K                        +400  Drew Henson QB                           +500  Julius Jones RB                          +600  Marion Barber RB                         +800  Terry Glenn WR                           +1000  Patrick Crayton WR                       +1200  Jason Witten TE                          +1300  Jason Fabini OT                          +1400  Marco Rivera OG                          +1500  DeMarcus Ware LB                         +1600  Aaron Glenn CB                           +1800  Roy Williams S                           +2000  Remaining Cowboy Roster Players          +200
That's fan f-ing fantastic....... :lmao:
 
This is nothing speculation on my part, but I'm getting a feeling that's growing stronger by the day that the 'skins are going to package this year's 2nd and next year's 1st to move up in the 2006 Draft...

...the way I see it, this is a deep draft, and with the 'skins 1st pick being 53rd overall, they are just on the cusp of getting a quality player, but not quite in the mix. Future picks are speculative - next year's draft may be just as deep, deeper, or not, but one thing's for sure: 2006 is deep, through the mid-2nd Round. Due to the economy of impact talent being available in the late first to mid 2nd, there exists a rare opportunity to get a player potentially worth more than his rookie contract - perhaps the 'skins will take advantage of this. I think it's the smart move...

Skins primary needs:

Defense:

LB/DL - They've got plenty of serviceable role players to rotate through the front seven, but outside of Cornelius Griffin, Marcus Washington and the newly acquired Andre Carter (who is likely to play snaps at both OLB and DE), they don't have much in the way of impact players, and several will be available between Picks 17 and 48...

Defensive Secondary - Carlos Rogers is an up-and-comer. Shawn Springs is still solid, but isn't getting any younger, and they've got to start thinking future there. There remains the chance that Sean Taylor may be headed for legal trouble, and Archuleta, while undeniably talented, is somewhat of a liability in coverage, and an injury risk, to boot. I, for one, don't want to see much of Priolau, Kenny Wright or Ade Jimoh in the starting lineup. Smart teams are proactive, and once again, quality players will be avialable through Picks 17-48...

Offense:

OL - I'm positive that I'm not the only one annoyed at Casey Rabach for the ATV tomfoolery that led to him gashing the heck out of his leg. Everything I've heard about Randy Thomas' rehab has been postive, and Dockery has been adhering to a diligent offseason workout regimen. Tyson Walter and Mike Pucillo add some depth, but shouldn't be mistaken for starters. Jansen and Samuels are solid bookends, but the time is now to start planning ahead and being prepared if a starter goes down, because despite how solid the starting 5 CAN be, if one goes down, Brunell and the running game are going to have issues. There's starter quality talent to be had late first through mid second...

Local (U of MD) product D'Quell Jackson, Bobby Carpenter, DeMeco Ryans, Roger McIntosh, Thomas Howard, Abdul Hodge or Ernie Sims would be quality additions at LB.

Manny Lawson, Gabe Watson, Kamerion Wimbley, Mathias Kiwanuka, and Tamba Hali would be within reach for the D-Line.

Tye Hill, Donte Whitner, Darnell Bing, Antonio Cromartie, Ko Simpson, Ashton Youbouty, Kelly Jennings, Daniel Bullocks, Pat Watkins, Richard Marshall, Cedric Griffin and Johnathan Joseph are available additions to the secondary

Nick Mangold, Marcus McNeill, Davin Joseph, Charles Spencer, and Max Jean-Gilles would all be welcome additions in the OL mix.

All of these players will likely be gone by Pick 53, and the dropoffs behind each are pretty significant. I think it makes sense for the 'skins to make a move to land a player from that group.

 
On Defense they need an outside LB more than they need anything else by far. Carter is going to be a DE; they'll occasionally use him as a standup pass rusher in the hybrid 3-4 scheme that's becoming popular, but he's always going to be hunting the QB. In the secondary, they've spend top-10 picks on that the last two years (Taylor & Rogers), and I don't happen to think that the case against Taylor is all that strong so I'm not sure that making a move here makes sense.

They have depth on the o-line but I agree that they should look here for depth and future talent. Without trading up, I could see USC OG Latui available at 53.

Still though, I think they pick a LB to solidify that corps.

 
Redskins May Have Pick of LBs

Earlier Moves Should Overcome Lack of Draft Flexibility

By Howard Bryant

Washington Post Staff Writer

Saturday, April 22, 2006; E03

They do not have a first-round pick and have only two of the first 153 selections in next weekend's NFL draft, but because of an aggressive approach to free agency the Washington Redskins can emerge from the draft satisfied that their obvious need for an outside linebacker will be met.

According to draft experts and league observers, the Redskins find themselves in a curiously fortunate position: They may have only one relatively high pick -- they have the 21st pick in the second round, the 53rd pick overall -- but linebacker is the one position in the draft deep enough to keep the Redskins from needing to employ any drastic maneuvers on draft day.

In any normal year, the Redskins' lack of draft volume -- by contrast, the New England Patriots have six picks in the first four rounds -- would force them to be creative next weekend, perhaps in the form of trading up to secure the player they wanted. But this year, experts say, favors the Redskins and to a lesser extent validates a free agent approach that saw the Redskins make a trade for a big-play wide receiver in Brandon Lloyd, acquire a versatile game-breaking player in Antwaan Randle El, as well as sign two front-line defensive players in defensive end Andre Carter and safety Adam Archuleta.

"They were so good during free agency that they really don't need a whole lot from this draft," said Gil Brandt, an NFL draft analyst who was the Dallas Cowboys' top personnel man for nearly 30 years. "They've had a very good year, because for what they're looking for this is a full draft. They are going to find a player."

While the Redskins will look at former George Mason basketball player Jai Lewis in a workout next week and brought in Notre Dame tight end Anthony Fasano for a visit, linebacker is the key. Two players some draft experts believe the Redskins like are Thomas Howard from the University of Texas-El Paso and San Diego State inside linebacker Freddie Keiaho.

"The thing is that linebackers are now becoming the most skilled athletes on the defense," Brandt said. "Players who were running backs in high school are now being looked at in the draft as linebackers. There's an athleticism and versatility that's never been there before."

During the free agent period, the Redskins flirted with veterans Nate Wayne and Keith Adams in the wake of LaVar Arrington buying himself out of his contract to become a free agent. The biggest name on the free agent market -- San Francisco's Julian Peterson -- fetched a seven-year, $54 million contract from Seattle, a price the Redskins were not interested in for that position.

Then Wayne re-signed with Detroit, and last week Adams signed a two-year deal with Carolina. According to sources, the Redskins' reticence to pay out a sizable bonus to established if unspectacular players telegraphed two things: They have begun to adopt an organizational philosophy in which linebacker is a position where valuable players can be acquired at better cost and plan to look to the draft to replace Arrington. The re-signing of Chris Clemons and Warrick Holdman over the past two weeks seemed to confirm the strategy.

"It's a good year to be shopping in the draft," said agent David Dunn, who represents Lloyd. "Especially if you're looking for linebackers. If you look at what they like to do, there will be speed rushers there, and that will help them."

Another reason Brandt believes the Redskins are well positioned with their highest pick is assistant head coach-defense Gregg Williams, who has proven through his tutelage of middle linebacker Lemar Marshall that his ability to teach technique and discipline within a scheme can to some degree mitigate the need to trade up for a more dynamic player.

Brandt thinks a case in point is Howard, who visited the Redskins last week. Howard is considered one of the top five linebackers in the draft, a player some experts believe may be available when the Redskins draft. Brandt does not think so, but thinks he is emblematic of the type of player Williams can mold.

"He walked on to UTEP as a safety. He can run well, and he has a lot of athleticism," Brandt said. "What he doesn't have is great recognition, but Coach Williams can teach him that."

Where the Redskins are thin is on the offensive line. The retirement of Ray Brown and the broken leg suffered by right guard Randy Thomas on Dec. 18 against Dallas throws into question their long-term ability to run the football, a staple of a Joe Gibbs offense.

Because of their lack of high draft picks, the Redskins attempted to address the offensive line weeks ago with New York Jets free agent reserve Jonathan Goodwin. Goodwin visited Redskins Park and appeared to be close to a deal before signing with New Orleans.

"It was serious, and we thought there might be something happening in Washington, but there was a better fit with the Saints," said Fletcher Smith, Goodwin's agent. "He had some personal ties there, with the offensive coordinator, and it was just more comfortable."

For depth, the Redskins also signed free agent tight end Christian Fauria from New England and free agent defensive back Kenny Wright from Jacksonville.

 
They look like legitimate contenders this year to me, also, barring significant injuries, of course. The injuries that would hurt the most would be to the O-line. A couple injureis to starters on the O-line would actually hurt them more than losing Portis (because Betts is a decent starter).

The hard part will be winning enough games in the NFC East. The division appears very strong this year.

 
I love offseason threads on Redskin message boards. Like the ones awhile ago saying we should trade Patrick Ramsey for Terrell Owens. Or for Edgerrin James. :lmao:

Here is a good one from someone who obviously loves Taylor Jacobs.

hope and I am crossing my fingers that the Superior Talent Evaluators team in Redskins Park ( Joe Gibbs, Gregg Williams, Louis Riddick, Don Warren, Al Saunders, Steve Jackson, and Jerry Gray ) will seriously consider a creative and out of the box project of converting Taylor Jacobs from WR to backup SAFETY or backup CB, instead of the conservative, lazy, and narrow minded move in simply cutting him on August.

--

Here are my reasons why:

1) Taylor Jacobs has good characters. At least, we have never heard any major negative about him at all.

2) Taylor Jacobs is a good practice player and plays hard during practise.

3) Taylor Jacobs has 4.3 speed and quickness. Taylor Jacobs can match or maybe even outran Santana Moss stride for stride.

4) Taylor Jacobs has a good size 6 ft. 202 lbs.

5) By doing things out of the box and reversing the thinking pattern, Taylor Jacobs can see things from a different angle and triggers his own football smart and emerge as a dominant player be it as a DB or WR.

7) Let's stop the bleeding now.
:lmao:
 
Interesting stuff from the Washington Times

With Lloyd under contract long term, the Redskins have just two likely starters unsigned beyond this season: left guard Derrick Dockery and either Warrick Holdman or Chris Clemons at weak side linebacker. What's more, Holdman and Clemons could well wind up being replaced by the player whom Washington takes second in next Saturday's NFL draft.
 
Interesting stuff from the Washington Times

With Lloyd under contract long term, the Redskins have just two likely starters unsigned beyond this season: left guard Derrick Dockery and either Warrick Holdman or Chris Clemons at weak side linebacker. What's more, Holdman and Clemons could well wind up being replaced by the player whom Washington takes second in next Saturday's NFL draft.
NOOOO.....DEAR GOD NOOO......The Skins are going to be in such salary cap hell next year....there is no way they can keep everyone......massive purging must be done NOW....cut Portis, the entire O-line, and Sean Taylor......oh dear god there is a pestilence of locusts descending on Fed-Ex Field as we speak.......*sob*......
 
Yes, once again they will be forced by salary cap hell to start 20 rookies. :lmao:
20 are you insane!!! Haven't you been reading Peter King??? It will be 11 rookies.....they won't have enough $$ to even field a D. It will be Iron man football, with no subs, and Taylor Jacobs tripling as a WR, DB (which I hear he is built for) and Kicker.
 
Sean Taylor case on Miami-Dade County website

Seq#     Charge                   Charge Type          Disposition1  ASSAULT/AGG/FIREARM             FELONY                  NOLLE PROS2  BATTERY                         MISDEMEANOR   3  ASSAULT/AGG/DWEAP                FELONY   4  ASSAULT/AGG/DWEAP                FELONY   5  ASSAULT/AGG/DWEAP                FELONY  
:thumbup: ? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if he drew a NOLLE PROSEQUI (sp?), which basically means 'case dismissed', on the Aggravated Assault with a Firearm charge, is this not pretty much over and done with, and he's home free?

It's my understanding (and I admit I might be completely mistaken) that the only threat of a mandatory jail sentance stemmed from the Firearm charges, which have automatic jail time associated with them in Dade Co., Fla. With the battery being a misdemeanor, that just (and I say 'just' loosely) leaves the 3 Agg Assault with a Deadly Weapon charges, which I would think are a lesser offense than Agg Assault with a Firearm.

I'm in no way a legal expert, so any further commentary on this, from someone who is, would be appreciated...

 
Yes, once again they will be forced by salary cap hell to start 20 rookies.  :lmao:
20 are you insane!!! Haven't you been reading Peter King??? It will be 11 rookies.....they won't have enough $$ to even field a D. It will be Iron man football, with no subs, and Taylor Jacobs tripling as a WR, DB (which I hear he is built for) and Kicker.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :goodposting: Oh, and don't forget, the modern NFL game has passed Joe Gibbs by and he should just return to NASCAR before he "sullies his Hall of Fame legacy".

 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if he drew a NOLLE PROSEQUI (sp?), which basically means 'case dismissed', on the Aggravated Assault with a Firearm charge, is this not pretty much over and done with, and he's home free?

It's my understanding (and I admit I might be completely mistaken) that the only threat of a mandatory jail sentance stemmed from the Firearm charges, which have automatic jail time associated with them in Dade Co., Fla. With the battery being a misdemeanor, that just (and I say 'just' loosely) leaves the 3 Agg Assault with a Deadly Weapon charges, which I would think are a lesser offense than Agg Assault with a Firearm.
I'm no more of a legal expert than you are, but that's my understanding also ---- only the gun charge carried a mandatory jail sentence. Taylor was offered a plea bargain awhile ago (look back in the thread for the link) where he would plead guilty to a felony and get no jail time. He turned it down, and I believe the reason was that being convicted of a felony carried some potential NFL sanction ----- 4-game suspension or something like that?

I'm still guessing that he'll plead guilty to the misdemeanor, and the rest will be dropped; either that or the trial will go on and he'll get off completely. If they can't prove he had a gun (which would be why the Aggravated Assault/Firearm charge was dropped), what other deadly weapon are they going to prove he had? A club? A helmet?

 
20 are you insane!!! Haven't you been reading Peter King??? It will be 11 rookies.....they won't have enough $$ to even field a D. It will be Iron man football, with no subs, and Taylor Jacobs tripling as a WR, DB (which I hear he is built for) and Kicker.
:lmao: "Taylor Jacobs can see things from a different angle and triggers his own football smart and emerge as a dominant player be it as a DB or WR."

 
I love offseason threads on Redskin message boards. Like the ones awhile ago saying we should trade Patrick Ramsey for Terrell Owens. Or for Edgerrin James. :lmao:
I enjoyed the thread about which team Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders, Doug Williams, Ernest Byner, Gerald Riggs, George Rogers, and Wilber Marshall would choose entering the HOF. :lmao:

 
The more I think about it, converting Taylor Jacobs to a defensive back makes sense. Think about it ----- when he's in the game as a WR, are the defensive backs ever able to achieve separation from him? Hell no, he's stuck to them like glue. It would be the same if he's on defense.

Taylor Jacobs, shutdown corner! ;)

 
Clinton Portis interview with the Sports Junkies. Go to This Page and click "4/14 Clinton Portis".

Not very work safe. :)

He committed to the University of Miami at a strip club.

 
Brandon Lloyd contract details

Lloyd got a 7 year deal, worth a total of $29.000m including:

- base salaries of $0.500m (2006), $0.595m (2007), $0.605m (2008), $3.500m (2009), $4.000m (2010), $4.000m (2011), $4.000m (2012)

- $5m signing bonus

- $5m option bonus due in 2007 that triggers the seventh year (2012) of the contract (this bonus is protected by guaranteed salaries for 2007-2011 if not excercised)

- $1.8m roster bonus in 2008

- after being excercised, the option year of 2012 can be voided if Lloyd meets certain performance criteria

Cap hits are (excluding workout bonuses):

2006 - $1.500m (less than his RFA tender amount)

2007 - $2.428m

2008 - $4.238m

2009 - $5.333m

2010 - $5.833m

2011 - $4.833m

2012 - $4.835m

Similar in structure to the other key free agent contracts signed this offseason,
 
Did anyone catch Arrington's interview with John Thompson this afternoon? I missed it.I got this from a Redskin message board:

Someone said they spoke with Mike Sellers about Lavar going to the Giants, and Mike Sellers just laughed and replied, "I'll just knock him on his ### like I did in practice all the time"
 
Redskins unlikely to try to move up in draft; and Randy Thomas's recovery is coming along well.

Washington Post

With the NFL draft five days away, Washington Redskins Coach Joe Gibbs said yesterday that it was unlikely that the Redskins would attempt to move up from their spot in the second round.

Currently, the Redskins will not pick until the 53rd spot on the first day of the draft Saturday and, thanks to a successful free agent signing period, do not approach the draft with many obvious holes. With the loss of LaVar Arrington, the Redskins have been in the market for a linebacker, but outside of re-signing Chris Clemons and Warrick Holdman the team did not make a deal for a front-line starter at the position.

"Obviously, when you're at 53, you need to calculate who will be there," Gibbs said. "I think you could always move up, and when you get through with your final calculations you have to decide if it's smart. We've had some people talk to us about it, but it is not very likely we'll be able to do something."....................

..................During the height of the free agent signing period, Gibbs said he wanted more depth on the offensive line but was happy with the progress made by right guard Randy Thomas, who broke his leg Dec. 18 against Dallas. He said Thomas was not ready for full contact but is hitting blocking sleds
 
Did anyone catch Arrington's interview with John Thompson this afternoon? I missed it.

I got this from a Redskin message board:

Someone said they spoke with Mike Sellers about Lavar going to the Giants, and Mike Sellers just laughed and replied, "I'll just knock him on his ### like I did in practice all the time"
I missed it too. But I do remember last year LaVar laughing and joking with Sellars alot. About how he is a big monster that plows over everyone, and how he should of been a LB.I seem to remember one John Thompson Show when Coach was talking about what a beast Sellars was and LaVar was laughing about how he was one of the few LB's that could tackle him....then like a week or so later, Sellars plowed him over in practice

 
They look like legitimate contenders this year to me, also, barring significant injuries, of course. The injuries that would hurt the most would be to the O-line. A couple injureis to starters on the O-line would actually hurt them more than losing Portis (because Betts is a decent starter).

The hard part will be winning enough games in the NFC East. The division appears very strong this year.
Um, an injury to QB might also cause some problems . . . :unsure:
 
Did anyone catch Arrington's interview with John Thompson this afternoon? I missed it.

I got this from a Redskin message board:

Someone said they spoke with Mike Sellers about Lavar going to the Giants, and Mike Sellers just laughed and replied, "I'll just knock him on his ### like I did in practice all the time"
I missed it too. But I do remember last year LaVar laughing and joking with Sellars alot. About how he is a big monster that plows over everyone, and how he should of been a LB.I seem to remember one John Thompson Show when Coach was talking about what a beast Sellars was and LaVar was laughing about how he was one of the few LB's that could tackle him....then like a week or so later, Sellars plowed him over in practice
I love Sellers. The dude is all :football:
 
I listened to the whole interview yesterday, and the following is a generalization of the highlights:

While it was no doubt a bonus to be with a team in the NFC East, Levar's main concern was getting in with an organization thats an old school, historic NFL Franchise that was focused on football and winning, and not concerned about peripheral things outside of football. He spoke admiringly of the atmosphere of the NYG, making comparisons to the time he spent at Penn State, where there were only 2 things to focus on: School and Football. He made some comments about how the Giants football team was the football team and the front office was the front office, and there was a pretty high degree of separation between the two...he acknowledged that this was his last chance to impact the game of football the way he can, and was glad to be part of an organization that had a long history, and was focused only on football and winning. Pretty careful about how he phrased those comments. Didn't want to cast a negative light on the Redskins organization in that regard.

A big reason why he was interested in going to the Giants in particular was due to the presence of Defensive Coordinator Tim Lewis, who had spent time on the Steelers Coaching Staff. Levar grew up near Pittsburgh and has been a fan of the Steelers since a kid, and has continued to follow the team as a fan throughout his life. He spoke of a pedigree of coaches who followed the Steelers defensive philosophy, and that Tim Lewis was a direct disciple of that approach which he admires. I believe that his emphasis here was on Lewis looking at the individual strengths of each of his players, and crafting a scheme based on the strengths of the individuals, rather than crafting a scheme and trying to put square pegs in round holes, as it were. The only potentially incendiary comment in that portion of the interview had to do with the personnel on the NYG defense, and he prefaced it by repeatedly saying that he wasn't criticizing any of his former teammates, but that with Strahan and Osi, the NYG D-Line had no trouble putting pressure on the QB without needing much additional help from the rest of the defense, and that would allow the other players to play to their own strengths...this leads me to believe that Lewis will allow him to wreak havoc like he did his first three years in the League.

About #56: Despite the # being off limits in NY due to Lawrence Taylor's storied career, no matter where he went, he would have changed his # anyway, because that was part of his identity in Washington, and the Levar that the fans and teammates knew and supported him in DC should be left with that memory of him with the Redskins. His new is #55, to which he made the reference of the phrase 'getting hit by a sack of nickels', as in 5-5 = 'double nickels'...

A question was posed to him regarding his health, and the persistant rumors around DC that he's got health issues, etc. He replied that he was in perfect health, and getting in condition, and if anyone in Washington had doubts about that, well, they'd be seeing him twice next year, and he'd be showing them how healthy he is. He got a bit emotional at times, and talked about his time at Penn State a bit, and how he longed for a return to that focus on football.

Overall, he had nothing negative or derogatory to say about the Redskins, which is in accordance to his upbringing and character. Not that they were trying to drag it out of him, but he did a nice job of navigating the interview, and overall handled the questions posed to him well with poise and character. Well done.

That's as much as I can remember to the best of my ability.

Now, I'm a huge fan of Levar (it's the nittanylion in me), and as deep as my lifelong trueblood fanhood of the Redskins runs, I take his side over the Redskins any day, especially this Daniel Snyder era ballclub. I'm glad he signed with a Division rival, and especially glad that it was the Giants, who I have a great deal of respect for, and not either Dallas (who I respect but can't stand) or the Eagles (who I neither respect nor can stand). As much havoc as he's going to wreak vs the Redskins, he'll be doing the same vs the Cowboys and Eagles, and I relish that.

Although I'd never root for the Giants, I will root for Levar when he plays vs the Redskins, and barring hurting someone, I hope like hell he does show up Snyder, Greg Williams and Dale Lindsey. As a matter of fact, nothing would make me happier than seeing him have career days vs the 'skins (in a Giants loss, of course), and enjoying a season of 'return to pro bowl form' and having the local media pepper the Redskins staff all year about the whole situation. Just my biased opinion, but Levar should have been a Redskin For Life and a fixture in the DC area long after his career was over. I view this entire situation as just another black mark on the Snyder Era of the franchise; that he'll continue his career, and I hope it's a glorious one, with, of all things, a Division rival in the Big Apple.

 
About #56: Despite the # being off limits in NY due to Lawrence Taylor's storied career, no matter where he went, he would have changed his # anyway, because that was part of his identity in Washington, and the Levar that the fans and teammates knew and supported him in DC should be left with that memory of him with the Redskins. His new is #55, to which he made the reference of the phrase 'getting hit by a sack of nickels', as in 5-5 = 'double nickels'...

that's hilarious.....i love that.

 
I view this entire situation as just another black mark on the Snyder Era of the franchise; that he'll continue his career, and I hope it's a glorious one, with, of all things, a Division rival in the Big Apple.
And yet it was Joe Gibbs' decision on the 'Skins side to let him go. Why are you as a 'Skins fan perpetuating the myth about Snyder running things? :confused:
 
About #56: Despite the # being off limits in NY due to Lawrence Taylor's storied career, no matter where he went, he would have changed his # anyway, because that was part of his identity in Washington, and the Levar that the fans and teammates knew and supported him in DC should be left with that memory of him with the Redskins. His new is #55, to which he made the reference of the phrase 'getting hit by a sack of nickels', as in 5-5 = 'double nickels'...
My main problem with Lavar was that he always thought too highly of himself. In an interview with NY media yesterday, he talked about his jersey number. He said he wouldn't wear 56 (as if he had a choice) and that the only way he'd wear it is if LT himself asked him to wear it. What? Does he really think that's even a remote possibility? He's lightyears away from LT status and he's commenting on LT asking Lavar to wear 56? Ugh.I liked him. He made some plays. But, he's always thought too highly of himself. Part of that may have been Snyder, media, and fans puffing him up. From what I hear, the coaches were never puffing him up too much.

 
I view this entire situation as just another black mark on the Snyder Era of the franchise; that he'll continue his career, and I hope it's a glorious one, with, of all things, a Division rival in the Big Apple.
In your opinion what are the black marks of the Snyder Era??? Honestly I've never had much of a problem with Snyder, yeah he did some silly #### at first, trying to buy a quick Super Bowl, coaching changes and such, but he seems to have his head on straight, and even during that time of swapping coaches like kleenex, he has always seemed to have this fire of winning a championship under him.

I know he has raised prices, but he puts it right back into the team, I love the "Salary Cap Hell" talk that comes up every year, because it shows me that he will spend ever dime possible to make this team better.

He brought back Joe Gibbs, Hired Gregg Williams (who has been incredible), picked up Al Saunders.....I just don't understand how he is running this franchise into the ground.
 
Yes, once again they will be forced by salary cap hell to start 20 rookies.  :lmao:
20 are you insane!!! Haven't you been reading Peter King??? It will be 11 rookies.....they won't have enough $$ to even field a D. It will be Iron man football, with no subs, and Taylor Jacobs tripling as a WR, DB (which I hear he is built for) and Kicker.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :goodposting: Oh, and don't forget, the modern NFL game has passed Joe Gibbs by and he should just return to NASCAR before he "sullies his Hall of Fame legacy".
Tayklor Jacobs as a DB or K, possibly; but as a WR :no:
 
In your opinion what are the black marks of the Snyder Era??? Honestly I've never had much of a problem with Snyder, yeah he did some silly #### at first, trying to buy a quick Super Bowl, coaching changes and such, but he seems to have his head on straight, and even during that time of swapping coaches like kleenex, he has always seemed to have this fire of winning a championship under him.

I know he has raised prices, but he puts it right back into the team, I love the "Salary Cap Hell" talk that comes up every year, because it shows me that he will spend ever dime possible to make this team better.

He brought back Joe Gibbs, Hired Gregg Williams (who has been incredible), picked up Al Saunders.....I just don't understand how he is running this franchise into the ground.
I don't really have a problem with Snyder's spending spree in 2000. His two mistakes that year were signing Jeff George (the other FAs were fine, IMO) and firing Turner at 7-6 and still in a playoff spot.
 
I try to pause and take of my burgundy and gold glasses at times, because they might be affecting my perspective...

As much as I love the Redskins, It's not a 'Washington Redskins, right or wrong' kind of love. Most of my 38 years, since I reached a level of consciousness, I've been a diehard 'skins fan, and I firmly believe that this Snyder Era marks one of the most humiliating and embarrasing runs in franchise history, that has only recently taken a positive turn - 100% thanks to Joe Gibbs, and absolutely nothing to do with any great change on the part of Daniel Snyder. It's a far cry from the organization I fell in love with under the reign of 'The Squire'. To understand my opinions, you have to know from where I draw them. I had the good fortune to begin my fandom at the age of about 6, in 1974. I went through some pretty lean years through the 70's, and heard about leaner ones from my Dad and his friends, who we attended the games with, all of whom had season tickets since 1937 and had seen it all, from Edward Bennett Williams and Griffith Stadium forward. I had the ultimate good fortune of witnessing the hiring of one Joe Gibbs by Jack Kent Cooke, and watching the Organization transform itself during that reign into one of the best, and classiest organizations in the NFL, respected across the League. The Squire and Gibbs, during that first run, always took care of business on the field, and always played to the most important part of the fan base, the blue collar fan, day in, day out. This entire organization, under Daniel Snyder, has regressed in many ways, from what it was when Cooke and Gibbs ran the show through the 80's.

As for Snyder and his influence on the decisions the Redskins make, I have only this to base my opinion: I grew up about 5 miles away from Daniel Snyder, and went to a rival High School during roughly the same time as him. I've continued to live here to this day. (Rockville, MD), where I'm heavily involved in the business, political and residential community. Since he took the team over, and started all this foolishness that's contributed to the demise of my once-proud franchise that I continue to support, I have made plenty of effort to contact folks I know from that era, and contact others through them, all of whom either went to school with him, knew him then, and/or continue to know him personally, as well as members of the administration, team and coaching staff to get an insight on this fellow. Rather than form a biased, uneducated opinion of him, I have taken it upon myself to educate myself about him, as I just can't bear someone that much ill will without at least basing it on some sound reasearch. Based on what I've learned about Daniel Snyder the individual, HE WAS A TOOL THEN, AND HE'S A TOOL NOW!!!Make no mistake, he has his fingers in every decision that the organization makes, including those made by legendary and loveable icon Coach Joe Gibbs (all honor to his name). Now, that's not necessarily wrong; after all, he's the Owner. It's just since the time he came on board, he's rubbed plenty of respected people within the organization the wrong way, and handled many personal relationship issues with people horribly, and right from the start of his Ownership regime, he made some absolutely atrocious decisions no Owner who claims to have been a fan of the team since childhood would make, both related to personnel, and in his business dealings with the fan base. No one who has followed the team with any honest clarity in the past 10 years can deny that up until the hiring of Gibbs, the franchise was viewed as a laughingstock across the League, and rightly so. I'm a VERY proud fan, and that infuriated me, and still does. I'm happy to say that I'm not the only one who doesn't care for him, among those circles. As a matter of fact, I'm finding myself in some pretty good company!!!

It may appear that he's starting to 'get it', but I think this is almost entirely due to Gibbs' presence, more than any actual 'moment of enlightenment' on his part, so I continue to hold him accountable. He's still far from a 'Man Of The People', however, which I view as one of his biggest faults. I will expand on that later when I have more time, but suffice it to say, in my opinion, he has thrown the true, blue collar fan under the bus since he took over the franchise. Time after time, he continues to stick it to the folks who are probably the most passionate members of the fan base. The one's who now can't afford to go to the games, and spend their money in the sports bars surrounding the Capital Beltway every weekend during football season. Those who's butts should be in seats cheering the team on in person, instead of the 'see and be seen' festival that thinks it's a football game, that only recently changed when they went on that mini-run at the end of last year. The kind of fans that wouldn't be caught dead in a cigar lounge watching the game on TV while AT THE STADIUM, or remain in the beer courts in the concourse trying to get laid well into the 4th quarter, rather than screaming their lungs out and making life hell on the other team's QB. Thanks to Daniel Snyder, that's exactly what the once feared most devastating homefield advantage in the NFL has become. I know, because I was there when in it's heyday, I'm still there now, and it ain't a shadow of what it once was. Congratulations, Chiefs!!! Wear your crown well!!!

This whole Arrington situation is, at it's core, a direct result of the relationship forged between 'then rookie owner' Daniel Snyder and 'then rookie player' Levar Arrington from the moment he was drafted by the Redskins. It wasn't a healthy relationship, for the good of the team, from the start. An Owner and an active player can NEVER have a relationship like Snyder strove to forge between them, without it affecting the team in a negative way. The blame for that lies entirely with Snyder. Lines have to be drawn and there has to be some degree of separation between Ownership and active players. It was a relationship that was in place well before the return of Gibbs, and which, over time, began to deteriorate publicly to the detriment of all parties involved, until it was something that couldn't be ignored or pushed under the rug. Lately, it had the potential to negatively impact the teams' focus and, with it, some chance for progressive success leading ultimately to a Super Bowl.

Of course it was Gibbs' decision to let him go! From a certain perspective, although risky, it was a wise one, that only a Coach of Gibbs caliber could have the sack to make. Gibbs knows as well as anyone how fleeting is the chance to win a Super Bowl, and what kind of sacrifices must be made to achieve that goal. Given the situation, it was, sadly the only correct thing to do. He did the only thing he could to ensure that the current team had the best chance it could to take advantage of a legitimate opportunity for success. Eliminate the problem, re-establish the focus, and move forward.

'Gibbs decision', God bless him, was absolutely a logical and necessary thing to do for the Good Of The Redskins for one reason, and one reason alone: The whole soap opera drama that this thing became was a Grade A # 1 Prime Quality DISTRACTION. It consumed the Fan Base, the Media, Ownership, Management, Coaches, and Players. This team is close, real close, to winning the ultimate prize, and it's window of opportunity is relatively small. They need to focus every possible part of themselves on that goal. The best way to put the kibosh on a distraction is to remove it, and press on. Gibbs is legendary for keeping his teams focused on the ultimate goal. No player or the situation surrounding that player, no matter how good (or bad) of a player, or person, he is, can be bigger than the team or distract it from it's goals, especially when it's ultimate goal, a Championship, is a legitimate possibility.

Are they a better team without LeVar the player? I'd say yes, and no, depending on the perspective. From a personnel standpoint, I'd say 'no'. There are going to be plenty of folks eating crow this season regarding his talent as a player. Outside of maybe Sean Taylor and Marcus Washington, there isn't a player on the defense that has even close to the individual talent and game-changing ability Arrington possesses.

I can't get over how obtuse some of the blinded Redskins fans I encounter are, in regards to this. On plenty of occaisions during practice weeks and pregame warmups this season, when coaches and players were made aware of the fact that they might not have to deal with Levar playing all the snaps on defense, they were absolutely shocked, suprised and positively exuberant! What part of that don't people understand?

The Giants will gladly take the plays he occaisionally 'misses' on in return for the absolute terror he has the ability to strike in opposing offenses. When healthy playing his game, he is one of the few defensive atheletes these days that actually has to be 'game planned' for. The man is a weapon, a beast, who has to be accounted for when he's on the field. One early devastating play by a quality defender like this can effect the mindset of an offensive coordinator and a quarterback for the rest of the game.

I'm going to GUARANTEE that, if healthy, Levar's presence on the Giants is going to bring the 'Big Blue Wrecking Crew' moniker back to that defense. Get ready for some good times, Giants fans. I envy you for that.

Are they a more focused team with a better chance to win a Super Bowl without the distractions the 'Levar situation' brings to the table? I'd say, undoubtably, 'yes'...

 

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