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From the Post-Gazette:

Retired halfback Jerome Bettis, in California today, was keeping in touch with some people in the organization and said the reports he's received are that Roethlisberger will be fine.

"First, it's good to see he's not in bad shape, as a friend, and to make sure he's OK," said Bettis. "Another good thing is it is minor enough that it shouldn't affect him on the field this fall."

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/06163/697655-66.stm
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I assume Bettis has pretty fair connections.
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I'd feel better if I heard that from a Dr.
 
Here's the lastest on Big Ben.

It does not look good, but he is alive.

Latest on Big Ben.

"Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground, police said."
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link didn't work for me, any confirmation on this?
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Worked for me. First I heard of any knee injuries. That wouldn't be good for Ben's career.
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Me too - the knees are a concern, and I'm wondering why nothing had been said about that prior to now. Hopefully they're superficial wounds and not torn ligaments or anything that jeopardize his livelihood.
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Everything we know is very vague except for the following:1) he appears to have fractured a bone or bones in his face, potentially including his jaw and/or bones around one eye; and

2) He has other injuries to his head including lacerations and perhaps broken teeth;

3) he likely has a concussion but did not appear to lose consciousness.

If indeed his knees are injured, that can mean anything from scrapes and bruises to broken bones or torn ligaments. Impossible to tell at this point.
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What part about "severely injured both of his knees " do you get scrapes and bruises from?
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Let's wait for the doctor to comment on knees, not some cop.
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I agree with you, the word from the doctor will be the most educated. I still fail to see how a cop would call scrapes and bruises a severe injury though, IMO.
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he could have turned to the officer and said, "Hey Cop...my knees are killing me!"
 
My friend who writes for the Pittsburgh Post Gazette told me that right now Ben is out of surgery and everything looks like it's stable. Not completely out of the woods, but everything is looking pretty good all things considered.

He also said that aside from one cop, no one he's aware of has made any reference to anything but scrapes and a cuts on his knees.

 
Here is an even more depressing thought:

The NFL season opener will probably feature 2 former Detroit Lion QBs: Joey Harrington vs Charlie Batch.

That will draw the ratings....

 
I have buddy who works at the Hospital. He just texted me a message from the OR saying Ben may be blind in one eye. He is one of those crasy guys we all have in our leagues.

 
My friend who writes for the Pittsburgh Post Gazette told me that right now Ben is out of surgery and everything looks like it's stable. Not completely out of the woods, but everything is looking pretty good all things considered.

He also said that aside from one cop, no one he's aware of has made any reference to anything but scrapes and a cuts on his knees.
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That cop is probably trying to get Ben away from another owner in his fantasy league.
 
The state of New Hampshire does not require helmets - and if you drive thru there, half the riders really don't wear them. Does PA not have a law either?
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PA used to have a helmet law but they got rid of it a few years back.
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Yeah, that was a brilliant decision by our legislators.
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Not to hijack, but I agree with that decision. If you don't want to wear a helmet while riding your motorcycle then you shouldn't have to. Yes it's dangerous, but do we really need the government to legislate everything?
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How is a helmet law different from requiring you to wear your seatbelt?
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As long as you don't have a problem paying for ambulances, ER, ICU, post op medical care, physical therapy, and don't coeelct any disability I don't have a problem with you not wearing a helmet.
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other forum please thank you
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It is not reasonable, IMO, to have a thread about a player who suffered head injuries while riding a motorcycle without a helmet, and ask people not to comment on the fact that he suffered head injuries while riding a motorcycle without a helmet.
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:wall: well, none of us give a tiny rat's behind what you think about helmet laws. He was not wearing a helmet that is a fact. Helmet laws can be debated in the other forum. If that is an issue with you please PM all the mods and have them explain the forums to you.

Thanks for playing, now move along.

 
Would love to see a spin off thread by any EMT's, doctors, nurses, or other medical personel discussing the medical possibilities here. The speculation is interesting, many posters here have a wealth of knowledge and interesting insight, but input from the medicos would be helpful at this point.
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All speculation mind you, and most of this has been mentioned in other posts.Trauma surgeons speak of the "critical first hour" in cases of major trauma - and I think this qualifies. Head injuries and internal injuries (chest, abdomen) in blunt force trauma and acceleration/deceleration scenarios, as this was, are paramount.

The fact that Ben was speaking coherently and moving all extremities is reassuring from a medical standpoint but is far from definitive. He almost certainly had Xrays inmmediately and a CT scan of his head/chest/abdomen very shortly thereafter (once his breathing and blood volume were deemed to be stable) to rule out serious internal injuries (bleeding within the brain, lacerations to major organs) that may not have been evident on the primary survey.

Also, it is entirely possible (esp with head injuries) that there is a delay in manifestation of blood loss from a major injury. But, again, that first hour of stabilization and treatment is the most important.

With regard to the injuries confirmed so far...

Facial injuries - the jaw injury has been covered for the most part. The plastic surgeon was almost certainly requested for the facial fractures. Not all facial injuries needed immediate surgical intervention, but those that involve significant displacement of bony fragments or may need removal or debridement of those fragments need to be stabilized. It certainly sounds like (broken/missing teeth, jaw injury, sinus fracture) that one side of Ben's facial took heavy damage from the initial impact.

Concussion - Again, it seems likely that Ben had a fairly significant concussion, but that his mental status was reassuring. Based on the comments so far, it also sounds like an initial CT scan was reassuring against major intracranial injury. As mentioned above, though, these injuries are very much an evolving situation. It isn't unusual for a patient with a significant head injury to take a sudden turn over a 4-6 hour period. He'll be monitored closely overnight, but no mention of intracranial bruising or bleeding is a good sign so far.

Knee injuries - will have to wait to hear on this one.

Again, all speculation, and it's way too early to speculate on specific injuries.

 
I really hope that Roethlisberger escaped serious damage to his head/brain/balance centers (inner ear)/visual centers (eyes, retina, etc.). Anytime you suffer a head injury it is potentially serious, and even a low-speed motor-vehicle accident generates a tremendous amount of force that can tear up the human body in a big way. His balance, vision and co-ordination are all in jeopardy due to this accident.

There is a lot to worry about in this situation - we won't have a good read on Roethlisberger's actual prognosis for several days, I would guess. The long-term consequences could vary from minimal to dire.

Awful news from any angle.

 
Anyone think that this will cause the Steelers to sign Collins? Or  are they going to count on the powerful one-two of Batch and Maddox?
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They cut Maddox a while back.
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thought so. He's still listed on NFL.com. Man, good job on being up to date, official web site of the league. So it's just Batch back there or did they get someone else in there (sorry, not a Steeler fan)
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He's right below Hanratty.
 
Hadn't read this before now.

Sandra Ford, a Homewood writer and artist, was waiting for the bus on 10th Street about 11 a.m. She saw a rugged-looking white man with curly hair on his motorcycle driving along the avenue heading toward the 10th street bridge.In the opposite direction, the Chrysler was approaching and preparing to make the turn."I kept waiting for the motorcyclist to slow down," she said. "He never stopped and just plowed into the car."She said she believes Roethlisberger, who wasn't speeding, but going at a pretty good clip, never saw the car. "He had to be looking somewhere else, he just sailed across the intersection."It was a crazy scene, said Ford, still shaken from the accident two hours after it happened. At the time of the accident, she did not know it was the Steeler's quarterback. She found out when she got home and saw the TV news.
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Maybe it wasn't the woman's fault after all.
 
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The state of New Hampshire does not require helmets - and if you drive thru there, half the riders really don't wear them.  Does PA not have a law either?
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PA used to have a helmet law but they got rid of it a few years back.
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Yeah, that was a brilliant decision by our legislators.
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Not to hijack, but I agree with that decision. If you don't want to wear a helmet while riding your motorcycle then you shouldn't have to. Yes it's dangerous, but do we really need the government to legislate everything?
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How is a helmet law different from requiring you to wear your seatbelt?
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As long as you don't have a problem paying for ambulances, ER, ICU, post op medical care, physical therapy, and don't coeelct any disability I don't have a problem with you not wearing a helmet.
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other forum please thank you
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It is not reasonable, IMO, to have a thread about a player who suffered head injuries while riding a motorcycle without a helmet, and ask people not to comment on the fact that he suffered head injuries while riding a motorcycle without a helmet.
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:wall: well, none of us give a tiny rat's behind what you think about helmet laws. He was not wearing a helmet that is a fact. Helmet laws can be debated in the other forum. If that is an issue with you please PM all the mods and have them explain the forums to you.

Thanks for playing, now move along.
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The message board vigilante rides again.
 
Here is an even more depressing thought:

The NFL season opener will probably feature 2 former Detroit Lion QBs: Joey Harrington vs Charlie Batch.

That will draw the ratings....
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:D As a Lions fan who went to school with Charlie, I'm all over that. :popcorn:

 
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Nope
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:no: 349 now.
 
From the Post-Gazette:

Retired halfback Jerome Bettis, in California today, was keeping in touch with some people in the organization and said the reports he's received are that Roethlisberger will be fine.

"First, it's good to see he's not in bad shape, as a friend, and to make sure he's OK," said Bettis. "Another good thing is it is minor enough that it shouldn't affect him on the field this fall."

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I assume Bettis has pretty fair connections.
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I'd feel better if I heard that from a Dr.
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Bettis is omniscient. Don't forget that.Plus, I just consulted the Magic 8-ball, my Ouija board, and made one of those origami paper fortune tellers and all 3 said he'd be on the field as early as August.

 
From the Post-Gazette:

Retired halfback Jerome Bettis, in California today, was keeping in touch with some people in the organization and said the reports he's received are that Roethlisberger will be fine.

"First, it's good to see he's not in bad shape, as a friend, and to make sure he's OK," said Bettis. "Another good thing is it is minor enough that it shouldn't affect him on the field this fall."

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I'd feel better if I heard that from a Dr.
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Bettis is omniscient. Don't forget that.Plus, I just consulted the Magic 8-ball, my Ouija board, and made one of those origami paper fortune tellers and all 3 said he'd be on the field as early as August.
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Besides, I think Bettis did stay at a Holiday Inn express last night.
 
In regard to having serious head trauma and being able to communicate:

When I was 14, I was in a serious car accident where, from the backseat, I hit the windshield. (A car hit us from behind and we then hit a tree. A *big* tree.)

Years later, when I joined the military, I had to get records from the accident for the recruiter.

I was amazed when I saw that I'd been coherent, able to walk with no problems, etc.

I was amazed because I was in a coma for 6 days and (still) have no memory of anything that happened from 2 miles from where the accident occured until 6 1/2 days later.

I had a fractured skull, a fractured jaw and some (thankfully, minor) paralysis.

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I'm just saying that it doesn't matter, now, if Ben was able to communicate as you JUST DON'T KNOW with head trauma.

 
I must admit that the Steelers are my least favorite sports franchise of all time, but that doesn't seem inportant today. I wish Ben a complete and speedy recovery. My prayers will certainly be with the young man and his family. I hope that he is healthy when the season begins and has a breakout season for the Steelers.

 
The information being leaked is similar to the stuff that was coming out after Jason Williams (PG Bulls/Duke) crashed his bike. I think BR may be down for the count.

 
A serious situation of course, but still couldn't help but laugh at this one...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl...tball-headlines

Several teammates, including backup quarterback Charlie Batch, linebacker Joey Porter and safety Mike Logan, arrived at the hospital emergency room but did not comment.

Some fans also gathered at the hospital, including Juanita Clark, who sells Steelers' paraphernalia, and her daughter.
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My wife's reaction: "If she admits to selling her daughter, shouldn't she be in jail?"
 
Would love to see a spin off thread by any EMT's, doctors, nurses, or other medical personel discussing the medical possibilities here.  The speculation is interesting, many posters here have a wealth of knowledge and interesting insight, but input from the medicos would be helpful at this point.
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All speculation mind you, and most of this has been mentioned in other posts.Trauma surgeons speak of the "critical first hour" in cases of major trauma - and I think this qualifies. Head injuries and internal injuries (chest, abdomen) in blunt force trauma and acceleration/deceleration scenarios, as this was, are paramount.

The fact that Ben was speaking coherently and moving all extremities is reassuring from a medical standpoint but is far from definitive. He almost certainly had Xrays inmmediately and a CT scan of his head/chest/abdomen very shortly thereafter (once his breathing and blood volume were deemed to be stable) to rule out serious internal injuries (bleeding within the brain, lacerations to major organs) that may not have been evident on the primary survey.

Also, it is entirely possible (esp with head injuries) that there is a delay in manifestation of blood loss from a major injury. But, again, that first hour of stabilization and treatment is the most important.

With regard to the injuries confirmed so far...

Facial injuries - the jaw injury has been covered for the most part. The plastic surgeon was almost certainly requested for the facial fractures. Not all facial injuries needed immediate surgical intervention, but those that involve significant displacement of bony fragments or may need removal or debridement of those fragments need to be stabilized. It certainly sounds like (broken/missing teeth, jaw injury, sinus fracture) that one side of Ben's facial took heavy damage from the initial impact.

Concussion - Again, it seems likely that Ben had a fairly significant concussion, but that his mental status was reassuring. Based on the comments so far, it also sounds like an initial CT scan was reassuring against major intracranial injury. As mentioned above, though, these injuries are very much an evolving situation. It isn't unusual for a patient with a significant head injury to take a sudden turn over a 4-6 hour period. He'll be monitored closely overnight, but no mention of intracranial bruising or bleeding is a good sign so far.

Knee injuries - will have to wait to hear on this one.

Again, all speculation, and it's way too early to speculate on specific injuries.
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:thumbup: Thanks Doc.J

 
Hadn't read this before now.

Sandra Ford, a Homewood writer and artist, was waiting for the bus on 10th Street about 11 a.m. She saw a rugged-looking white man with curly hair on his motorcycle driving along the avenue heading toward the 10th street bridge.

In the opposite direction, the Chrysler was approaching and preparing to make the turn.

"I kept waiting for the motorcyclist to slow down," she said. "He never stopped and just plowed into the car."

She said she believes Roethlisberger, who wasn't speeding, but going at a pretty good clip, never saw the car. "He had to be looking somewhere else, he just sailed across the intersection."

It was a crazy scene, said Ford, still shaken from the accident two hours after it happened. At the time of the accident, she did not know it was the Steeler's quarterback. She found out when she got home and saw the TV news.
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Maybe it wasn't the woman's fault after all.
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If that's how it happened it definitely is the womans fault. She turned into his right of way.
 
Hadn't read this before now.

Sandra Ford, a Homewood writer and artist, was waiting for the bus on 10th Street about 11 a.m. She saw a rugged-looking white man with curly hair on his motorcycle driving along the avenue heading toward the 10th street bridge.

In the opposite direction, the Chrysler was approaching and preparing to make the turn.

"I kept waiting for the motorcyclist to slow down," she said. "He never stopped and just plowed into the car."

She said she believes Roethlisberger, who wasn't speeding, but going at a pretty good clip, never saw the car. "He had to be looking somewhere else, he just sailed across the intersection."

It was a crazy scene, said Ford, still shaken from the accident two hours after it happened. At the time of the accident, she did not know it was the Steeler's quarterback. She found out when she got home and saw the TV news.
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Maybe it wasn't the woman's fault after all.
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If that's how it happened it definitely is the womans fault. She turned into his right of way.
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It is ALWAYS the woman's fault. :rant:
 
I am assuming the eye injury is pure speculation at this point - yes?

i would be remiss if I did not mention that I hope for a speedy recovery for BR. I hope somewhere somebody hears of this accident and decides to wear a helmet!

 
Has this been posted yet? Dont want to scroll through 10 pages.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has detailed the severity of Ben Roethlisberger's injuries.

"Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground," police said. A plastic surgeon has been summoned. ESPN's John Clayton surprisingly put a timeline on the injury already, projecting Roethlisberger needing 7-8 weeks of "downtime to recuperate" and only "some" knee damage. That timeline would have Roethlisberger back before the end of training camp.

 
Whoa. Who did you piss off, Pittsburgh? Bad karma is just killing you today.

BREAKING NEWS: A Pittsburgh International Airport spokesperson tells KDKA that a plane headed into the airport has total hydraulic failure. Details to follow.
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It's even worse. That's the plastic surgeon's plane.
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I think Hollywood is calling with a new pilot for a show called "My Name is Ben".
 
In regard to having serious head trauma and being able to communicate:

When I was 14, I was in a serious car accident where, from the backseat, I hit the windshield. (A car hit us from behind and we then hit a tree. A *big* tree.)

Years later, when I joined the military, I had to get records from the accident for the recruiter.

I was amazed when I saw that I'd been coherent, able to walk with no problems, etc.

I was amazed because I was in a coma for 6 days and (still) have no memory of anything that happened from 2 miles from where the accident occured until 6 1/2 days later.

I had a fractured skull, a fractured jaw and some (thankfully, minor) paralysis.

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I'm just saying that it doesn't matter, now, if Ben was able to communicate as you JUST DON'T KNOW with head trauma.
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Buddy of mine lost his sister last year.Mororcycle accident on 6/17/05

Completely conscious and speaking after accident (helmet on)

Extreme swelling in brain caused doctors to put in coma

1 1/2 weeks later came out of coma for maybe 2 hours

Brain swelling sky-rocketed

Passed away 6/30/05

Hope nothing but the best for Ben, but being conscious and speaking at the scene...means absolutely nothing.

E

 
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While I realize everyone wants to know right now what's going on so they can run to the waiver wire and make a move, please, let's not forget what's really going on here. A man has had a serious accident.

My prayers and thoughts are for his well being right now. The waiver wire can wait. It's times like this that fantasy football just doesn't seem important. It's times like this when rivalries don't seem important. It's times like this when waiver wires don't seem important. It's times like this that remind us of what's reallt important.

The only thing that seems really important right now is that Ben is going to be alright, I hope. I'm not busting anyone's chops over this but I hope while everyone makes their moves that they think about Ben and remember he's a real man with serious injuries. He's not feeling much like fantasy right now. And I hope we're all better than just worrying about fantasy football.

 
POSTED 4:25 p.m. EDT, June 12, 2006

CONFLICTING REPORTS ON ROETHLISBERGER

There are conflicting reports from Pittsburgh's two leading papers regarding the severity of the injuries suffered by quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in Monday morning's motorcycle accident.

The Tribune-Review reports that Big Ben has, among other things, two serious knee injuries. The Post-Gazette reports that the team is "encouraged" by reports from Mercy Hospital, and former teammate Jerome Bettis said that he's been told that Ben will be fine.

A league source told us earlier that Roethlisberger did not have serious injuries, beyond a broken jaw. The source has since told us that he has not been able to confirm reports that Ben has two serious knee injuries.

Stay tuned.
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Did John Clayton attend medical school? Does anyone else wish the talking heads would shut their collective pie holes until some definitive word is spoken by someone in the know?

 
While I realize everyone wants to know right now what's going on so they can run to the waiver wire and make a move, please, let's not forget what's really going on here. A man has had a serious accident.

My prayers and thoughts are for his well being right now. The waiver wire can wait. It's times like this that fantasy football just doesn't seem important. It's times like this when rivalries don't seem important. It's times like this when waiver wires don't seem important. It's times like this that remind us of what's reallt important.

The only thing that seems really important right now is that Ben is going to be alright, I hope. I'm not busting anyone's chops over this but I hope while everyone makes their moves that they think about Ben and remember he's a real man with serious injuries. He's not feeling much like fantasy right now. And I hope we're all better than just worrying about fantasy football.
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:lmao:
 
While I realize everyone wants to know right now what's going on so they can run to the waiver wire and make a move, please, let's not forget what's really going on here. A man has had a serious accident.

My prayers and thoughts are for his well being right now. The waiver wire can wait. It's times like this that fantasy football just doesn't seem important. It's times like this when rivalries don't seem important. It's times like this when waiver wires don't seem important. It's times like this that remind us of what's reallt important.

The only thing that seems really important right now is that Ben is going to be alright, I hope. I'm not busting anyone's chops over this but I hope while everyone makes their moves that they think about Ben and remember he's a real man with serious injuries. He's not feeling much like fantasy right now. And I hope we're all better than just worrying about fantasy football.
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Remember, he's somebody's son.
 
Did John Clayton attend medical school? Does anyone else wish the talking heads would shut their collective pie holes until some definitive word is spoken by someone in the know?
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:goodposting: John is out of his element here, although to be fair, I can't imagine ESPN is allowign him to sit tight with this story. Being an ex-Pittsburgh guy and one of their two main news breakers, I'm sure producers on the ESPN networks, radio affiliates and internet properties are all deluging him for frequent updates, even if there's nothing new to say. :shrug:

 
I am not sure if it has been mentioned, but piece of glass in the eye could cause him to lose an eye. This would be very bad :no:
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Hi Que,Are you hearing this somewhere or just speculating that he might have a piece of glass in his eye?

J

 
While I realize everyone wants to know right now what's going on so they can run to the waiver wire and make a move, please, let's not forget what's really going on here. A man has had a serious accident.

My prayers and thoughts are for his well being right now. The waiver wire can wait. It's times like this that fantasy football just doesn't seem important. It's times like this when rivalries don't seem important. It's times like this when waiver wires don't seem important. It's times like this that remind us of what's reallt important.

The only thing that seems really important right now is that Ben is going to be alright, I hope. I'm not busting anyone's chops over this but I hope while everyone makes their moves that they think about Ben and remember he's a real man with serious injuries. He's not feeling much like fantasy right now. And I hope we're all better than just worrying about fantasy football.
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Excellent points and all, but.... would anyone really care if this Ben happened to be Ben Smith from Jackson, Mississippi?We know him and like him for what he does on the field....of course the first thought we have is "I hope he is ok"...but damn straight we are already thinking Fantasy Impact.

E

 
PLEASE keep this on real NFL news regarding Roethlisberger's situation. There's a thread in the FFA for the off topic stuff related to this. With a zillion people here trying to read about the real story and real news, please keep it to just relevant news here.

Thanks.

J

 
WTAE-TV reports according to a police source, Pittsburgh Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger suffered a broken jaw, broke his left sinus cavity, suffered a 9-inch laceration to the back of his head, lost many teeth and has severe injuries to his knees from hitting the pavement after he crashed his motorcycle earlier this morning. A plastic surgeon has been called in, the source said. "On behalf of everyone within the Steelers organization, I want to express my concern for Ben Roethlisberger. I am sure Ben knows that we are praying for his complete recovery. So far, we have been encouraged by the early reports from the medical team at Mercy Hospital," Steelers president Art Rooney said

WOW

 
While I realize everyone wants to know right now what's going on so they can run to the waiver wire and make a move, please, let's not forget what's really going on here. A man has had a serious accident.

My prayers and thoughts are for his well being right now. The waiver wire can wait. It's times like this that fantasy football just doesn't seem important. It's times like this when rivalries don't seem important. It's times like this when waiver wires don't seem important. It's times like this that remind us of what's reallt important.

The only thing that seems really important right now is that Ben is going to be alright, I hope. I'm not busting anyone's chops over this but I hope while everyone makes their moves that they think about Ben and remember he's a real man with serious injuries. He's not feeling much like fantasy right now. And I hope we're all better than just worrying about fantasy football.
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:goodposting:
 
Did John Clayton attend medical school? Does anyone else wish the talking heads would shut their collective pie holes until some definitive word is spoken by someone in the know?
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:goodposting: John is out of his element here, although to be fair, I can't imagine ESPN is allowign him to sit tight with this story. Being an ex-Pittsburgh guy and one of their two main news breakers, I'm sure producers on the ESPN networks, radio affiliates and internet properties are all deluging him for frequent updates, even if there's nothing new to say. :shrug:
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Good observation Jason. I hate it will they come on and just say the same thing over and over again. But like you said I'm sure they are needling him for something new.BTW, your avatar is great. :thumbup: Not sure why I like it though. :headbang:

 
Maybe the knee injuries are not serious?

Sources: Ben Injured Head, Face

(KDKA) PITTSBURGH Sources tell KDKA that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger broke his jaw, fractured facial bones, suffered lacerations to the front and back of his head and sprained both his knees in a motorcycle accident this morning.

Both injuries to his knees, however, are not believed to be serious.

Roethlisberger also lost teeth in the accident.

This afternoon, doctors at Mercy Hospital reported that he was listed in "serious, but stable condition" and was undergoing surgery early this afternoon.

At this point, the hospital has not yet given another update on his condition.
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However, I seriously doubt they have spent a whole lot of time examining the knees and the extent of any injury to them. ACL damage would likely not be diagnosed for a while yet.
 
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