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Freddie Keiaho (1 Viewer)

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I just picked this guy up with my last pick in a 32 team UCL league (pick 5.23).

I picked him because I have Gilbert Gardner as well and I see that Freddie is Gilberts backup. I was torn between he and Jamar Williams. Has anyone seen him play? Is he an NFL caliber LB? I hear he has a high motor but over pursues alot and doesn't tackle well. Did I make a mistake taking Keiaho over Jamar Williams?

p.s.

Jamar Williams is backing up Urlacher.

 
I saw him go in one of my leagues at 3.16! It seems there are people that think he could be Indy's MLB in a couple of years..... I also drated him in one league at 5.10.... at the time, I thought that might have been a bit early. I should mention that my dynasty IDP leagues use pretty aggresive D scoring.... much higher than standard FBG or Zealot league scoring.

Frankly, I never saw him play. I don't know a whole lot about him other than scouting reports.

 
Looks like Chaos is on his way in with a detailed report.

From what I've heard of Freddy, he has the skill set to make an excellent Tampa-2 WLB. Better than average cover skills and instincts. Smart read and react skills with the range and agility to play well in space.

The overpursuit and aggressiveness can be coached out of his game. Instincts, speed, and range can't be coached in. Wasn't hyped much but Dungy/Polian took him in the third.

Big, big upside potential here.

Hopefully CC has some game tape observations.

 
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Looks like Chaos is on his way in with a detailed report.

From what I've heard of Freddy, he has the skill set to make an excellent Tampa-2 WLB. Better than average cover skills and instincts. Smart read and react skills with the range and agility to play well in space.

The overpursuit and aggressiveness can be coached out of his game. Instincts, speed, and range can't be coached in. Wasn't hyped much but Dungy/Polian took him in the third.

Big, big upside potential here.

Hopefully CC has some game tape observations.
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Looks like Chaos is on his way in with a detailed report.

From what I've heard of Freddy, he has the skill set to make an excellent Tampa-2 WLB.  Better than average cover skills and instincts.  Smart read and react skills with the range and agility to play well in space.

The overpursuit and aggressiveness can be coached out of his game.  Instincts, speed, and range can't be coached in.  Wasn't hyped much but Dungy/Polian took him in the third.

Big, big upside potential here.

Hopefully CC has some game tape observations.
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Heh. :P CAN BE coached out of his game. Some guys won't get it obviously. But I'd rather have the aggressive dude than the tentative, less instinctive one. Hopefully they won't have to coach out any Lavar-attitude along the way.

 
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Looks like Chaos is on his way in with a detailed report.

From what I've heard of Freddy, he has the skill set to make an excellent Tampa-2 WLB. Better than average cover skills and instincts. Smart read and react skills with the range and agility to play well in space.

The overpursuit and aggressiveness can be coached out of his game. Instincts, speed, and range can't be coached in. Wasn't hyped much but Dungy/Polian took him in the third.

Big, big upside potential here.

Hopefully CC has some game tape observations.
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Heh. :P CAN BE coached out of his game. Some guys won't get it obviously. But I'd rather have the aggressive dude than the tentative, less instinctive one. Hopefully they won't have to coach out any Lavar-attitude along the way.
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Very true. Like this kid myself, but to pick him up I'd really have to drop Goo Wallace or Jordan Beck. :(

 
Being a San Diegan, I've seen a bunch of Keiaho. At Buena High he went by the name of Naivote Taulawakeiaho. He was a dominant fullback. He was an excellent, excellent, special teamer as an Aztec freshman. The Colts 3rd round LB was returning kicks in college, and he was good at it. He also blocked a few kicks and made some highlight reel blocks sprining others for long returns. I suspect his acumen on special teams boosted him (and several others btw) in this draft.

He plays LB fast and recklessly. He bites hard on misdirection and overruns a lot of plays. He also hits like a truck, even if he's just exploding into an OL he cannot avoid. He replaced Kirk Morrison and while he was a much different type of player, there wasn't a gap in production. Morrison has much better instincts. Keiaho has a better motor. If he settles in and learns to read plays better then he is similar to David Thornton. I doubt he has the natural defensive instincts to step in like Morrison did, but I was wrong about Morrison last year at this time.

A Colt caveat is Dale Robinson. He was picked up as a UDFA, and he's no special teamer, but he may be the better LB. It should be interesting to see how they both do there. Robinson was more productive than Keiaho in a tougher conference, and speaking of Jamar Williams, Robinson was better than him on the same defense. Robinson went undrafted, so I've been told, because he did poorly in interviews and acted like such a tough guy (but that's just him).

With Brackett and Gardner starting, there's definitely an opportunity for a rookie LB in Indy, but I think Keiaho is a year away. He's raw and a little undisciplined. Not sure if this helps much.

 
Being a San Diegan, I've seen a bunch of Keiaho.  At Buena High he went by the name of Naivote Taulawakeiaho.  He was a dominant fullback.  He was an excellent, excellent, special teamer as an Aztec freshman.  The Colts 3rd round LB was returning kicks in college, and he was good at it.  He also blocked a few kicks and made some highlight reel blocks sprining others for long returns.  I suspect his acumen on special teams boosted him (and several others btw) in this draft.

He plays LB fast and recklessly.  He bites hard on misdirection and overruns a lot of plays.  He also hits like a truck, even if he's just exploding into an OL he cannot avoid.  He replaced Kirk Morrison and while he was a much different type of player, there wasn't a gap in production.  Morrison has much better instincts.  Keiaho has a better motor.  If he settles in and learns to read plays better then he is similar to David Thornton.  I doubt he has the natural defensive instincts to step in like Morrison did, but I was wrong about Morrison last year at this time. 

A Colt caveat is Dale Robinson.  He was picked up as a UDFA, and he's no special teamer, but he may be the better LB.  It should be interesting to see how they both do there.  Robinson was more productive than Keiaho in a tougher conference, and speaking of Jamar Williams, Robinson was better than him on the same defense.  Robinson went undrafted, so I've been told, because he did poorly in interviews and acted like such a tough guy (but that's just him). 

With Brackett and Gardner starting, there's definitely an opportunity for a rookie LB in Indy, but I think Keiaho is a year away.  He's raw and a little undisciplined.  Not sure if this helps much.
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Thanks CC, that helps a lot.Think Robinson has the range and speed to play effectively in the Tampa-2? Probably best fit on the strong side where he wouldn't be expected to pursue as much as the WLB. And are his coverage skills as reasonable as Coyle and others suggest?

 
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Thanks CC, that helps a lot.

Think Robinson has the range and speed to play effectively in the Tampa-2? Probably best fit on the strong side where he wouldn't be expected to pursue as much as the WLB. And are his coverage skills as reasonable as Coyle and others suggest?
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Hey Jene,I'm probably not a good source on Robinson. I just love the guy, but he's not too bright. Went to JC for academic reasons. Had a variety of anger issues. Talks a lot of smack, but Reggie Bush will tell you he's the toughest man he faced in the Pac 10. Robinson plays with emotion, and when he gets all fired up, he can dominate a game, but it's a little out of control. He'll stick a TE on first down then give him an elbow to the head for good measure and jump up and push his own player who's just trying to calm him down. Then he'll stuff an RB on the next play and yell in his earhole. Then he'll break up a pass and taunt the QB. Then he'll throw his helmet and run off the field on 4th down yelling at the crowd. If he stays fired up, he'll come back on the field and do it again. :lol:

To answer your question, I think he's fine in pass coverage, but really he's a rover, a free lancer, a ball chaser. If he takes to coaching and harnesses all his ability, he could be a nice player on the weak side. I read a Jamar Williams interview, and he just chuckled about Dale going undrafted and said, "He'll be fine. He belongs on the football field and someone will recognize that."

 
I can't add much to the terrific report CC delivered on Keiaho, but I will say, keep an eye on Jamar Williams if the Bears are not able to re-sign Lance Briggs.

 
This says a lot about him

http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=3721

Keiaho (5-feet-11, 232 pounds), like Simmons and Addai, was considered one of the fastest players in this year’s draft at his position, running a 4.64-second 40-yard dash.

Keiaho, whose birth name is Naivote Taulawakeiaho, began his career at San Diego State, then played sparingly at linebacker until his senior season. He then made the All-Mountain West Conference first team as a senior, leading the Aztecs with 113 tackles, 68 solos, and he recorded 11.5 tackles for loss.

“He’s a dynamic striker, a run-and-hit player, an aggressive player,” Polian said. “He’s very much on the mold of the linebackers we have and have had here.”

Polian compared Keiaho to former Colts linebacker Mike Peterson.

“He’s a lot like Mike when he first came in – aggressive, fast, a nose for the football,” Polian said. “He’s a mix-it-up kind of player. He’s a three-down guy. He can be on the field for all three downs.”

Keiaho was a special teams ace throughout college, blocking four punts during his career.

“He obviously will make a big contribution on special teams right off the bat, because he can run and he’s tough and aggressive,” Polian said.

Dungy said he can play middle or outside linebacker.

“He’s going to fit right into our group really well,” Dungy said. “We’ll see where we’re going to line him up. (Middle) is the spot he has played. He is probably very well-suited to play (weakside or strongside).

“We just think he’s a good football player and he’ll fit into our group.”
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comparing him to Peterson, :thumbup:
 
Take it FWIW, but from the posts and other things I've read, he reminds me a lot of Kawika Mitchell. Smaller, but similar talent level, and initial problems with overpursuit.

 
Take it FWIW, but from the posts and other things I've read, he reminds me a lot of Kawika Mitchell. Smaller, but similar talent level, and initial problems with overpursuit.
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:eek: :X "Say it ain't so pa, say it ain't so." :cry:
 
Thanks for keepting the chatter down on Freddie. Just snagged him in my 16 teams league's rookie draft as the #85 pick.

Gilbert Gardner must go now...

 
Just picked him up at 6.12 in a 14-team league (82nd pick). He's my only LB drafted (not really a position of need) so it's a good flier to take at this point.

 
Just picked him up at 6.12 in a 14-team league (82nd pick). He's my only LB drafted (not really a position of need) so it's a good flier to take at this point.
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Good value. In my three rook drafts (16 team) he has gone between 66 and 72 ...
 
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Well, Dale Robinson is out of the way. He was released in error, flown back to Indy, practiced for a day, and was released officially. Keiaho held out for a litte while and is currently being worked at SLB. I fresh report says there's still lingering contract problems, but that may be in error. I thought he signed last week and I know he went to practice. Dungy said he looked good for his first day.
 
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Well, Dale Robinson is out of the way. He was released in error, flown back to Indy, practiced for a day, and was released officially. Keiaho held out for a litte while and is currently being worked at SLB. I fresh report says there's still lingering contract problems, but that may be in error. I thought he signed last week and I know he went to practice. Dungy said he looked good for his first day.
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I read somewhere - sorry no link that Keiaho is backing up Gilbert Gardner at OLB.
 
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Chaos Commish said:
redman said:
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Well, Dale Robinson is out of the way. He was released in error, flown back to Indy, practiced for a day, and was released officially. Keiaho held out for a litte while and is currently being worked at SLB. I fresh report says there's still lingering contract problems, but that may be in error. I thought he signed last week and I know he went to practice. Dungy said he looked good for his first day.
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I read somewhere - sorry no link that Keiaho is backing up Gilbert Gardner at OLB.
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Would you guys agree that he's the first guy into the lineup in the event that a OLB (June or Gardner) goes down? I have June, but Kieaho would be ideal on my practice squad as an injury hedge for me.
 
I'd guess so - I don't know anything about Keith O'Neill (ex DAL) that is listed as backup to June though.

 
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msommer said:
I'd guess so - I don't know anything about Keith O'Neill (ex DAL) that is listed as backup to June though.
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Thanks for the direct response to both of you. What's odd to me about this, though, is that Keiaho was drafted to be the long-term replacement for June, was he not? If I'm right about this, why wouldn't he be put into June's spot if he went down to injury?
 
redman said:
ffchamp1 said:
msommer said:
I'd guess so - I don't know anything about Keith O'Neill (ex DAL) that is listed as backup to June though.
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Thanks for the direct response to both of you. What's odd to me about this, though, is that Keiaho was drafted to be the long-term replacement for June, was he not? If I'm right about this, why wouldn't he be put into June's spot if he went down to injury?
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My impression was that Keiaho was drafted to be the long term MLB, ie taking over from Brackett.Similar to the CIN situation it could be that instead of the direct understudy taking over in case of injury that someone slides over and his understudy gets the nod.
 
msommer said:
redman said:
ffchamp1 said:
msommer said:
I'd guess so - I don't know anything about Keith O'Neill (ex DAL) that is listed as backup to June though.
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Thanks for the direct response to both of you. What's odd to me about this, though, is that Keiaho was drafted to be the long-term replacement for June, was he not? If I'm right about this, why wouldn't he be put into June's spot if he went down to injury?
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My impression was that Keiaho was drafted to be the long term MLB, ie taking over from Brackett.Similar to the CIN situation it could be that instead of the direct understudy taking over in case of injury that someone slides over and his understudy gets the nod.
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Gardner and Pope were drafted to be the long term WLB in Indy while Keiaho was going to get the look with Hagler as the MLB. But as we know in Indy and with Dungy, the LB's have to be interchangable and will often learn multiple positions.I would expect that if June walks next year, Gardner slides over to his more familiar role (college and the last two years) and then you have a battle at SLB again, if you can call it that.Indy has had good success but kills be with their arrogance that they can continually let good LB's walk (Washinton/Peterson/Thornton) so they can pay the offense.06Gardner, Brackett,June07Keiaho, Brackett (need to sign longterm) and GardnerTom
 
Thanks, Tom.

ffchamp1 said:
Indy has had good success but kills be with their arrogance that they can continually let good LB's walk (Washinton/Peterson/Thornton) so they can pay the offense.
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Aside: As a Redskins fan, I'm amazed at how good of a player and team leader they got in Marcus Washington. I hadn't known much about him and I figured that because Indy was relatively weak on defense (certainly not known for it) he was simply going to be a modestly talented journeyman LB. What's amazing to me is that Dungy is a defensive mind and allows that to happen, which is the polar opposite of what his teams were known for in Tampa. I know he's not the GM, but still . . .
 
ffchamp1 said:
msommer said:
redman said:
ffchamp1 said:
msommer said:
I'd guess so - I don't know anything about Keith O'Neill (ex DAL) that is listed as backup to June though.
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Thanks for the direct response to both of you. What's odd to me about this, though, is that Keiaho was drafted to be the long-term replacement for June, was he not? If I'm right about this, why wouldn't he be put into June's spot if he went down to injury?
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My impression was that Keiaho was drafted to be the long term MLB, ie taking over from Brackett.Similar to the CIN situation it could be that instead of the direct understudy taking over in case of injury that someone slides over and his understudy gets the nod.
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Gardner and Pope were drafted to be the long term WLB in Indy while Keiaho was going to get the look with Hagler as the MLB. But as we know in Indy and with Dungy, the LB's have to be interchangable and will often learn multiple positions.I would expect that if June walks next year, Gardner slides over to his more familiar role (college and the last two years) and then you have a battle at SLB again, if you can call it that.Indy has had good success but kills be with their arrogance that they can continually let good LB's walk (Washinton/Peterson/Thornton) so they can pay the offense.06Gardner, Brackett,June07Keiaho, Brackett (need to sign longterm) and GardnerTom
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Brackett is signed through 2009. Gardner has been given multiple opportunities to win the WLB role in this defense and been very unimpressive each time. I'm not sure the Colts have a backer worth plugging into the OLB roles this season. Of course, I'd have said that about Brackett and June as well but Brackett has really played well. Be interesting to hear late this season who has the inside track at the Will. Unless the backups look terrible all season long, June is gone. They've let much, much, much better players go and they've already signed Brackett.
 
Jene Bramel said:
ffchamp1 said:
msommer said:
redman said:
ffchamp1 said:
msommer said:
I'd guess so - I don't know anything about Keith O'Neill (ex DAL) that is listed as backup to June though.
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Thanks for the direct response to both of you. What's odd to me about this, though, is that Keiaho was drafted to be the long-term replacement for June, was he not? If I'm right about this, why wouldn't he be put into June's spot if he went down to injury?
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My impression was that Keiaho was drafted to be the long term MLB, ie taking over from Brackett.Similar to the CIN situation it could be that instead of the direct understudy taking over in case of injury that someone slides over and his understudy gets the nod.
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Gardner and Pope were drafted to be the long term WLB in Indy while Keiaho was going to get the look with Hagler as the MLB. But as we know in Indy and with Dungy, the LB's have to be interchangable and will often learn multiple positions.I would expect that if June walks next year, Gardner slides over to his more familiar role (college and the last two years) and then you have a battle at SLB again, if you can call it that.Indy has had good success but kills be with their arrogance that they can continually let good LB's walk (Washinton/Peterson/Thornton) so they can pay the offense.06Gardner, Brackett,June07Keiaho, Brackett (need to sign longterm) and GardnerTom
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Brackett is signed through 2009. Gardner has been given multiple opportunities to win the WLB role in this defense and been very unimpressive each time. I'm not sure the Colts have a backer worth plugging into the OLB roles this season. Of course, I'd have said that about Brackett and June as well but Brackett has really played well. Be interesting to hear late this season who has the inside track at the Will. Unless the backups look terrible all season long, June is gone. They've let much, much, much better players go and they've already signed Brackett.
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Good catch Jene on the extension Brackett signed. I do challenge the opportunities though for Gardner as he has been injured both years. The year he was drafted he injured his ankle early on while competeing with June and never recovered, to the dismay of Dungy and the staff.Tom
 
ffchamp1 said:
Jene Bramel said:
ffchamp1 said:
msommer said:
redman said:
ffchamp1 said:
msommer said:
I'd guess so - I don't know anything about Keith O'Neill (ex DAL) that is listed as backup to June though.
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Thanks for the direct response to both of you. What's odd to me about this, though, is that Keiaho was drafted to be the long-term replacement for June, was he not? If I'm right about this, why wouldn't he be put into June's spot if he went down to injury?
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My impression was that Keiaho was drafted to be the long term MLB, ie taking over from Brackett.Similar to the CIN situation it could be that instead of the direct understudy taking over in case of injury that someone slides over and his understudy gets the nod.
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Gardner and Pope were drafted to be the long term WLB in Indy while Keiaho was going to get the look with Hagler as the MLB. But as we know in Indy and with Dungy, the LB's have to be interchangable and will often learn multiple positions.I would expect that if June walks next year, Gardner slides over to his more familiar role (college and the last two years) and then you have a battle at SLB again, if you can call it that.Indy has had good success but kills be with their arrogance that they can continually let good LB's walk (Washinton/Peterson/Thornton) so they can pay the offense.06Gardner, Brackett,June07Keiaho, Brackett (need to sign longterm) and GardnerTom
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Brackett is signed through 2009. Gardner has been given multiple opportunities to win the WLB role in this defense and been very unimpressive each time. I'm not sure the Colts have a backer worth plugging into the OLB roles this season. Of course, I'd have said that about Brackett and June as well but Brackett has really played well. Be interesting to hear late this season who has the inside track at the Will. Unless the backups look terrible all season long, June is gone. They've let much, much, much better players go and they've already signed Brackett.
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Good catch Jene on the extension Brackett signed. I do challenge the opportunities though for Gardner as he has been injured both years. The year he was drafted he injured his ankle early on while competeing with June and never recovered, to the dismay of Dungy and the staff.Tom
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Yep. But injuries are part of the deal. Guy has never been able to stay healthy (ankles, shoulder, hamstrings). He was given another opportunity to compete with June last pre-season and failed to take advantage. I like Gardner on paper a lot. He's been on my rosters off and on for two seasons. I suppose he may be a late bloomer but at 6'1", 225lbs with his injury history, I've soured on him until he shows he's something more than Marquis Cooper.
 
Jene Bramel said:
ffchamp1 said:
Jene Bramel said:
ffchamp1 said:
msommer said:
redman said:
ffchamp1 said:
msommer said:
I'd guess so - I don't know anything about Keith O'Neill (ex DAL) that is listed as backup to June though.
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Thanks for the direct response to both of you. What's odd to me about this, though, is that Keiaho was drafted to be the long-term replacement for June, was he not? If I'm right about this, why wouldn't he be put into June's spot if he went down to injury?
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My impression was that Keiaho was drafted to be the long term MLB, ie taking over from Brackett.Similar to the CIN situation it could be that instead of the direct understudy taking over in case of injury that someone slides over and his understudy gets the nod.
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Gardner and Pope were drafted to be the long term WLB in Indy while Keiaho was going to get the look with Hagler as the MLB. But as we know in Indy and with Dungy, the LB's have to be interchangable and will often learn multiple positions.I would expect that if June walks next year, Gardner slides over to his more familiar role (college and the last two years) and then you have a battle at SLB again, if you can call it that.Indy has had good success but kills be with their arrogance that they can continually let good LB's walk (Washinton/Peterson/Thornton) so they can pay the offense.06Gardner, Brackett,June07Keiaho, Brackett (need to sign longterm) and GardnerTom
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Brackett is signed through 2009. Gardner has been given multiple opportunities to win the WLB role in this defense and been very unimpressive each time. I'm not sure the Colts have a backer worth plugging into the OLB roles this season. Of course, I'd have said that about Brackett and June as well but Brackett has really played well. Be interesting to hear late this season who has the inside track at the Will. Unless the backups look terrible all season long, June is gone. They've let much, much, much better players go and they've already signed Brackett.
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Good catch Jene on the extension Brackett signed. I do challenge the opportunities though for Gardner as he has been injured both years. The year he was drafted he injured his ankle early on while competeing with June and never recovered, to the dismay of Dungy and the staff.Tom
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Yep. But injuries are part of the deal. Guy has never been able to stay healthy (ankles, shoulder, hamstrings). He was given another opportunity to compete with June last pre-season and failed to take advantage. I like Gardner on paper a lot. He's been on my rosters off and on for two seasons. I suppose he may be a late bloomer but at 6'1", 225lbs with his injury history, I've soured on him until he shows he's something more than Marquis Cooper.
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Fair enough (says the guy who has owened him for 2 yrs and has him for 3 more) :wall: Tom
 
ffchamp1 said:
Indy has had good success but kills be with their arrogance that they can continually let good LB's walk (Washinton/Peterson/Thornton) so they can pay the offense.Tom
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The Colts's system is based on the effectiveness of their defensive line - so that is where the defensive money goes/will go - and their safeties. Freeney will get a huge deal within the next year. I expect when his rookie deal is done, Bob Sanders will get a nice deal with Colts. I fully expect Cato June to walk next year. If they can get mid-round LB picks to play well for them, why pay for LBs when you can put it elsewhere?Also, with Edge going to Arizona, Robert Mathis and Gary Brackett getting long-term deals, and Freeney eventually getting locked up - the balance of offense and defense money will be a bit more in balance in the next couple of years.
 
Any signs of Keiaho getting into the lineup? Is he developing like they want, or has he just not gotten an opportunity yet?

 
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Any signs of Keiaho getting into the lineup? Is he developing like they want, or has he just not gotten an opportunity yet?
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Only if Gardner gets benched or injured. I'm hoping that he can beat out Gardner next year because Gardner has to be a candidate for worst starting LB in the NFL.
 
djcolts said:
redman said:
Any signs of Keiaho getting into the lineup? Is he developing like they want, or has he just not gotten an opportunity yet?
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Only if Gardner gets benched or injured. I'm hoping that he can beat out Gardner next year because Gardner has to be a candidate for worst starting LB in the NFL.
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Isn't June a UFA such that Keiaho might replace him at the Will?
 
redman said:
djcolts said:
redman said:
Any signs of Keiaho getting into the lineup? Is he developing like they want, or has he just not gotten an opportunity yet?
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Only if Gardner gets benched or injured. I'm hoping that he can beat out Gardner next year because Gardner has to be a candidate for worst starting LB in the NFL.
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Isn't June a UFA such that Keiaho might replace him at the Will?
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Even if he is June would probably be a priority to get extended before Free Agency
 
msommer said:
redman said:
djcolts said:
redman said:
Any signs of Keiaho getting into the lineup? Is he developing like they want, or has he just not gotten an opportunity yet?
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Only if Gardner gets benched or injured. I'm hoping that he can beat out Gardner next year because Gardner has to be a candidate for worst starting LB in the NFL.
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Isn't June a UFA such that Keiaho might replace him at the Will?
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Even if he is June would probably be a priority to get extended before Free Agency
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June will be a free agent in the off-season. But it hasn't been a priority for the Colts to re-sign a LB in recent seasons under Polian/Dungy. Marcus Washington, Mike Peterson, and David Thornton -- all very good players -- were allowed to leave in free agency. The Colts elected to extend Gary Brackett this offseason. Whether that's a change in philospohy or a choice between the two LB for the future remains to be seen. The Colts like Keiaho and Tyjuan Hagler. Gardner could be in the mix as well, but he'll be a RFA and may or may not be tendered depending on how Keiaho and Hagler progress.
 
Jene Bramel said:
msommer said:
redman said:
djcolts said:
redman said:
Any signs of Keiaho getting into the lineup? Is he developing like they want, or has he just not gotten an opportunity yet?
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Only if Gardner gets benched or injured. I'm hoping that he can beat out Gardner next year because Gardner has to be a candidate for worst starting LB in the NFL.
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Isn't June a UFA such that Keiaho might replace him at the Will?
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Even if he is June would probably be a priority to get extended before Free Agency
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June will be a free agent in the off-season. But it hasn't been a priority for the Colts to re-sign a LB in recent seasons under Polian/Dungy. Marcus Washington, Mike Peterson, and David Thornton -- all very good players -- were allowed to leave in free agency. The Colts elected to extend Gary Brackett this offseason. Whether that's a change in philospohy or a choice between the two LB for the future remains to be seen. The Colts like Keiaho and Tyjuan Hagler. Gardner could be in the mix as well, but he'll be a RFA and may or may not be tendered depending on how Keiaho and Hagler progress.
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Good to know. I have June but Keiaho is also on my practice squad, so I certainly don't mind sitting on him for a year. Should be interesting with both of those players.
 
redman said:
Jene Bramel said:
msommer said:
redman said:
djcolts said:
redman said:
Any signs of Keiaho getting into the lineup? Is he developing like they want, or has he just not gotten an opportunity yet?
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Only if Gardner gets benched or injured. I'm hoping that he can beat out Gardner next year because Gardner has to be a candidate for worst starting LB in the NFL.
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Isn't June a UFA such that Keiaho might replace him at the Will?
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Even if he is June would probably be a priority to get extended before Free Agency
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June will be a free agent in the off-season. But it hasn't been a priority for the Colts to re-sign a LB in recent seasons under Polian/Dungy. Marcus Washington, Mike Peterson, and David Thornton -- all very good players -- were allowed to leave in free agency. The Colts elected to extend Gary Brackett this offseason. Whether that's a change in philospohy or a choice between the two LB for the future remains to be seen. The Colts like Keiaho and Tyjuan Hagler. Gardner could be in the mix as well, but he'll be a RFA and may or may not be tendered depending on how Keiaho and Hagler progress.
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Good to know. I have June but Keiaho is also on my practice squad, so I certainly don't mind sitting on him for a year. Should be interesting with both of those players.
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It should be noted that coming out of camp, Freddie was backing up Gardner and Hagler was backing up June.I would bet that if Gardner is resigned, he will replaced JuneTom
 
Brackett's out of the game with a back injury, and Keiaho's manning the MLB spot. He actually looks pretty good.

What's interesting to me is that he has the plays on the armband and appears to be taking the play-calls from the sideline and lining up people once the offense gets to the line of scrimmage. That implies a fair amount of preparation at the MLB spot, no? Is he the heir to the MLB?

 
redman said:
Brackett's out of the game with a back injury, and Keiaho's manning the MLB spot. He actually looks pretty good. What's interesting to me is that he has the plays on the armband and appears to be taking the play-calls from the sideline and lining up people once the offense gets to the line of scrimmage. That implies a fair amount of preparation at the MLB spot, no? Is he the heir to the MLB?
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Unlikely. They signed Brackett to a long term deal in the offseason. I'm pretty certain Keiaho gets reps at SLB during the week although I may be wrong on that. Tyjuan Hagler is the second team WLB. With Rob Morris inactive, Keiaho got the call.He looks as good as he did during the preseason.
 
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Keiaho made more plays last night than Gardner has made all year. They need to get him more playing time.

 
Jene Bramel said:
redman said:
Brackett's out of the game with a back injury, and Keiaho's manning the MLB spot. He actually looks pretty good. What's interesting to me is that he has the plays on the armband and appears to be taking the play-calls from the sideline and lining up people once the offense gets to the line of scrimmage. That implies a fair amount of preparation at the MLB spot, no? Is he the heir to the MLB?
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Unlikely. They signed Brackett to a long term deal in the offseason. I'm pretty certain Keiaho gets reps at SLB during the week although I may be wrong on that. Tyjuan Hagler is the second team WLB. With Rob Morris inactive, Keiaho got the call.He looks as good as he did during the preseason.
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When he was drafted they talked MLB:shrug:
 
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