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Michael Turner, Running Back

TEAM: San Diego Chargers

HEIGHT/WEIGHT: 5'10' / 237

DOB: 2/13/1982

AGE: 24

COLLEGE: Northern Illinois

CONTRACT INFO: 2006: $385,000, 2007: Restricted Free Agent

Pro Career

Selected by San Diego in the fifth round (154th overall) of the 2004 NFL Draft.

College Career

A two-time All-America selection and semifinalist for the prestigious Doak Walker Award (nation's premier running back), Michael rushed for 1,915 yards as a junior (2002) and 1,648 more as a senior (2003) to finish ranked 13th on the all-time National Collegiate Athletic Association major-college rushing list with 4,941 career yards … He finished second in the nation in rushing in each of the last two seasons, but his most impressive statistic is that he had only two fumbles on his last 508 rushing attempts … He is blessed with the size of a fullback and the speed of a sprinter … Head coach Joe Novak said, "Michael is so big and so strong, he's a guy that's fast when he gets going. He's fast in the second 50 yards. He can learn pass blocking and he's big enough to protect the pocket passer. He belongs among the best seniors or draft-eligible players in the country." … He holds virtually every school game, season and career rushing record at NIU, as he totaled 4,941 yards on 940 carries (5.3 avg.) and 43 touchdowns, topping the previous all-time marks of 867 carries by Allen Ross (1977-80), 3,745 yards by Mark Kellar (1971-73) and 38 touchdowns by Stacey Robinson (1988-90) … Added 451 yards and three scores on 43 catches (10.5 avg.) and 646 yards and a pair of touchdowns on 22 kickoff returns (29.4 avg.) … Ranks second in school history with 288 points scored, topped only by Steve Azar (370, 2000-03) … Ran for over 100 yards in 21 of 45 games, topping the old school career record of 20 by Kellar … His 6,038 all-purpose yards shattered the previous Huskies all-time record of 4,732 yards by Deon Mitchell (1995-98) … Only Travis Prentice of Miami, Ohio (5,596, 1996-99) gained more yards rushing in a career in Mid-American Conference history.

Source- NFLPlayers.com

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Turner has averaged a stellar 5.7 YPC on 77 carries in a limited role behind LaDanian Tomlinson. He has displayed both power and speed with NFL highlights including an 83 yard run in a game last December against the Colts and runs of 45 and 38 yards in preseason games this year.

The mileage is starting to pile up on LT with six years of service, over 2,000 reps, and more than 9,600 yards. With the exception of freaks of nature like Curtis Martin, backs start to decline at this stage.

Turner is poised to make the best of whatever opportunity is given him. Whether it is to spell LT during games or replace him outright in the event of an injury. If the later happens (and I don't wish an injury on any player, never the less one of LT's caliber), then I predict Turner will become a HUGE difference maker in many fantasy leagues.

Get on board now. This guy is an absolute superstud in the making and he is starting to become one of the worst keep secrets in fantasy football.

Starting to become the worst kept secret????

I tried too draft him in every league im in!! I dont think this is news to anyone!!

OVER-RATED!!!

(Just bent cause I didn't get him in my draft...)

Brassmonkey71 said:

Starting to become the worst kept secret????I tried too draft him in every league im in!! I dont think this is news to anyone!!

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I think a few people are still sleeping on him because he's backing up LT and LT has been historically a durable RB. Turner is almost always drafted as a late round handcuff by LT owners. I'm saying he deserves more attention than that, even from non-LT owners.Anyway, welcome aboard!

el-gato-grande said:

Brassmonkey71 said:

Starting to become the worst kept secret????I tried too draft him in every league im in!! I dont think this is news to anyone!!

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I think a few people are still sleeping on him because he's backing up LT and LT has been historically a durable RB. Turner is almost always drafted as a late round handcuff by LT owners. I'm saying he deserves more attention than that, even from non-LT owners.Anyway, welcome aboard!

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I'm with you, el gato. Turner is stashed safe and sound on my roster. I don't have LT and he's still not going anywhere.

I'd never root for an injury, but Turner is one of my favorite players in the NFL. I own him in all three of my leagues, including a dynasty.

SupaDupaTD said:

I'd never root for an injury, but Turner is one of my favorite players in the NFL. I own him in all three of my leagues, including a dynasty.

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I personally think he won't be with the Chargers next year. He wants to start and unless something happens to LT, then I think the team will have to trade him to ensure they get something back since he goes UFA in 2008. That is if they don't lose him to RFA, but that is a rarity these days.The Footballguys don't have him very high in their dynasty RB rankings (I won't disclose the specific ranking or who he is ranked behind since its paid content). I'm not sure how they determine that, but I believe Turner will contribute this year on the order of 5-10 carries on average per game. So he should be higher on the list.

I grabbed him in my 4-man keeper where I need help building my team.

Didn't get him in my 3-man keeper, but I have LT and LJ there, so I don't really need him. I still may try to trade for him during the year to have three stud RBs that I can trade next year.

Turner will be a starter next year and a top 5 RB, IMO. Get him now while he's cheap (ala LJ last year).

el-gato-grande said:

SupaDupaTD said:

I'd never root for an injury, but Turner is one of my favorite players in the NFL. I own him in all three of my leagues, including a dynasty.

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I personally think he won't be with the Chargers next year. He wants to start and unless something happens to LT, then I think the team will have to trade him to ensure they get something back since he goes UFA in 2008. That is if they don't lose him to RFA, but that is a rarity these days.

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The way things stand now, he'll likely get the highest tender next year, so it may be too much to pay for most teams . Perhaps a team at the bottom of the 1st though (Denver? ) may be willing to surrender the pick.More than likely, he'll be a very well-paid backup next year before possibly getting a Lamont Jordan-like payday in '08.

zamboni said:

el-gato-grande said:

SupaDupaTD said:

I'd never root for an injury, but Turner is one of my favorite players in the NFL. I own him in all three of my leagues, including a dynasty.

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I personally think he won't be with the Chargers next year. He wants to start and unless something happens to LT, then I think the team will have to trade him to ensure they get something back since he goes UFA in 2008. That is if they don't lose him to RFA, but that is a rarity these days.

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The way things stand now, he'll likely get the highest tender next year, so it may be too much to pay for most teams . Perhaps a team at the bottom of the 1st though (Denver? ) may be willing to surrender the pick.More than likely, he'll be a very well-paid backup next year before possibly getting a Lamont Jordan-like payday in '08.

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As a Bronco fan, I'm gonna have to ask you to not say that any more. Don't get me excited about something that won't happen.Honestly, the Chargers would have to pay top dollar for Turner next year. If they trade him, they'll get good value for someone that they won't get anything for the following year.Jordan is not as good as Turner...

Brewdude said:

zamboni said:

el-gato-grande said:

SupaDupaTD said:

I'd never root for an injury, but Turner is one of my favorite players in the NFL. I own him in all three of my leagues, including a dynasty.

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I personally think he won't be with the Chargers next year. He wants to start and unless something happens to LT, then I think the team will have to trade him to ensure they get something back since he goes UFA in 2008. That is if they don't lose him to RFA, but that is a rarity these days.

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The way things stand now, he'll likely get the highest tender next year, so it may be too much to pay for most teams . Perhaps a team at the bottom of the 1st though (Denver? ) may be willing to surrender the pick.More than likely, he'll be a very well-paid backup next year before possibly getting a Lamont Jordan-like payday in '08.

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As a Bronco fan, I'm gonna have to ask you to not say that any more. Don't get me excited about something that won't happen.Honestly, the Chargers would have to pay top dollar for Turner next year. If they trade him, they'll get good value for someone that they won't get anything for the following year.Jordan is not as good as Turner...

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Agreed - they're going to have to pay him top RFA dollars, but it's either that or let him go (which obviously isn't going to happen). Absent someone giving him an offer sheet the Chargers can't refuse, he'll likely stay with the team. Perhaps they'll try to trade him to get good value, but trades are obviously tough to come by. I agree he's more talented than Jordan - I just meant he could command the kind of coin the Raiders gave to Lamont.

zamboni said:

el-gato-grande said:

SupaDupaTD said:

I'd never root for an injury, but Turner is one of my favorite players in the NFL. I own him in all three of my leagues, including a dynasty.

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I personally think he won't be with the Chargers next year. He wants to start and unless something happens to LT, then I think the team will have to trade him to ensure they get something back since he goes UFA in 2008. That is if they don't lose him to RFA, but that is a rarity these days.

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The way things stand now, he'll likely get the highest tender next year, so it may be too much to pay for most teams . Perhaps a team at the bottom of the 1st though (Denver? ) may be willing to surrender the pick.More than likely, he'll be a very well-paid backup next year before possibly getting a Lamont Jordan-like payday in '08.

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The problem with Denver is the divisional rivalry. Can you imagine Denver in San Diego, as Turner runs for 200+ yards?I'd say Pittsburgh (if Parker disapoints) or Indy are more likely. (The thought of Turner in Indy should get juices flowing)

-OZ- said:

zamboni said:

el-gato-grande said:

SupaDupaTD said:

I'd never root for an injury, but Turner is one of my favorite players in the NFL. I own him in all three of my leagues, including a dynasty.

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I personally think he won't be with the Chargers next year. He wants to start and unless something happens to LT, then I think the team will have to trade him to ensure they get something back since he goes UFA in 2008. That is if they don't lose him to RFA, but that is a rarity these days.

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The way things stand now, he'll likely get the highest tender next year, so it may be too much to pay for most teams . Perhaps a team at the bottom of the 1st though (Denver? ) may be willing to surrender the pick.More than likely, he'll be a very well-paid backup next year before possibly getting a Lamont Jordan-like payday in '08.

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The problem with Denver is the divisional rivalry. Can you imagine Denver in San Diego, as Turner runs for 200+ yards?I'd say Pittsburgh (if Parker disapoints) or Indy are more likely. (The thought of Turner in Indy should get juices flowing)

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All the more reason for Denver to make a play for him in RFA, and they've seen him up close. As Brewdude noted however, it probably won't happen, and a trade certainly won't as well.

zamboni said:

-OZ- said:

zamboni said:

el-gato-grande said:

SupaDupaTD said:

I'd never root for an injury, but Turner is one of my favorite players in the NFL. I own him in all three of my leagues, including a dynasty.

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I personally think he won't be with the Chargers next year. He wants to start and unless something happens to LT, then I think the team will have to trade him to ensure they get something back since he goes UFA in 2008. That is if they don't lose him to RFA, but that is a rarity these days.

Click to expand...

The way things stand now, he'll likely get the highest tender next year, so it may be too much to pay for most teams . Perhaps a team at the bottom of the 1st though (Denver? ) may be willing to surrender the pick.More than likely, he'll be a very well-paid backup next year before possibly getting a Lamont Jordan-like payday in '08.

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The problem with Denver is the divisional rivalry. Can you imagine Denver in San Diego, as Turner runs for 200+ yards?I'd say Pittsburgh (if Parker disapoints) or Indy are more likely. (The thought of Turner in Indy should get juices flowing)

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All the more reason for Denver to make a play for him in RFA, and they've seen him up close. As Brewdude noted however, it probably won't happen, and a trade certainly won't as well.

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I'm thinking it's more likely that SD trades him in a sign and trade for a 1st, but not to Denver.Figure, if they retain him for 2007, he's gone in 2008, and what do they get then?

What I can't figure out is how Turner dropped to the 5th round that year. Wow, what a bargain.

Gandalf said:

What I can't figure out is how Turner dropped to the 5th round that year. Wow, what a bargain.

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You're right, but:2004 Rd Sel# Player Pos. School 1 24 Steven Jackson RB Oregon State 1 26 Chris Perry RB Michigan 1 30 Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech 2 41 Tatum Bell RB Oklahoma State 2 43 Julius Jones RB Notre Dame 4 119 Mewelde Moore RB Tulane 4 128 Cedric Cobbs RB Arkansas 5 154 Michael Turner RB Northern Illinois 7 208 Adimchinobe Echemandu RB California 7 219 Quincy Wilson RB West Virginia 7 235 Derrick Ward RB Ottawa, Kan. 7 242 Bruce Perry RB Maryland 7 247 Brandon Miree RB Pittsburgh Aside from Cobbs, those top 8 are pretty talented.

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Gandalf said:

What I can't figure out is how Turner dropped to the 5th round that year. Wow, what a bargain.

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You're right, but:2004 Rd Sel# Player Pos. School 1 24 Steven Jackson RB Oregon State 1 26 Chris Perry RB Michigan 1 30 Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech 2 41 Tatum Bell RB Oklahoma State 2 43 Julius Jones RB Notre Dame 4 119 Mewelde Moore RB Tulane 4 128 Cedric Cobbs RB Arkansas 5 154 Michael Turner RB Northern Illinois 7 208 Adimchinobe Echemandu RB California 7 219 Quincy Wilson RB West Virginia 7 235 Derrick Ward RB Ottawa, Kan. 7 242 Bruce Perry RB Maryland 7 247 Brandon Miree RB Pittsburgh Aside from Cobbs, those top 8 are pretty talented.

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True, that was a deep draft.

Worst case.

If Michael Turner does not play a down this year, I will be competitive in all my money leagues.

Mister CIA said:

Worst case.If Michael Turner does not play a down this year, I will be competitive in all my money leagues.

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I will sleep better at night knowing that.

el-gato-grande said:

Brassmonkey71 said:

Starting to become the worst kept secret????

I tried too draft him in every league im in!! I dont think this is news to anyone!!

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I think a few people are still sleeping on him because he's backing up LT and LT has been historically a durable RB. Turner is almost always drafted as a late round handcuff by LT owners. I'm saying he deserves more attention than that, even from non-LT owners.Anyway, welcome aboard!

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no question LT has been the quintessential workhorse since coming into the league. he's averaged over 400 touches a season so far in his career (340 rush, 68 rec).the thought of LT breaking down didn't dawn on me until last year after the Oakland game when the whole rib thing happened. He just wasn't the same after that and almost cost me the Championship.

LT is a stud no doubt, you don't need me to tell you that, but Turner could step in with little or no drop off IF anything were to put LT on the shelf for a while. With the amount of work he's had, I'm just playing the averages and grabbed Turner late this year.

el-gato-grande said:

Mister CIA said:

Worst case.If Michael Turner does not play a down this year, I will be competitive in all my money leagues.

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I will sleep better at night knowing that.

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You missed my point.Carry on.

brednbuddah said:

the thought of LT breaking down didn't dawn on me until last year after the Oakland game when the whole rib thing happened. He just wasn't the same after that and almost cost me the Championship.

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That was no breaking down - it was a malicious hit. It did cost me my championship, but that's beyond the point.Anyway, as for Turner, I agree with Oz that a sign and trade may be the best alternative for the Chargers, but it obviously depends on if they can get a trading partner. The way things are looking, however, it's possible that there may be many teams looking for new feature backs next year.

I have rostered Turner in both my main leagues. I own LT2 in one and not the other. We have restrictive rosters, only allowing us to hold 4 running backs max, so that gives you some idea of how much I value the Burna.

I just think this is the year he gets a chance, whether that be because of injury or some type of situational stuff.

Sabertooth said:

I have rostered Turner in both my main leagues. I own LT2 in one and not the other. We have restrictive rosters, only allowing us to hold 4 running backs max, so that gives you some idea of how much I value the Burna. I just think this is the year he gets a chance, whether that be because of injury or some type of situational stuff.

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Injury is the only way he sees the field.

Banger said:

Sabertooth said:

I have rostered Turner in both my main leagues. I own LT2 in one and not the other. We have restrictive rosters, only allowing us to hold 4 running backs max, so that gives you some idea of how much I value the Burna.

I just think this is the year he gets a chance, whether that be because of injury or some type of situational stuff.

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Injury is the only way he sees the field.

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'Burner' is a white-hot backup

By: JAY PARIS - Staff Writer

NCTimes.com

SAN DIEGO ---- An inquirer tossed this question at Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer: What if second-string running back Michael Turner got 25 or so carries in a game?

Before trainer James Collins was summoned for the smelling salts, Schottenheimer regained his wits. If Turner gets the ball that often, that means Pro Bowler LaDainian Tomlinson is hurt.

You sure you're OK, Coach?

"I don't want to get into that situation,'' Schottenheimer stressed. "But we are sure glad Michael is a San Diego Charger.''

There's no discounting Turner's worth. As Tomlinson's backup, the roly-poly Turner delivers a solid change of pace and white-hot production.

Turner's nickname is The Burner, and the Colts are still applying balm to the scorch marks he left in Indianapolis. The Colts were clinging to hopes of an undefeated season last December when Turner's late 83-yard touchdown dagger killed that notion in the Chargers' 26-17 triumph.

It was a run for the ages which seemingly grows better with age. It was a staple on ESPN, it's made the NFL Network rounds and the call of Turner's scoot by Chargers radio voice Josh Lewin was played at Ford Field during Super Bowl XL.

There's nothing small, though, about that memento.

"I will never forget it,'' said Turner, of the Chargers' longest scoring run since 1962. "It is something I can show my kids someday when I'm an old grandpa.''

While Turner has young legs, there's no kidding about this: He's Tomlinson's caddy, meaning his shots are few and far between.

Last year, Turner carried only 57 times, but it was good enough for a 5.7-yard average and three touchdowns. That's a spike from his rookie season, when he got the ball on 20 occasions.

"I'm just trying to get better every year, just trying to establish myself in this league, and I think I am doing a pretty good job of that,'' he said.

Job No. 1 for the Chargers is keeping Tomlinson fit and on the field. But when Tomlinson needs a blow, the wind of change presents Turner, a Windy City native.

What's uncanny about Turner his is looks and his look-out quickness. At 5-foot-10 and 237 pounds, Turner is constructed like a power runner. But Turner's speedometer isn't buried at single digits, meaning his giddy-up is up there.

"He doesn't look like a fast guy, but he runs fast ---- the Indianapolis Colts are fast and they couldn't catch him,'' Schottenheimer said.

Some speculate Turner should catch a break. Anchored behind a two-time Pro Bowler, Turner is often a Sunday afterthought.

"Yeah, you can look at it that way, but L.T. is such a great guy that he makes it easy to work with him,'' Turner said. "I just want to be there for him where he needs me and I hope he has confidence in me to get the job done.''

That he does.

"I have a lot of confidence in Michael,'' Tomlinson said. "His value to this team isn't really spoken about, but he could be a starter in this league very easily.''

Turner considers himself a backup in name only.

"I prepare myself as a starter,'' he said. "Every week I imagine myself being a starter on this team, even though I know it might not happen. But I prepare myself that way because I'm one play away. L.T. can get hurt any time. I don't wish that on him, but it is the nature of the game.''

Human nature has Schottenheimer praying against that scenario. Then again, Schottenheimer could at least turn to Turner.

"Michael has terrific patience,'' Schottenheimer said. "Watch him run ---- he kind of slides in there and then all of sudden it's 'boom' when he sees that hole.''

Schottenheimer is visualizing something else: a backfield featuring Tomlinson and Turner.

"That would be interesting,'' Schottenheimer said. "We fool around with it, so you never know.''

Schottenheimer hopes he never learns about a 25-carry game for Turner. That's something Turner would relish, although it takes a back seat to another goal.

"We are all about winning,'' he said. "I'll get my shot, my opportunity. I'm being patient right now.''

el-gato-grande said:

Banger said:

Sabertooth said:

I have rostered Turner in both my main leagues. I own LT2 in one and not the other. We have restrictive rosters, only allowing us to hold 4 running backs max, so that gives you some idea of how much I value the Burna.

I just think this is the year he gets a chance, whether that be because of injury or some type of situational stuff.

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Injury is the only way he sees the field.

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'Burner' is a white-hot backup

By: JAY PARIS - Staff Writer

NCTimes.com

SAN DIEGO ---- An inquirer tossed this question at Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer: What if second-string running back Michael Turner got 25 or so carries in a game?

Before trainer James Collins was summoned for the smelling salts, Schottenheimer regained his wits. If Turner gets the ball that often, that means Pro Bowler LaDainian Tomlinson is hurt.

You sure you're OK, Coach?

"I don't want to get into that situation,'' Schottenheimer stressed. "But we are sure glad Michael is a San Diego Charger.''

There's no discounting Turner's worth. As Tomlinson's backup, the roly-poly Turner delivers a solid change of pace and white-hot production.

Turner's nickname is The Burner, and the Colts are still applying balm to the scorch marks he left in Indianapolis. The Colts were clinging to hopes of an undefeated season last December when Turner's late 83-yard touchdown dagger killed that notion in the Chargers' 26-17 triumph.

It was a run for the ages which seemingly grows better with age. It was a staple on ESPN, it's made the NFL Network rounds and the call of Turner's scoot by Chargers radio voice Josh Lewin was played at Ford Field during Super Bowl XL.

There's nothing small, though, about that memento.

"I will never forget it,'' said Turner, of the Chargers' longest scoring run since 1962. "It is something I can show my kids someday when I'm an old grandpa.''

While Turner has young legs, there's no kidding about this: He's Tomlinson's caddy, meaning his shots are few and far between.

Last year, Turner carried only 57 times, but it was good enough for a 5.7-yard average and three touchdowns. That's a spike from his rookie season, when he got the ball on 20 occasions.

"I'm just trying to get better every year, just trying to establish myself in this league, and I think I am doing a pretty good job of that,'' he said.

Job No. 1 for the Chargers is keeping Tomlinson fit and on the field. But when Tomlinson needs a blow, the wind of change presents Turner, a Windy City native.

What's uncanny about Turner his is looks and his look-out quickness. At 5-foot-10 and 237 pounds, Turner is constructed like a power runner. But Turner's speedometer isn't buried at single digits, meaning his giddy-up is up there.

"He doesn't look like a fast guy, but he runs fast ---- the Indianapolis Colts are fast and they couldn't catch him,'' Schottenheimer said.

Some speculate Turner should catch a break. Anchored behind a two-time Pro Bowler, Turner is often a Sunday afterthought.

"Yeah, you can look at it that way, but L.T. is such a great guy that he makes it easy to work with him,'' Turner said. "I just want to be there for him where he needs me and I hope he has confidence in me to get the job done.''

That he does.

"I have a lot of confidence in Michael,'' Tomlinson said. "His value to this team isn't really spoken about, but he could be a starter in this league very easily.''

Turner considers himself a backup in name only.

"I prepare myself as a starter,'' he said. "Every week I imagine myself being a starter on this team, even though I know it might not happen. But I prepare myself that way because I'm one play away. L.T. can get hurt any time. I don't wish that on him, but it is the nature of the game.''

Human nature has Schottenheimer praying against that scenario. Then again, Schottenheimer could at least turn to Turner.

"Michael has terrific patience,'' Schottenheimer said. "Watch him run ---- he kind of slides in there and then all of sudden it's 'boom' when he sees that hole.''

Schottenheimer is visualizing something else: a backfield featuring Tomlinson and Turner.

"That would be interesting,'' Schottenheimer said. "We fool around with it, so you never know.''

Schottenheimer hopes he never learns about a 25-carry game for Turner. That's something Turner would relish, although it takes a back seat to another goal.

"We are all about winning,'' he said. "I'll get my shot, my opportunity. I'm being patient right now.''

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you forgot this part. Turner is a good backup but he's exactly that a backup. Unfortunately for him he's behind the best back in the league but as long as LT is healthy he is their franchise and he is getting the ball. Yes, they may play with Turner in a few two back sets and he will get a couple carries but LT is the 1st, 2nd and 3rd back on this team until he retires.

Turner part of backfield duet with Tomlinson?

By Kevin Acee

UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

September 8, 2006

The rumbling gets louder each time he does something sensational, that Michael Turner needs to be more a part of the offense.

Increasingly, there are indications that the Chargers could feature more plays with both Turner and LaDainian Tomlinson in the backfield.

“I wouldn't be surprised if that happens at some point,” quarterback Philip Rivers said, echoing a sentiment expressed by head coach Marty Schottenheimer. “ . . . We have so many weapons offensively and there's only one football,” Rivers added. “I think that's what makes us so dangerous.”

Said Turner: “I want this team to be able to use me, to have confidence when I'm out there. Coaches might feel we can cause problems with me and L.T. on the field at the same time. (Defenses) won't know what to do.”

In Monday night's opener at Oakland, whether he plays significantly in the backfield or not, Turner will get some touches. He will return kickoffs in Cletis Gordon's absence. Gordon injured his wrist in the preseason finale and is wearing a cast following surgery.

“It's fun,” Turner said of returning kickoffs, which he did once in each of the past two seasons. “It's just a different kind of challenge – can you take it the distance? Returning kicks is not an easy skill. I don't use my strength on kick returns. I just try to use my acceleration. That's the key to returning kicks is you've got to burst through the holes.”

Eric Parker will likely return punts Monday.

Banger said:

el-gato-grande said:

Banger said:

Sabertooth said:

I have rostered Turner in both my main leagues. I own LT2 in one and not the other. We have restrictive rosters, only allowing us to hold 4 running backs max, so that gives you some idea of how much I value the Burna.

I just think this is the year he gets a chance, whether that be because of injury or some type of situational stuff.

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Injury is the only way he sees the field.

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'Burner' is a white-hot backup

By: JAY PARIS - Staff Writer

NCTimes.com

SAN DIEGO ---- An inquirer tossed this question at Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer: What if second-string running back Michael Turner got 25 or so carries in a game?

Before trainer James Collins was summoned for the smelling salts, Schottenheimer regained his wits. If Turner gets the ball that often, that means Pro Bowler LaDainian Tomlinson is hurt.

You sure you're OK, Coach?

"I don't want to get into that situation,'' Schottenheimer stressed. "But we are sure glad Michael is a San Diego Charger.''

There's no discounting Turner's worth. As Tomlinson's backup, the roly-poly Turner delivers a solid change of pace and white-hot production.

Turner's nickname is The Burner, and the Colts are still applying balm to the scorch marks he left in Indianapolis. The Colts were clinging to hopes of an undefeated season last December when Turner's late 83-yard touchdown dagger killed that notion in the Chargers' 26-17 triumph.

It was a run for the ages which seemingly grows better with age. It was a staple on ESPN, it's made the NFL Network rounds and the call of Turner's scoot by Chargers radio voice Josh Lewin was played at Ford Field during Super Bowl XL.

There's nothing small, though, about that memento.

"I will never forget it,'' said Turner, of the Chargers' longest scoring run since 1962. "It is something I can show my kids someday when I'm an old grandpa.''

While Turner has young legs, there's no kidding about this: He's Tomlinson's caddy, meaning his shots are few and far between.

Last year, Turner carried only 57 times, but it was good enough for a 5.7-yard average and three touchdowns. That's a spike from his rookie season, when he got the ball on 20 occasions.

"I'm just trying to get better every year, just trying to establish myself in this league, and I think I am doing a pretty good job of that,'' he said.

Job No. 1 for the Chargers is keeping Tomlinson fit and on the field. But when Tomlinson needs a blow, the wind of change presents Turner, a Windy City native.

What's uncanny about Turner his is looks and his look-out quickness. At 5-foot-10 and 237 pounds, Turner is constructed like a power runner. But Turner's speedometer isn't buried at single digits, meaning his giddy-up is up there.

"He doesn't look like a fast guy, but he runs fast ---- the Indianapolis Colts are fast and they couldn't catch him,'' Schottenheimer said.

Some speculate Turner should catch a break. Anchored behind a two-time Pro Bowler, Turner is often a Sunday afterthought.

"Yeah, you can look at it that way, but L.T. is such a great guy that he makes it easy to work with him,'' Turner said. "I just want to be there for him where he needs me and I hope he has confidence in me to get the job done.''

That he does.

"I have a lot of confidence in Michael,'' Tomlinson said. "His value to this team isn't really spoken about, but he could be a starter in this league very easily.''

Turner considers himself a backup in name only.

"I prepare myself as a starter,'' he said. "Every week I imagine myself being a starter on this team, even though I know it might not happen. But I prepare myself that way because I'm one play away. L.T. can get hurt any time. I don't wish that on him, but it is the nature of the game.''

Human nature has Schottenheimer praying against that scenario. Then again, Schottenheimer could at least turn to Turner.

"Michael has terrific patience,'' Schottenheimer said. "Watch him run ---- he kind of slides in there and then all of sudden it's 'boom' when he sees that hole.''

Schottenheimer is visualizing something else: a backfield featuring Tomlinson and Turner.

"That would be interesting,'' Schottenheimer said. "We fool around with it, so you never know.''

Schottenheimer hopes he never learns about a 25-carry game for Turner. That's something Turner would relish, although it takes a back seat to another goal.

"We are all about winning,'' he said. "I'll get my shot, my opportunity. I'm being patient right now.''

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you forgot this part. Turner is a good backup but he's exactly that a backup. Unfortunately for him he's behind the best back in the league but as long as LT is healthy he is their franchise and he is getting the ball. Yes, they may play with Turner in a few two back sets and he will get a couple carries but LT is the 1st, 2nd and 3rd back on this team until he retires.

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Yeah, Duh. We all know Turner is the backup. But you said "Injury is the only way he sees the field". That is obviously not where the coaching staff is heading with Turner this year. They know what they have in him and are devising ways to get him on the field with LT. That potentially makes Turner a flex option with alot of upside if something happens to LT.

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Banger said:

el-gato-grande said:

Banger said:

Sabertooth said:

I have rostered Turner in both my main leagues. I own LT2 in one and not the other. We have restrictive rosters, only allowing us to hold 4 running backs max, so that gives you some idea of how much I value the Burna.

I just think this is the year he gets a chance, whether that be because of injury or some type of situational stuff.

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'Burner' is a white-hot backup

By: JAY PARIS - Staff Writer

NCTimes.com

SAN DIEGO ---- An inquirer tossed this question at Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer: What if second-string running back Michael Turner got 25 or so carries in a game?

Before trainer James Collins was summoned for the smelling salts, Schottenheimer regained his wits. If Turner gets the ball that often, that means Pro Bowler LaDainian Tomlinson is hurt.

You sure you're OK, Coach?

"I don't want to get into that situation,'' Schottenheimer stressed. "But we are sure glad Michael is a San Diego Charger.''

There's no discounting Turner's worth. As Tomlinson's backup, the roly-poly Turner delivers a solid change of pace and white-hot production.

Turner's nickname is The Burner, and the Colts are still applying balm to the scorch marks he left in Indianapolis. The Colts were clinging to hopes of an undefeated season last December when Turner's late 83-yard touchdown dagger killed that notion in the Chargers' 26-17 triumph.

It was a run for the ages which seemingly grows better with age. It was a staple on ESPN, it's made the NFL Network rounds and the call of Turner's scoot by Chargers radio voice Josh Lewin was played at Ford Field during Super Bowl XL.

There's nothing small, though, about that memento.

"I will never forget it,'' said Turner, of the Chargers' longest scoring run since 1962. "It is something I can show my kids someday when I'm an old grandpa.''

While Turner has young legs, there's no kidding about this: He's Tomlinson's caddy, meaning his shots are few and far between.

Last year, Turner carried only 57 times, but it was good enough for a 5.7-yard average and three touchdowns. That's a spike from his rookie season, when he got the ball on 20 occasions.

"I'm just trying to get better every year, just trying to establish myself in this league, and I think I am doing a pretty good job of that,'' he said.

Job No. 1 for the Chargers is keeping Tomlinson fit and on the field. But when Tomlinson needs a blow, the wind of change presents Turner, a Windy City native.

What's uncanny about Turner his is looks and his look-out quickness. At 5-foot-10 and 237 pounds, Turner is constructed like a power runner. But Turner's speedometer isn't buried at single digits, meaning his giddy-up is up there.

"He doesn't look like a fast guy, but he runs fast ---- the Indianapolis Colts are fast and they couldn't catch him,'' Schottenheimer said.

Some speculate Turner should catch a break. Anchored behind a two-time Pro Bowler, Turner is often a Sunday afterthought.

"Yeah, you can look at it that way, but L.T. is such a great guy that he makes it easy to work with him,'' Turner said. "I just want to be there for him where he needs me and I hope he has confidence in me to get the job done.''

That he does.

"I have a lot of confidence in Michael,'' Tomlinson said. "His value to this team isn't really spoken about, but he could be a starter in this league very easily.''

Turner considers himself a backup in name only.

"I prepare myself as a starter,'' he said. "Every week I imagine myself being a starter on this team, even though I know it might not happen. But I prepare myself that way because I'm one play away. L.T. can get hurt any time. I don't wish that on him, but it is the nature of the game.''

Human nature has Schottenheimer praying against that scenario. Then again, Schottenheimer could at least turn to Turner.

"Michael has terrific patience,'' Schottenheimer said. "Watch him run ---- he kind of slides in there and then all of sudden it's 'boom' when he sees that hole.''

Schottenheimer is visualizing something else: a backfield featuring Tomlinson and Turner.

"That would be interesting,'' Schottenheimer said. "We fool around with it, so you never know.''

Schottenheimer hopes he never learns about a 25-carry game for Turner. That's something Turner would relish, although it takes a back seat to another goal.

"We are all about winning,'' he said. "I'll get my shot, my opportunity. I'm being patient right now.''

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you forgot this part. Turner is a good backup but he's exactly that a backup. Unfortunately for him he's behind the best back in the league but as long as LT is healthy he is their franchise and he is getting the ball. Yes, they may play with Turner in a few two back sets and he will get a couple carries but LT is the 1st, 2nd and 3rd back on this team until he retires.

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Yeah, Duh. We all know Turner is the backup. But you said "Injury is the only way he sees the field". That is obviously not where the coaching staff is heading with Turner this year. They know what they have in him and are devising ways to get him on the field with LT. That potentially makes Turner a flex option with alot of upside if something happens to LT.

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My bad, I didn't mean that literally he wouldn't see the field but just that his carries would be few and far between (3-5/game IMO) making him fairly worthless except in deeper leagues (unless LT is injured).That being said, it would be interesting seeing both of them on the field together. Pick your poison.

Man, if you're thinking about Turner as a flex option, you better be in a 24 team league.

Banger said:

Sabertooth said:

I have rostered Turner in both my main leagues. I own LT2 in one and not the other. We have restrictive rosters, only allowing us to hold 4 running backs max, so that gives you some idea of how much I value the Burna. I just think this is the year he gets a chance, whether that be because of injury or some type of situational stuff.

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you're an LT owner, clueless or both.

Chargers | Turner could be featured more in offense

Published Sat Sep 9 12:19:00 a.m. ET 2006

(KFFL) Kevin Acee, of the San Diego Union-Tribune, reports the San Diego Chargers could begin to feature more plays involving RB Michael Turner in the backfield along with RB LaDainian Tomlinson.

I hate the fact he'll be returning kickoffs now. Go find someone off the wire to do it. Hell, sign Koren Robinson & waive him if/when he's suspended.

brednbuddah said:

Banger said:

Sabertooth said:

I have rostered Turner in both my main leagues. I own LT2 in one and not the other. We have restrictive rosters, only allowing us to hold 4 running backs max, so that gives you some idea of how much I value the Burna. I just think this is the year he gets a chance, whether that be because of injury or some type of situational stuff.

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Injury is the only way he sees the field.

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you're an LT owner, clueless or both.

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man with a clue, what are your Turner predictions?

Banger said:

brednbuddah said:

Banger said:

Sabertooth said:

I have rostered Turner in both my main leagues. I own LT2 in one and not the other. We have restrictive rosters, only allowing us to hold 4 running backs max, so that gives you some idea of how much I value the Burna. I just think this is the year he gets a chance, whether that be because of injury or some type of situational stuff.

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you're an LT owner, clueless or both.

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man with a clue, what are your Turner predictions?

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I will answer that. Assuming that LT remains healthy all year and based on what we are hearing from the Chargers on MT's increased role, I would forecast his production to basically double this year:614 Ru128 Rec6 TDsBut, I think that is a flawed assumption because I believe Tomlinson will not remain healthy all year. I think he will miss at least a couple of games and he is at risk to miss more than that based on the wear and tear he has incurred to date. I don't wish that to happen, but I'd be remiss if I didn't put an upside tag on MT's value based on a ton of evidence that carries in the NFL eventually do take their toll.

I just wanted to hop on so I can say I did it while the thread was still a 1-pager. Go MT!!!

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I just wanted to hop on so I can say I did it while the thread was still a 1-pager. Go MT!!!

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Bump. 155 yards of total offense from the Burner today. At this rate, he will exceed even my projections. Jump on board now.

With each impressive performance, I'm wondering if a team is going to pony up to get this guy next year. I doubt it's a secret around the league that this guy is a big-time talent, but stuck behind the biggest-time RB there is.

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With each impressive performance, I'm wondering if a team is going to pony up to get this guy next year. I doubt it's a secret around the league that this guy is a big-time talent, but stuck behind the biggest-time RB there is.

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I sure hope so as I have him at league minimum in a keeper league. I am thinking Denver, Houston, Green Bay, NY Jets, or possibly Detroit.

Sabertooth said:

zamboni said:

With each impressive performance, I'm wondering if a team is going to pony up to get this guy next year. I doubt it's a secret around the league that this guy is a big-time talent, but stuck behind the biggest-time RB there is.

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I sure hope so as I have him at league minimum in a keeper league. I am thinking Denver, Houston, Green Bay, NY Jets, or possibly Detroit.

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Certainly some possibilities, but many of these teams may be drafting too high to forgo a #1 pick (and then some) that the Chargers will tender. On the flip side, Turner may benefit from a reasonable number of teams looking for a big-time RB, and may not be available in the draft.

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I will answer that. Assuming that LT remains healthy all year and based on what we are hearing from the Chargers on MT's increased role, I would forecast his production to basically double this year:

614 Ru

128 Rec

6 TDs

But, I think that is a flawed assumption because I believe Tomlinson will not remain healthy all year. I think he will miss at least a couple of games and he is at risk to miss more than that based on the wear and tear he has incurred to date. I don't wish that to happen, but I'd be remiss if I didn't put an upside tag on MT's value based on a ton of evidence that carries in the NFL eventually do take their toll.

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It's worth noting that in both cases this year Turner's production has come at the end of the half and/or end of the game when the game was already well in hand. LT was on the sidelines with a baseball cap. Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly a big fan of Turner and I have him handcuffed in most leagues where I have LT - but we have to keep this in perspective and remember remember he's behind one of the most complete and talented backs in the NFL. Now, obviously there is the element of wear and tear, but LT is still very young and he has NEVER missed a game (even when he had the ribs injury last year he played in every game). IF LT goes down, Turner has a lot of upside. The flawed assumption is in thinking LT WILL go down.

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Bump. 155 yards of total offense from the Burner today. At this rate, he will exceed even my projections. Jump on board now.

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Turner is great for a keeper or if you have LT but beyond that he won't get as many carries on a weekly basis as he has the last 2 weeks, they don't get to play the Raiders and the Titans every week!!

As I was watching the game yesterday with a friend of mine, I commented (being the Charger fan that I am) that it will be sad seeing Turner play for another team in a year or two. He really deserves to start somewhere.

MT is about as high quality a backup as I have seen in a long time. Chester Taylor and Lamont Jordan are not nearly as talented. Perhaps Duece is a better comparison when he was behind Ricky.

The real question is going to be whether and what will need to happen for MT to be signed or traded to another team so he can be a starter NEXT year. I am hoping LT stays healthy this year and shows no signs of slowing down. If he breaks down, there is no way SD is going to let MT slip away.

Maurile can give specifics, but I recall Turner's contract situation being such that there's a pretty good chance he's still a Charger next year, but will walk the year after that.

The real questions for keeper leagues are, will the chargers have the cap room to put the 1st and 3rd round tender offer on him? If they do is there a team out there willing to give up that much to get him? Is MT willing to play hardball durring the off season to force the Chargers to negotiate a deal for less?

Banger said:

Sabertooth said:

I have rostered Turner in both my main leagues. I own LT2 in one and not the other. We have restrictive rosters, only allowing us to hold 4 running backs max, so that gives you some idea of how much I value the Burna. I just think this is the year he gets a chance, whether that be because of injury or some type of situational stuff.

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YOU SOUNDED VERY SURE ABOUT THIS .

I'm the resident pimp on this board for Turner this year and I believe that the trade value question hasn't been significantly addressed. So Let me take a whack at it.

Yes, I believe Turner will see enough significant production where we will generate equal fantasy value to some backs in more obvious RBBC situations (e.g. Rhodes/Addai, Jones/Benson, Barlow/Blaylock, Dayne/Lundy, and possibly Denver on a bad day). I think I'm in the minority on that as most feel he won't see enough touches unless the Chargers are blowing out the other team. I respectfully disagree for reasons stated in one of threads referenced earlier (MT will be a 1,000 yard back).

WTS, his trade value will be at its peak now - whether its to the LT owner or someone else who covets him. They have a tough couple of games against very strong run defenses after the bye week (@ Baltimore and at home vs. Pittsburgh). After that, I see him being a very good flex option or a nice dual start for LT owners in the middle of the season and down the stretch. So, you have a window now to check his value in trade. If nobody offers something reasonable, then I'd wait until later in the season or hold onto him outright.

BTW, this is based on a redraft league. In keeper and dynasty situations, DO NOT RELEASE OR TRADE HIM unless you get something very stud-like in return. Turner is going to be a top 5 back inside of two years if you are willing to be patient and burn a roster spot to keep him.

[This post merged from another thread by Maurile Tremblay]

Is anybody still on this bandwagon? Turner's on my waiver wire and I'm tempted to grab him. Does anybody know why Marty reduced Turner's role lately?