I agree. Yes there were some dropped passes and some breakdowns on the OL - but most of his poor play was on him.This is about as bad a performance I have ever seen out of a QB. Wow..does he ever look raw. Vince looks like a HS QB out there today.
You can't blame it all on Young. That is just foolish.I agree. Yes there were some dropped passes and some breakdowns on the OL - but most of his poor play was on him.This is about as bad a performance I have ever seen out of a QB. Wow..does he ever look raw. Vince looks like a HS QB out there today.
He was awful. Period.That's what happens to a rookie QB when his team gets behind fast.He still had some great flashes.As with any rookie QB, he will have his good days and bad days.
I see Da Guru has found another black QB to bash.
Yeah, shocking. /sarcasm offSome of you pricks need to quit whining. Jesus christ he is a rookie facing one of the best Ds in the league.Not to mention he has one of the worst receiving corps in the league.I see Da Guru has found another black QB to bash.Wow, a rookie QB in his 5th or 6th game struggling? WHO WOULDA THUNK IT?
What does his race have to do with his poor performance? I just gave props to David Garrard.I see Da Guru has found another black QB to bash.
No way..let him talk his way out!:IBTL:And do so fast.
Do you think his turnovers had anything to do with his team getting behind?When do we see a good day? Dude is pulling a Ryan Leaf (or worse?) and getting off easy IMO.That's what happens to a rookie QB when his team gets behind fast.He still had some great flashes.As with any rookie QB, he will have his good days and bad days.
I didn't.You can't blame it all on Young. That is just foolish.I agree. Yes there were some dropped passes and some breakdowns on the OL - but most of his poor play was on him.This is about as bad a performance I have ever seen out of a QB. Wow..does he ever look raw. Vince looks like a HS QB out there today.
I don`t blame it all on Young, but he played very poorly today.Texas did not groom him well for the pro game.I didn't.You can't blame it all on Young. That is just foolish.I agree. Yes there were some dropped passes and some breakdowns on the OL - but most of his poor play was on him.This is about as bad a performance I have ever seen out of a QB. Wow..does he ever look raw. Vince looks like a HS QB out there today.
That's probably because the other two QB's on the Jags roster are black.What does his race have to do with his poor performance?I see Da Guru has found another black QB to bash.
I just gave props to David Garrard.
"Dude" has already tripled Ryan Leaf's rookie TD total in 4 less games.Do you think his turnovers had anything to do with his team getting behind?When do we see a good day? Dude is pulling a Ryan Leaf (or worse?) and getting off easy IMO.That's what happens to a rookie QB when his team gets behind fast.He still had some great flashes.As with any rookie QB, he will have his good days and bad days.
I see Da Guru has found another black QB to bash.
Just think if Timmy Chang made it...I see Da Guru has found another black QB to bash.Just think if there was an Arab QB?
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Time stamped before this post.I will paypal $1 to the first person not named Da Guru to find a thread where Da Guru has a manlove bashfest for a white QB.
I will paypal 5 dollars!Time stamped before this post.I will paypal $1 to the first person not named Da Guru to find a thread where Da Guru has a manlove bashfest for a white QB.
That's probably because the other two QB's on the Jags roster are black.What does his race have to do with his poor performance?I see Da Guru has found another black QB to bash.
I just gave props to David Garrard.
I'm pretty sure Mack Brown's paychecks don't come from the NFL.I don`t blame it all on Young, but he played very poorly today.Texas did not groom him well for the pro game.I didn't.You can't blame it all on Young. That is just foolish.I agree. Yes there were some dropped passes and some breakdowns on the OL - but most of his poor play was on him.This is about as bad a performance I have ever seen out of a QB. Wow..does he ever look raw. Vince looks like a HS QB out there today.
Totally agree..but when you play in a one look and run system, the adjustment time is going to be much greater.I'm pretty sure Mack Brown's paychecks don't come from the NFL.I don`t blame it all on Young, but he played very poorly today.Texas did not groom him well for the pro game.I didn't.You can't blame it all on Young. That is just foolish.I agree. Yes there were some dropped passes and some breakdowns on the OL - but most of his poor play was on him.This is about as bad a performance I have ever seen out of a QB. Wow..does he ever look raw. Vince looks like a HS QB out there today.
Yeah.............for this season.Him and Bush are equally worthless.
This is a ridiculous post......He is 2-4 as a starter on a young team with no offense.Do you think his turnovers had anything to do with his team getting behind?When do we see a good day? Dude is pulling a Ryan Leaf (or worse?) and getting off easy IMO.That's what happens to a rookie QB when his team gets behind fast.He still had some great flashes.As with any rookie QB, he will have his good days and bad days.
The Iron Sheik?I see Da Guru has found another black QB to bash.Just think if there was an Arab QB?
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The original post of this thread is correct. Young played about as badly as is possible. Could he have thrown 10 picks and wound up worse? Yeah, but it's nitpicking. He was the definition of terrible. What's the big problem with this?
Leaf-rookie 111 245 45.3% 1289 5.3/att 2TD 15INT : 3W-7L recordYoung-rookie 69 150 46% 762 5.1/att 5TD 7INT : 2W-4L recordyou're right.. ridiculous comparison.This is a ridiculous post......He is 2-4 as a starter on a young team with no offense.Do you think his turnovers had anything to do with his team getting behind?When do we see a good day? Dude is pulling a Ryan Leaf (or worse?) and getting off easy IMO.That's what happens to a rookie QB when his team gets behind fast.He still had some great flashes.As with any rookie QB, he will have his good days and bad days.
Comparing their attitude towards the game is the difference in night and day though.Leaf was a smuck that got pissed. Vince is a class act who wants to be the best.Leaf-rookie 111 245 45.3% 1289 5.3/att 2TD 15INT : 3W-7L recordYoung-rookie 69 150 46% 762 5.1/att 5TD 7INT : 2W-4L recordyou're right.. ridiculous comparison.This is a ridiculous post......He is 2-4 as a starter on a young team with no offense.Do you think his turnovers had anything to do with his team getting behind?When do we see a good day? Dude is pulling a Ryan Leaf (or worse?) and getting off easy IMO.That's what happens to a rookie QB when his team gets behind fast.He still had some great flashes.As with any rookie QB, he will have his good days and bad days.![]()
Rex Grossman 18-42 3 210 1 Carson Palmer 12-26 2 195 1Vince Young 15-36 3 163 1Everybody has a bad game, but Vince Young = Ryan LeafLeaf-rookie 111 245 45.3% 1289 5.3/att 2TD 15INT : 3W-7L recordYoung-rookie 69 150 46% 762 5.1/att 5TD 7INT : 2W-4L recordyou're right.. ridiculous comparison.This is a ridiculous post......He is 2-4 as a starter on a young team with no offense.Do you think his turnovers had anything to do with his team getting behind?When do we see a good day? Dude is pulling a Ryan Leaf (or worse?) and getting off easy IMO.That's what happens to a rookie QB when his team gets behind fast.He still had some great flashes.As with any rookie QB, he will have his good days and bad days.![]()
What else can you expect from racist ,black QBs that run haters?Rex Grossman 18-42 3 210 1 Carson Palmer 12-26 2 195 1Vince Young 15-36 3 163 1Everybody has a bad game, but Vince Young = Ryan LeafLeaf-rookie 111 245 45.3% 1289 5.3/att 2TD 15INT : 3W-7L recordYoung-rookie 69 150 46% 762 5.1/att 5TD 7INT : 2W-4L recordyou're right.. ridiculous comparison.This is a ridiculous post......He is 2-4 as a starter on a young team with no offense.Do you think his turnovers had anything to do with his team getting behind?When do we see a good day? Dude is pulling a Ryan Leaf (or worse?) and getting off easy IMO.That's what happens to a rookie QB when his team gets behind fast.He still had some great flashes.As with any rookie QB, he will have his good days and bad days.![]()
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Hell yes to that.I just hope they lose enough games to get Calvin Johnson.
VY was bad today, but in his defense, he faced a good D who plays their best while at home. This comparison is lame.Leaf-rookie 111 245 45.3% 1289 5.3/att 2TD 15INT : 3W-7L recordYoung-rookie 69 150 46% 762 5.1/att 5TD 7INT : 2W-4L recordyou're right.. ridiculous comparison.This is a ridiculous post......He is 2-4 as a starter on a young team with no offense.Do you think his turnovers had anything to do with his team getting behind?When do we see a good day? Dude is pulling a Ryan Leaf (or worse?) and getting off easy IMO.That's what happens to a rookie QB when his team gets behind fast.He still had some great flashes.As with any rookie QB, he will have his good days and bad days.![]()
Only complete and total morons thought that the intent of Texas was to groom him for the NFL. Texas groomed him to win a MNC and he did just that. Anyone with one iota of sense knew that he was an NFL project and that it is totally asinine to expect otherwise, yet we still get stupid threads like this one.Da Guru said:I don`t blame it all on Young, but he played very poorly today.Texas did not groom him well for the pro game.NorvilleBarnes said:I didn't.Slingblade said:You can't blame it all on Young. That is just foolish.NorvilleBarnes said:I agree. Yes there were some dropped passes and some breakdowns on the OL - but most of his poor play was on him.Da Guru said:This is about as bad a performance I have ever seen out of a QB. Wow..does he ever look raw. Vince looks like a HS QB out there today.
As a VY dynasty owner I was hoping the same thing!!Colin Dowling said:He'll need time, and he'll need someone on the playmaking end of a pass every once in a while. Bobby Wade? I just hope they lose enough games to get Calvin Johnson.
keep saying every week it was just a bad week. I'm saying where are the "good weeks?" At this point "bad games" are pretty much every week.you are comparing VY to Palmer and Grossman... but find my Leaf reference out of whack?Brewzers said:Rex Grossman 18-42 3 210 1 Carson Palmer 12-26 2 195 1matuski said:Leaf-rookie 111 245 45.3% 1289 5.3/att 2TD 15INT : 3W-7L recordYoung-rookie 69 150 46% 762 5.1/att 5TD 7INT : 2W-4L recordSproutDaddy said:This is a ridiculous post......He is 2-4 as a starter on a young team with no offense.matuski said:Do you think his turnovers had anything to do with his team getting behind?When do we see a good day?That's what happens to a rookie QB when his team gets behind fast.
He still had some great flashes.
As with any rookie QB, he will have his good days and bad days.
Dude is pulling a Ryan Leaf (or worse?) and getting off easy IMO.
you're right.. ridiculous comparison.![]()
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You are hoping that the best college WR is stuck with a pile af garbage like Vince Young? If you want to see what happens then, look at CJ's stats now and cut them in half. If Calvin even gets a feeling that TEN is going after him, he will stay in school. He doesn't need that kind of torture.Vince Young blows. Always has always will. Put HIM at WR and get a QB.As a VY dynasty owner I was hoping the same thing!!Colin Dowling said:He'll need time, and he'll need someone on the playmaking end of a pass every once in a while. Bobby Wade? I just hope they lose enough games to get Calvin Johnson.
I felt he belonged at WR as well until I had the chance to watch a his first games in the NFL... he is slow vs NFL speed. He does not have the impact on the game with his legs that he did at UT.You are hoping that the best college WR is stuck with a pile af garbage like Vince Young? If you want to see what happens then, look at CJ's stats now and cut them in half. If Calvin even gets a feeling that TEN is going after him, he will stay in school. He doesn't need that kind of torture.Vince Young blows. Always has always will. Put HIM at WR and get a QB.As a VY dynasty owner I was hoping the same thing!!Colin Dowling said:He'll need time, and he'll need someone on the playmaking end of a pass every once in a while. Bobby Wade? I just hope they lose enough games to get Calvin Johnson.
PS - to the poster saying it isn't fair to compare VY to Leaf based on attitude... I agree, but I didn't - I compared stats.keep saying every week it was just a bad week. I'm saying where are the "good weeks?" At this point "bad games" are pretty much every week.you are comparing VY to Palmer and Grossman... but find my Leaf reference out of whack?Brewzers said:Rex Grossman 18-42 3 210 1 Carson Palmer 12-26 2 195 1matuski said:Leaf-rookie 111 245 45.3% 1289 5.3/att 2TD 15INT : 3W-7L recordYoung-rookie 69 150 46% 762 5.1/att 5TD 7INT : 2W-4L recordSproutDaddy said:This is a ridiculous post......He is 2-4 as a starter on a young team with no offense.matuski said:Do you think his turnovers had anything to do with his team getting behind?When do we see a good day?That's what happens to a rookie QB when his team gets behind fast.
He still had some great flashes.
As with any rookie QB, he will have his good days and bad days.
Dude is pulling a Ryan Leaf (or worse?) and getting off easy IMO.
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see the season stats.. I'll use those over what actually are just "bad games" for Rex and Carson. I will bet Rex and carson come back with strong games in the near future (like next week), you wlling to say that with a straight face about VY?
You are the definition of WRONG!!!......................It's good to know you and Johnson are such good buddies.You are hoping that the best college WR is stuck with a pile af garbage like Vince Young? If you want to see what happens then, look at CJ's stats now and cut them in half. If Calvin even gets a feeling that TEN is going after him, he will stay in school. He doesn't need that kind of torture.Vince Young blows. Always has always will. Put HIM at WR and get a QB.As a VY dynasty owner I was hoping the same thing!!Colin Dowling said:He'll need time, and he'll need someone on the playmaking end of a pass every once in a while. Bobby Wade? I just hope they lose enough games to get Calvin Johnson.
The threads are similar except that Bush doesn't look as bad, and thus doesn't get as bad.Where are these threads for Bush after he rushes for negative yardage on double digit carries?Edit...I see the Bush thread. I don't see nearly the bashing there that I see in here though.