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What's the problem with Delhomme ? (1 Viewer)
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NFLJUNKEY
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I dumped him and Alex Smith 3 games ago and picked up Romo and Hass (owner got tired of waiting). I can't believe how much better my team looks now. I drafted Delhomme knowing he was a solid, yet cheap QB (auction draft) so I could go after LT. What a disappointment! I hung in there thanks to LT and the Baltimore D and now have an excellent chance at the playoffs. Kicking Delhomme to the curb was the best move I've made all year...
VaCatFan
Footballguy
His problem is the same as Deshaun Foster and DeAngelo Williams problems. The offensive line is playing, well, offensively. Add that to Dan Henning's play calling straight out of the early 90's and you pretty much have hit the nail on the head. There was no reason for the Panthers not to have run the ball at least 30 times if not more. Yet again, Dan Henning is unable to adjust at halftime and finish the game. So, there you have it. 50%OC play calling, 40% offensive line play, and the rest is on Delhomme himself.
maxwell1295
Footballguy
I'm about to drop him myself. I just don't know who I'm going to pick up to replace him....Leinart or Garcia. I already have Kitna and Favre anyway....
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
This is my take on why Delhomme has struggled...
First of all, he's not the type of QB that makes adjustments well as they unfold during a play. He's not a Brady, Manning or IMO Steve Young was great at this - being able to read the defense and adjust accordingly, spreading the ball around to whoever is open.
Delhomme was good before because he had a good running game in Stephen Davis who pounded the ball, which kept opposing defenses honest, which opened up more for Steve Smith. Foster is not the answer. He has proven to not be an every down back that can pound the ball play every play. DeAngelo is a good change of pace back, but he won't reach his potential unless he's getting 20-25 carries per game. Carolina has RB's that are more suited for counter tres, misdirection runs and toss sweeps. They are not a between the tackles, pound it out team and John Fox still runs them like they are.
The OL has suffered injuries this season and the pass rush gets to Delhomme in 2-3 seconds, which is just not enough time for him to make a decision, especially if he's not that good at adjusting on the fly. Throw in a non-existent TE game and Carolina all the sudden becomes a one-dimensional offense, because they can't successfully maintain a consistent running game which would alleviate the pass defense. What Delhomme is surviving on is great playmaking by Steve Smith, followed by mistakes given to them by the defense, whether that is a penalty or a miscoverage. IMO, Keyshawn Johnson should be HUGE in this offense especially if Carolina used more 3 WR sets. Smith and Drew Carter stretch the sides with speed and Keyshawn is open over the middle and underneath the coverage. If you notice, Carolina has a tremendous knack for having a scoring drive after they've just let up a go-ahead score. Why? Because they use more 3 WR sets and the RB's become more involved in the passing game. If this team realizes that they are a passing team they can use the pass to set up the run. The opposite of what they want to do, but it works.
Just my
First of all, he's not the type of QB that makes adjustments well as they unfold during a play. He's not a Brady, Manning or IMO Steve Young was great at this - being able to read the defense and adjust accordingly, spreading the ball around to whoever is open.
Delhomme was good before because he had a good running game in Stephen Davis who pounded the ball, which kept opposing defenses honest, which opened up more for Steve Smith. Foster is not the answer. He has proven to not be an every down back that can pound the ball play every play. DeAngelo is a good change of pace back, but he won't reach his potential unless he's getting 20-25 carries per game. Carolina has RB's that are more suited for counter tres, misdirection runs and toss sweeps. They are not a between the tackles, pound it out team and John Fox still runs them like they are.
The OL has suffered injuries this season and the pass rush gets to Delhomme in 2-3 seconds, which is just not enough time for him to make a decision, especially if he's not that good at adjusting on the fly. Throw in a non-existent TE game and Carolina all the sudden becomes a one-dimensional offense, because they can't successfully maintain a consistent running game which would alleviate the pass defense. What Delhomme is surviving on is great playmaking by Steve Smith, followed by mistakes given to them by the defense, whether that is a penalty or a miscoverage. IMO, Keyshawn Johnson should be HUGE in this offense especially if Carolina used more 3 WR sets. Smith and Drew Carter stretch the sides with speed and Keyshawn is open over the middle and underneath the coverage. If you notice, Carolina has a tremendous knack for having a scoring drive after they've just let up a go-ahead score. Why? Because they use more 3 WR sets and the RB's become more involved in the passing game. If this team realizes that they are a passing team they can use the pass to set up the run. The opposite of what they want to do, but it works.
Just my
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Wreckincrew
Footballguy
This is my take on why Delhomme has struggled...First of all, he's not the type of QB that makes adjustments well as they unfold during a play. He's not a Brady, Manning or IMO Steve Young was great at this - being able to read the defense and adjust accordingly, spreading the ball around to whoever is open.Delhomme was good before because he had a good running game in Stephen Davis who pounded the ball, which kept opposing defenses honest, which opened up more for Steve Smith. Foster is not the answer. He has proven to not be an every down back that can pound the ball play after play. DeAngelo is a good change of pace back, but he won't reach his potential unless he's getting 20-25 carries per game. Carolina has RB's that are more suited for counter tres, misdirection runs and toss sweeps. They are not a between the tackle, pound it out team and John Fox still runs them like thay are. The OL has suffered injuries this season and the pass rush gets to Delhomme in 2-3 seconds, which is just not enough time for him to make a decision, especially if he's not that good at adjusting on the fly. Throw in a non-existent TE game and Carolina all the sudden becomes a one-dimensional offense, because they can't successfully maintain a consistent running game which would alleviate the pass defense. What Delhomme is surviving on is great playmaking by Steve Smith, followed by mistakes given to them by the defense, whether that is a penalty or a miscoverage. IMO, Keyshawn Johnson should be HUGE in this offense especially if Carolina used more 3 WR sets. Smith and Drew Carter stretch the sides with speed and Keyshawn is open over the middle and underneath the coverage. If you notice, Carolina has a tremendous knack for having a scoring drive after they've just let up a go-ahead score. Why? Because they use more 3 WR sets and the RB's become more involved in the passing game. If this team realizes that they are a passing team they can use the pass to set up the run. The opposite of what they want to do, but it works. Just my
AeroFANatic
Footballguy
I have Delhomme and Aaron Brooks, and call me nuts, but I think Brooks makes a decent start this week at home vs HOUSTON.
Delhomme on MNF is always enticing, but Philly has a pretty stout pass D. But then again, so did Baltimore...and Delhomme torched them.
Talk me off a ledge. Dare I start Brooks over Jake this week?!?!
Delhomme on MNF is always enticing, but Philly has a pretty stout pass D. But then again, so did Baltimore...and Delhomme torched them.
Talk me off a ledge. Dare I start Brooks over Jake this week?!?!
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
I would still start Delhomme. That's not only Aaron Brooks we're talking about, it's the Raiders offense.I have Delhomme and Aaron Brooks, and call me nuts, but I think Brooks makes a decent start this week at home vs HOUSTON.Delhomme on MNF is always enticing, but Philly has a pretty stout pass D. But then again, so did Baltimore...and Delhomme torched them.
diesel7982
Footballguy
Didnt you guys get the memo that QBs named Jake with 2 "m"s in their last name weren't going to play well in 2006?
redman
Footballguy
Nice post, Wheelhouse. That explains a lot.Wheelhouse said:This is my take on why Delhomme has struggled...First of all, he's not the type of QB that makes adjustments well as they unfold during a play. He's not a Brady, Manning or IMO Steve Young was great at this - being able to read the defense and adjust accordingly, spreading the ball around to whoever is open.Delhomme was good before because he had a good running game in Stephen Davis who pounded the ball, which kept opposing defenses honest, which opened up more for Steve Smith. Foster is not the answer. He has proven to not be an every down back that can pound the ball play after play. DeAngelo is a good change of pace back, but he won't reach his potential unless he's getting 20-25 carries per game. Carolina has RB's that are more suited for counter tres, misdirection runs and toss sweeps. They are not a between the tackle, pound it out team and John Fox still runs them like thay are. The OL has suffered injuries this season and the pass rush gets to Delhomme in 2-3 seconds, which is just not enough time for him to make a decision, especially if he's not that good at adjusting on the fly. Throw in a non-existent TE game and Carolina all the sudden becomes a one-dimensional offense, because they can't successfully maintain a consistent running game which would alleviate the pass defense. What Delhomme is surviving on is great playmaking by Steve Smith, followed by mistakes given to them by the defense, whether that is a penalty or a miscoverage. IMO, Keyshawn Johnson should be HUGE in this offense especially if Carolina used more 3 WR sets. Smith and Drew Carter stretch the sides with speed and Keyshawn is open over the middle and underneath the coverage. If you notice, Carolina has a tremendous knack for having a scoring drive after they've just let up a go-ahead score. Why? Because they use more 3 WR sets and the RB's become more involved in the passing game. If this team realizes that they are a passing team they can use the pass to set up the run. The opposite of what they want to do, but it works. Just my
anborn
Footballguy
great post and from a fan in NC, right on. The only other problem with Delhomme, is that Dan Henning needs to wake up. His playcalling has been suspect over the past 2+ years, but last week was just attrocious. Fox needs to find himself a new OC. :(This is my take on why Delhomme has struggled...First of all, he's not the type of QB that makes adjustments well as they unfold during a play. He's not a Brady, Manning or IMO Steve Young was great at this - being able to read the defense and adjust accordingly, spreading the ball around to whoever is open.Delhomme was good before because he had a good running game in Stephen Davis who pounded the ball, which kept opposing defenses honest, which opened up more for Steve Smith. Foster is not the answer. He has proven to not be an every down back that can pound the ball play after play. DeAngelo is a good change of pace back, but he won't reach his potential unless he's getting 20-25 carries per game. Carolina has RB's that are more suited for counter tres, misdirection runs and toss sweeps. They are not a between the tackle, pound it out team and John Fox still runs them like thay are. The OL has suffered injuries this season and the pass rush gets to Delhomme in 2-3 seconds, which is just not enough time for him to make a decision, especially if he's not that good at adjusting on the fly. Throw in a non-existent TE game and Carolina all the sudden becomes a one-dimensional offense, because they can't successfully maintain a consistent running game which would alleviate the pass defense. What Delhomme is surviving on is great playmaking by Steve Smith, followed by mistakes given to them by the defense, whether that is a penalty or a miscoverage. IMO, Keyshawn Johnson should be HUGE in this offense especially if Carolina used more 3 WR sets. Smith and Drew Carter stretch the sides with speed and Keyshawn is open over the middle and underneath the coverage. If you notice, Carolina has a tremendous knack for having a scoring drive after they've just let up a go-ahead score. Why? Because they use more 3 WR sets and the RB's become more involved in the passing game. If this team realizes that they are a passing team they can use the pass to set up the run. The opposite of what they want to do, but it works. Just my
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MSULions
Footballguy
unfortunately, no. i drafted both of them!
fortunately, however, I also picked up Brees week 2 (went undrafted!) and Kitna and romo and have been fine since the first 4 games.
Exile
Footballguy
I don't know...but I have both and am sick of Delhomme enough to roll the dice this week with Cutler in a must-win-to-make-the-playoffs situation for me.
Frank Black
Footballguy
I didn't get that memo when I drafted the Jakes as my only 2QBs in SSL. :( I believe Delhomme is the problem with the Panthers this year. Unforunately, I can't remember when the lat time was when a QB pulled himself out of a funk mid-season and really turned things arond. Am I wrong to think that most struggling QBs are not able to turn things around late season?
Steve Smith is not getting wide open EVERY play. Delhomme looks for Steve Smith EVERY play. THere's your answer. All you had to do was watch the last horrific throw last week to see why he is sucking. The last person the ball should have been thrown to was Steve Smith in triple coverage.
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
Did you see Keyshawn motion to Jake at the LOS that nobody was covering him, yet he (Jake) was still convinced the throw was going Steve Smith's way. The defense knew it and saw it coming and effectively stopped it. A horrible mis-read on Jake's part there.
