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Mama Mcnabb Speaks (2 Viewers)

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H.K.

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Her quote on her son's website:

The win this week was great and I could actually say that's what I wanted for Christmas. Yes, now we have solidly beat the Cowboys with my son and without him. But I can hear you asking, mama McNabb what are you really thinking? Well here it is, the real deal. It's kind of bitter sweet for me as my son, the quarterback sits out on injured reserved watching the game during his rehab. I polled my family too and they feel the same. We want our team to win and even go to the Superbowl and win it in Miami especially if they continue to play as they have. But oh oh, if they win the Superbowl without my son, what would be the real outcome with the fans? Will they crucify him? Maybe, then the trade talks would begin. Off season madness, worse than last year's fiasco. But guess what, I guess I'll have to take the beating if it comes. I would have to hope that scenario of the madness would not happen or be that bad. Well let's wait and see. Bitter sweet.

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Interesting.....

 
H.K. said:
Her quote on her son's website:

The win this week was great and I could actually say that's what I wanted for Christmas. Yes, now we have solidly beat the Cowboys with my son and without him. But I can hear you asking, mama McNabb what are you really thinking? Well here it is, the real deal. It's kind of bitter sweet for me as my son, the quarterback sits out on injured reserved watching the game during his rehab. I polled my family too and they feel the same. We want our team to win and even go to the Superbowl and win it in Miami especially if they continue to play as they have. But oh oh, if they win the Superbowl without my son, what would be the real outcome with the fans? Will they crucify him? Maybe, then the trade talks would begin. Off season madness, worse than last year's fiasco. But guess what, I guess I'll have to take the beating if it comes. I would have to hope that scenario of the madness would not happen or be that bad. Well let's wait and see. Bitter sweet.

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Posted yesterday.
 
I don't think Mama McNabb needs to worry unless Garcia doesn't get too tired to play in the 4th quarter of the SB and leads them Philly on a game winning drive.

 
thayman said:
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I don't care if Garcia wins the Superbowl, McNabb is going to be the starter.
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That doesn't matter. What matters is what happens after that. It could get very ugly and Mama McNabb would be suicidal at that point.
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:bag: how could it get ugly?
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Umm, if they win the Superbowl with Garcia and Mcnabb comes back with his 57% ankle balls??? He's liked by about 65% of the fans now. If Garcia wins the Superbowl that would drop a good bit. Then after a couple bad games ugly would be an understatement.
 
Thought I read something recently (or maybe saw it on TV) that said Garcia was happy to be a back-up with a good team as opposed to a starter on a crappy one. Dunno if that was a quote or an obervation. Anyone else hearing similar things??

Of course, if Garcia DID win it all (stranger things have happened), it would sure make the off-season interesting...

 
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thayman said:
Slider said:
Phlash said:
I don't care if Garcia wins the Superbowl, McNabb is going to be the starter.
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That doesn't matter. What matters is what happens after that. It could get very ugly and Mama McNabb would be suicidal at that point.
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:bag: how could it get ugly?
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Umm, if they win the Superbowl with Garcia and Mcnabb comes back with his 57% ankle balls??? He's liked by about 65% of the fans now. If Garcia wins the Superbowl that would drop a good bit. Then after a couple bad games ugly would be an understatement.
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H.K. said:
Her quote on her son's website:

The win this week was great and I could actually say that's what I wanted for Christmas. Yes, now we have solidly beat the Cowboys with my son and without him. But I can hear you asking, mama McNabb what are you really thinking? Well here it is, the real deal. It's kind of bitter sweet for me as my son, the quarterback sits out on injured reserved watching the game during his rehab. I polled my family too and they feel the same. We want our team to win and even go to the Superbowl and win it in Miami especially if they continue to play as they have. But oh oh, if they win the Superbowl without my son, what would be the real outcome with the fans? Will they crucify him? Maybe, then the trade talks would begin. Off season madness, worse than last year's fiasco. But guess what, I guess I'll have to take the beating if it comes. I would have to hope that scenario of the madness would not happen or be that bad. Well let's wait and see. Bitter sweet.

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We might all think that his mom shouldn't make any comments at all, but if it was ok for her to comment on the season, what is wrong with what she said? I took this as - We hope the Eagles continue to win, even the Superbowl, but if they do it will be a little bitter sweet because Mcnabb wasn't involved and there will be an offseason of B.S about who should be the QB.What is wrong with the content of those comments? Seems like she is still rooting for the Eagles, knows the offseason would be tough for him, and just has concern for her son. Wow, that is terrible.

 
Slider said:
thayman said:
Slider said:
Phlash said:
I don't care if Garcia wins the Superbowl, McNabb is going to be the starter.
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That doesn't matter. What matters is what happens after that. It could get very ugly and Mama McNabb would be suicidal at that point.
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:excited: how could it get ugly?
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Umm, if they win the Superbowl with Garcia and Mcnabb comes back with his 57% ankle balls??? He's liked by about 65% of the fans now. If Garcia wins the Superbowl that would drop a good bit. Then after a couple bad games ugly would be an understatement.
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Hmm... 83% of people love random statistics you pull out of your ###. The Eagles boards I've been visiting have an overwhelming consensus that McNabb will and should be QB next year. People that hate on McNabb are a disgrace to Eagles fans (and thats saying alot). :excited:
 
scratcher said:
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thayman said:
Slider said:
Phlash said:
I don't care if Garcia wins the Superbowl, McNabb is going to be the starter.
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That doesn't matter. What matters is what happens after that. It could get very ugly and Mama McNabb would be suicidal at that point.
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:D how could it get ugly?
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Umm, if they win the Superbowl with Garcia and Mcnabb comes back with his 57% ankle balls??? He's liked by about 65% of the fans now. If Garcia wins the Superbowl that would drop a good bit. Then after a couple bad games ugly would be an understatement.
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Hmm... 83% of people love random statistics you pull out of your ###. The Eagles boards I've been visiting have an overwhelming consensus that McNabb will and should be QB next year. People that hate on McNabb are a disgrace to Eagles fans (and thats saying alot). :D
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You don't have to be a p rick defending your boy. I'm in sales around the area and talk to a lot of people. You can go to all the messageboards :rolleyes: you want. If you think Garcia winning the Superbowl wouldn't sway a ton of people around Philly you're nuts. Not sure why you pulled the "hate" out of your a ss either. But hey, maybe you're Wilma.
 
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I agree,i talked to plenty of ####### philly fans out here in philadelphia, and many are ape #### about Garcia, some laugh, some seriously love him. Tonight some philly fan remarked "McNabb is done, Jeff Garcia is our QB this season, maybe next season, thats all".....now this guy was a moron, but he embodies alot of the feelings shared by Many Philly fans.

Philly fans, as moronic as some are, will jump ship quickly, and thats a proven fact. I like McNabb, i think hes a good role model and was once a great player. Who knows what will happen out here in Philly though, people dont seem to care about the past, they just want a team that wins. Cant blame them for that. The fans arent the coaches, however, and I believe that McNabb will have every oppurtunity to regain the team when he returns from injury. If he doesnt perform by the end of 07, then he may have to start worrying.

 
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scratcher said:
Slider said:
thayman said:
Slider said:
Phlash said:
I don't care if Garcia wins the Superbowl, McNabb is going to be the starter.
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That doesn't matter. What matters is what happens after that. It could get very ugly and Mama McNabb would be suicidal at that point.
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:blackdot: how could it get ugly?
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Umm, if they win the Superbowl with Garcia and Mcnabb comes back with his 57% ankle balls??? He's liked by about 65% of the fans now. If Garcia wins the Superbowl that would drop a good bit. Then after a couple bad games ugly would be an understatement.
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Hmm... 83% of people love random statistics you pull out of your ###. The Eagles boards I've been visiting have an overwhelming consensus that McNabb will and should be QB next year. People that hate on McNabb are a disgrace to Eagles fans (and thats saying alot). ;)
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I guess I'm a big discgrace for being a hater, but the team is playing a lot better with Garcia than they were with McNabb. Now, that doesn't mean I think Garcia will be the starter next year. Right now, though, I'm glad we have him and I don't think we would have made the playoffs if McNabb hadn't gotten injured. He has been the league's poster boy, good guy, smiling faced, wonder guy for too long. He was a great qb, but as a fan I hate watching laugh, joke, and smile on the sideline after he just had a crucial pick. I also have to question his conditioning considering that it looked poor in the Superbowl and still looked awful in the TB game this year. I just hope that McNabb sees the fire that Garcia plays with, the intensity that McNabb had in the beginning of his career and he gets that back. If that doesn't happen, McNabb will still be the starter, but I don't like our chances. I think watching your 36 year old journeyman backup have more success than you were should send a message. Hopefully it does. Okay now I'm done with all of the disgraceful hating.
 
As an Eagles fan, I could care less about what may happen next year if Garcia leads us to a Super Bowl.....I will be too busy enjoying the Super Bowl win......

ANd to the poster who stated that only 65% of Eagles fans like McNabb anyway, you are dead wrong...it is al least in the 90%. Philly fans love McNabb.......plus Reid would never put McNabb in that situation next year...he just wouldn't bring Garcia back, since he's a free agent anyway at the end of the year.

 
McNabb is their QB. Plain and simple. It would be a great story if Garcia could get them far into the playoffs, or even Super Bowl. Anything is possible in the craptastic NFC. But overall, it's McNabb's team. There's no questions within that locker room...

 
Slider said:
scratcher said:
Slider said:
thayman said:
Slider said:
Phlash said:
I don't care if Garcia wins the Superbowl, McNabb is going to be the starter.
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That doesn't matter. What matters is what happens after that. It could get very ugly and Mama McNabb would be suicidal at that point.
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:confused: how could it get ugly?
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Umm, if they win the Superbowl with Garcia and Mcnabb comes back with his 57% ankle balls??? He's liked by about 65% of the fans now. If Garcia wins the Superbowl that would drop a good bit. Then after a couple bad games ugly would be an understatement.
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Hmm... 83% of people love random statistics you pull out of your ###. The Eagles boards I've been visiting have an overwhelming consensus that McNabb will and should be QB next year. People that hate on McNabb are a disgrace to Eagles fans (and thats saying alot). :football:
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You don't have to be a p rick defending your boy. I'm in sales around the area and talk to a lot of people. You can go to all the messageboards :rolleyes: you want. If you think Garcia winning the Superbowl wouldn't sway a ton of people around Philly you're nuts. Not sure why you pulled the "hate" out of your a ss either. But hey, maybe you're Wilma.
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How about his, I LIVE in the area (and not an Eagles fan) and I say your stats are full of ####. 65% approval for McNabb is laughably low. In fact, if it was less than 85% I'd be shocked. The 'people' you talk to are probably the vocal minority that listen to those jack-holes on WIP stir up crap all the the time.Listen dude, we know your irrational hate for McNabb is well documented. Yes the Eagles have been better since McNabb got hurt but that only because Reid got his head out of his ### and decided to run a more balanced offense and stop throwing 25+ yards deep every other passing play. They're going with higher percentage plays with Garcia, something Reid refused to do when McNabb was in there. That's helping to keep the offense on the field and the defense fresh.
 
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Deranged Hermit said:
Slider said:
scratcher said:
Slider said:
thayman said:
Slider said:
Phlash said:
I don't care if Garcia wins the Superbowl, McNabb is going to be the starter.
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That doesn't matter. What matters is what happens after that. It could get very ugly and Mama McNabb would be suicidal at that point.
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:angry: how could it get ugly?
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Umm, if they win the Superbowl with Garcia and Mcnabb comes back with his 57% ankle balls??? He's liked by about 65% of the fans now. If Garcia wins the Superbowl that would drop a good bit. Then after a couple bad games ugly would be an understatement.
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Hmm... 83% of people love random statistics you pull out of your ###. The Eagles boards I've been visiting have an overwhelming consensus that McNabb will and should be QB next year. People that hate on McNabb are a disgrace to Eagles fans (and thats saying alot). :confused:
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You don't have to be a p rick defending your boy. I'm in sales around the area and talk to a lot of people. You can go to all the messageboards :lmao: you want. If you think Garcia winning the Superbowl wouldn't sway a ton of people around Philly you're nuts. Not sure why you pulled the "hate" out of your a ss either. But hey, maybe you're Wilma.
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Listen dude, we know your irrational hate for McNabb is well documented. Yes the Eagles have been better since McNabb got hurt.
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Listen dude, climb back in your rowhouse. I don't hate and have never said such. What's irrational is your blind defense. Wilma, is that you???? :lmao:
 
Da Guru said:
If..and that is a big if..Garcia leads the Eagles to a SB win. Then he deserves a chance to repeat.
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McNabb is a far better QB than Garcia at this stage in each of their careers. That's why he'll remain the starter.If Steve McNair goes down and Kyle Boller leads the Ravens to a Super Bowl win, McNair will still be the starter next year. He's a better QB.
 
Slider said:
Deranged Hermit said:
Slider said:
scratcher said:
Slider said:
thayman said:
Slider said:
Phlash said:
I don't care if Garcia wins the Superbowl, McNabb is going to be the starter.
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That doesn't matter. What matters is what happens after that. It could get very ugly and Mama McNabb would be suicidal at that point.
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:lmao: how could it get ugly?
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Umm, if they win the Superbowl with Garcia and Mcnabb comes back with his 57% ankle balls??? He's liked by about 65% of the fans now. If Garcia wins the Superbowl that would drop a good bit. Then after a couple bad games ugly would be an understatement.
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Hmm... 83% of people love random statistics you pull out of your ###. The Eagles boards I've been visiting have an overwhelming consensus that McNabb will and should be QB next year. People that hate on McNabb are a disgrace to Eagles fans (and thats saying alot). :banned:
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You don't have to be a p rick defending your boy. I'm in sales around the area and talk to a lot of people. You can go to all the messageboards ;) you want. If you think Garcia winning the Superbowl wouldn't sway a ton of people around Philly you're nuts. Not sure why you pulled the "hate" out of your a ss either. But hey, maybe you're Wilma.
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Listen dude, we know your irrational hate for McNabb is well documented. Yes the Eagles have been better since McNabb got hurt.
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Listen dude, climb back in your rowhouse. I don't hate and have never said such. What's irrational is your blind defense. Wilma, is that you???? :D
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Bull ####, you've bashed McNabb in every thread I've read since last year. Even when he was arguably the league MVP at the half way point this year you still picked him apart. I'd dig up the threads, but frankly i have better things to do.If Reid called this offense like this all year and left the big plays to two or three a game than the Eagles would have the East wrapped up already. however, for what ever reason, Reid desides to heave the ball every other play when McNabb is in instead of controling the clock.
 
Maybe because Mcnabb has no medium game or touch?

Funny the team looks the most together after he goes down. And a BACKUP comes in. You can chirp all about the 5 times a game they run it more. Marty is quoted as saying the running was in the plans all year and actually started to pickup while McNabb was still the QB. What you choose to do is ignore the team for the last 5 years and give all the credit to McNabb. Now he's gone and you want to act like the whole world changed and that's why the Eagles are winning. Yep, they just threw away the playbook and started over.

I'm done with you though. It's clear we'll never agree. And I don't even remember seeing deranged hermit before but thanks for remembering my posts. That says a lot....

 
smokin018 said:
As an Eagles fan, I could care less about what may happen next year if Garcia leads us to a Super Bowl.....I will be too busy enjoying the Super Bowl win......

ANd to the poster who stated that only 65% of Eagles fans like McNabb anyway, you are dead wrong...it is al least in the 90%. Philly fans love McNabb.......plus Reid would never put McNabb in that situation next year...he just wouldn't bring Garcia back, since he's a free agent anyway at the end of the year.
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I think this is the key to the whole issue. If Garcia wins the Super Bowl, he would be due a big raise. I think there will be a few teams that will offer him more money than the Eagles will. They have enough money tied up at QB already.Do I think Garcia is better than McNabb? No - but Garcia plays with a fire that McNabb will never have. McNabb is too fragile inside. He doesn't take to any criticism well and has had hurt feelings since draft day. I think it's something that he has never completely recovered from. I also think that he didn't handle the TO thing as well as he could have. I also think the team responds better to Garcia. There seems to be a perception among the players that McNabb is an organization guy rather than a team guy.

McNabb will be back next season and will be the starter. Just don't see anything else happening. That still leaves us in better shape than most of the other teams in the NFL.

Willie

 
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I fail to see what is so controversial or noteworthy about this story, especially when considering the source.

As for Garcia "deserving a raise" if he led the team to the Super Bowl, if I was the Eagles I'd be more than happy to let another team make that mistake. Garcia is an excellent backup who is benefitting from a good, veteran (and healthy) offense around him to help him make plays. To say that he's better than McNabb would be like saying Frank Reich was better than Jim Kelly based upon his improbable comeback win against the Oilers in the playoffs.

It would be better for the Eagles to let Garcia go to another team after a Super Bowl appearance/win anyway just to avoid the distraction of the feather-headed Eagles fans agitating for a QB controversy.

 
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Eagles, Super Bowl? Talk about a huge fantasy. Give me a break. Maybe if they had Marky Mark on the field. He looked good in that movie. He can hit and score.

 
Deranged Hermit said:
Slider said:
scratcher said:
Slider said:
thayman said:
Slider said:
Phlash said:
I don't care if Garcia wins the Superbowl, McNabb is going to be the starter.
Click to expand...
That doesn't matter. What matters is what happens after that. It could get very ugly and Mama McNabb would be suicidal at that point.
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:confused: how could it get ugly?
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Umm, if they win the Superbowl with Garcia and Mcnabb comes back with his 57% ankle balls??? He's liked by about 65% of the fans now. If Garcia wins the Superbowl that would drop a good bit. Then after a couple bad games ugly would be an understatement.
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Hmm... 83% of people love random statistics you pull out of your ###. The Eagles boards I've been visiting have an overwhelming consensus that McNabb will and should be QB next year. People that hate on McNabb are a disgrace to Eagles fans (and thats saying alot). :football:
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You don't have to be a p rick defending your boy. I'm in sales around the area and talk to a lot of people. You can go to all the messageboards :rolleyes: you want. If you think Garcia winning the Superbowl wouldn't sway a ton of people around Philly you're nuts. Not sure why you pulled the "hate" out of your a ss either. But hey, maybe you're Wilma.
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How about his, I LIVE in the area (and not an Eagles fan) and I say your stats are full of ####. 65% approval for McNabb is laughably low. In fact, if it was less than 85% I'd be shocked. The 'people' you talk to are probably the vocal minority that listen to those jack-holes on WIP stir up crap all the the time.Listen dude, we know your irrational hate for McNabb is well documented. Yes the Eagles have been better since McNabb got hurt but that only because Reid got his head out of his ### and decided to run a more balanced offense and stop throwing 25+ yards deep every other passing play. They're going with higher percentage plays with Garcia, something Reid refused to do when McNabb was in there. That's helping to keep the offense on the field and the defense fresh.
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:headbang: :confused: :goodposting:
 
Slider said:
Maybe because Mcnabb has no medium game or touch? Funny the team looks the most together after he goes down. And a BACKUP comes in. You can chirp all about the 5 times a game they run it more. Marty is quoted as saying the running was in the plans all year and actually started to pickup while McNabb was still the QB. What you choose to do is ignore the team for the last 5 years and give all the credit to McNabb. Now he's gone and you want to act like the whole world changed and that's why the Eagles are winning. Yep, they just threw away the playbook and started over. I'm done with you though. It's clear we'll never agree. And I don't even remember seeing deranged hermit before but thanks for remembering my posts. That says a lot....
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Good point, but I look at the Eagles as being one of the most complete teams in the NFL. I would probably only put the Patriots up there with them, as being a team that can lose one or two, or 3 of their top stars/leaders and they can still put a competitive team out of the field.
 
Your dead on Hermit.

The playcalling has everything to do with Garcia's success. Also, I don't see Garcia going anywhere to start. I think he's even said so. Just look at his careers at Cleveland and Detroit. He's happy behind that big O-line in Philly and I dont see him going anywhere.

 
Hamstring said:
redman said:
Hamstring said:
Eagles, Super Bowl? Talk about a huge fantasy. Give me a break. Maybe if they had Marky Mark on the field. He looked good in that movie. He can hit and score.
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Who in the NFC is guaranteed to beat the Eagles in the playoffs? :blackdot:
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bears are better, have been all year. Iggles are the flavor of the week.
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The Bears are better where? They're a good team to be sure, but they're not as dominating as their record might suggest. I need to see Rex Grossman play knucklehead-free football through the playoffs before I stop thinking of him as a liability. I could easily envision a hot Eagles team knocking them off.
 
Sinrman said:
McNabb is their QB. Plain and simple. It would be a great story if Garcia could get them far into the playoffs, or even Super Bowl. Anything is possible in the craptastic NFC. But overall, it's McNabb's team. There's no questions within that locker room...
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First of all Mcnabb=Danny WhiteA quarterback that has always had a great team around him, but can not win the big one.
 
scratcher said:
Your dead on Hermit.The playcalling has everything to do with Garcia's success. Also, I don't see Garcia going anywhere to start. I think he's even said so. Just look at his careers at Cleveland and Detroit. He's happy behind that big O-line in Philly and I dont see him going anywhere.
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Hmm, was it that great balance again today? The freakin 3rd stringer ran the system with backups and put up 67% with 3TD's and 300+ yards. This team is much better off without #5. I would CPep him.
 
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He's liked by about 65% of the fans now.
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BTW, for those saying that Philly fans want McNabb out of there. Here is a poll on the Eagles forum (need signup to view) that shows over 88% stand behind #5.
He is our guy, until he retires [ 201 ] ** [88.16%]

Im fine with him for now...until something better comes along [ 8 ] ** [3.57%]

I want to trade him, and have Garcia start [ 5 ] ** [2.23%]

None of the above...but I want McNabb gone [ 9 ] ** [4.02%]

I loathe McNabb [ 3 ] ** [1.34%]
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http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index...howtopic=415313
 
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'marinolives13' date='Dec 31 2006, 06:31 PM' post='6134562']

First of all Mcnabb=Danny White

A quarterback that has always had a great team around him, but can not win the big one.
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:nerd: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 
scratcher said:
Slider said:
He's liked by about 65% of the fans now.
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BTW, for those saying that Philly fans want McNabb out of there. Here is a poll on the Eagles forum (need signup to view) that shows over 88% stand behind #5.
He is our guy, until he retires [ 201 ] ** [88.16%]

Im fine with him for now...until something better comes along [ 8 ] ** [3.57%]

I want to trade him, and have Garcia start [ 5 ] ** [2.23%]

None of the above...but I want McNabb gone [ 9 ] ** [4.02%]

I loathe McNabb [ 3 ] ** [1.34%]
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http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index...howtopic=415313
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Don't you know those statistics are meaningless? :mellow:
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You don't have to be a p rick defending your boy. I'm in sales around the area and talk to a lot of people. You can go to all the messageboards :popcorn: you want.
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