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Rank the Top 25 RBs PPR considering all the movement (1 Viewer)

rzrback77

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What does the pool think of all the RB movement? Rank top 25 RBs in PPR leagues.

 
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I do not consider myself the expert AND was hoping to develop a Shark Pool Consensus, but here goes.....

1) Tomlinson - that I am sure of

2) S Jackson

3) Larry Johnson

4) Westbrook

5) Frank Gore

6) Reggie Bush

7) S Alexander

8) Maroney

9) Willie Parker

10) Addai

11) Thomas Jones

12) Rudi Johnson

13) Travis Henry

14) Benson

15) McGahee

16) Edge James

17) Portis

18) Ronnie Brown

19) Ahman Green

20) C Taylor

21) L Jordan

22) Caddilac Williams

23) T Bell

24) Jacobs

25) Jamal Lewis

I think there will be a lot of VARIATION in the rankings after the top three

 
rzrback77 said:
I do not consider myself the expert AND was hoping to develop a Shark Pool Consensus, but here goes.....1) Tomlinson - that I am sure of2) S Jackson3) Larry Johnson4) Westbrook5) Frank Gore6) Reggie Bush - no way (plus McAllister is there)7) S Alexander - bump up 4,5 area8) Maroney - behind parker and addai9) Willie Parker10) Addai11) Thomas Jones - bump down12) Rudi Johnson13) Travis Henry - bump down14) Benson15) McGahee - bump up maybe 10-1116) Edge James 17) Portis - should be 6-7 range 18) Ronnie Brown 19) Ahman Green20) C Taylor21) L Jordan22) Caddilac Williams23) T Bell24) Jacobs25) Jamal LewisI think there will be a lot of VARIATION in the rankings after the top three
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rb1 a 21-L.Tomlinson SD

rb2 a 39-S.Jackson STL

rb3 a 37-S.Alexander SEA

rb4 a 27-L.Johnson KC

rb5 a 29-J.Addai IND

rb6 a 21-F.Gore SF

rb7 a 36-B.Westbrook PHI

rb8 a 39-W.Parker PIT

rb9 a 26-C.Portis WAS

rb10 a 20-T.Henry DEN

rb11 a 32-R.Johnson CIN

rb12 arec 25-R.Bush NO

rb13 a 32-E.James ARI

rb14 a 23-R.Brown MIA

rb15 a 39-L.Maroney NE

rb16 a 21-W.McGahee BAL

rb17 ab 26-D.McAllister NO

rb18 a 29-C.Taylor MIN

rb19 a 20-T.Jones NYJ

rb20 ab 32-M.Jones-Drew JAC

rb21 a 34-L.Jordan OAK

rb22 a 24-C.Williams TB

rb23 ab 24-M.Barber DAL

rb24 ab 34-D.Williams CAR

rb25 a 32-C.Benson CHI

rb26 a 25-L.White TEN

rb27 a 30-A.Green HOU

rb28 ab 28-F.Taylor JAC

rb29 a 26-T.Bell DET

rb30 ab 32-J.Norwood ATL

rb31 ab 31-J.Lewis CLE

rb32 ab 27-B.Jacobs NYG

rb33 ab 28-W.Dunn ATL

rb34 ab 21-J.Jones DAL

 
thanks for sharing your list. I don't start to project until after the June 1 cuts, but some things to consider:

1) I will probably have Portis and Brown a bit higher on my list. I see them fighting it out for Top 10 at worst

2) I still think Deuce is a Top 15 RB. with horn out, you will see more of the same Thunder and Lightning in NO. He will definitely be ahead of J. Lewis, L. jordan, T. Bell, and Jacobs (to name a few)

3) AP and Lynch have yet to be drafted. Their impact could be much greater than those at the bottom of your list

 
Portis rankings look to be all over the board from various "expert" drafts I've seen...he could be value in many drafts.

 
I appreciate all the comments and feed-back and I will respond as necessary,

BUT I really prefer that respondents post their top 25 RBs so that we all can get a feel for the expected VARIATION in the rankings.

:kicksrock:

 
HobbesAB said:
thanks for sharing your list. I don't start to project until after the June 1 cuts, but some things to consider:1) I will probably have Portis and Brown a bit higher on my list. I see them fighting it out for Top 10 at worst2) I still think Deuce is a Top 15 RB. with horn out, you will see more of the same Thunder and Lightning in NO. He will definitely be ahead of J. Lewis, L. jordan, T. Bell, and Jacobs (to name a few)3) AP and Lynch have yet to be drafted. Their impact could be much greater than those at the bottom of your list
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Very true about Lynch and AP, but looking for thoughts now. Good point about Deuce McAllister. Bush probably too high, even in PPR which is his best format.
 
1. LT

2. LJ

3. Rudi

4. Alexander

5. Portis

6. S. Jackson

7. Gore

8. Mcgahee

9. T.Jones

10. Henry

11. Parker

12. Westbrook

13. Maroney

14. Benson

15. Chester Taylor

16. R.Brown

17. T.Bell

18. Caddy Williams

19. Bush

20. A.Green

21. Jones Drew

22. L.White

23. Addai

24. J.Lewis

25. James

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26. L.Jordan

27. Norwood

28. Dunn

29. D. Williams

30. J.Jones

 
1. LT

2. LJ

3. Jackson

4. Benson :banned:

5. Gore

6. Portis

7. Alexander

8. Henry

9. Rudi

10. Carnell Williams

11. Thomas Jones

12. Addai

13. Barber III

14. Maroney

 
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Purely off the cuff:

1. LT2

2. SJax

3. LJ

4. Westy :lmao:

5. Gore

6. SA

7. Rudi

8. Addai

9. Portis

10. MB3 :confused:

12. Maroney

12. Bush

13. McGahee

14. FWP

15. Ronnie Brown

16. Benson

17. MJD

18. Edge

19. Deuce

20. Chester Taylor

21. Reuben Droughns (in GB) :whistle:

22. De. Williams (not much from Foster, but enough to make him RB2/3 material)

23. THenry (in RBBC for sure)

24. LenDale White

25. L.Jordan

26. TJones (also strong RBBC here)

27. Cadillac Williams

28. Ahman Green

29. J.Lewis

30. Tatum Bell (with some KJones this year)

31. Dunn

32. Norwood

Remember this is a PPR list, so pass-catchers go up (Westy, Gore), pure runners go down (SA, Rudi).

I emphasized feature backs first, then committee / RBBC guys next. I expect Henry and TJones to be fully in a committee situation.

 
1. L.Tomlinson SD

2. S.Jackson STL

3. L.Johnson KC

4. B.Westbrook PHI

5. C.Portis WAS

6. S.Alexander SEA

7. R. Bush NO

8. L.Maroney NE

9. J.Addai IND

10. F.Gore SF

11. W.Parker PIT

12. R.Johnson CIN

13. W.McGahee BAL

14. A.Green HOU

15. T.Jones NYJ

16. R.Brown MIA

17. C.Williams TB

18. E.James ARI

19. T.Henry DEN

20. C.Benson CHI

21. D.McAllister NO

22. C.Taylor MIN

23. M.Jones-Drew JAC

24. D.Williams CAR

25. T.Bell DET

 
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#1 LaDainian Tomlinson

#2 Steven Jackson

#3 Larry Johnson

#4 Brian Westbrook

-

#5 Frank Gore :tumbleweed:

#6 Shaun Alexander

#7 Joseph Addai

#8 Clinton Portis

#9 Reggie Bush

-

#10 Rudi Johnson

#11 Maurice Drew :tumbleweed:

#12 Marion Barber III :tumbleweed:

#13 Chester Taylor :D

#14 Laurence Maroney

#15 Willie Parker

#16 Deuce McAllister

#17 Ronnie Brown

-

#18 Edgerrin James

#19 Travis Henry

#20 Cadillac Williams

#21 LaMont Jordan

#22 Willis McGahee

#23 Thomas Jones

#24 Tatum Bell

-

#25 Ahman Green

#26 Fred Taylor

#27 Adrian Peterson (obviously have to see where he ends up)

#28 LenDale White

#29 Jamal Lewis

#30 DeAngelo Williams

 
I don't claim to be an expert at PPR by any means since I rarely play it, but it seems some are totally ignoring it when making these lists.

 
LT

Sjax

LJ

Westy

Salex

Gore

Bush

Addai

Portis

Maroney

Williep

Rudi

Henry

Chester

Edge

MJD

T.Jones

R.Brown

Willis

Caddy

Benson

Deuce

DeAngelo

Lamont

MB3

Jacobs

A.Green

LenDale

Jamal

Dunn

Norwood

 
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1 St. Jax

2 lt

3 Lj

...

4 Maroney

5 Ronnie Brown

6 Addai

7 Alexander

8 Caddy

.....

9 MaGahee

10 Westbrook

11 Gore

12 Bush

13 Willie

14 Rudi

15 t Jones

16 Benson

.....

17 Portis

18 Jones Drew

19 Chester T

20 Henry

21 Pederson

22 BarberIII

.....

23 LenDale

24 Norwood

25 Edge

 
Consensus thus far......

1)Tomlinson

2)S Jackson

3)L Johnson

4)S Alexander

5)Westbrook

6)Frank Gore

7)Addai

8)Portis

9)Rudi Johnson

10)Maroney

11)Reggie Bush

12)Willie Parker

13)McGahee

14)Ronnie Brown

15)Travis Henry

16)Thomas Jones

17)C Taylor

18)Edge James

19)Benson

20)MJ Drew

21)Caddilac Williams

22)M Barber

23)Deuce McAllister

24)Ahman Green

25)L Jordan

 
Yo peeps...Bush finished 9th last year in ppr, you really expect a drop off this year??? Some one actually had him in the 20s???

 
I'll have a go at this, though I've never played PPR.

LT............2 elite PPR backs

SJax

LJ.................2 elite runners where lack of PPR doesn't hurt them too much

SA

Westbrook............. strong PPR backs

Bush

KJ

Gore............strong runners

Portis

Parker

Jones-Drew

Rudi

Henry..........2nd rounders

McGahee

Maroney

Addai

TJ

R. Brown

C. Taylor

Benson

Deuce

Caddy

Edge

Barber

Green

 
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rzrback77 said:
Consensus thus far......1)Tomlinson2)S Jackson3)L Johnson4)S Alexander5)Westbrook6)Frank Gore7)Addai8)Portis9)Rudi Johnson10)Maroney11)Reggie Bush12)Willie Parker13)McGahee14)Ronnie Brown15)Travis Henry16)Thomas Jones17)C Taylor18)Edge James19)Benson20)MJ Drew21)Caddilac Williams22)M Barber23)Deuce McAllister24)Ahman Green25)L Jordan
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Sniffer notes - MJD seems to drop alot, wasn't fred healthy last year? People do not believe in Benson yet. Portis doesn't seems as undervalued as Lhucks said. Reggie Bush? Given this was ppr rankings, one staffer left him out of his top14 (herd), that's all he listed and JeffP at 12 seems too low.Is Addai offically overvalued? or is it due to his O? and he's borderline top 5?
 
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LHUCKS said:
Portis rankings look to be all over the board from various "expert" drafts I've seen...he could be value in many drafts.
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I will target him in all drafts. The Betts factor (way overblown IMO) is letting a top 5 back fall to the end of the 1st/early 2nd.
 
In leagues with a few guppies that always go by the previous years stats.....RB's that I will be targeting as my #2 or #3 RB that I believe will represent good value: Benson, R.Brown, C.Williams, & M.Barber.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Banger said:
LHUCKS said:
Portis rankings look to be all over the board from various "expert" drafts I've seen...he could be value in many drafts.
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I will target him in all drafts. The Betts factor (way overblown IMO) is letting a top 5 back fall to the end of the 1st/early 2nd.
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Are you a beleiver in Campbell? True he didn't hurt Betts numbers. Is betts considered a "cheap" handcuff for re-draft?
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I doubt he will be cheap because some will see the 1100 yards that he rushed for and will take a shot at him hoping for a RBBC or Portis injury. I don't really know what the think of Campbell at this point. He seemed fine, nothing jaw dropping nor anything horrible in the few games I saw him.
 
salmonstud said:
In leagues with a few guppies that always go by the previous years stats.....RB's that I will be targeting as my #2 or #3 RB that I believe will represent good value: Benson, R.Brown, C.Williams, & M.Barber.
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at this point Barber looks like a steal but I think he will continue to rise in the ranks throughout the offseason.
 
salmonstud said:
In leagues with a few guppies that always go by the previous years stats.....RB's that I will be targeting as my #2 or #3 RB that I believe will represent good value: Benson, R.Brown, C.Williams, & M.Barber.
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Is the guppy move to chase the next big thing, or to use previous stats?In any event, I'm not big on Benson, but if he's your #3, he's a good risk. I'd be happy with Brown or Caddy as my RB2. MB3 I see all over the place, probably not a true value in all leagues.
 
Sort of stunned that Benson is not making the top 25-30 of so many. I realize his value is hurt in PPR, but I still think he should be cracking the top 25.

Also, with the new coaching in OAK, I think Jordan has the potential to have a solid year. That o-line is bad, but the offense can't get much worse than last year. When you bring in Shoop as o-coordinator to IMPROVE your offense, your offense is clearly in shambles. I just think things have to improve on that front in 07.

 
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bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
rzrback77 said:
Consensus thus far......1)Tomlinson2)S Jackson3)L Johnson4)S Alexander5)Westbrook6)Frank Gore7)Addai8)Portis9)Rudi Johnson10)Maroney11)Reggie Bush12)Willie Parker13)McGahee14)Ronnie Brown15)Travis Henry16)Thomas Jones17)C Taylor18)Edge James19)Benson20)MJ Drew21)Caddilac Williams22)M Barber23)Deuce McAllister24)Ahman Green25)L Jordan
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Sniffer notes - MJD seems to drop alot, wasn't fred healthy last year?
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I think MJD is definitely very difficult to put a value on right now. With Taylor coming back and Jones apparently returning to health, it appears that the masses may have soured on MJD's prospects going forward. I honestly did not watch much of MJD, so am reliant on what others have to think. Also, I find Travis Henry and Thomas Jones movement pretty interesting. Check their rankings compared to the recent consensus and it is apparent that their values have skyrocketed!
 
goodyear pimps said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
rzrback77 said:
Consensus thus far......1)Tomlinson2)S Jackson3)L Johnson4)S Alexander5)Westbrook6)Frank Gore7)Addai8)Portis9)Rudi Johnson10)Maroney11)Reggie Bush12)Willie Parker13)McGahee14)Ronnie Brown15)Travis Henry16)Thomas Jones17)C Taylor18)Edge James19)Benson20)MJ Drew21)Caddilac Williams22)M Barber23)Deuce McAllister24)Ahman Green25)L Jordan
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Sniffer notes - MJD seems to drop alot, wasn't fred healthy last year?
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I think MJD is definitely very difficult to put a value on right now. With Taylor coming back and Jones apparently returning to health, it appears that the masses may have soured on MJD's prospects going forward. I honestly did not watch much of MJD, so am reliant on what others have to think. Also, I find Travis Henry and Thomas Jones movement pretty interesting. Check their rankings compared to the recent consensus and it is apparent that their values have skyrocketed!
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MJD just seems like a perfect compliment back but not the guy to get 300+ carries in a year. Never had more than 200 at UCLA, had 166 last year in Jacksonville. Can see them trying to keep him at 200 for the forseeable future.
 
Colin Dowling said:
10. Carnell Williams
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I know you've been high on Caddy for some time, Colin, but curious on your thoughts on him in the top 10. Granted, the offense can't get any worse, but he still stands to lose goal line touches to Alstott and 3rd down duty/receptions to Pittman.
 
Those who think McGahee will finish ahead of R Brown really need to check into the McGahee to Baltimore thread for education.

 
fruity pebbles said:
goodyear pimps said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
rzrback77 said:
Consensus thus far......1)Tomlinson2)S Jackson3)L Johnson4)S Alexander5)Westbrook6)Frank Gore7)Addai8)Portis9)Rudi Johnson10)Maroney11)Reggie Bush12)Willie Parker13)McGahee14)Ronnie Brown15)Travis Henry16)Thomas Jones17)C Taylor18)Edge James19)Benson20)MJ Drew21)Caddilac Williams22)M Barber23)Deuce McAllister24)Ahman Green25)L Jordan
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Sniffer notes - MJD seems to drop alot, wasn't fred healthy last year?
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I think MJD is definitely very difficult to put a value on right now. With Taylor coming back and Jones apparently returning to health, it appears that the masses may have soured on MJD's prospects going forward. I honestly did not watch much of MJD, so am reliant on what others have to think. Also, I find Travis Henry and Thomas Jones movement pretty interesting. Check their rankings compared to the recent consensus and it is apparent that their values have skyrocketed!
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MJD just seems like a perfect compliment back but not the guy to get 300+ carries in a year. Never had more than 200 at UCLA, had 166 last year in Jacksonville. Can see them trying to keep him at 200 for the forseeable future.
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Couldn't the same be said about Reggie Bush?
 
zamboni said:
Colin Dowling said:
10. Carnell Williams
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I know you've been high on Caddy for some time, Colin, but curious on your thoughts on him in the top 10. Granted, the offense can't get any worse, but he still stands to lose goal line touches to Alstott and 3rd down duty/receptions to Pittman.
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Williams is tricky for me to rank, too. Last year there were 100 RB recepts in TB, and Caddy got 30 of them (14 GP). He only caught 20 in the same amount of games as a rookie, so the trend is positive and Pittman is 33 or 34 this season, too. Problem is, Caddy has a career YPR of 5.5, Pittman's is 8.2. That's a pretty big difference, not sure what all the factors may be to account for the difference.
 
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goodyear pimps said:
fruity pebbles said:
goodyear pimps said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
rzrback77 said:
Consensus thus far......1)Tomlinson2)S Jackson3)L Johnson4)S Alexander5)Westbrook6)Frank Gore7)Addai8)Portis9)Rudi Johnson10)Maroney11)Reggie Bush12)Willie Parker13)McGahee14)Ronnie Brown15)Travis Henry16)Thomas Jones17)C Taylor18)Edge James19)Benson20)MJ Drew21)Caddilac Williams22)M Barber23)Deuce McAllister24)Ahman Green25)L Jordan
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Sniffer notes - MJD seems to drop alot, wasn't fred healthy last year?
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I think MJD is definitely very difficult to put a value on right now. With Taylor coming back and Jones apparently returning to health, it appears that the masses may have soured on MJD's prospects going forward. I honestly did not watch much of MJD, so am reliant on what others have to think. Also, I find Travis Henry and Thomas Jones movement pretty interesting. Check their rankings compared to the recent consensus and it is apparent that their values have skyrocketed!
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MJD just seems like a perfect compliment back but not the guy to get 300+ carries in a year. Never had more than 200 at UCLA, had 166 last year in Jacksonville. Can see them trying to keep him at 200 for the forseeable future.
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Couldn't the same be said about Reggie Bush?
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Yes... but with reggie you need to add in the 60+ catches as well.
 
1. LT

2. S Jackson

3. Westbrook

4. LJ

5. Portis

6. Addai

7. Parker

8. Gore

9. Bush

10. Alexander

11. Jones Drew

12. Maroney

13. R Brown

14. R Johnson

15. Henry

16. Edge

17. Cadillac

18. Benson

19. M Barber

20. McGahee

21 . T Jones

22. L Jordan

23. A Green

24. Dunn

25. Jacobs

 
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mlball77 said:
Sort of stunned that Benson is not making the top 25-30 of so many. I realize his value is hurt in PPR, but I still think he should be cracking the top 25.

Also, with the new coaching in OAK, I think Jordan has the potential to have a solid year. That o-line is bad, but the offense can't get much worse than last year. When you bring in Shoop as o-coordinator to IMPROVE your offense, your offense is clearly in shambles. I just think things have to improve on that front in 07.
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Looks like Lamont Jordan may be splitting carries this year. 7.5 over 2 years isn't really starter $, but that's more than a pure backup would get too.
 
I have a 12 team PPR 1 UTIL redraft with non FBG members the day of the NFL draft which is likely before most sites publish their 2007 rankings.

I am almost positive the Colts will bring in another RB probably a draftee to RBBC with Addai.

Norwood seems undervalued especially in a PPR and seems a great breakout candidate.

I am torn on MB3 and would like to hear why Jeff thinks he's a RB1.

I will likely not try to own Benson, LenDale, and TJones unless the value is great.

MJD is absolutely a safe RB2 with upside.

Henry should be strong but could be very overvalued especially in a PPR let alone the fact he is one strike away from a full year suspension.

I would hesitate to put any of the rookie RB's in the top 25 perhaps around 20 at this early juncture.

Going back to my draft in picking 2nd I am leaning SJax and then looking at some combo of the top WR's or Gates in Rounds 2-3 and then picking up RBBC upside types in 4-5 perhaps even a MB3 or Norwould could drop that far. The only caveat to that of course is if the non RB run starts early and a legit RB drops. That would give me something like SJax, CJ, Fitz, MB3, Norwood needing a TE, QB, and depth pending how values change over the next 50 days. I would think I could round out my lineup with something like Crumpler/Shockey, VY/Bulger, and/or a top DT before going for depth and sleepers.

Looking at a middling spot according to this a team MIGHT be able to swing Gore and Bush/FWP and at 3-4 load up with say Gates and Walker if not any sliding RB's for their UTIL. I'd hate to be near the end and taking Rudi and Henry in this format although the guy picking 3rd gets LJ if I go SJax. In conclusion I would want to be in the top 3 or right in the middle but not near the back this year so far.

 
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H.K. said:
zamboni said:
Colin Dowling said:
10. Carnell Williams
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I know you've been high on Caddy for some time, Colin, but curious on your thoughts on him in the top 10. Granted, the offense can't get any worse, but he still stands to lose goal line touches to Alstott and 3rd down duty/receptions to Pittman.
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Williams is tricky for me to rank, too. Last year there were 100 RB recepts in TB, and Caddy got 30 of them (14 GP). He only caught 20 in the same amount of games as a rookie, so the trend is positive and Pittman is 33 or 34 this season, too. Problem is, Caddy has a career YPR of 5.5, Pittman's is 8.2. That's a pretty big difference, not sure what all the factors may be to account for the difference.
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I think the receptions are less of a deal than Alstott vulturing TDs. A-Train is pretty ancient, but still can probably ram it in about 6 or 7 times from the one-yard line.
 
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I find the absence of Kevin Jones in basically all rankings curious. Obvisouly, people must be assuming that either the injury causes him to miss at least 3-4 games or the addition of Tatum Bell means true 50/50 RBBC. My thought on those items:

1. All news seems to indicate that Jones is on schedule to return next year, so if nothnig else, discounting 3-4 games for him at this time seems a little conservative.

2. Bell never proved he could catch or pass block in his time in Denver which is key to getting time in Martz's offense. Yes, Bell will get some touches, but Detroit needed insurance and another solid back period. If KJ is healthy, I see him getting plenty of work.

I'm sure everyone's "rankings" wil change as more information becomes available, but right now I would have him in my top 25 for sure with plenty of upside.

;)

 
matuski said:
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Couldn't the same be said about Reggie Bush?
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Yes... but with reggie you need to add in the 60+ catches as well.

And with MJD you have to add 50+ receptions. Your point? If you believe Bush would have between 60-70 recs. then MJD will have far more value. If you believe as I that Bush will have 90+ receptions then he is a shoe in to be a top 10 RB in PPR.

 
1. Tomlinson

2. S. Jackson

3. LJ

4. Westbrook

5. Bush

6. Gore

7. Parker

8. Portis

9. Alexander

10. Addai

11. K.Jones (IF healthy for opener)

12. Maroney

13. Henry

14. R Brown

15. R Johnson

16. MJ Drew

17. Benson

18. Cadillac

19. M Barber

20. T Jones

21. Dunn (Norwood gets the shot?)

22. Morency

23. McGahee

24. A Green

25. Edge/LenDale/Jamal

 
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Ariakis said:
I will likely not try to own Benson, LenDale, and TJones unless the value is great.
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I understand the sentiment (and agree) with regard to Benson/Lendale but why Jones? He's proven that he can be a good starting rb, they had nearly the same # of attempts as Chicago did last year, and they have a young and improving line. He's a good wr and Pennington is good at the dumpoff.
 
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