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jeter23

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I know many of you do not appreciate ESPN or their "experts" but they are the largest sports media outlet and over the next two weeks, there will be many guests being interviewed each day in relation to the NFL draft.

Anytime someone is interviewed about the draft I will post a summary here.

 
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Sportsbash - April 16th

Redskins on the clock, Ryan O'Halleran (sp?) from Washington Times

* Skins would like to trade out of the pick, but it is not likely at this point. They are not getting concrete offers. They would like to move down to the middle of the 1st and a 2nd rounder as well. They currently pick 6th and then 143rd.

* There is a lot of conjecture at this point. The unknown of Oakland and Detroit is holding up other teams from trading. They hope that Quinn will fall to 6, so oher teams may want to move into that spot. Minnesota or Miami might like to move up in that case.

* If they keep the pick, it could be Okoye from Louisville. Landry is gaining momentum as well.

Broncos on the clock, Bill Williamson, Denver Post

* Will be looking at DE first and are hoping for Carriker. Moss would be their 2nd choice and they would look at Spencer if both are gone.

* There have been some talks about moving up for an impact player. That is what they are after. They already have 3 this year with Bly, Graham and Henry.

* Their record last year was a fluke and they are not that many players away.

* They have already tried to move up, talking with the Lions.

* Shanny said he didn't like talking to possible draft picks so he wouldn't tip off other teams as to what they are thinking. They did not speak to Cutler last year prior to picking him.

* DJ Williams can be moved over and they may sign a vet and draft a LB. David Harris in the 2nd is a possibility.

* Cutler is looking great and people are very optimistic. They have brought in some good weapons to help him.

* How will they address WR? May take someone in the draft, even Ginn if other options are taken. Ginn would help in 2 spots.

 
Herd - April 17

* Colin begins by spending a few minutes patting himself on the back, as usual.

* There is a speculation that Tampa Bay will try and trade up to be sure they get CJ2. Reports are that they have offered their entire day 1 draft (4 picks in the first three rounds) to move up to the #1 overall pick.

* Colin says more picks are better than higher picks in general. Gives you room for error.

* Bucs are desperate and manic. Aging D, no clear starter at QB, average skill players. They cannot afford to give up picks for a WR. Historically, WRs do not break into the NFL and have a big impact.

* Gruden has too much influence with the draft picks. He is 10 games under .500 since making the Super Bowl.

* Both McShay and Kiper have CJ2 falling to TB anyway, why trade up?

 
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Herd - April 17

* Colin begins by spending a few minutes patting himself on the back, as usual.

* There is a speculation that Tampa Bay will try and trade up to be sure they get CJ2. Reports are that they have offered their entire day 1 draft (4 picks in the first three rounds) to move up to the #1 overall pick.

* Colin says more picks are better than higher picks in general. Gives you room for error.

* Bucs are desperate and manic. Aging D, no clear starter at QB, average skill players. They cannot afford to give up picks for a WR. Historically, WRs do not break into the NFL and have a big impact.

* Gruden has too much influence with the draft picks. He is 10 games under .500 since making the Super Bowl.

* Both McShay and Kiper have CJ2 falling to TB anyway, why trade up?
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Is this direct from Cowherd? No offense...and appreciate the other summaries...but quoting Colin Cowherd is not interesting to anyone, I wouldn't think.
 
gump said:
jeter23 said:
Herd - April 17

* Colin begins by spending a few minutes patting himself on the back, as usual.

* There is a speculation that Tampa Bay will try and trade up to be sure they get CJ2. Reports are that they have offered their entire day 1 draft (4 picks in the first three rounds) to move up to the #1 overall pick.

* Colin says more picks are better than higher picks in general. Gives you room for error.

* Bucs are desperate and manic. Aging D, no clear starter at QB, average skill players. They cannot afford to give up picks for a WR. Historically, WRs do not break into the NFL and have a big impact.

* Gruden has too much influence with the draft picks. He is 10 games under .500 since making the Super Bowl.

* Both McShay and Kiper have CJ2 falling to TB anyway, why trade up?
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Is this direct from Cowherd? No offense...and appreciate the other summaries...but quoting Colin Cowherd is not interesting to anyone, I wouldn't think.
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Even after typing it all out, I almost deleted it. Yes, it is from Cowherd directly, although he did mentin "sources." At the beginning of the segment, it sounded like they were going to have someone on to talk about the Bucs. Instead, CC just talked the whole time. I went ahead and posted it, but I agree with you as far as its value.
 
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Herd - April 17

* Colin begins by spending a few minutes patting himself on the back, as usual.

* There is a speculation that Tampa Bay will try and trade up to be sure they get CJ2. Reports are that they have offered their entire day 1 draft (4 picks in the first three rounds) to move up to the #1 overall pick.

* Colin says more picks are better than higher picks in general. Gives you room for error.

* Bucs are desperate and manic. Aging D, no clear starter at QB, average skill players. They cannot afford to give up picks for a WR. Historically, WRs do not break into the NFL and have a big impact.

* Gruden has too much influence with the draft picks. He is 10 games under .500 since making the Super Bowl.

* Both McShay and Kiper have CJ2 falling to TB anyway, why trade up?
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If the bolded part is true, the Raiders have to seriously consider that.
 
jeter23 said:
gump said:
jeter23 said:
Herd - April 17

* Colin begins by spending a few minutes patting himself on the back, as usual.

* There is a speculation that Tampa Bay will try and trade up to be sure they get CJ2. Reports are that they have offered their entire day 1 draft (4 picks in the first three rounds) to move up to the #1 overall pick.

* Colin says more picks are better than higher picks in general. Gives you room for error.

* Bucs are desperate and manic. Aging D, no clear starter at QB, average skill players. They cannot afford to give up picks for a WR. Historically, WRs do not break into the NFL and have a big impact.

* Gruden has too much influence with the draft picks. He is 10 games under .500 since making the Super Bowl.

* Both McShay and Kiper have CJ2 falling to TB anyway, why trade up?
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Is this direct from Cowherd? No offense...and appreciate the other summaries...but quoting Colin Cowherd is not interesting to anyone, I wouldn't think.
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Even after typing it all out, I almost deleted it. Yes, it is from Cowherd directly, although he did mentin "sources." At the beginning of the segment, it sounded like they were going to have someone on to talk about the Bucs. Instead, CC just talked the whole time. I went ahead and posted it, but I agree with you as far as its value.
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I don't mean to sound unappreciative...I just can't stand the guy and don't think he brings anything to the table of worth...and clutters up what is otherwise a great thread... :no:
 
gump said:
jeter23 said:
gump said:
jeter23 said:
Herd - April 17

* Colin begins by spending a few minutes patting himself on the back, as usual.

* There is a speculation that Tampa Bay will try and trade up to be sure they get CJ2. Reports are that they have offered their entire day 1 draft (4 picks in the first three rounds) to move up to the #1 overall pick.

* Colin says more picks are better than higher picks in general. Gives you room for error.

* Bucs are desperate and manic. Aging D, no clear starter at QB, average skill players. They cannot afford to give up picks for a WR. Historically, WRs do not break into the NFL and have a big impact.

* Gruden has too much influence with the draft picks. He is 10 games under .500 since making the Super Bowl.

* Both McShay and Kiper have CJ2 falling to TB anyway, why trade up?
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Is this direct from Cowherd? No offense...and appreciate the other summaries...but quoting Colin Cowherd is not interesting to anyone, I wouldn't think.
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Even after typing it all out, I almost deleted it. Yes, it is from Cowherd directly, although he did mentin "sources." At the beginning of the segment, it sounded like they were going to have someone on to talk about the Bucs. Instead, CC just talked the whole time. I went ahead and posted it, but I agree with you as far as its value.
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I don't mean to sound unappreciative...I just can't stand the guy and don't think he brings anything to the table of worth...and clutters up what is otherwise a great thread... :no:
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No worries, I am with you. Notice my first comment of that summary. :yes:
 
Yenrub said:
jeter23 said:
Herd - April 17

* Colin begins by spending a few minutes patting himself on the back, as usual.

* There is a speculation that Tampa Bay will try and trade up to be sure they get CJ2. Reports are that they have offered their entire day 1 draft (4 picks in the first three rounds) to move up to the #1 overall pick.
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If the bolded part is true, the Raiders have to seriously consider that.
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They would have to grab that. Herd sounded like the manic one though.
 
Chaos Commish said:
Yenrub said:
jeter23 said:
Herd - April 17

* Colin begins by spending a few minutes patting himself on the back, as usual.

* There is a speculation that Tampa Bay will try and trade up to be sure they get CJ2. Reports are that they have offered their entire day 1 draft (4 picks in the first three rounds) to move up to the #1 overall pick.
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If the bolded part is true, the Raiders have to seriously consider that.
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They would have to grab that. Herd sounded like the manic one though.
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:mellow:
 
Chaos Commish said:
Yenrub said:
jeter23 said:
Herd - April 17

* Colin begins by spending a few minutes patting himself on the back, as usual.

* There is a speculation that Tampa Bay will try and trade up to be sure they get CJ2. Reports are that they have offered their entire day 1 draft (4 picks in the first three rounds) to move up to the #1 overall pick.
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If the bolded part is true, the Raiders have to seriously consider that.
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They would have to grab that. Herd sounded like the manic one though.
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Not that I'm a slave to the famous Jimmy Johnson chart used by the NFL, but I read an article somewhere today (sorry, you'll have to find the link yourself) that said the four TB picks (1st, two 2nds, and a 3rd) don't add up point-wise to the Raiders 1st overall.That said, I agree they would be wise to do this deal and I believe it will happen.

 
Couch Potato said:
Chaos Commish said:
Yenrub said:
jeter23 said:
Herd - April 17

* Colin begins by spending a few minutes patting himself on the back, as usual.

* There is a speculation that Tampa Bay will try and trade up to be sure they get CJ2. Reports are that they have offered their entire day 1 draft (4 picks in the first three rounds) to move up to the #1 overall pick.
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If the bolded part is true, the Raiders have to seriously consider that.
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They would have to grab that. Herd sounded like the manic one though.
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Not that I'm a slave to the famous Jimmy Johnson chart used by the NFL, but I read an article somewhere today (sorry, you'll have to find the link yourself) that said the four TB picks (1st, two 2nds, and a 3rd) don't add up point-wise to the Raiders 1st overall.That said, I agree they would be wise to do this deal and I believe it will happen.
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I read that on PFT. I think the difference was 130 points.I don't think 130 points is that much of a difference, when talking about picks up in this area.

I also don't think that PFT considered the fact that the trade they read about on YahooSports might not have been the exact offer the Bucs made, if they made one. PFT was nice enough to include an even more ridiculous offer in their little blurb. SOmething about all of this years picks, and a 1st next year.

I think the Raiders would do this deal.

I don't think the Bucs are seriously considering giving the Raiders their first 4 picks.

I think it's a fun thing to talk about, but man, this rumor spread like wildfire. I really do believe it is John Murphy over at Yahoo trying to drum up readership.

 
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Yenrub said:
jeter23 said:
Herd - April 17

* Colin begins by spending a few minutes patting himself on the back, as usual.

* There is a speculation that Tampa Bay will try and trade up to be sure they get CJ2. Reports are that they have offered their entire day 1 draft (4 picks in the first three rounds) to move up to the #1 overall pick.

* Colin says more picks are better than higher picks in general. Gives you room for error.

* Bucs are desperate and manic. Aging D, no clear starter at QB, average skill players. They cannot afford to give up picks for a WR. Historically, WRs do not break into the NFL and have a big impact.

* Gruden has too much influence with the draft picks. He is 10 games under .500 since making the Super Bowl.

* Both McShay and Kiper have CJ2 falling to TB anyway, why trade up?
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If the bolded part is true, the Raiders should have flown in to Tampa to shake on it before the Bucs brass sobered up.
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The Bucs will not be stupid enough to do that (I hope).

I was hearing local radio in tampa bay today and they talked a lot about Joe Thomas being the guy the Bucs pick. It seems that Gruden has talked and hyped everyone except for J Thomas, so the local radio guys assumed that that is the guy the Bucs want.

What do we need more WR or OL? thats a no brainer.

 
gump said:
jeter23 said:
gump said:
jeter23 said:
Herd - April 17

* Colin begins by spending a few minutes patting himself on the back, as usual.

* There is a speculation that Tampa Bay will try and trade up to be sure they get CJ2. Reports are that they have offered their entire day 1 draft (4 picks in the first three rounds) to move up to the #1 overall pick.

* Colin says more picks are better than higher picks in general. Gives you room for error.

* Bucs are desperate and manic. Aging D, no clear starter at QB, average skill players. They cannot afford to give up picks for a WR. Historically, WRs do not break into the NFL and have a big impact.

* Gruden has too much influence with the draft picks. He is 10 games under .500 since making the Super Bowl.

* Both McShay and Kiper have CJ2 falling to TB anyway, why trade up?
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Is this direct from Cowherd? No offense...and appreciate the other summaries...but quoting Colin Cowherd is not interesting to anyone, I wouldn't think.
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Even after typing it all out, I almost deleted it. Yes, it is from Cowherd directly, although he did mentin "sources." At the beginning of the segment, it sounded like they were going to have someone on to talk about the Bucs. Instead, CC just talked the whole time. I went ahead and posted it, but I agree with you as far as its value.
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I don't mean to sound unappreciative...I just can't stand the guy and don't think he brings anything to the table of worth...and clutters up what is otherwise a great thread... :lmao:
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Not to Hijack but how can you not like Colin, he absolutely cracks me up.
 
Sportsbash - April 17th

Keith Kidd- Scounts Inc.

* Teams are very anxious in preparation for the draft.

* Oakland Raiders biggest need is QB. Pathetic offense last year and the scheme was a bigger problem than the players. Offensive system was outdated. Now, inexperience is a problem at QB.

* They are already chaging what they ask the QB to do in the offense (get the ball out of his hand sooner, get out of the pocket more often).

* QB is the way they will likely go with.

* If they do not take a QB, they could trade for McCown, or sign CPepp, assuming he is cut.

* Thinks the QB class is good enough that they can choose a QB and be set for 10 years, although he says he had the same thoughts about Tim Couch years ago.

* Miami- How close are the Dolphins to being good?

* They should be much improved on the D, but have a long way to go on offense. Many questions at QB, a new coach are issues.

* Trent Green is a good fit there. He is a stop gap guy that gives them a chance to compete and win.

* KC- How playoff savvy are the Chiefs with Huard at QB?

* Huard is not starter caliber, but did have some success there last year. He did get replaced by Green t the end of the season.

 
Sportsbash - April 17th

Armando Salguero, Miami Herald

Dolphins on the clock

* Green is ready to be traded to Miami, but KC is still asking for too much. They are asking for a 2nd and Miami is offering a 7th. Should end with a mid-round pick this year and a conditional '08 pick.

* Both teams are motivated to get the deal done.

* What are the chances that Miami could package some of their 9 picks to move up and draft Quinn? Teams would likely want an '08 1st or '07 2nd along with the 9th pick to move up.

* Cleo Lemon is currently the starter and they are in trouble at the QB spot.

* If they do acquire a QB, will they trade CPepp? Tere would likely not be any teams interested and he would be released.

Adam Teicher, KC Star

Chiefs on the clock

* It would be hard to see Green as a Chief this year, whether he is traded or not. If no trade, he would be released.

* It is not a given that Huard will be the starter. His prediction is that Croyle will win the job.

* They would like to give LJ less carries, but KC is addicted to Larry Johnson. They would like to give Bennett or a rookie more carries.

* They will go D with their 1st round pick. Many predict a WR for them, but they don't put as much emphasis at that spot as other teams. They will draft a CB in the 1st.

 
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Sportsbash - April 17th

Keith Kidd- Scounts Inc.

* Teams are very anxious in preparation for the draft.

* Oakland Raiders biggest need is QB. Pathetic offense last year and the scheme was a bigger problem than the players. Offensive system was outdated. Now, inexperience is a problem at QB.

* They are already chaging what they ask the QB to do in the offense (get the ball out of his hand sooner, get out of the pocket more often).

* QB is the way they will likely go with.

* If they do not take a QB, they could trade for McCown, or sign CPepp, assuming he is cut.

* Thinks the QB class is good enough that they can choose a QB and be set for 10 years, although he says he had the same thoughts about Tim Couch years ago.

* Miami- How close are the Dolphins to being good?

* They should be much improved on the D, but have a long way to go on offense. Many questions at QB, a new coach are issues.

* Trent Green is a good fit there. He is a stop gap guy that gives them a chance to compete and win.

* KC- How playoff savvy are the Chiefs with Huard at QB?

* Huard is not starter caliber, but did have some success there last year. He did get replaced by Green t the end of the season.
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From your notes, it appears he got off track after a bit and forgot he was supposed to be discussing the draft.
 
Couch Potato said:
jeter23 said:
Sportsbash - April 17th

Keith Kidd- Scounts Inc.

* Teams are very anxious in preparation for the draft.

* Oakland Raiders biggest need is QB. Pathetic offense last year and the scheme was a bigger problem than the players. Offensive system was outdated. Now, inexperience is a problem at QB.

* They are already chaging what they ask the QB to do in the offense (get the ball out of his hand sooner, get out of the pocket more often).

* QB is the way they will likely go with.

* If they do not take a QB, they could trade for McCown, or sign CPepp, assuming he is cut.

* Thinks the QB class is good enough that they can choose a QB and be set for 10 years, although he says he had the same thoughts about Tim Couch years ago.

* Miami- How close are the Dolphins to being good?

* They should be much improved on the D, but have a long way to go on offense. Many questions at QB, a new coach are issues.

* Trent Green is a good fit there. He is a stop gap guy that gives them a chance to compete and win.

* KC- How playoff savvy are the Chiefs with Huard at QB?

* Huard is not starter caliber, but did have some success there last year. He did get replaced by Green t the end of the season.
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From your notes, it appears he got off track after a bit and forgot he was supposed to be discussing the draft.
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I think the host was to blame for that. He had two NFL segments and both were supposed to focus on th draft. He talked mostly about Trent Green though. :wall:
 
Unless a sportsmedia or media personality from CBS, FOX or NBC end up getting arrested or saying something 'controversial' ESPN should be all over two things in the coming weeks: The NBA Playoffs and Arena Football.

 
Blackjacks said:
gump said:
jeter23 said:
gump said:
jeter23 said:
Herd - April 17

* Colin begins by spending a few minutes patting himself on the back, as usual.

* There is a speculation that Tampa Bay will try and trade up to be sure they get CJ2. Reports are that they have offered their entire day 1 draft (4 picks in the first three rounds) to move up to the #1 overall pick.

* Colin says more picks are better than higher picks in general. Gives you room for error.

* Bucs are desperate and manic. Aging D, no clear starter at QB, average skill players. They cannot afford to give up picks for a WR. Historically, WRs do not break into the NFL and have a big impact.

* Gruden has too much influence with the draft picks. He is 10 games under .500 since making the Super Bowl.

* Both McShay and Kiper have CJ2 falling to TB anyway, why trade up?
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Is this direct from Cowherd? No offense...and appreciate the other summaries...but quoting Colin Cowherd is not interesting to anyone, I wouldn't think.
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Even after typing it all out, I almost deleted it. Yes, it is from Cowherd directly, although he did mentin "sources." At the beginning of the segment, it sounded like they were going to have someone on to talk about the Bucs. Instead, CC just talked the whole time. I went ahead and posted it, but I agree with you as far as its value.
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I don't mean to sound unappreciative...I just can't stand the guy and don't think he brings anything to the table of worth...and clutters up what is otherwise a great thread... :eek:
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Not to Hijack but how can you not like Colin, he absolutely cracks me up.
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As my wife would say, he likes himself enough for all of us.
 
jeter23 said:
Blackjacks said:
gump said:
jeter23 said:
gump said:
jeter23 said:
Herd - April 17

* Colin begins by spending a few minutes patting himself on the back, as usual.

* There is a speculation that Tampa Bay will try and trade up to be sure they get CJ2. Reports are that they have offered their entire day 1 draft (4 picks in the first three rounds) to move up to the #1 overall pick.

* Colin says more picks are better than higher picks in general. Gives you room for error.

* Bucs are desperate and manic. Aging D, no clear starter at QB, average skill players. They cannot afford to give up picks for a WR. Historically, WRs do not break into the NFL and have a big impact.

* Gruden has too much influence with the draft picks. He is 10 games under .500 since making the Super Bowl.

* Both McShay and Kiper have CJ2 falling to TB anyway, why trade up?
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Is this direct from Cowherd? No offense...and appreciate the other summaries...but quoting Colin Cowherd is not interesting to anyone, I wouldn't think.
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Even after typing it all out, I almost deleted it. Yes, it is from Cowherd directly, although he did mentin "sources." At the beginning of the segment, it sounded like they were going to have someone on to talk about the Bucs. Instead, CC just talked the whole time. I went ahead and posted it, but I agree with you as far as its value.
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I don't mean to sound unappreciative...I just can't stand the guy and don't think he brings anything to the table of worth...and clutters up what is otherwise a great thread... :hifive:
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Not to Hijack but how can you not like Colin, he absolutely cracks me up.
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As my wife would say, he likes himself enough for all of us.
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Exactly.. he's the ##### of all douches.
 
Couch Potato said:
Not that I'm a slave to the famous Jimmy Johnson chart used by the NFL, but I read an article somewhere today (sorry, you'll have to find the link yourself) that said the four TB picks (1st, two 2nds, and a 3rd) don't add up point-wise to the Raiders 1st overall.
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Wow...I didn't realize that. Anyone have that link to the pick calculator?
 
massraider said:
gump said:
Couch Potato said:
Not that I'm a slave to the famous Jimmy Johnson chart used by the NFL, but I read an article somewhere today (sorry, you'll have to find the link yourself) that said the four TB picks (1st, two 2nds, and a 3rd) don't add up point-wise to the Raiders 1st overall.
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Wow...I didn't realize that. Anyone have that link to the pick calculator?
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http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/valuechart.html
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Thanks, MR!So...Pick #4, #35, #64, and #68 = 2,870

Pick #1 = 3,000

Obviously not an exact science...as a Peyton Manning #1 pick should be worth more than a Mario Williams #1 pick...but interesting.

I just don't think the Bucs are in a position of talent and youth to give away 3 of the top 68 picks.

 
Herd - April 18th

Eric Allen, dicussing WRs available in draft

* Steve Smith- his role will be as a route runner, possession guy, chain mover. Compared to McCardell.

* Dwayne Jarrett- unfairly compared to Mike Williams. Will come into the league with a chip on his shoulder and he really wants to play football and wants to prove everyone wrong. Can really be a dominant player, especially in the red zone. Will be a much better player than Williams. Gets in and out of his routes very well.

* Calvin Johnson- maybe the best athlete in the draft. Gets out of his routes well. Has quickness and speed.

* Brady Quinn- football junkie, cut up, especially for a QB. His build shows his work ethic. Dedicated to the game. He has the intangibles, but the Raiders won't take him. The Raiders need someone to build around and will take Russell.

 
Herd - April 18th

Mel Kiper, Draft guru

Colin began with his opinion about taking players who have no chance to ever help you. He uses Chris Leak as an example and states that he is less than 6 ft tall and scared to get hit. He then brings Kiper on.

* Later in the round, you are asking yourself if a player can be a good backup. If not, you don't draft him. Teams don't draft a player to be 3rd string.

* The backup QBs job is to be able to win some games, but those are never players you want to count on longterm.

* Discussing college stars drafted as late rounders. All have their questions and what they showed in college, you won't see in the NFL.

* Steve Smith- one of the best WRs after the catch. Has really good hands. He is being compared to Keary Colbert, which is hurting him. Could be a 2nd round pick.

* DE is the strongest, and riskiest, position. Top heavy with depth.

* OG is also a strong position.

* OLine has the fewest number of busts.

 
gump said:
massraider said:
gump said:
Couch Potato said:
Not that I'm a slave to the famous Jimmy Johnson chart used by the NFL, but I read an article somewhere today (sorry, you'll have to find the link yourself) that said the four TB picks (1st, two 2nds, and a 3rd) don't add up point-wise to the Raiders 1st overall.
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Wow...I didn't realize that. Anyone have that link to the pick calculator?
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http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/valuechart.html
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Thanks, MR!So...Pick #4, #35, #64, and #68 = 2,870

Pick #1 = 3,000

Obviously not an exact science...as a Peyton Manning #1 pick should be worth more than a Mario Williams #1 pick...but interesting.

I just don't think the Bucs are in a position of talent and youth to give away 3 of the top 68 picks.
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But how many guys with future starter ability does a draft yield? If you have the standard 7 picks, you're probably doing well to average 3 future starters per draft. So from that perspective, it may be worth it to get the top player on your board when he is a potential game changer. TB has to believe he's a Rice, Sharpe, Holt, or Harrison - and if he is, it's a good trade.
 
ESPNEWS, The Hotlist - April 18th

Mel Kiper

*Kiper's top 10 are listed:

1. Oak - Russell

2. Det - Adams

3. Cle - Quinn

4. TB - CJ2

5. Ariz - Thomas

6. Was - Landry

7. Min - AD

8. Atl - Brown

9. Mia - Okoye

10. Hou - Hall

* Oakland- Slim chance that they would take CJ2. Needs an identity at QB and cannot pass again like they did last year. He will help them get the excitement back.

* Why would Det pass on a QB? History with Harrington, they could get Edwards in round 2 and Martz can develop any QB. Expects Det to trade down and choose Adams.

* Cleveland- have some young guys in Frye and Anderson, but Quinn is an upgrade. They would consider AD or a trade down to still get Quinn.

* Why would Peterson slip? Either Quinn or AD will fall to the 7-9 range.

* Miami- story of the draft, Okoye. He can be really good, even early in his career. Productive, active and has good character. Nobody has better character than Okoye.

* Mel's big board top 10 is shared

1. CJ2

2. Thomas

3. AD

4. Russell

5. Quinn

6. Landry

7. Okoye

8. Adams

9. Hall

10. J Anderson

* Staley is moving up and is a possibility for the Giants at 20.

* Beason is moving down- early to mid 2nd round.

* Thomas- best case is for him to go to Arizona. He needs to get stronger, but has great feet and ability.

* A. Spencer- will be the find in the last 1st, early 2nd. Could be Def. rookie of the year.

* Harrell- will be a steal as we look back on draft in the future.

* Team most likely to trade- Detroit, Washington moving down.

* Houston- may surprise again and take Peterson if he is there.

 
jeter23 said:
Herd - April 18th

Mel Kiper, Draft guru

Colin began with his opinion about taking players who have no chance to ever help you. He uses Chris Leak as an example and states that he is less than 6 ft tall and scared to get hit. He then brings Kiper on.

* Later in the round, you are asking yourself if a player can be a good backup. If not, you don't draft him. Teams don't draft a player to be 3rd string.

* The backup QBs job is to be able to win some games, but those are never players you want to count on longterm.

* Discussing college stars drafted as late rounders. All have their questions and what they showed in college, you won't see in the NFL.

* Steve Smith- one of the best WRs after the catch. Has really good hands. He is being compared to Keary Colbert, which is hurting him. Could be a 2nd round pick.

* DE is the strongest, and riskiest, position. Top heavy with depth.

* OG is also a strong position.

* OLine has the fewest number of busts.
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Mel has an amazing grasp of the obvious!God, am I glad my brother doesn't work for those clowns at ESPN anymore! :eek:

 
The Herd rocks.. He's admittedly more interested in College ball, but his insight is appreciated by me nonetheless.

Keep up the good work bro!

 
Sportsbash - April 18th

Paul Kuharsky, The Tennessean

Titans on the clock-

* Early signs are the Titans could go with a WR, maybe Bowe. Moss and Carriker are also options. If there is a top 3 CB, they would be interested in Ross, Hall or Houston.

* Ginn and Meachem are other WRs they might like.

* Bowe would be the pick at this time.

* Skill positions are weak, and should be a focus of the draft. Expects them to add a RB before the draft, either Turner, Dillon or C Brown.

* Need to upgrade the skills spots, but have the 32nd ranked D as well.

* Likely will not be interested in trading up.

* Are the Titans willing to trade for Turner? They won't pay a 1st and a 3rd, but they may do a 2nd and a 2nd or 3rd next year. Would be win win for both teams.

* Momentum has not carried over from the end of the season as the team was not active in FA and lost Henry, Bennett and Wade. Talent has taken a step back.

 
Sportsbash - April 18th

Matt Maiocco, Santa Rosa Press Democrat

49ers on the clock-

* the 9ers will take Willis at 11. Many things have to fall into place though. They like him after seeing him at the Senior Bowl. Assuming Landry, Brown are gone, they will go with Willis. He has everything they are looking for. He made a bigger impression n SF brass than Ryans did the year before.

* He would be pluged in from the start and have a chance to be the Def rookie of the year.

* 49ers have a need at WR. They will take a WR in the 1st day, as they have 8 picks in the first 4 rounds. Meachem is their 2nd choice at WR, but won't take him at 11.

* Will spend a 2nd or 3rd on WR.

* Another year will help VDavis and he plays like a WR.

* They have a lot of momentum and a good attitude around the team after having some success in FA.

 
jeter23 said:
Sportsbash - April 18th

Paul Kuharsky, The Tennessean

Titans on the clock-

* Early signs are the Titans could go with a WR, maybe Bowe. Moss and Carriker are also options. If there is a top 3 CB, they would be interested in Ross, Hall or Houston.

* Ginn and Meachem are other WRs they might like.

* Bowe would be the pick at this time.

* Skill positions are weak, and should be a focus of the draft. Expects them to add a RB before the draft, either Turner, Dillon or C Brown.

* Need to upgrade the skills spots, but have the 32nd ranked D as well.

* Likely will not be interested in trading up.

* Are the Titans willing to trade for Turner? They won't pay a 1st and a 3rd, but they may do a 2nd and a 2nd or 3rd next year. Would be win win for both teams.

* Momentum has not carried over from the end of the season as the team was not active in FA and lost Henry, Bennett and Wade. Talent has taken a step back.
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Disagree with almost everything he said.
 
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