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Ok guys. Lets get a list going of potential sleepers this year. DL, LB, DB......

Sleeper Definition: Players that are not expected to produce much, if anything, at all. i.e Mark Anderson, Robert Geathers, Gerald Hayes, Richard Marshall, Antoine Bethea are a few from last year that surprised.

Please give reasons why you think said players are sleepers too.

I will keep a running tally on everyone's nominees just to make it easier to read.

Defensive Line

Robaire Smith (Cle)

Jason Hatcher (Dal)

James Hall (Stl)

Ikaika Alama-Francis (Det)

Cullen Jenkins (GB)

Quentin Moses (Oak)

Kevin Huntley (OAK)

Brian Robison (Min)

Brett Keisel (Pit)

Tim Crowder (Den)

Charles Johnson (Car)

Linebackers

Matt Wilhelm (SD)

Stephen Nicholas (Atl)

Gerris Wilkinson (NYG)

Karlos Dansby (AZ)

Rocky McIntosh (Was)

Daryl Smith (Jax)

Brian Simmons (NO)

Paris Lenon (Det)

Bradie James (Dal)

Michael Okwo (Chi)

Marvin Mitchell (NO)

Johnny Baldwin (Det)

Jarret Johnson (Bal)

Antwan Barnes (Bal)

Defensive Backs

Ashton Youboty (Buf)

Gerald Sensabaugh (Jax)

Aaron Rouse (GB)

Sabbi Piscetelli (TB)

Daniel Bullocks (Det)

Roman Harper (NO)

Anthony Smith (Pit)

Leigh Bodden (Cle)

 
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I like Matt Wilhelm LB SD, mostly because of this article:

http://www.chargers.com/news/headlines/coo...lm-enjoying.htm

Especially this part caught my eye:

"Wilhelm becomes the quarterback of the position. The “Mike” linebacker is responsible for making the defensive calls and getting everyone aligned properly. He’s also in the middle of a defense that filters many plays to his position and requires him to make the tackle.

“Being the signal caller and huddle caller and running with the first team gives me some confidence,” Wilhelm said. “The defense is built for my position to succeed, make a lot of plays, interceptions and tackles. I feel like I can step up on that level. I’ve got a huge responsibility.”

 
Of course there are several players to like as sleepers but I'll throw a name out that hasn't been mentioned much - Ashton Youboty BUF.

Youboty is a young CB that surely will be tested by opposing offenses. He's got very good ball skills and should be decent enough as a tackler to work well as a Richard Marshall type of player this year (i e a cheap DB as a great starter when called upon).

 
Gerald Sensabaugh looks like stud material with Darius now gone.

I also really like Jason Hatcher, a DE/OLB tweener who looked pretty good in spot duty with the Cowboys. They were using him as a 3rd down rush specialist by the end of the season.

 
Stephen Nicholas in case Demarrio isn't back from his injury? He just signed a contract and should get a jump on the playbook.

From the writeup

Nicholas finds himself in a perfect situation. Expected to be a second day draft pick for a team to develop and use on special teams, Nicholas was drafted by the Falcons to address a need after projected WLB starter Demorrio Williams was injured just before the draft. Nicholas will get the majority of snaps at WLB during the pre-season and could see extended time as the regular season starts if Williams isn’t recovered in time. If he proves himself on the field, it is possible he could retain the role long-term with Williams working on a one year RFA contract. He may be the top second tier linebacker target in rookie dynasty drafts and has the potential to become a LB2-3 in redraft leagues if the news on Williams isn’t promising later in the pre-season.

After the pectoral injury, however, Williams will lose valuable time learning the new scheme and may not be able to earn back his starting role if rookie Stephen Nicholas establishes himself while Williams recovers.

 
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I like Daniel Bullocks in Detroit. The kid always produced well when given the playing time and he should be starting FS behind a suspect LB crew.

 
Does Roman Harper qualify? He posted good enough numbers to get noticed a year ago but played less than half the season due to injury. I like his chances to return to form, however if he doesn't qualify as a true sleeper I won't argue.

Then there's Bernard Pollard. Coming off his rookie year he's in prime position to post excellent fantasy numbers. That being said, we talk about him all the time in this forum so I don't know that he qualifies as a sleeper. However since he hasn't had a breakout fantasy season you could argue he should.

Bobby McCray - DL Jacksonville. 9.5 sacks last year probably prevents a sleeper tag, but nobody talks about this guy. And from what I've seen he appears to be in line for more playing time than a year ago.

Gerris Wilkinson LB NYG - Possibly the only true sleeper on my list but the guy I'm least confident about! I'm confident Wilkinson will get the opportunity, however weak side backer for the Giants hasn't really been productive since Jesse Armstead. Still I like what Wilkinson brings to the table.

 
i'll spout of some LB'ers as they are my passion. we start DL, and DB as well but LB'ers are the defenses equivalent to RB's(as they are the horses and they win or lose the games for u).

freddy kieaho(fills cato's spot, and is better in run support)

angelo crowell(one of few worthy SLB)

Barrett Ruud(quick tackling machine in cover2, oh yeah i'll take that)

DJ Williams(such a bigtime sleeper)

Matt Wilhelm(takes over for donnie)

Karlos Dansby(moving to ILB, and more importantly WILB i believe)

Thomas Howard(was good last year and should only get better)

Jon Beason(panthers need he,morgan,thomas davis to step up)

DQ'well Jackson(quick tackling machine inside in 3-4)

Rocky Mcintosh(uber active-quick tackling machine, but can he stay healthy?)

Daryl Smith(peterson back but daryl may stick at MLB)

Brian Simmons(NO needs a MLB to step up so badly)

Paris Lenon(marinelli says he's the MLB of his dreams, take that as u want)

Bradie James(philips 3-4 more LB friendly for james opposed to parcells version)

David Harris(goodbye eric barton)

Omar Gaither(the replacement of jeremiah trotter eventually,will play on the weakside and will stay in in nickel)

 
Peak said:
Tick said:
ninerfanatic492000 said:
Karlos Dansby(moving to ILB, and more importantly WILB i believe)
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What makes you believe he'll be WILB? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just asking you to give a little more information.
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I thought there wasn't really much of a difference between LILB and RILB? :lmao:
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There are some differences between 3-4 schemes. Here's a quick look at some early data and possible conclusions about the current 3-4 schemes.I'm working on a much longer article about the 3-4 for publication later this summer.

 
Here is someone to keep an eye on, rookie DE Ikaika Alama-Francis of the Lions. He is very raw and hasn't played a lot of football, but he is a tremendous athlete with a big motor and a ton of upside. Rod Marinelli said he should be a solid run defender right away, but needs work on his pass rushing skills. He has the talent and upside to be a great DL, but lacks experience. He didn't even play college football until his 2nd year at Hawaii. He was 220 pounds when he started playing, and now is up to 280. He also has a great attitude and work ethic. Once he learns how to play, he could be a great 2 way player. He may have the highest upside of any DL in the draft. In my opinion, he will turn out to be a steal for the Lions.

 
lions327 said:
Here is someone to keep an eye on, rookie DE Ikaika Alama-Francis of the Lions. He is very raw and hasn't played a lot of football, but he is a tremendous athlete with a big motor and a ton of upside. Rod Marinelli said he should be a solid run defender right away, but needs work on his pass rushing skills. He has the talent and upside to be a great DL, but lacks experience. He didn't even play college football until his 2nd year at Hawaii. He was 220 pounds when he started playing, and now is up to 280. He also has a great attitude and work ethic. Once he learns how to play, he could be a great 2 way player. He may have the highest upside of any DL in the draft. In my opinion, he will turn out to be a steal for the Lions.
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:mellow: - agree with the bold 100%Denver and Philly are going to rue taking Tim Crowder and Victor Abiamiri instead of this guy. If he doesn't get hurt in the Hula Bowl, I think he could have snuck into the first round.

 
If Briggs actually sits there could be good value in whoever is projected to take his spot. Whoever plays there will put up good numbers for the games Briggs is out. Ultimately though I think he'll play. Sitting out 10 games is not going to help his chances of getting a big contract if his replacement plays as well as he does—the biggest knock on his trade value this summer was that he was a system guy.

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
lions327 said:
Here is someone to keep an eye on, rookie DE Ikaika Alama-Francis of the Lions. He is very raw and hasn't played a lot of football, but he is a tremendous athlete with a big motor and a ton of upside. Rod Marinelli said he should be a solid run defender right away, but needs work on his pass rushing skills. He has the talent and upside to be a great DL, but lacks experience. He didn't even play college football until his 2nd year at Hawaii. He was 220 pounds when he started playing, and now is up to 280. He also has a great attitude and work ethic. Once he learns how to play, he could be a great 2 way player. He may have the highest upside of any DL in the draft. In my opinion, he will turn out to be a steal for the Lions.
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:goodposting: - agree with the bold 100%Denver and Philly are going to rue taking Tim Crowder and Victor Abiamiri instead of this guy. If he doesn't get hurt in the Hula Bowl, I think he could have snuck into the first round.
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...if he keeps bulking up, will he stay a DE, or could there be a possibility of his moving inside?
 
BearsFan said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
lions327 said:
Here is someone to keep an eye on, rookie DE Ikaika Alama-Francis of the Lions. He is very raw and hasn't played a lot of football, but he is a tremendous athlete with a big motor and a ton of upside. Rod Marinelli said he should be a solid run defender right away, but needs work on his pass rushing skills. He has the talent and upside to be a great DL, but lacks experience. He didn't even play college football until his 2nd year at Hawaii. He was 220 pounds when he started playing, and now is up to 280. He also has a great attitude and work ethic. Once he learns how to play, he could be a great 2 way player. He may have the highest upside of any DL in the draft. In my opinion, he will turn out to be a steal for the Lions.
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:bag: - agree with the bold 100%Denver and Philly are going to rue taking Tim Crowder and Victor Abiamiri instead of this guy. If he doesn't get hurt in the Hula Bowl, I think he could have snuck into the first round.
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...if he keeps bulking up, will he stay a DE, or could there be a possibility of his moving inside?
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There's a possibility of him moving inside, but I would think only to spell Cory Redding, who is turning into a heckuva undertackle. If they didn't have someone like Redding on the roster, then there would be a much larger possibility imo of them developing IAF to be that kind of force on the inside.
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
lions327 said:
Here is someone to keep an eye on, rookie DE Ikaika Alama-Francis of the Lions. He is very raw and hasn't played a lot of football, but he is a tremendous athlete with a big motor and a ton of upside. Rod Marinelli said he should be a solid run defender right away, but needs work on his pass rushing skills. He has the talent and upside to be a great DL, but lacks experience. He didn't even play college football until his 2nd year at Hawaii. He was 220 pounds when he started playing, and now is up to 280. He also has a great attitude and work ethic. Once he learns how to play, he could be a great 2 way player. He may have the highest upside of any DL in the draft. In my opinion, he will turn out to be a steal for the Lions.
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:confused: - agree with the bold 100%Denver and Philly are going to rue taking Tim Crowder and Victor Abiamiri instead of this guy. If he doesn't get hurt in the Hula Bowl, I think he could have snuck into the first round.
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You you still have him ranked as the 7th ranked rookie DL, 38th IDP overall? Looking for a DE in the rookie dynasty draft and only Anderson and G. Adams are gone.
 
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ATC1 said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
lions327 said:
Here is someone to keep an eye on, rookie DE Ikaika Alama-Francis of the Lions. He is very raw and hasn't played a lot of football, but he is a tremendous athlete with a big motor and a ton of upside. Rod Marinelli said he should be a solid run defender right away, but needs work on his pass rushing skills. He has the talent and upside to be a great DL, but lacks experience. He didn't even play college football until his 2nd year at Hawaii. He was 220 pounds when he started playing, and now is up to 280. He also has a great attitude and work ethic. Once he learns how to play, he could be a great 2 way player. He may have the highest upside of any DL in the draft. In my opinion, he will turn out to be a steal for the Lions.
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:thumbdown: - agree with the bold 100%Denver and Philly are going to rue taking Tim Crowder and Victor Abiamiri instead of this guy. If he doesn't get hurt in the Hula Bowl, I think he could have snuck into the first round.
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You you still have him ranked as the 7th ranked rookie DL, 38th IDP overall? Looking for a DE in the rookie dynasty draft and only Anderson and G. Adams are gone.
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thats mainly based on the fact you might have to wait a few years for production (I generally don't like to clog up roster spots with developmental IDPs), and the possibility of him being a DE/DT - still you are correct that he's a little low among DL, now that we know that Carriker is getting NT reps. Ill fix that right now...
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
ATC1 said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
lions327 said:
Here is someone to keep an eye on, rookie DE Ikaika Alama-Francis of the Lions. He is very raw and hasn't played a lot of football, but he is a tremendous athlete with a big motor and a ton of upside. Rod Marinelli said he should be a solid run defender right away, but needs work on his pass rushing skills. He has the talent and upside to be a great DL, but lacks experience. He didn't even play college football until his 2nd year at Hawaii. He was 220 pounds when he started playing, and now is up to 280. He also has a great attitude and work ethic. Once he learns how to play, he could be a great 2 way player. He may have the highest upside of any DL in the draft. In my opinion, he will turn out to be a steal for the Lions.
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:thumbdown: - agree with the bold 100%Denver and Philly are going to rue taking Tim Crowder and Victor Abiamiri instead of this guy. If he doesn't get hurt in the Hula Bowl, I think he could have snuck into the first round.
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You you still have him ranked as the 7th ranked rookie DL, 38th IDP overall? Looking for a DE in the rookie dynasty draft and only Anderson and G. Adams are gone.
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thats mainly based on the fact you might have to wait a few years for production (I generally don't like to clog up roster spots with developmental IDPs), and the possibility of him being a DE/DT - still you are correct that he's a little low among DL, now that we know that Carriker is getting NT reps. Ill fix that right now...
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Thanks for responding. I ask because I just came from the rankings to here. I had a pretty good idea of who I was going with before, but I had to check with you guys first.
 
A couple of rookies I love, possibly for this year but more importantly for Dynasy Leagues are: Okwo and Quentin Moses. Okwo, should inherit the WLB in Chicago sooner rather than later and will put up big numbers. Moses in Oakland should also produce this year and beyond. Since Burgess will be double teamed Moses should be getting at the QB a lot and since the Raiders are always losing Moses should also put up some decent tackle numbers as well.

I also like Weddle to put up some good numbers this year as well.

 
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A couple of rookies I love, possibly for this year but more importantly for Dynasy Leagues are: Okwo and Quentin Moses. Okwo, should inherit the WLB in Chicago sooner rather than later and will put up big numbers. Moses in Oakland should also produce this year and beyond. Since Burgess will be double teamed Moses should be getting at the QB a lot and since the Raiders are always losing Moses should also put up some decent tackle numbers as well.
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The above is why I love Kevin Huntley as a sleeper. He looked great last August, always made his presence felt, but then never saw action till the end of the season, when he collected 2.5 sacks in 4 games or so. He was running with the first team in OTA's, and has much better size than Moses. Moses has the name recognition, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Huntley keep him on the bench till he bulks up.With Burgess at RE, the coveted weakside end position is his right now. Anyone that grabs Moses, would be wise to grab Huntley as well.
 
ninerfanatic492000 said:
Brian Simmons(NO needs a MLB to step up so badly)
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Just to add to this sentiment, let's play "what if".....If Simmons can't step up and deliver, the backup to Simmons could very well be the 7th round pick from Tennessee in Marvin Mitchell.

I don't know Mitchell's play at all, but that could be quite an opportunity to grab a MLB should the situation play out that way. We know that NO didn't set the world on fire with LB play last year, and Simmons has injury issues, so he's not a 100% lock on the position.

Just another name to store away (and anyone who knows more on him, please chime in. I read today he's a "classic 2-down run stuffer", but I'd like to hear more).

He's certainly a cheap prospect / sleeper.

I just checked and he was mentioned by Bloom, but in name only:

NFL Draftguys - ILB prospects

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Jeff Pasquino said:
ninerfanatic492000 said:
Brian Simmons(NO needs a MLB to step up so badly)
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Just to add to this sentiment, let's play "what if".....If Simmons can't step up and deliver, the backup to Simmons could very well be the 7th round pick from Tennessee in Marvin Mitchell.

I don't know Mitchell's play at all, but that could be quite an opportunity to grab a MLB should the situation play out that way. We know that NO didn't set the world on fire with LB play last year, and Simmons has injury issues, so he's not a 100% lock on the position.

Just another name to store away (and anyone who knows more on him, please chime in. I read today he's a "classic 2-down run stuffer", but I'd like to hear more).

He's certainly a cheap prospect / sleeper.

I just checked and he was mentioned by Bloom, but in name only:

NFL Draftguys - ILB prospects

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i would think right now Mark Simoneau would have the backup role if Simmons was to go down.
 
ATC1 said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
ninerfanatic492000 said:
Brian Simmons(NO needs a MLB to step up so badly)
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Just to add to this sentiment, let's play "what if".....If Simmons can't step up and deliver, the backup to Simmons could very well be the 7th round pick from Tennessee in Marvin Mitchell.

I don't know Mitchell's play at all, but that could be quite an opportunity to grab a MLB should the situation play out that way. We know that NO didn't set the world on fire with LB play last year, and Simmons has injury issues, so he's not a 100% lock on the position.

Just another name to store away (and anyone who knows more on him, please chime in. I read today he's a "classic 2-down run stuffer", but I'd like to hear more).

He's certainly a cheap prospect / sleeper.

I just checked and he was mentioned by Bloom, but in name only:

NFL Draftguys - ILB prospects

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i would think right now Mark Simoneau would have the backup role if Simmons was to go down.
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I agree, i think Marvin Mitchell will be lucky to make the team and has to be good enough for special teams. People get carried away that NOR had average LBs last year, but M. Mitchell is really a seventh rounder.
 
I'll throw Brian Robison into the mix as a guy to keep an eye on. I really like his potential ...

He is a tremendous athlete who had an impressive workout at the combine (40.5 vertical). One of those high motor types, who is an excellant special teams player. Prolly would have been an OLB had he been drafted be a 3-4 team.

The opportunity is there in Minny for a DE who can get to the QB and Robison just might be that guy. He could be a situational pass rusher and fit into a rotation, similar to Mark Anderson's role last year.

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I'll throw out CB Leigh Bodden of the Browns, especially in leagues that award for pass defended. The past 2 years he has put up good tackle and PD#s,( last year 13 pass def in 8 games, won't count the Oaklanbd game he got hurt in the 1st qtr-I remember b/c i played him that day and was at a sports bar w/ the ticket and saw him taken off) the problem is he has missed alot of games over that time so I think he is flying under the radar. Keep an eye on him for depth that if healthy could produce for you.

 
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I'll throw out CB Leigh Bodden of the Browns, especially in leagues that award for pass defended. The past 2 years he has put up good tackle and PD#s,( last year 13 pass def in 8 games, won't count the Oaklanbd game he got hurt in the 1st qtr-I remember b/c i played him that day and was at a sports bar w/ the ticket and saw him taken off) the problem is he has missed alot of games over that time so I think he is flying under the radar. Keep an eye on him for depth that if healthy could produce for you.
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To take this a step further I'll add Eric Wright, CB Browns. I've always viewed a rookie CB a sleeper and a risk. With Bodden opposite him, Wright should have plenty of opportunities to show his skills. He is made a big splash in OTAs and was running with the first team. I don't see any reason why Wright wouldn't start from day one, and being a rookie I can see opposing QBs try him more so than Bodden. Another solid option to get tackles and PDs with a few INTs thrown in for good measure.
 
just add to your list and make a comment.

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comment The following from your list do not qualify as sleepers because they well known and have been prodcutive. They also will be drafted high in most real IDP leagues. one you list is like ESPN listing Willis McGahee as a keeper in there fantasy rag.

D.J. Williams

Karlos Dansby

Daryl Smith

Bradie James

Daniel Bullocks

 
Agreed, anyone who thinks DJ Williams is a sleeper hasn't been paying attention. He should/will be drafted among the top 15 LBs in every competative league

 
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lions327 said:
Here is someone to keep an eye on, rookie DE Ikaika Alama-Francis of the Lions. He is very raw and hasn't played a lot of football, but he is a tremendous athlete with a big motor and a ton of upside. Rod Marinelli said he should be a solid run defender right away, but needs work on his pass rushing skills. He has the talent and upside to be a great DL, but lacks experience. He didn't even play college football until his 2nd year at Hawaii. He was 220 pounds when he started playing, and now is up to 280. He also has a great attitude and work ethic. Once he learns how to play, he could be a great 2 way player. He may have the highest upside of any DL in the draft. In my opinion, he will turn out to be a steal for the Lions.
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DET LB Baldwin is also getting a lot of love for the same reasons. It seems the Lions have a few projects there that may pay off big down the road.
 
duece2626 said:
Bizkiteer said:
lord_helmet said:
Agreed, anyone who thinks DJ Williams is a sleeper hasn't been paying attention. He should/will be drafted among the top 15 LBs in every competative league
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Until the report comes out that he's still playing SLB....Ouch!
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I can't see Webster, Holdman or Lewis beating out DJ for the MLB.
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Kirwin talked about this on Sirius a day ago...Webster is less of a liability as MLB than ??? at SLB. He bascially said that other teams hope that DJ goes in the middle because then they will tear the Broncos up down the middle with their TE. I agree in that nobody else is more talented than DJ in their LB corps, but again...it's a liability issues and not a talent issue.
 
Bcubed2355 said:
just add to your list and make a comment.AdditionsDLs Cullen Jenkins DBsAnthony Smithcomment The following from your list do not qualify as sleepers because they well known and have been prodcutive. They also will be drafted high in most real IDP leagues. one you list is like ESPN listing Willis McGahee as a keeper in there fantasy rag.D.J. WilliamsKarlos DansbyDaryl SmithBradie JamesDaniel Bullocks
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I was questionable about putting DJ Williams on the list as he is more of a well known player. I will remove if people would like me too. Dansby is questioable as well, but I do think with his drop last year that he will be significantly undervalued this year.D. Smith is not as known as those other two guys. With his impending move to the MLB role in Jax he could be huge this year. I guess it just depends on how deep your IDP league is as to whether or not he would qualify.B. James is a sleeper IMO. He is overlooked by many and quietly had a solid year last year. I think he could actually improve on that this year as he will be used better I think in W. Phillips defense.D. Bullocks is a sleeper. He still has not done anything yet in the NFL. He might of been hyped up alot coming out of college last year but he will be overlooked by many this year when he could take a big step forward.
 
TheGreatest said:
Bcubed2355 said:
just add to your list and make a comment.

Additions

DLs

Cullen Jenkins

DBs

Anthony Smith

comment The following from your list do not qualify as sleepers because they well known and have been prodcutive. They also will be drafted high in most real IDP leagues. one you list is like ESPN listing Willis McGahee as a keeper in there fantasy rag.

D.J. Williams

Karlos Dansby

Daryl Smith

Bradie James

Daniel Bullocks
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I was questionable about putting DJ Williams on the list as he is more of a well known player. I will remove if people would like me too. Dansby is questioable as well, but I do think with his drop last year that he will be significantly undervalued this year.

D. Smith is not as known as those other two guys. With his impending move to the MLB role in Jax he could be huge this year. I guess it just depends on how deep your IDP league is as to whether or not he would qualify.

B. James is a sleeper IMO. He is overlooked by many and quietly had a solid year last year. I think he could actually improve on that this year as he will be used better I think in W. Phillips defense.

D. Bullocks is a sleeper. He still has not done anything yet in the NFL. He might of been hyped up alot coming out of college last year but he will be overlooked by many this year when he could take a big step forward.
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I think this is all speculation and it's only coming from FF'ers. Mike Peterson is the leader of the defense and he physically can still get the job done. As long as he's still on the roster, Smith will play in another LB position. If you listen to any interview from the JAX players about what went worng last year, they will all point out that they lost their defensive leader and it was one if not the biggest blow that took last year. We get fooled by only looking at stats, when there is more to many of the positions than just that.
 
TheGreatest said:
Bcubed2355 said:
just add to your list and make a comment.

Additions

DLs

Cullen Jenkins

DBs

Anthony Smith

comment The following from your list do not qualify as sleepers because they well known and have been prodcutive. They also will be drafted high in most real IDP leagues. one you list is like ESPN listing Willis McGahee as a keeper in there fantasy rag.

D.J. Williams

Karlos Dansby

Daryl Smith

Bradie James

Daniel Bullocks
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I was questionable about putting DJ Williams on the list as he is more of a well known player. I will remove if people would like me too. Dansby is questioable as well, but I do think with his drop last year that he will be significantly undervalued this year.

D. Smith is not as known as those other two guys. With his impending move to the MLB role in Jax he could be huge this year. I guess it just depends on how deep your IDP league is as to whether or not he would qualify.

B. James is a sleeper IMO. He is overlooked by many and quietly had a solid year last year. I think he could actually improve on that this year as he will be used better I think in W. Phillips defense.

D. Bullocks is a sleeper. He still has not done anything yet in the NFL. He might of been hyped up alot coming out of college last year but he will be overlooked by many this year when he could take a big step forward.
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From what I've read on the boards here and other places - sorry no link - Bradie James will not be a 3 down linebacker and that Adowelye (? on spelling) will actually be the ILB that will get more opportunities and will be the better fantasy player. And yes I own Bradie in a league :no: and when I tried to trade him - the other guy knew he was more than likely a 2 down player.
 
Bizkiteer said:
TheGreatest said:
Bcubed2355 said:
just add to your list and make a comment.

Additions

DLs

Cullen Jenkins

DBs

Anthony Smith

comment The following from your list do not qualify as sleepers because they well known and have been prodcutive. They also will be drafted high in most real IDP leagues. one you list is like ESPN listing Willis McGahee as a keeper in there fantasy rag.

D.J. Williams

Karlos Dansby

Daryl Smith

Bradie James

Daniel Bullocks
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I was questionable about putting DJ Williams on the list as he is more of a well known player. I will remove if people would like me too. Dansby is questioable as well, but I do think with his drop last year that he will be significantly undervalued this year.

D. Smith is not as known as those other two guys. With his impending move to the MLB role in Jax he could be huge this year. I guess it just depends on how deep your IDP league is as to whether or not he would qualify.

B. James is a sleeper IMO. He is overlooked by many and quietly had a solid year last year. I think he could actually improve on that this year as he will be used better I think in W. Phillips defense.

D. Bullocks is a sleeper. He still has not done anything yet in the NFL. He might of been hyped up alot coming out of college last year but he will be overlooked by many this year when he could take a big step forward.
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I think this is all speculation and it's only coming from FF'ers. Mike Peterson is the leader of the defense and he physically can still get the job done. As long as he's still on the roster, Smith will play in another LB position. If you listen to any interview from the JAX players about what went worng last year, they will all point out that they lost their defensive leader and it was one if not the biggest blow that took last year. We get fooled by only looking at stats, when there is more to many of the positions than just that.
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I can't remember where I read it and again apologies for no link it stated that Peterson remains the MLB in Jax. Just one source but it seemed reliable.
 
TheGreatest said:
Bcubed2355 said:
just add to your list and make a comment.AdditionsDLs Cullen Jenkins DBsAnthony Smithcomment The following from your list do not qualify as sleepers because they well known and have been prodcutive. They also will be drafted high in most real IDP leagues. one you list is like ESPN listing Willis McGahee as a keeper in there fantasy rag.D.J. WilliamsKarlos DansbyDaryl SmithBradie JamesDaniel Bullocks
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I was questionable about putting DJ Williams on the list as he is more of a well known player. I will remove if people would like me too. Dansby is questioable as well, but I do think with his drop last year that he will be significantly undervalued this year.D. Smith is not as known as those other two guys. With his impending move to the MLB role in Jax he could be huge this year. I guess it just depends on how deep your IDP league is as to whether or not he would qualify.B. James is a sleeper IMO. He is overlooked by many and quietly had a solid year last year. I think he could actually improve on that this year as he will be used better I think in W. Phillips defense.D. Bullocks is a sleeper. He still has not done anything yet in the NFL. He might of been hyped up alot coming out of college last year but he will be overlooked by many this year when he could take a big step forward.
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It would've been a big story had Daryl Smith lined up in the middle during OTAs. That's not been reported anywhere. In fact, local papers are still referring to Peterson as the middle linebacker and an observer on a message board (FWIW) had the alignment ROLB Smith MLB Peterson LOLB Ingram after the second day of minicamp.I thought Bradie James was on the verge of top twenty value earlier in the off-season, but reports that he may not be a nickel defender should temper expectations.Bullocks did very well at SS in place of Kennedy last year. At FS, he may struggle to put up decent numbers unless he does well enough in the big play columns to have value in those leagues.It wouldn't surprise me to see Mike Peterson and Kenoy Kennedy overlooked this year. Not to the point that they are "sleepers", but they could fall in the Roman Harper -- out of sight, out of mind -- category.
 
Bizkiteer said:
TheGreatest said:
Bcubed2355 said:
just add to your list and make a comment.

Additions

DLs

Cullen Jenkins

DBs

Anthony Smith

comment The following from your list do not qualify as sleepers because they well known and have been prodcutive. They also will be drafted high in most real IDP leagues. one you list is like ESPN listing Willis McGahee as a keeper in there fantasy rag.

D.J. Williams

Karlos Dansby

Daryl Smith

Bradie James

Daniel Bullocks
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I was questionable about putting DJ Williams on the list as he is more of a well known player. I will remove if people would like me too. Dansby is questioable as well, but I do think with his drop last year that he will be significantly undervalued this year.

D. Smith is not as known as those other two guys. With his impending move to the MLB role in Jax he could be huge this year. I guess it just depends on how deep your IDP league is as to whether or not he would qualify.

B. James is a sleeper IMO. He is overlooked by many and quietly had a solid year last year. I think he could actually improve on that this year as he will be used better I think in W. Phillips defense.

D. Bullocks is a sleeper. He still has not done anything yet in the NFL. He might of been hyped up alot coming out of college last year but he will be overlooked by many this year when he could take a big step forward.
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I think this is all speculation and it's only coming from FF'ers. Mike Peterson is the leader of the defense and he physically can still get the job done. As long as he's still on the roster, Smith will play in another LB position. If you listen to any interview from the JAX players about what went worng last year, they will all point out that they lost their defensive leader and it was one if not the biggest blow that took last year. We get fooled by only looking at stats, when there is more to many of the positions than just that.
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I should have probably said "possible" in that sentence. I too, have gotten nothing but specualtion. Will have to wait until training camps to see where he will be lining up.
 
Jene Bramel said:
TheGreatest said:
Bcubed2355 said:
just add to your list and make a comment.

Additions

DLs

Cullen Jenkins

DBs

Anthony Smith

comment The following from your list do not qualify as sleepers because they well known and have been prodcutive. They also will be drafted high in most real IDP leagues. one you list is like ESPN listing Willis McGahee as a keeper in there fantasy rag.

D.J. Williams

Karlos Dansby

Daryl Smith

Bradie James

Daniel Bullocks
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I was questionable about putting DJ Williams on the list as he is more of a well known player. I will remove if people would like me too. Dansby is questioable as well, but I do think with his drop last year that he will be significantly undervalued this year.

D. Smith is not as known as those other two guys. With his impending move to the MLB role in Jax he could be huge this year. I guess it just depends on how deep your IDP league is as to whether or not he would qualify.

B. James is a sleeper IMO. He is overlooked by many and quietly had a solid year last year. I think he could actually improve on that this year as he will be used better I think in W. Phillips defense.

D. Bullocks is a sleeper. He still has not done anything yet in the NFL. He might of been hyped up alot coming out of college last year but he will be overlooked by many this year when he could take a big step forward.
Click to expand...
It would've been a big story had Daryl Smith lined up in the middle during OTAs. That's not been reported anywhere. In fact, local papers are still referring to Peterson as the middle linebacker and an observer on a message board (FWIW) had the alignment ROLB Smith MLB Peterson LOLB Ingram after the second day of minicamp.I thought Bradie James was on the verge of top twenty value earlier in the off-season, but reports that he may not be a nickel defender should temper expectations.

Bullocks did very well at SS in place of Kennedy last year. At FS, he may struggle to put up decent numbers unless he does well enough in the big play columns to have value in those leagues.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Mike Peterson and Kenoy Kennedy overlooked this year. Not to the point that they are "sleepers", but they could fall in the Roman Harper -- out of sight, out of mind -- category.
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This was the last thing I read about B. James....
One of the things that people assumed when Jerry Jones hired Wade Phillips to replace Bill Parcells was that the owner wanted continuity. But based on the early returns from minicamp and organized team activities, the model of defense Parcells ran the past few seasons and the one Phillips is installing are different beasts entirely. Parcells’ system requires the defensive linemen to two-gap a majority of the time, and the inside linebackers for the most part were left uncovered. That meant they had to take on offensive guards head-up a high number of plays each season, and it’s one of the factors that contributed to Bradie James’ subpar season. He now is expected to blitz more, something he seldom did before. DEs Marcus Spears and Chris Canty (who must hold off Jason Hatcher) also had unproductive seasons in 2006, but Phillips’ scheme allows them to run more freely. The central theme of the new defense appears to be one of attack, and that should suit some personnel who at times looked frustrated with the lack of creativity up front last season.
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I think the fact that he is going to blitx more will give him more chances at sacks. I haven't heard that he will only be a 2 down LB though.I totally agree about K. Kennedy. He will be overlooked but he is a solid safety that will produce good numbers. I doubt M. Peterson is overlooked. He has been too good for too long to let one season take him off of peoples radar. At least experienced IDPers.

 
TheGreatest said:
Bizkiteer said:
TheGreatest said:
Bcubed2355 said:
just add to your list and make a comment.

Additions

DLs

Cullen Jenkins

DBs

Anthony Smith

comment The following from your list do not qualify as sleepers because they well known and have been prodcutive. They also will be drafted high in most real IDP leagues. one you list is like ESPN listing Willis McGahee as a keeper in there fantasy rag.

D.J. Williams

Karlos Dansby

Daryl Smith

Bradie James

Daniel Bullocks
Click to expand...
I was questionable about putting DJ Williams on the list as he is more of a well known player. I will remove if people would like me too. Dansby is questioable as well, but I do think with his drop last year that he will be significantly undervalued this year.

D. Smith is not as known as those other two guys. With his impending move to the MLB role in Jax he could be huge this year. I guess it just depends on how deep your IDP league is as to whether or not he would qualify.

B. James is a sleeper IMO. He is overlooked by many and quietly had a solid year last year. I think he could actually improve on that this year as he will be used better I think in W. Phillips defense.

D. Bullocks is a sleeper. He still has not done anything yet in the NFL. He might of been hyped up alot coming out of college last year but he will be overlooked by many this year when he could take a big step forward.
Click to expand...
I think this is all speculation and it's only coming from FF'ers. Mike Peterson is the leader of the defense and he physically can still get the job done. As long as he's still on the roster, Smith will play in another LB position. If you listen to any interview from the JAX players about what went worng last year, they will all point out that they lost their defensive leader and it was one if not the biggest blow that took last year. We get fooled by only looking at stats, when there is more to many of the positions than just that.
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I should have probably said "possible" in that sentence. I too, have gotten nothing but specualtion. Will have to wait until training camps to see where he will be lining up.
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Even if D. Smith moves to MLB and Peterson to W/M the situation would be similar to the Titans where Bullock is in the W/M and Tulloch is in the MLB. I don't think Smith neccesarily gets a huge upgrade if in the MLB, Peterson will still get the Bullock stats wherein Smith will get the Tulloch stats.
 
DenverBroncos said:
TheGreatest said:
Bizkiteer said:
TheGreatest said:
Bcubed2355 said:
just add to your list and make a comment.

Additions

DLs

Cullen Jenkins

DBs

Anthony Smith

comment The following from your list do not qualify as sleepers because they well known and have been prodcutive. They also will be drafted high in most real IDP leagues. one you list is like ESPN listing Willis McGahee as a keeper in there fantasy rag.

D.J. Williams

Karlos Dansby

Daryl Smith

Bradie James

Daniel Bullocks
Click to expand...
I was questionable about putting DJ Williams on the list as he is more of a well known player. I will remove if people would like me too. Dansby is questioable as well, but I do think with his drop last year that he will be significantly undervalued this year.

D. Smith is not as known as those other two guys. With his impending move to the MLB role in Jax he could be huge this year. I guess it just depends on how deep your IDP league is as to whether or not he would qualify.

B. James is a sleeper IMO. He is overlooked by many and quietly had a solid year last year. I think he could actually improve on that this year as he will be used better I think in W. Phillips defense.

D. Bullocks is a sleeper. He still has not done anything yet in the NFL. He might of been hyped up alot coming out of college last year but he will be overlooked by many this year when he could take a big step forward.
Click to expand...
I think this is all speculation and it's only coming from FF'ers. Mike Peterson is the leader of the defense and he physically can still get the job done. As long as he's still on the roster, Smith will play in another LB position. If you listen to any interview from the JAX players about what went worng last year, they will all point out that they lost their defensive leader and it was one if not the biggest blow that took last year. We get fooled by only looking at stats, when there is more to many of the positions than just that.
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I should have probably said "possible" in that sentence. I too, have gotten nothing but specualtion. Will have to wait until training camps to see where he will be lining up.
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Even if D. Smith moves to MLB and Peterson to W/M the situation would be similar to the Titans where Bullock is in the W/M and Tulloch is in the MLB. I don't think Smith neccesarily gets a huge upgrade if in the MLB, Peterson will still get the Bullock stats wherein Smith will get the Tulloch stats.
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I think the Titans just spent a lot of money and a pick on Fowler being the M i/o Tulloch though
 
And I prefer posting about sleepers only after my 32 team auction is over (unfortunately it has not been scheduled yet - short of owners...)

 
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