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Of course he won't cost less money. He's better. Is talent not a factor here?I have no idea what the Cowboys are going to do next year. But if McFadden is the best player available when they pick, they can take him. They're not tied to the other two guys.
I'm guessing that the fact that Couch went to the same school Woodson attends means that Woodson will be a bust.I don't get it.[1999]1. Cleveland Browns - Tim Couch - QB - UK - Ricky Williams aside, Couch is the top-player in this draft. His accuracy wasn't on display in the Louisville game until the final few minutes, but he has all the tools and strength to be a franchise-caliber QB.[/1999]
uh, they've used 3 first or second round picks on olineman in the past two years. those guys generally don't develop overnight. and they're all starting.they're not going to use another one this year.
I'd agree with that. But if McFadden is available they could put a high tender on Barber, have him split time with McFadden for a year and then let him go in 2009.For the record, I'm not really on board with all these rumors that Dallas is hell-bent on getting McFadden. But I don't think their current RB situation precludes them from taking him, either.
How does being the worst team in the league again taste?
RAIDERNATION is a Chiefs fan?SLbDHow does being the worst team in the league again taste?
Im biased but he just doesnt have what it takes to be an NFL RB. He doesnt have NFL talent to play the position
That's a pretty accurate assessment. He should be the first WR chosen in 2008.
Whether or not Chili is here, I do not think they go QB. The TJ experiment may very well fail and the Vikes have to look again, but I do not think they can sell another developing QB here in Minny with a stadium request in the house. Building another QB means that they are waiting to win (to much of the public). If TJ is not the starter next year, I think it will be someone signed from Free Agency (or sadly, Holcomb).Pick #13 means they went somewhere around 7-9 or 8-8, right? Not gonna happen.A top ten pick and they'll look for a safety or another WR if Chili is still there, a QB if he's not.I would love to see Desean Jackson parter up with Sidney Rice.
I can't remember who the FA QB's are going to be next year.Edit: Apparently Grossman and Romo (if not re-upped this season) are the only two guys worth talking about. Other than that, about the only other guy that could even be considered is Cleo Lemon.God they're screwed at the QB position.Whether or not Chili is here, I do not think they go QB. The TJ experiment may very well fail and the Vikes have to look again, but I do not think they can sell another developing QB here in Minny with a stadium request in the house. Building another QB means that they are waiting to win (to much of the public). If TJ is not the starter next year, I think it will be someone signed from Free Agency (or sadly, Holcomb).Pick #13 means they went somewhere around 7-9 or 8-8, right? Not gonna happen.A top ten pick and they'll look for a safety or another WR if Chili is still there, a QB if he's not.I would love to see Desean Jackson parter up with Sidney Rice.
I think that is a little unfair to the family who took him in.Oher was the subject of an excellent book called "The Blind Side" (by Michael Lewis, author of "Moneyball") about how he went from being a social, economic, and mental pariah to someone who everyone wanted to watch over and take care of simply because he could play left tackle. I HIGHLY recommend reading it.what means this?
About the only two that seem to have a chance to be taken ahead of him are Early Doucet and Malcolm Kelly from Oklahoma (should he declare).Big names like Manningham and Sweed will be drafted after Jackson.
Ginn is 5-11. Jackson is 6-0, Both are lightweights. But smaller, quicker WR's are thriving in the NFL with the newer no-contact rules.
:Jeff George:I can't remember who the FA QB's are going to be next year.Edit: Apparently Grossman and Romo (if not re-upped this season) are the only two guys worth talking about. Other than that, about the only other guy that could even be considered is Cleo Lemon.God they're screwed at the QB position.Whether or not Chili is here, I do not think they go QB. The TJ experiment may very well fail and the Vikes have to look again, but I do not think they can sell another developing QB here in Minny with a stadium request in the house. Building another QB means that they are waiting to win (to much of the public). If TJ is not the starter next year, I think it will be someone signed from Free Agency (or sadly, Holcomb).
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Doucet >>>>> BoweIf Bowe is a better blocker than Doucet it won't be by much and Doucet is way ahead of Bowe in all the other needs of a WR.
Plus his name is Early Doucet. Is there a better name in sports? It just flows like honey.
McFadden will cost more... but that's because he is better.
Which is the same type of answer as "Why would Minnesota draft Adrian Peterson when they already had Chester Taylor?"
I don't think I'm passing judgment on the family that took him in any more then the social fabric that decided he was worthless until he started throwing people around with a football helmet on. I don't know how altruistic the family is/was, and it isn't really my business. But it is fair to say that a substantial amount of thew good will that has come his way is the product of playing left tackle really well.I think that is a little unfair to the family who took him in.Oher was the subject of an excellent book called "The Blind Side" (by Michael Lewis, author of "Moneyball") about how he went from being a social, economic, and mental pariah to someone who everyone wanted to watch over and take care of simply because he could play left tackle. I HIGHLY recommend reading it.what means this?
no way is Jackson really 6'
Except the Cowboys aren't tied to either Jones or Barber.I think we're all getting the picture now
They won't have to trade up when the Cle pick will end up as a top 3.
Does it really make much a difference? We're seeing lots of WRs in the 5'10"-5'11" range thrive.
He really looks shorter is alls I was sayin...Not saynig he's going to be bad. He could be Devin Hester if they let him return punts, and will be at least Santana Moss if he's a full time WR (maybe even a bit faster, but maybe not as natural a pass-catcher)
Fantastic job, imo. Not in a draft order, but ranked, these are currently my top 30 draft eligible collegians.
Huh?
Grown in Minnesota -
You carried water for Ginn all last year and through the draft yet aren't willing to do it for Jackson?
Too slow. In speed and quickness.
On Sweed, yeah maybe. I loved and still love Jarrett and he can't make the traveling squad. I love the great hands and clutch plays. Almost put Monk in there when trying to rate WRs. I like the Earl Bennett a bunch too. Bowman disappointed me but his clone at OU, Kelly, looks very good. Jaison Williams, Ore, is making himself a bunch of money. WRs are impossible after two weeks with this much talent. On Desean -- You may be misreading my Ginn comment. I wrote that post over a two hour period while doing other things. Calling Desean Ginn agin is a big compliment from me. I just think he's off to a little bit of a slow start and his stock may be falling a little. The punt return and reverse were great, but 8 yards a catch for no tds is... a slow start in the WR department, and scouts need more from him in that regard, imo.Huh?Grown in Minnesota -
You carried water for Ginn all last year and through the draft yet aren't willing to do it for Jackson?Too slow. In speed and quickness.
Interesting. I tend to think that's exactly a Jerry Jones thing to do. To fall in love with a player and then overpay or reach to get him.Colin Dowling said:
Jackson is more like Moss/Smith to me - more compact build, a little more hard-nosed than the lankier Ginn, which also translates to better lateral agility to get open. Jackson has that fifth gear, but there's more than just sizzle. With the ever-growing premium on speed, top 10 is not a reach.Andy Dufresne said:
Chaos Commish in 3....2.....kremenull said:
that top 30 is outstanding. You're making meChaos Commish said:
My comments in bold
Fantastic job, imo. Not in a draft order, but ranked, these are currently my top 30 draft eligible collegians.
1. James Laurinaitis (LB Ohio State) -- Freaked me out last week. What a player. I'm sure he'll fall from here as the season progresses, but he deserves props now. Awesome performance. Heads up IDPers. This kid has everything.
2. Darren McFadden (RB Arkansas) -- Didn't take long for me to come to my senses and make him RB1.
3. Andre Woodson (QB Kentucky) -- What he said
4. Glenn Dorsey (DT LSU) -- Guy to build a D around
5. Calais Campbell (DE Miami) -- Freak
6. Jake Long (OT Mich) -- Top LT looks very complete
7. Steve Slaton (RB WVU) -- Bush/Portis like package
8. Quentin Groves (DE Auburn) -- Fired out of a cannon
9. Kenny Phillips (S Miami) -- Great talent
10. Dan Connor (LB Penn St.) -- In the tradition
11. Brian Brohm (QB Louisville) -- Leinart, Cutler, Brohm, same basic grade.
12. Derrick Harvey (DE Florida) -- Disrupts everything
13. Sedric Ellis (DT USC) -- Makes everyone better
14. Barry Richardson (OT Clemson) -- Wide load with NFL power and athleticism
15. Malcolm Jenkins (CB Ohio State) -- I have ten cbs in a tight tier; he's the most complete
16. Michael Jenkins (CB USF) -- Or maybe this guy is. He's impressed me for 3 years now
17. Terrell Thomas (CB USC) -- Ultra athletic leader of Troy's D
18. Antoine Cason (CB Arizona) -- Very productive; these 4 seem cloned to me
19. Ray Rice (RB Rutgers) -- The Gore comparison looks accurate enough
20. Matt Ryan (QB BC) -- Stock soaring and rightfully so
21. Tommy Blake (DE Texas Tech) -- Needs to get healthy and right in the head, but so talented
22. Desean Jackson (WR Cal) -- Ginn agin...
23. Mario Manningham (WR Mich) -- difficult to pick WR1 so keepin' 'em together
24. Kieth Rivers (LB USC) -- Ernie Sims with cover skills
25. Rey Maualuga (LB USC) -- 255 pounds of Polamalu
26. Chris Long (DE Virginia) -- Looks excellent all around and explosive
27. Frank Okam (DT Texas) -- Solid, valuable interior lineman
28. Colt Brennan (QB Hawaii) -- More than a system product
29. Limas Sweed (WR Texas) -- I've liked him more than most for awhile
30. Jasper Brinkley (LB South Carolina) -- Big agressive beast in the middle
Crap that's 30. Would like to see some more OLs in there. There's good ones coming out. I also like a few of the smaller corners and think Flowers or Tribble could end up in the first round. WR and CB are a muddled mess of similar players hard to rank.
I came into this season think Muauluga was going to dominate and Laurinaitis was over rated. Two games in and the Buckeye looks like superstar and the Trojan is not playing instinctively.
That group of corners is too high.
Anyway, thanks again Colin. Is your alarm clock set for 4:30am?
for the draft and its not even week 3. I dont know what to tell you about Johnson, I just don't see the wiggle that he'll need to translate to the next level. At best, he's Chris Brown.
I am a proponent of taking the best available talent regardless of team need.I don't know if Jake Long would be the best available at their pick, but I can tell you their greatest needs are going to be DT and WR as semi distant second.Hopefully they will be able to get the best available and that player will happen to be a DT.
