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Are we on the verge of a the next waiver wire breakout? (1 Viewer)

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Kelly Holcomb - Is there a chance he plays well, manages the game well, and keeps the starting gig?
Yes, yes, and probably not. They are throwing Tarvaris in to get game experience. Basically a rebuilding year.Kelly Holcomb never got a fair shot anywhere. He's shown spots of greatness, 5 years ago, against KC no less, he threw for 362 and 3TDs. Obviously they are much different teams now, but he has shown that he could do it. He's getting a shot again this week, and has a good line to setup behind, WRs with potential, and a good running game. KC has a very average defense, after that their schedule is tough, but they do have games against Dal, NYG.

Troy Williamson WR MIN

Bobby Wade WR MIN

Robert Ferguson WR MIN

Any one of these could go off this week. If I had to guess, I'd put the money on Bobby Wade.

 
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Michael Clayton - he has done it before and has a decent QB. Clayton is impressing Gruden with his effort in blocking and doing the small things .. plus he is finally healthy.
You can officially close the book on this guy. I've had him for the last 3 years. After Gruden even came out last week to the media talking about "featuring him (Michael Clayton)", he still did nothing. Didn't even get in the box score if memory serves.
 
Michael Clayton - he has done it before and has a decent QB. Clayton is impressing Gruden with his effort in blocking and doing the small things .. plus he is finally healthy.
You can officially close the book on this guy. I've had him for the last 3 years. After Gruden even came out last week to the media talking about "featuring him (Michael Clayton)", he still did nothing. Didn't even get in the box score if memory serves.
Yes, close the book. He was just a flash in the pan....
 
Looking at people that should still be on any redraft WW:E GrahamG WolfeB CalhounL Booker
sorry but, horrible suggestionCurious if you're right though just the same
Just pointing guys that are on the WW (not like 95% of the players mentioned in this thread), play RB (position this thread has completely ignored), and could see some significant PT in the near future.I wasn't suggesting anything.
 
there will be breakouts this year but I just don't see a MJD/Colston type performance from anyone on the waiver wire. Most of the guys mentioned in this thread are one week wonders, if that.

 
Last year at this time is when Colston and MJD presented themselves to the world.Jones-Drew - Wk 3 - 135 total yards & 1 TDColston - Wk 1 - 49 yards & 1 TD & Wk 2 - 58 yards & 1 TD.So are we on the verge on any players following this pattern? Right now I can see Welker following in Colston's footsteps, but how about any RBs?What you got?
I think it's going to be Ward.Even when Jacobs comes back he could be in a situation comparable to Fred Taylor's last year. I see the Giants needing to keep defenses honest to open up their passing attack and with the possibility of the injury lingering my moneys on the Giants staying with Ward until he seriously lets them down.
 
Any thoughts on Buckhalter?

If i had bench space i might pick him up untill the westy situation plays out...

 
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Trap Play said:
Well, in the interest of going with someone other than those mentioned before, how about Dwayne Bowe.
I don't own Bowe in a single league ...plus I hate the Chiefs, but any time the ball comes near this guy, I think something great is gonna happen.Bowe will be a top 5 receiver Moose Muhammad some day.
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One said:
Trap Play said:
Well, in the interest of going with someone other than those mentioned before, how about Dwayne Bowe.
I don't own Bowe in a single league ...plus I hate the Chiefs, but any time the ball comes near this guy, I think something great is gonna happen.Bowe will be a top 5 receiver some day.
I read on here that he has bad hands. I can't remember who posted it, but is there any validity to that? He seems to have everything else.
Bad hands? No, that's exactly what his strength is. He's not a great route runner, he's not too fast, and he's not too elusive. He's a great possession receiver.
 
One said:
Trap Play said:
Well, in the interest of going with someone other than those mentioned before, how about Dwayne Bowe.
I don't own Bowe in a single league ...plus I hate the Chiefs, but any time the ball comes near this guy, I think something great is gonna happen.Bowe will be a top 5 receiver some day.
I read on here that he has bad hands. I can't remember who posted it, but is there any validity to that? He seems to have everything else.
Bad hands? No, that's exactly what his strength is. He's not a great route runner, he's not too fast, and he's not too elusive. He's a great possession receiver.
He could become a great possession receiver but I'll take exception to the bolded portion above.Not a KC or LSU homer here so take this opinion FWIW.

My observation of Bowe comes mostly from a handful of LSU games, pre-draft, HBO Hard Knocks, and NFL pre-season.

His pass-catching just doesn't pass the eyeball test to me. He fights the ball some.

I think he'll be very inconsistent catching the ball away from his body. This is something that can't be totally fixed IMO.

Now, I do get excited when the ball is in his hands. Baby-TO isn't Brandon Marshall, but it could be Dwayne Bowe.

I might be splitting hairs, or flat out wrong. Let's call it something to monitor if you have Bowe on your team or are interested in adding him.

 
Kelly Holcomb never got a fair shot anywhere. He's shown spots of greatness. Obviously they are much different teams now, but he has shown that he could do it. He's getting a shot again this week, and has a good line to setup behind, WRs with potential, and a good running game. KC has a very average defense.
I have two issues with you post.1) Minnesota's WRs have little "potential." If you'll excuse the cliche, they are what they are, which is garbage.

2) Kansas City's defense is better than average. You'll see that in the coming weeks.

 
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Rickey Williams. Might be a blown roster spot but he could be reinstated in as soon as two weeks. If the Dolphins keep him his value will be lower but if they release him as expected he will be open to go anywhere and since RB's are likely to go down in the next few weeks and teams like the Packers already in need of a good runner he could be a valuable commodity in the next few weeks. The leagues I play in are blind bidding only so if you wait until if/when he is reinstated it will be far more costly than stashing him.

I'd say over 90% of the players mentioned in this thread are not available in any league I play in with all of those leagues being 12 team, 20 roster spots.

 
PatytonsGhost said:
Cleat Spike said:
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The one that's getting a lot of waiver wire buzz this week and appears to be getting an opportunity to MJD it is Wynn. I'm just not sure if he can produce on a weekly level.
Only one person for DeShawn Wynn, and its lukewarm, I am surprised, the dude has a chance to take over with no one wanting the RB job, Brandon Jackson and Vernard Morency haven't done anything to show they deserve it. He had 2TD's and is averaging 5.3 yards I know its only one week vs the Giants but still a player needs to produce when given the chance and he has.Colston last year played Cleveland and Green Bay and everyone thought he was just lucky with an easy match up.
Not going to be easy for Wynn by any means. I'm putting stock in something else.Pack upcoming schedule: vs. SD, @MIN, vs. CHI, vs. WAS, BYE, @ JAC, @ CAR, vs. NWE
Cleat I agree those are tough matchups except WAS and Jac but my belief is anytime you can pick up a waiver wire RB that has a legitimate chance to compete for the starting job, you do it. Sure Jackson and Morency might be ahead of him in two weeks but for this week 3 he is a solid add, and you can always drop later
I don't know where you're getting that schedule for GB, but everything you've got after the bye week is wrong (not that @ DEN, @KC, vs. MIN is necessarily a whole lot easier for the GB RBs!):
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Sun., Sept. 23	  San Diego Chargers (Gold Pkg.)	  12 noon	  CBSSun., Sept. 30 	@ Minnesota Vikings 	12 noon 	FOXSun., Oct. 7 	Chicago Bears 	7:15 p.m. 	NBCSun., Oct. 14 	Washington Redskins 	12 noon 	FOXSun., Oct. 21 	Open Date 		   Mon., Oct. 29 	@ Denver Broncos 	7:30 p.m. 	ESPNSun., Nov. 4 	@ Kansas City Chiefs 	12 noon 	FOXSun., Nov. 11 	Minnesota Vikings (Gold Pkg.) 	12 noon 	FOX
 
sirpurr said:
Any thoughts on Buckhalter?If i had bench space i might pick him up untill the westy situation plays out...
Read something somewhere yesterday about Tony Hunt, Eagles 3rd round pick out of Penn State. Doesn't look like he was good enough to pass Buckhalter in camp, and he was deavtivated when they signed Mahe. With Westbrook always flirting with injury, is Buckhalter the guy who would take over or would they reactivate Hunt and give him a shot?
 
I'd seperate out the guys who are in good position because of potential injuries from guys who already have the opportunity and are ready to break out. Its tough enough to predict a talented sleeper, combine that with predicting injury and you have an even tougher job. We should all consider both, but unless im handcuffing i always give precidence to the guys who I think might break into my lineup via talent as opposed to injury.

 
RAIDERNATION said:
I have two issues with you post.

1) Minnesota's WRs have little "potential." If you'll excuse the cliche, they are what they are, which is garbage.

2) Kansas City's defense is better than average. You'll see that in the coming weeks.
This is only Troy Williamson's 3rd year in the league. His rookie year he wasn't starting, and last year he did OK with Brad Johnson throwing and not much of rushing game. Now they have a good running game, and a better o-line. Bobby Wade has had Cris Chandler, Craig Krenzel, Rex Grossman, Chad Hutchinson, Kyle Orton, Kerry Collins (TEN) and Vince Young throwing to him. Do you really think that's a good test of what a WR can do? When he had a decent passer, Kerry Collins, he looked good.I agree that KCs defense is probably better then what we've seen so far, unfortunately they are also going to be playing tired as hell because of their offense, in the HOU game the 4th quarter time of possession was KC 1:47, HOU 13:13, so end up being about an average group.

We'll see Sunday, but I've always thought Kelly Holcomb was a better QB then he's given credit for.

 
sirpurr said:
Any thoughts on Buckhalter?If i had bench space i might pick him up untill the westy situation plays out...
Read something somewhere yesterday about Tony Hunt, Eagles 3rd round pick out of Penn State. Doesn't look like he was good enough to pass Buckhalter in camp, and he was deavtivated when they signed Mahe. With Westbrook always flirting with injury, is Buckhalter the guy who would take over or would they reactivate Hunt and give him a shot?
I dont know, I was suprised to find Hunt on the WW in a deep dynasty league so I grabbed him as he was the last of the rookie class still out there. Buckhalter has never been very good and often dinged up. Even if he did well for a game or two, I couldnt see him having more long term value than Hunt. All though it doesnt look like Philly has been ready to use him for anything yet for whatever reason.
 
What about James Jones, GB WR? I know he tweaked his hammy but I beleive he could supplant Jennings and he should get some opportunites if he takes over the starter's job. He is my WR4 wher I start two but will be needed during a bye week.

I just picked him up in a 12-team league.

Shaun McDonald was also picke dup this week by another team.

 
What about James Jones, GB WR? I know he tweaked his hammy but I beleive he could supplant Jennings and he should get some opportunites if he takes over the starter's job. He is my WR4 wher I start two but will be needed during a bye week.I just picked him up in a 12-team league.
Did we just time warp back to August?
 
I will throw one out there. How about Koren Robinson? I may actually try and pick him up. He is scheduled to come off suspension in a few weeks, pending Goodell's approval. The Pack don't have a running game and all of their wr's besides Driver are hurt, and are young.

 
No, there is no relevance of last year's week 3 to this year's just like there wasn't one two years ago to lead you to think last year something was going to happen in that week 3.

 
No, there is no relevance of last year's week 3 to this year's just like there wasn't one two years ago to lead you to think last year something was going to happen in that week 3.
I'm trying to fit Dwayne Bowe in on my roster with injuries to Jacobs and Andre Johnson.. is Devery Henderson worth giving up on for Dwayne Bowe? Is Leon Washington.. a semi-breakout candidate last year.. officially buried? He looked explosive in preseason.
 
No, there is no relevance of last year's week 3 to this year's just like there wasn't one two years ago to lead you to think last year something was going to happen in that week 3.
I'm trying to fit Dwayne Bowe in on my roster with injuries to Jacobs and Andre Johnson.. is Devery Henderson worth giving up on for Dwayne Bowe? Is Leon Washington.. a semi-breakout candidate last year.. officially buried? He looked explosive in preseason.
I don't like Devery Henderson, so the question becomes do I like Dwayne Bowe? I know there's hype and behind that hype there's ability on his part. I do believe he's going to be good. More than being good, can the Kansas City Chiefs get him the ball, because the opportunity will be there since they will often find themselves throwing while behind in 2nd half of games.So yes, I like Dwayne Bowe over Devery Henderson.I liked Leon Washington last year and I think he still has that same ability. Thomas Jones is there also and unfortunately for the Jets, they often find themselves playing from behind. That more than not leads to passing the ball.So, right now we're talking about a guy who's getting less than half the carries and plays for a team that is usually playing catch up which means less running.To answer that question, I think your "Dead and Buried" statement is a little strong, I wouldn't count him as Dead and Buried but for him to become a starter for your team either Jones has to get injured or the Jets need to play better defense so they're in more running situations throughout the game and aren't throwing most of the 2nd half.Hope that helped.
 
RAIDERNATION said:
I have two issues with you post.

1) Minnesota's WRs have little "potential." If you'll excuse the cliche, they are what they are, which is garbage.

2) Kansas City's defense is better than average. You'll see that in the coming weeks.
This is only Troy Williamson's 3rd year in the league. His rookie year he wasn't starting, and last year he did OK with Brad Johnson throwing and not much of rushing game. Now they have a good running game, and a better o-line. Bobby Wade has had Cris Chandler, Craig Krenzel, Rex Grossman, Chad Hutchinson, Kyle Orton, Kerry Collins (TEN) and Vince Young throwing to him. Do you really think that's a good test of what a WR can do? When he had a decent passer, Kerry Collins, he looked good.I agree that KCs defense is probably better then what we've seen so far, unfortunately they are also going to be playing tired as hell because of their offense, in the HOU game the 4th quarter time of possession was KC 1:47, HOU 13:13, so end up being about an average group.

We'll see Sunday, but I've always thought Kelly Holcomb was a better QB then he's given credit for.
Time will tell, but Holcomb did some damage in BUF in some games. He could make Wade and Williamson into a possible Top 50 duo...certainly worthy of a WW p/u.
 
Great topic Rounders. I agree that Roydell Williams is a good pick to emerge this week, but it might just be a "this week" only thing. We'll see.

Obviously these aren't WW players, but...

Braylon Edwards came on last week, so maybe this is the week Santonio Holmes has a 100-yd 2 TD game.
Dwayne Bowe has a legit chance to begin his rites of passage as an emerging WR in the league
Arnaz Battle is another WR that I think might have a nice game @ PIT. If Alex Smith can figure it out, at least.
Bernard Berrian could have a nice game against allas. That's right. There's no "D" in Dallas right now.
Demetrius Williams has yet to show his true stuff yet. The coaches and staff are real high on him. Week 3 could be his coming out
Vincent Jackson against Green Bay. I would not be surprised to see Al Harris cover Gates, which would put Woodson on Jackson. I'm waiting for Jackson to arrive. I still think he'll be good.
One of Santana Moss or Antwaan Randle El is due for a big game against the Giants. Possibly both. Should be a great passing matchup there.
Watch the injury report on Battle and Demetrius....
Ehhh Demetruis, I still like the dude but he has been surpassed by M. Clayton as #3 cuz M.C healthy supposedly and the QB situation is highly unstable, not to mention Heap is stealing receptions plus Willis McGahee getting a lot of touches. Not this year for me, I dropped him.
Umm..I'm pretty sure Clayton is their #1 WR when healthy. DeW has been basically playing as the #2 because of Clayton's injury. He should still see the field a good amount, but I'd call Clayton their #1I really want to drop Tatum for Bowe or Roydell, but I just can't pull the trigger or figure out which to pull the trigger on

 
Has anyone picked up Antonio Bryant yet. I havent read he was working out for anyone.
Not yet. And don't wait until they do. Make the room now and drop him if it's a completely unfavorable situation. If you wait, it may be too late.
I think you can wait and see on Bryant. When he gets picked up, he'll take a couple of weeks to learn the offense, and even then he'll probably be buried on the depth chart for awhile.
 
Cleat Spike said:
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The one that's getting a lot of waiver wire buzz this week and appears to be getting an opportunity to MJD it is Wynn. I'm just not sure if he can produce on a weekly level.
Only one person for DeShawn Wynn, and its lukewarm, I am surprised, the dude has a chance to take over with no one wanting the RB job, Brandon Jackson and Vernard Morency haven't done anything to show they deserve it. He had 2TD's and is averaging 5.3 yards I know its only one week vs the Giants but still a player needs to produce when given the chance and he has.Colston last year played Cleveland and Green Bay and everyone thought he was just lucky with an easy match up.
Not going to be easy for Wynn by any means. I'm putting stock in something else.Pack upcoming schedule: vs. SD, @MIN, vs. CHI, vs. WAS, BYE, @ JAC, @ CAR, vs. NWE
Was at home is winnable, Jac is a mess - Del Rio death watch; he's lost the team. The rest of the schedule is difficult, but I don't see anybody blowing out GB.
 
Looking at people that should still be on any redraft WW:E GrahamG WolfeB CalhounL Booker
sorry but, horrible suggestionCurious if you're right though just the same
Just pointing guys that are on the WW (not like 95% of the players mentioned in this thread), play RB (position this thread has completely ignored), and could see some significant PT in the near future.I wasn't suggesting anything.
daring(lack of better word)All in all, I liked itETA sorry it seems so hypocritical
 
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Rickey Williams. Might be a blown roster spot but he could be reinstated in as soon as two weeks. If the Dolphins keep him his value will be lower but if they release him as expected he will be open to go anywhere and since RB's are likely to go down in the next few weeks and teams like the Packers already in need of a good runner he could be a valuable commodity in the next few weeks. The leagues I play in are blind bidding only so if you wait until if/when he is reinstated it will be far more costly than stashing him.I'd say over 90% of the players mentioned in this thread are not available in any league I play in with all of those leagues being 12 team, 20 roster spots.
I wouldn't think he has anything left. Why do you think he may be productive?
 
Great topic Rounders. I agree that Roydell Williams is a good pick to emerge this week, but it might just be a "this week" only thing. We'll see.

Obviously these aren't WW players, but...

Braylon Edwards came on last week, so maybe this is the week Santonio Holmes has a 100-yd 2 TD game.
Dwayne Bowe has a legit chance to begin his rites of passage as an emerging WR in the league
Arnaz Battle is another WR that I think might have a nice game @ PIT. If Alex Smith can figure it out, at least.
Bernard Berrian could have a nice game against allas. That's right. There's no "D" in Dallas right now.
Demetrius Williams has yet to show his true stuff yet. The coaches and staff are real high on him. Week 3 could be his coming out
Vincent Jackson against Green Bay. I would not be surprised to see Al Harris cover Gates, which would put Woodson on Jackson. I'm waiting for Jackson to arrive. I still think he'll be good.
One of Santana Moss or Antwaan Randle El is due for a big game against the Giants. Possibly both. Should be a great passing matchup there.
Watch the injury report on Battle and Demetrius....
Ehhh Demetruis, I still like the dude but he has been surpassed by M. Clayton as #3 cuz M.C healthy supposedly and the QB situation is highly unstable, not to mention Heap is stealing receptions plus Willis McGahee getting a lot of touches. Not this year for me, I dropped him.
Umm..I'm pretty sure Clayton is their #1 WR when healthy. DeW has been basically playing as the #2 because of Clayton's injury. He should still see the field a good amount, but I'd call Clayton their #1I really want to drop Tatum for Bowe or Roydell, but I just can't pull the trigger or figure out which to pull the trigger on
D-Bo!! He will take the #1 job and not looK back. D-Bo should not be on waivers IMO
 
Here they are in order:

#1 D. Ward- Brandon who??

#2 Wes Welker- He will have at least 9 targets every game you watch, Brady loves him!

#3 Terry Glenn- Just picked him up. Everyone has given up on him, but I haven't for late in the season. The dude in tough!

peace...

 

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