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LordOpie
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Seriously, anyone who says that Shanny prefers RBBC needs a boot upside the head.
Stop it already.
Stop it already.
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The Travis Henry waiting Game (1 Viewer)
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duaneok66
Footballguy
that would be too easy . . . I assume Young is taken in most 12 teamers . . .
circelli17
Footballguy
Henry played a half with the Bills with a fractured tibia that he knew was broken. He is one of the toughest RBs out there. Injuries happen, but if you had to pick one guy you knew could suck it up and play through injuries my vote would go to Henry
ScoobyDoo
Footballguy
So, I heard the MRI happened and we don't get to see the results. I suppose this means that Shanny is playing games with us all which means we won't know anything until it is too late. So, if you're desperate or have a big bench and can get Young, get him. Otherwise prepare to start someone else.
switz
Footballguy
I heard that he has a strained MCL and will miss at least 4 games... but that could be totally off base (not from a reliable source IMO)
Mind telling us who the source is, anyhow?
switz
Footballguy
One of Henry's babies mamas
No seriously, I used to live in Buffalo, and know some people who know some people in the circle Henry used to hang with. Like I said, I didn't think it was reliable, just that that's what I had heard.
footballnerd
Footballguy
i dont know about you all, but i'm throwing a big bid on claiming young off my waivers. hope i win. LT and Young running during the playoffs could be huge. Not to say Henry will go down, but this seems like the year everyone is getting hurt. I dont remember the last time I saw so many injuries to big name players. I think NFL players are not only getting bigger, but faster and thats whats leading to more injuries. Linebackers that run a 4.3, thats scary.
laughinboy_2000
Footballguy
Maybe this has already been discussed here but I'm too lazy to search for it. 
Did Travis Henry finish the Colts game or was Young on the field?
Did Travis Henry finish the Colts game or was Young on the field?
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AnonymousBob
Footballguy
This thread is painful.
Da Masses
Footballguy
Yeah he came back and ran for 10 more yards.Maybe this has already been discussed here but I'm too lazy to search for it.
packersfan
Footballguy
This would be pretty big if true. Keep us posted will ya switz? Even if it doesn't prove to be entirely on the mark it's likely to be more info than we'll get out of Shanahan this week.One of Henry's babies mamas
War Eagle
Footballguy
And looked just as quick when he made the cut on that run! He's good to go, I'd say.Yeah he came back and ran for 10 more yards.Maybe this has already been discussed here but I'm too lazy to search for it.Did Travis Henry finish the Colts game or was Young on the field?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Been away from the computer all day...is this all rumor? I saw nothing at redzone and they usually post things...they were on top of the Delhomme injury for example. Is this Shark Pool hysteria?
Gopher State
Footballguy
Broncos Injury Update; RB Henry Gets Good News
Frank Schwab, Colorado Springs Gazette - [Full Article]
Denver Broncos RB Travis Henry had a magnetic resonance imaging test on his injured right leg, but no damage was found to the knee or ankle. Still, the team held him out of practice today and HC Mike Shanahan said he didn't know whether Henry would practice Thursday. WR Javon Walker was also out today, but S John Lynch was participating during the early part of practice that is open to the media. Shanahan was hesitant to indicate if he thought either one would play Sunday against San Diego. "Any time you have a groin and a hamstring you don't know for sure until somebody practices," Shanahan said. "Can you go full speed and how much can you work it.
Good news so far
Frank Schwab, Colorado Springs Gazette - [Full Article]
Denver Broncos RB Travis Henry had a magnetic resonance imaging test on his injured right leg, but no damage was found to the knee or ankle. Still, the team held him out of practice today and HC Mike Shanahan said he didn't know whether Henry would practice Thursday. WR Javon Walker was also out today, but S John Lynch was participating during the early part of practice that is open to the media. Shanahan was hesitant to indicate if he thought either one would play Sunday against San Diego. "Any time you have a groin and a hamstring you don't know for sure until somebody practices," Shanahan said. "Can you go full speed and how much can you work it.
Good news so far
Max Power
Footballguy
Question about MRIs, maybe someone knows.
If there is a good amount fo swelling in the area that you are having your MRI done on, could that mask some of the damage that has been done to your ligaments?
I ony bring this up because the "insider info" was that another MRI has to be done on Thursday for this reason. and the Press release did not say the MRI was negative, just that the doctors did not see any damage.
If there is a good amount fo swelling in the area that you are having your MRI done on, could that mask some of the damage that has been done to your ligaments?
I ony bring this up because the "insider info" was that another MRI has to be done on Thursday for this reason. and the Press release did not say the MRI was negative, just that the doctors did not see any damage.
SteelerMurf
Footballguy
there is no such thing as this "insider info"
Gopher State
Footballguy
I can't seem to find the "insider info" link anywhere, are we missing something?
Max Power
Footballguy
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=349809It was a popular thread around here today. 5 pages long mostly garbage. Its locked right now, but go ahead and read post 1 and besides that, the following is the only other thing in the thread even worth your time.
He is scheduled for another MRI on Thursday..........so I'll keep my ears open. He was in a brace and did very little today....................I was told he is not likely to play because they know he has a torn MCL in his right knee but with all the swelling they are not sure about his ACL yet. So pick up SYoung but dont dump Henry yet........he may just miss 2-4 weeks if his ACL is OK
It just peeked my interest and thats why I bring it up again.
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Chaka
Footballguy
Welcome aboard Fnerd. What the other self-styled board cop meant was that the Shark Pool (the forum this Travis Henry thread is in) is not the place to ask questions about trades or who you should start between two players. The appropriate forum for those questions is called the Assistant Coaches Forum, which is dedicated to that type of talk.Enjoy your stay, don't let the board cops get to you.footballnerd said:
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Despite some board clowns laughing this off, it's actually a very good question. Anybody know how much damage could be masked by swelling?
SteelerMurf
Footballguy
who says there is swelling?
Sooch
Footballguy
If the swelling subsides and goes down, most likely it is a minor strain/tear. Moderate tear will swell more as time passes. Severe would be not being able to walk, hear popping sounds, stuff like that. If he needs an arthroscopy, that is trouble. That means the doc wants to view more of the structure and the test can be painful and the joint/area can bleed and get infected. Being that Henry wasn't in a lot of pain, I am guessing the best case scenario as far as injuries go.Getting most of this info from webmd.com and called a doc friend.
SteelerMurf
Footballguy
You will have to ask your doc friend....if there is too much swelling to get anything out of an MRI, wouldn't it be inconclusive and not negative. I don't believe this "insider info" at all.
Addai's Adidas
Footballguy
I busted up my knee this summer. Went to the ER and took X-rays, they were negative. I asked about an MRI and was told it's too swollen to get a good look, the fluid masks what they are trying to see. Took a wait and see approach on the MRI. I am sure if I was a pro athlete (or willing to pay for it myself) I could have had one.
War Eagle
Footballguy
Nice try, I hope this was an attempt at humor as well.The MRIs came back negative today.Travis Henry (ankle, knee) missed Broncos practice Wednesday.Henry's MRI came back negative, but he was "a little bit sore," coach Mike Shanahan said after practice. Check on Henry's status later in the week.Source: denverbroncos.com Maybe that trade is more due to the fact that CJ was wearing a walking boot today, is on a bye, and Andre is a beast child who is coming back soon. Oh, plus he gets Young and Curry. No wonder he's won 3 times.....benm3218 said:
I told you I had no proof and that I was just passing along hearsay. The story is that the MRI info you and others are reading is not 100% accurate or the whole story. I personally would rather have Chad Johnson than Andre Johnson. Andre is out this week so the bye does not contribute to the trade....
you also have to ask yourself if Shanny would really say all that he knows. You also have to ask yourself if you want to believe a beat writer who is writing what he's been told by,,,,wait for it,,,Shanny.Nothing is for certain yet, IMO. Even if Henry comes up clean with the next MRI, the odds are diminished that he plays on Sunday (we'll know more when we see if he practices).Until then, it's not a bad idea to have an insurance policy in place (Selvin Young).Information can turn around pretty fast in the NFL.
Chaka
Footballguy
This Charger team should give most pause. The talent is there and they are getting ripped badly in the local media. If there is a shred of pride in that locker room, and I think there is, they could rally strong starting this week. Remember despite how bad they have been they are only one game back in the division giving them a lot to play for.Denver has had difficulty getting into the end zone and more difficulty putting teams away when they have the advantage. Their defense has not played the run well at all either.I love the past production the Denver system has shown for RBs but as we all know The Franklin Mint does not guarantee that past performances will reflect future returns.If I had better options I would go with them.
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SSOG
Moderator
If Young was "clearly" good (and by good, I mean anywhere near as good as Henry), then Young would be getting more carries right now, end of story. As it stands now, Henry has almost SIX TIMES as many carries as Young- just shows you how CLEAR it is that Young is so good.I love how people think that coaches just completely disregard everything they saw in 2 months of training camps and 4 preseason games all in favor of what may have happened in one regular season game.
Henry's currently getting 76% of the team RB carries. That's more than Clinton Portis ever got, and it's more than Terrell Davis got in two of his four seasons. Whether Henry is TD or not, he's currently getting used as heavily as TD ever was. That's a fact.
Another factor worth mentioning is that Denver has historically struggled running against 3-4 defenses.
PranksterJD
Footballguy
I raise you 2003 Larry Johnson ( 20 carries ) under Priest ( 320 carries ), 2002 Rudi Johnson ( 17 carries ) under Corey Dillon (314 carries), and 2001 Deuce McAllister ( 16 carries ) under Ricky Williams ( 313 carries ). I could go on.Now, I'm not saying Selvin is anywhere near these guys in terms of talent, but sometimes the veteran player get the reps because he's proven. That's not a bad thing, but it doesn't mean the rookie doesn't have ability.
SSOG
Moderator
Some players improve, and others regress. I'm not saying that Selvin won't beat out Henry for the #1 job NEXT year... I'm simply saying he's not going to do it this year. If he was going to eat a significant enough chunk of Henry's carries to make a difference in Henry's fantasy value, he would have begun to do so by now. The coaching staff has been watching him for months and they have concluded this is how often he should be used, so I doubt that a single game would be enough to dramatically change their minds.
PranksterJD
Footballguy
I can buy most of that, though I doubt Selvin ever **beats out** Henry for the starting spot. Injuries or trades are likely the only way Young sees a majority of carries.However, there are several instances as well where backup RBs get into game situations and show more than their coaches expected. For instance, Brandon Jacobs would have run the lion's share of NYG's carries this year if he'd not gotten hurt, and this is how often the coaches concluded he should be used. But it seems evident with Ward's fill-in performances that he's going to steal some carries from Jacobs, if not turn the situation into a complete RBBC. This type of stuff happens all the time.
Several people in this thread have said that Shanny doesn't want to run a committee, and I agree with that, so I really don't see Selvin having much value this year unless Henry misses significant time. But... with Henry's prior injuries and that 76% carry rate that you mentioned, I took a flier on Young in every place I could afford it. If Henry's fine, I only lost Leinart, Porter, Colts D.... whatever. If Henry is or gets hurt though, I might have struck WW gold.
southeastjerome
Footballguy
Very true. People seem to forget that Henry leads the league in rushing. Why on earth would that put him in a position to be benched? An injury, that's about it.
Fireman Ed
Footballguy
this is true and the only reason it happened with Bell is because he could not hang on to the pigskin. He wouldve cemented his spot and still been on the team had he not kept putting it on the carpet.
varmint cong
Footballguy
the updated site projections has Young starting over Henry, am i missing something here?
SuperJohn96
RPS World Champion
Nice catch...I could have had him from waivers last night, but decided against it because of this post on Yahoo Sports last night:
What gives?
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Young was just dropped last night in my big league for Earnie Graham. I've got to gauge Young versus the RB I'd drop and there seems to be alot of differing opinions around here.Addai's Adidas
Footballguy
You can't have positive result on an MRI if the area is so swollen you can't tell. Thus it was negative.
RBM
Footballguy
Too swollen? Where did you get that from?
