vikingdave
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traded SJax for AP two weeks ago...pretty happy with it now...
with double cheeseI'd need a pizza a week for life.
I may love AP, but for Gore, SJax, Boldin, and two '08 1st round picks, I don't see how you could say no.I have been shopping players around in a second year dynasty and I EARNED my 1.01 dynasty rook pick. I didn't trade for it, I wallowed in 13 games of misery last season to aquire it. That being said I am at the top of my division, I believe one more win clinches for me (yes that far ahead) and have been shopping AP and Randy Moss in the hopes of getting a better distribution of starters as we can start 3 rbs or 4 wrs. scoring is fairly standard.
My backs are: ADP, Travis Henry, Priest Holmes, Tiki Barber (don't ask), Warrick Dunn, Chris Brown, Michael Robinson, Musa Smith, Kevan Barlow, Darius Walker, Leonard Weaver.
Deep rosters btw.
I have a guy interested in ADP who has 4 1sts next year and Frank Gore, SJax, Ronnie Brown.
I have been worried all day about offereing ADP for Sjax, Gore, 2 '08 firsts and maybe Boldin. Not because I think he will reject it, but in the off chance he accepts it. Weird how things change in 8 weeks...
You offered a championship and he said no? I'm an AP owner and I would've done that and laughed all the way to the bank.14 TEAM Dynasty :I offered LaDainian TomlinsonWillis McGaheeTorry Holtfor Peterson-------------declined.
I was stunned, and actually relieved that he declined.I sent the offer in a moment of pure delusion.You offered a championship and he said no? I'm an AP owner and I would've done that and laughed all the way to the bank.14 TEAM Dynasty :I offered LaDainian TomlinsonWillis McGaheeTorry Holtfor Peterson-------------declined.
I offered. He will reject most likely and I will commence breathing again. I only offered because my original assessment of my team this year was I would be in the running for McFadden. My team looked that bad until the NFL draft and a few off-season NFL trades. My team isn't stacked but I am playoff bound and 1st in points. Hate to upset the cart on a championship run.I may love AP, but for Gore, SJax, Boldin, and two '08 1st round picks, I don't see how you could say no.I have been shopping players around in a second year dynasty and I EARNED my 1.01 dynasty rook pick. I didn't trade for it, I wallowed in 13 games of misery last season to aquire it. That being said I am at the top of my division, I believe one more win clinches for me (yes that far ahead) and have been shopping AP and Randy Moss in the hopes of getting a better distribution of starters as we can start 3 rbs or 4 wrs. scoring is fairly standard.
My backs are: ADP, Travis Henry, Priest Holmes, Tiki Barber (don't ask), Warrick Dunn, Chris Brown, Michael Robinson, Musa Smith, Kevan Barlow, Darius Walker, Leonard Weaver.
Deep rosters btw.
I have a guy interested in ADP who has 4 1sts next year and Frank Gore, SJax, Ronnie Brown.
I have been worried all day about offereing ADP for Sjax, Gore, 2 '08 firsts and maybe Boldin. Not because I think he will reject it, but in the off chance he accepts it. Weird how things change in 8 weeks...
How are you better off now that Peterson is injured and most likely out for the season?I made a trade for ADP Saturday before our leagues trade deadline. I paid a heafty price but expect that I am better for it. 16 team dynastyGore, Megatron, 2008 1st, 2009 1st forADPMy starters going forward are now.Romo SJax, Peterson (Selvin Young/Foster)Welker, CotcheryCooley.
How are you better off now that Peterson is injured and most likely out for the season?I made a trade for ADP Saturday before our leagues trade deadline. I paid a heafty price but expect that I am better for it. 16 team dynasty
Gore, Megatron, 2008 1st, 2009 1st for
ADP
My starters going forward are now.
Romo
SJax, Peterson (Selvin Young/Foster)
Welker, Cotchery
Cooley.
How are you better off now that Peterson is injured and most likely out for the season?I made a trade for ADP Saturday before our leagues trade deadline. I paid a heafty price but expect that I am better for it. 16 team dynasty
Gore, Megatron, 2008 1st, 2009 1st for
ADP
My starters going forward are now.
Romo
SJax, Peterson (Selvin Young/Foster)
Welker, Cotchery
Cooley.![]()
You've got to be kidding. You have to realize that this is a distinct possibility.How are you better off now that Peterson is injured and most likely out for the season?I made a trade for ADP Saturday before our leagues trade deadline. I paid a heafty price but expect that I am better for it. 16 team dynasty
Gore, Megatron, 2008 1st, 2009 1st for
ADP
My starters going forward are now.
Romo
SJax, Peterson (Selvin Young/Foster)
Welker, Cotchery
Cooley.![]()
A "possibility"...? Sure. "Most likely?" Hardly.You've got to be kidding. You have to realize that this is a distinct possibility.How are you better off now that Peterson is injured and most likely out for the season?I made a trade for ADP Saturday before our leagues trade deadline. I paid a heafty price but expect that I am better for it. 16 team dynasty
Gore, Megatron, 2008 1st, 2009 1st for
ADP
My starters going forward are now.
Romo
SJax, Peterson (Selvin Young/Foster)
Welker, Cotchery
Cooley.![]()
Way to back up your speculation, guy!How are you better off now that Peterson is injured and most likely out for the season?I made a trade for ADP Saturday before our leagues trade deadline. I paid a heafty price but expect that I am better for it. 16 team dynasty
Gore, Megatron, 2008 1st, 2009 1st for
ADP
My starters going forward are now.
Romo
SJax, Peterson (Selvin Young/Foster)
Welker, Cotchery
Cooley.![]()
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Yikes, way more than I'd ever pay (would need the picks near #16 over-all).I made a trade for ADP Saturday before our leagues trade deadline. I paid a heafty price but expect that I am better for it. 16 team dynastyGore, Megatron, 2008 1st, 2009 1st forADP
An elite WR, particularly Moss or Wayne, possibly Edwards, CJ, Roy Williams and probably a pretty high pick for next year or maybe another impact player. Minimum.Any Peterson owners care to chime in on what it might take to move him if Brian Westbrook were involved?
..here we go.So who else got mad value for selling glassman to the delusional?
Well in the very near term I am not better off due to the injury. Howerver you should take note that this is a dynasty discussion and so the future is seldom right now. His injury really doesn't hurt his value to any real extent.I dont want to turn this into a disscussion about my team, I wanted to include it as a reference so Others could can see that the two draft picks that I gave up will most likely be late round picks. ADP trades are going to be risky and involve a lot of talant. I'm just trying to help others out in trying to determine the ADP futures market.How are you better off now that Peterson is injured and most likely out for the season?I made a trade for ADP Saturday before our leagues trade deadline. I paid a heafty price but expect that I am better for it. 16 team dynastyGore, Megatron, 2008 1st, 2009 1st forADPMy starters going forward are now.Romo SJax, Peterson (Selvin Young/Foster)Welker, CotcheryCooley.
Hey I tried to warn you, going rate in a dynasty league was 5 first round picks. If you sold he bombs or gets hurt you still have 5 first round players. If he is still awesome you still have 5 first round players...here we go.So who else got mad value for selling glassman to the delusional?![]()
Me I like to win, now.Well in the very near term I am not better off due to the injury. Howerver you should take note that this is a dynasty discussion and so the future is seldom right now. His injury really doesn't hurt his value to any real extent.I dont want to turn this into a disscussion about my team, I wanted to include it as a reference so Others could can see that the two draft picks that I gave up will most likely be late round picks.How are you better off now that Peterson is injured and most likely out for the season?I made a trade for ADP Saturday before our leagues trade deadline. I paid a heafty price but expect that I am better for it. 16 team dynasty
Gore, Megatron, 2008 1st, 2009 1st for
ADP
My starters going forward are now.
Romo
SJax, Peterson (Selvin Young/Foster)
Welker, Cotchery
Cooley.
ADP trades are going to be risky and involve a lot of talant. I'm just trying to help others out in trying to determine the ADP futures market.
Westbrook owner, and I'm not 100% convinced that I'd trade him for Peterson straight up. I mean, I'd probably do it sooner or later, mostly because Peterson is so much younger... but the point is that I'd have to think about it. Once you started asking me to include additional players, I'd shut down negotiations right there. Peterson might have looked like a stud for 8 games, but Westbrook has looked like every bit as much of a stud for 4 years.Any Peterson owners care to chime in on what it might take to move him if Brian Westbrook were involved?
Come on, man. Peterson is 22 years old, and had 1000 yards in his first 8 games. Westbrook only has one 1000 yard season in his career. I'm an Eagles' fan, and love Westbrook...but this is ridiculous. I wouldn't trade Peterson, period.Westbrook owner, and I'm not 100% convinced that I'd trade him for Peterson straight up. I mean, I'd probably do it sooner or later, mostly because Peterson is so much younger... but the point is that I'd have to think about it. Once you started asking me to include additional players, I'd shut down negotiations right there. Peterson might have looked like a stud for 8 games, but Westbrook has looked like every bit as much of a stud for 4 years.Any Peterson owners care to chime in on what it might take to move him if Brian Westbrook were involved?
Westbrook owner, and I'm not 100% convinced that I'd trade him for Peterson straight up. I mean, I'd probably do it sooner or later, mostly because Peterson is so much younger... but the point is that I'd have to think about it. Once you started asking me to include additional players, I'd shut down negotiations right there. Peterson might have looked like a stud for 8 games, but Westbrook has looked like every bit as much of a stud for 4 years.Any Peterson owners care to chime in on what it might take to move him if Brian Westbrook were involved?
does your league take away points for 200 yard rushing games?it depends on the league, but i could see not giving up westbrook for peterson straight up. westbrook is going to get 50 catches per year. doesn't like like peterson is that stratosphere yet.
for shame!I have no problems making trades to win it all, but only those I'd do if I stayed in.I received these offers for Peterson today in a 6 player keeper PPR league.
Westbrook and andre davis
for
Peterson and Berrian
Benson , Boldin and Chambers
for
Peterson, Berrian and Seahawks D
McNabb, Willie Parker and Sidney Rice
for
Peterson and Derek Anderson
the only reason I would consider any of these is the fact that I have been planning for some time to drop out of this league at the end of the season.
plus, I am 9-1 and want to win it all this year.
that essentially equates to a whole bunch of good/very good players for 4 stud players. good move.last night I was offered Ronnie Brown, McGahee, Rudi, Grant, Graham, TJ Housh, Cotchery, and a 1st rounder next year for AP, Bush, Randy Moss, and AJ. I turned it down as soon as my brain saw the words Bush and AP.![]()
Actually, that essentially equates to "here, you take my team and I'll take yours".that essentially equates to a whole bunch of good/very good players for 4 stud players. good move.last night I was offered Ronnie Brown, McGahee, Rudi, Grant, Graham, TJ Housh, Cotchery, and a 1st rounder next year for AP, Bush, Randy Moss, and AJ. I turned it down as soon as my brain saw the words Bush and AP.![]()
Last I heard, receiving yards count just as much as rushing yards.Adrian Peterson yards per game- 144.6Brian Westbrook yards per game- 152.4 (and the same number of TDs in one fewer game).Westbrook also plays in a better offense with a better QB and a better head coach (although I suppose both could very easily be gone after this season). He's got more talent around him, and the fact that he's a dual-threat means he's tougher to shut down. He has been EVERY BIT as good as Adrian Peterson this year, and he has a track record to back it up and demonstrate that it's not a fluke.Another thing to keep in mind is that Adrian Peterson is averaging 6.4 yards per carry right now. Stuff like that is possible over an 8-game sample, but he's guaranteed to return to earth. Barry Sanders never in his career averaged 6.4, and only once did he average over 6. Only once did Jim Brown average 6.4 (it was also the only time he broke 6.0). Gale Sayers only broke 6.0 once, and never reached 6.4. Even the best, most explosive backs in the history of the sport of football cannot maintain performance at the level Peterson is performing at right now for more than a single season, at most. He'll get more carries in the future, which will offset the decreased ypc, but increase his chance of getting injured. Westy gets a lot of his touches in the passing game, and Football Outsiders did a study which showed that RBs who catch a lot of passes aren't more likely to regress than RBs who get a lot of carries. I also don't buy the "he's a rookie, so he'll probably improve" point for runningbacks. They tend to come into the league at full-strength. There's not much of a learning curve involved.Now, I *would* trade Westy for Peterson eventually, because Peterson is significantly younger, but the point I'm making is that Westbrook is a top-3 Dynasty RB in my mind, and the difference between Peterson and the other elite studs in dynasty is nowhere near what everyone in this thread is making it out to be. If Westbrook were 3 years younger, I would rank him ahead of Peterson.If you start talking about PPR, then fugheddaboudit. That's like giving Westbrook a 7-TD head start.Come on, man. Peterson is 22 years old, and had 1000 yards in his first 8 games. Westbrook only has one 1000 yard season in his career. I'm an Eagles' fan, and love Westbrook...but this is ridiculous. I wouldn't trade Peterson, period.Westbrook owner, and I'm not 100% convinced that I'd trade him for Peterson straight up. I mean, I'd probably do it sooner or later, mostly because Peterson is so much younger... but the point is that I'd have to think about it. Once you started asking me to include additional players, I'd shut down negotiations right there. Peterson might have looked like a stud for 8 games, but Westbrook has looked like every bit as much of a stud for 4 years.Any Peterson owners care to chime in on what it might take to move him if Brian Westbrook were involved?
Nah, just yawning at an absurd response. Your response to my statement couldn't possibly merit insight.Way to back up your speculation, guy!How are you better off now that Peterson is injured and most likely out for the season?I made a trade for ADP Saturday before our leagues trade deadline. I paid a heafty price but expect that I am better for it. 16 team dynasty
Gore, Megatron, 2008 1st, 2009 1st for
ADP
My starters going forward are now.
Romo
SJax, Peterson (Selvin Young/Foster)
Welker, Cotchery
Cooley.![]()
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