BusterTBronco
Footballguy
Can't imagine he's in good FB shape after being out of the game for so long.
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Ricky is back (1 Viewer)
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bollocks28
Footballguy
Nope. They're exactly the same.I agree about yoga but doing yoga and getting hit by a 250 lb linebacker that runs a 4.6 40 maybe slightly different.This has a kernel of truth, actually. Anyone who thinks Yoga is easy is out of their mind.Uhhh, it appears you have never done yoga before. Yoga alone gets you into shape by kickin' your butt...if he has been doing anything ontop of that....Watch out!Do you really think he's in football shape?Do you really think the Dolphins are going to welcome him back?Do you really believe half of the crap you post on this board?
I don't see Williams as a gym rat kinda guy.
bcr8f
Footballguy
No but Ricky is always in condition and in great regular shape. When he was out before it took him a couple weeks to get in football shape. A good fantasy playoff acquisition.
It will make for a good "Team of Destiny" next year when they win the Super Bowl.Go phins!
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Once he stopped getting the munchies it was easy for him to keep off his weight so he is ready to go in 2 weeksI think you might be underestimating how badly he wants to play again. I heard him on an interview earlier this fall, he was working out and at 225 lbs (the lower end of his playing weight). I think he'll be ready to play, I don't think Cameron will be very eager to put him in.Do you really think he's in football shape?Do you really think the Dolphins are going to welcome him back?Do you really believe half of the crap you post on this board?
I don't see Williams as a gym rat kinda guy.
trader jake
Footballguy
I throw this out and see what you guys think...
If/when the Dolphins release Ricky Williams I could see the Broncos or Buccaneers taking a chance on him.
The Broncos are struggling, but they play in a crappy division that is there for the taking. With Travis Henry's looming suspension a hole at running back exists and just yesterday the Broncos worked out four free agent backs. In the past few years Shanahan has been willing to take some character chances and in the past there were rumors that he was interested in R-Will.
The other team I could see taking a chance on him is Tampa. Gruden is in a must win now situation with the Bucs and they have a bunch of back-up running backs on the roster with Cadillac out for the year. The risk would be minimal and Gruden's ability to create offensive schemes that fit his players could do wonders with a potential upgrade at running back.
Thoughts?
If/when the Dolphins release Ricky Williams I could see the Broncos or Buccaneers taking a chance on him.
The Broncos are struggling, but they play in a crappy division that is there for the taking. With Travis Henry's looming suspension a hole at running back exists and just yesterday the Broncos worked out four free agent backs. In the past few years Shanahan has been willing to take some character chances and in the past there were rumors that he was interested in R-Will.
The other team I could see taking a chance on him is Tampa. Gruden is in a must win now situation with the Bucs and they have a bunch of back-up running backs on the roster with Cadillac out for the year. The risk would be minimal and Gruden's ability to create offensive schemes that fit his players could do wonders with a potential upgrade at running back.
Thoughts?
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
You may be right about where he ends up but the Dolphins should trade him and get a conditional pick based on his performance and not just release him. Also, remember that Ricky owes the Dolphins money and that is in the equation somewhere. I do not think the Dolphins will play Ricky unless it is to showcase him
Dave Stauff
Footballguy
Hate to say it, because I picked Ricky up in almost all my dynasty leagues weeks ago, but I think he remains in limbo the balance of this year. As noted earlier, the trading deadline has passed, so it doesn't appear the Dolphins can receive anything for him. They have little to gain by waiving him UNLESS they are able to escape some salary liability in doing so. So I'd guess they'd sit him down, tell him he's going to be inactive for the remainder of the regular season and that they will do everything they can to trade him in the offseason and, if unsuccessful at that, will release him to find another team on his own. I'm feeling pretty certain he's not a Dolphin in 2008. So he may be a long term hold, but I don't see any short term potential (i.e., redraft).
trader jake
Footballguy
That makes sense...I'm just not sure that the Dolphins are willing to deal with all of the BS that comes along with Ricky's situation just to potentially add a late round pick. However, you could very well be correct.
Club Leftwich
Footballguy
Just the Dolphins luck - RB is the only position at which they aren't desperate for help for this year and the future. Does Ricky want to play QB, DT or S?
trader jake
Footballguy
Since I'm just throwing stuff at the wall before "inside word" hits and a few potential teams show interest...
In an odd twist, one team that should be interested in his services for the remainder of the season (besides my Packers, who won't go that route) are the Saints. He'd be the perfect compliment to what Sean Payton already has on offense, but that ain't going to happen either.
Some other teams that I can't eliminate:
Patriots: Winning cures a lot of ills.
Texans: State loves former Longhorns.
Raiders: Al Davis is the godfather.
Lions: If Jones' injury has flared up.
In an odd twist, one team that should be interested in his services for the remainder of the season (besides my Packers, who won't go that route) are the Saints. He'd be the perfect compliment to what Sean Payton already has on offense, but that ain't going to happen either.
Some other teams that I can't eliminate:
Patriots: Winning cures a lot of ills.
Texans: State loves former Longhorns.
Raiders: Al Davis is the godfather.
Lions: If Jones' injury has flared up.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
The Phins HAVE to get something from/for him. They can't just cut him and get nothing since they were more or less forced to take him back and erase the $8 mil or so he owed them only to see him go bye bye again. Whether it's a late pick or a long snapper or anything, he's cost them so much they need something. If they let him play he might do well, maybe even help them win some games which only worsens their draft pick. Of course they could also put him out there for a few series and tell the line not to block, and set him up for some serious punishment before getting rid of him. But the dude is onbe slip away from gone why they would take a chance on him next year is beyond me.Now, will the NFLPA let the Phins shelve him for the season or will they back the weirdo and make the Phins play him or cut him? I know it's their job, but it's extremely silly when they stick up for deadbeats, especially one who's cost his team so much already.
strong
Footballguy
Seems perfect. They could alternate seasons and suspensions.
strong
Footballguy
Some are suggesting the Dolphins will cut Williams. I see this as unlikely due to the large amount of money owed by Ricky. The Dolphins resigned him for the minimum, something the NFLPA was not too thrilled about, as an agreement between the parties for debt alleviation. If they cut him, it's unlikely a court will rule favorably for them should Ricky take them to court for the remaining debt.
Just my two cents. I see Ricky remaining a Dolphin or being traded for a 6th round pick. Either way I think he'll be under roster next year.
Just my two cents. I see Ricky remaining a Dolphin or being traded for a 6th round pick. Either way I think he'll be under roster next year.
Bermuda_Chub
Footballguy
This strangest of seasons needs to end with Ricky emerging from his smoking den and putting up a vintage Ricky performance in Week 16 vs. New England.
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bcr8f
Footballguy
They need to get something for him so I would suggest they use him or deactivate him.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I'm not so sure about that. The Dolphins taking Ricky back at this point would be like Britney Spears going to Amy Winehouse for advice on getting her life together. I would have to believe that the Dolphins would have preferred that Ricky never be re-instated. The fans are already upset with the franchise, if they give him another chance and he burns the team again, they'd be looking at an even bigger PR nightmare. Not only that, but guys like Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas are going to want to continue their career in Miami even less than they do now.
Fantaholic
Footballguy
This is merely a ploy to motivate Chatman, seriously.
The guppy move is to jump all over the waiver wires right now and pick up Ricky. I think that sharks realize this will only motivate Chatman to play even better and harder than he has been especially in the next two games where Ricky is not even eligible tp play until the 26th.
The guppy move is to jump all over the waiver wires right now and pick up Ricky. I think that sharks realize this will only motivate Chatman to play even better and harder than he has been especially in the next two games where Ricky is not even eligible tp play until the 26th.
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
Good thing you aren't a coach. The running game is the one thing in Miami that is going well.Otis said:
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
I don't remember anything saying that he can't play 'till the 26th, just that the 'Phins have a roster exemption through two weeks. Nothing saying that they can't activate him. I could understand waiting a week though, to determine his physical condition and get aquainted w/ the playbook.Fantaholic said:
TheFanatic
Footballguy
It was not a positive test in April. He was up for reinstatement and decided not to apply for a few months. Had some personal stuff going on. He met with a counselor to get his head straight. If he had tested positive he wouldn't be reinstated right now. The guy got drug tested 3 days a week for more than a year. He didn't fail one. Not even when he was playing in the CFL when he was still getting tested....-jb- said:
trader jake
Footballguy
trader jake
Footballguy
Apples and oranges.In 2005 he carried the ball 168 times for 743 yards (4.4) and 6 TD's. He also won some fantasy owners a championship when he rushed for 172 yards and a TD week 16.
-jb-
Footballguy
Thanks for this. I do remember it being somewhat muddy.
NinerK
Footballguy
+1 except I don't have Fargas. Hey, between SJ and AJ this year has been rough. We'll see if Ricky's got any "resin" in the bowl.
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yellowdog
Footballguy
XFrom Joe's Email:
He's baaaaack.
Link: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true
Clipped from the AP article:
The 30-year-old running back, who has played in only 12 games since the start of
the 2004 season, played in the Canadian Football League last season and applied
for reinstatement to the NFL on Oct. 1. He tested positive again for marijuana in
April, delaying his reinstatement through the first half of this season.
yellowdog
Footballguy
4.8 ypc, to be more precise.
Code:
Rushing Name Year Team Att Yards Avg Long TD FumbWILLIAMS, R 2006 TOR 109 526 4.8 0 2 1Career Totals 109 526 4.8 0 2 1Receiving Name Year Team No. Yards Avg Long TDWILLIAMS, R 2006 TOR 19 127 6.7 18 0Career Totals 19 127 6.7 18 0
hitmenssharpshooters
Footballguy
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3109760
Steinberg said Williams has been working out and weighs a fit 230 pounds.
"The Dolphins, or whatever team, is getting a highly motivated player with a new lease on life," Steinberg said.
Steinberg said Williams has been working out and weighs a fit 230 pounds.
"The Dolphins, or whatever team, is getting a highly motivated player with a new lease on life," Steinberg said.
loose circuits
Footballguy
now why the hell would you want to bring facts/stats to the table? It really kills the Ricky hatersbottomline, Ricky is in great shape. If he can help the Dolphins win a game, you better believe he will see the field. They'll sort the rest out in the offseason.
It cracks me up that people who follow football continue to speculate about trades after the trade deadline. Do they miss the meaning of deadline?
Otis
Footballguy
I love the "shark" pool.
yellowdog
Footballguy
I love the "shark" pool.
NinerK
Footballguy
If you love this thread, check out the Torry Holt thread. Dude is wondering if he should trade Holt because of a bad matchup in Week 16
NinerK
Footballguy
Holy crow. This is hilarious.
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NinerK
Footballguy
Yeah, Otis, SP pwns, don't be set trippin' foo.I love the "shark" pool.
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loose circuits
Footballguy
instead of trading him cause his knee will never be the same?If you love this thread, check out the Torry Holt thread. Dude is wondering if he should trade Holt because of a bad matchup in Week 16I love the "shark" pool.
Texican
Footballguy
Uh.... right... You suffer from premature ejaculation?
According to NFLPA website, www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=27018
Williams, Ricky
View Stats at Players Inc Site
Player Info
Draft Info
RB (#34)
Year: 1999
Miami Dolphins
Round: 1
Austin, TX
Position: 5
Salary History
2005 540000.00
2006 585000.00
2007 720000.00
he is due to be a FA in 2008.
Williams, Ricky
View Stats at Players Inc Site
Player Info
Draft Info
RB (#34)
Year: 1999
Miami Dolphins
Round: 1
Austin, TX
Position: 5
Salary History
2005 540000.00
2006 585000.00
2007 720000.00
he is due to be a FA in 2008.
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i dont understand what people mean when they say RW is a 'distraction'
is he like pushing trees in the locker room?
blazin an L in the sauna?
i mean, NFL players come and go on rosters every week
this whole 'ricky let the team down' thing is BS. wannstadt let the team down when he ran RW into the ground and made their entire offense revolve around one player
whether you want to admitt it or not, ronnie brown will not be 100% until 09. ricky is making barely anything. if ricky can still play, the fins will keep him around.
and im the biggest fins fan there is
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is he like pushing trees in the locker room?
blazin an L in the sauna?
i mean, NFL players come and go on rosters every week
this whole 'ricky let the team down' thing is BS. wannstadt let the team down when he ran RW into the ground and made their entire offense revolve around one player
whether you want to admitt it or not, ronnie brown will not be 100% until 09. ricky is making barely anything. if ricky can still play, the fins will keep him around.
and im the biggest fins fan there is
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If he plays 6 games this year that will meet the eligibility to count this as a full season. For that reason I don't expect to see him play against Philly. It'll give the front office more options. Also, there's no way that Ricky is game ready after another year and a half off. I'm sure he's in shape but there's no way he's in football shape, not to mention he's stepping into a completely foreign offense.
hes a RB, its not that hard to learn the offense.hes not eligible to play until the pittsburgh gamericky williams has ALWAYS been a beast when he is on the field. just look at miami's record with him and without him.
