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Who will be named in the Mitchell Report? (1 Viewer)
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shadyridr
Footballguy
Pettitte wouldnt surprise me since hes gay lovers with Clemens. ONeill wouldnt surprise me with all his temper tantrums.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Michael Brown
Footballguy
Ever since the Grimsley thing, I've assumed that Pettitte and Clemens were going to be implicated in some way. O'Neill would definitely hurt though. I'm pretty sure I could deal with anyone aside from the following:JeterMattinglyMoO'NeillLuis SojoBecause if you can't trust Luis Sojo, then dammit who CAN you trust?!?Oh and I think Leyritz and perhaps Strawberry are on the list too.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
why? this notion that our sports heros wouldnt take supplements to play better and make more money is crazy. Im sure several surrent tigers are on the list and shawne merriman got busted too, I didnt care.
Reaper
Footballguy
VERY
I'm glad I never attacked Bonds and got on that band wagon... From Day 1 I said WAY too many people did it to single out Bonds........Other than the Perjury thing, I've felt bad from Bonds the whole time.
southeastjerome
Footballguy
Frank Thomas? Hasn't he been one of the most outspoken guys against steroids? I know he was pushing for more/stricter testing.
bryhamm
Footballguy
Is this true or simply
EZD222
Footballguy
Don't forget Brady Anderson.
Reaper
Footballguy
Huh.... We're you around in 1986???????Or is Coke and other drugs different... You think they were against enhancing drugs and only did non enhancers by the bushel......I don't see how a Mets fan can get up on a HIGH horse about anything......I've always been consistent on the issue myself.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Show me links where Ive said anything different.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Is this true or simply
shadyridr
Footballguy
Especially when one of the main source is a Mets trainer. And you never saw me going around saying the Mets were all cheats. Every team has steroid users.
boom king
Footballguy
but everyone gets pissed at bonds for how smug and above the game he thoguht he was. what an arrogant ##### that guy is. i still hate him.I think its assinine to think any less than 50% of players were on the juice at some point. Thats why I was never big Bonds basher.The asterisk. I said that's fine if the Yankees World Championships get them too and he said he needed more evidence. HELLO EVIDENCE!shadyridr said:What was cobalt's Bonds argument?Doctor Detroit said:There goes Cobalt 27's Bonds argument. If there are a boatload of Yankees on the list that's gonna hurt.uch:
boom king
Footballguy
except for maybe the marlins! they cant afford it! oh im so funny...
Urn
Footballguy
He is a director for the Boston Red Sox...Is this true or simply
southeastjerome
Footballguy
Yes, his official title is "Director" and I believe he is one of the many minority owners of the team. He's taken a leave of abscence from the team since taking over the investigation. Still though, I am puzzled as to why they'd hire the guy to take on an investigation like that.Is this true or simply
shadyridr
Footballguy
I do dislike him cuz of his attitude but not cuz of the steroid thing.but everyone gets pissed at bonds for how smug and above the game he thoguht he was. what an arrogant ##### that guy is. i still hate him.I think its assinine to think any less than 50% of players were on the juice at some point. Thats why I was never big Bonds basher.The asterisk. I said that's fine if the Yankees World Championships get them too and he said he needed more evidence. HELLO EVIDENCE!shadyridr said:What was cobalt's Bonds argument?Doctor Detroit said:There goes Cobalt 27's Bonds argument. If there are a boatload of Yankees on the list that's gonna hurt.
shadyridr
Footballguy
2 for 2 so far. no big surprise yetESPN just announced Pettitte on the list.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Given Mitchell's connection to the Red Sox, how fishy will it be if a bunch of Yankees are named and no Red Sox?
Doctor Detroit
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I don't know about the percentage but I do know I've had to hear all this crap about Bonds for years and I kept saying, just wait, just wait. Wait is over. Every generation of baseball has their scandel and players have cut corners forever yet bonds is always the at the center of every discussion with the haters wanting us to believe he wasn't as good as his numbers suggest. My message has always been he's the best player of his era regardless, with or without steroids. This will just prove he was better than giys that were taking steroids when he wasn't, and better than guys taking steroids when he was also. You can't asterisk the whole era but at least now hopefully people can accept that it happened and move on without placing the blame on a handful of individuals. I would guess people won't let up on Bonds either way.I think its assinine to think any less than 50% of players were on the juice at some point. Thats why I was never big Bonds basher.The asterisk. I said that's fine if the Yankees World Championships get them too and he said he needed more evidence. HELLO EVIDENCE!shadyridr said:What was cobalt's Bonds argument?Doctor Detroit said:There goes Cobalt 27's Bonds argument. If there are a boatload of Yankees on the list that's gonna hurt.
shadyridr
Footballguy
i agree 100%. Ive always been a "Bonds is the best player in baseball since ruth" proponentI don't know about the percentage but I do know I've had to hear all this crap about Bonds for years and I kept saying, just wait, just wait. Wait is over. Every generation of baseball has their scandel and players have cut corners forever yet bonds is always the at the center of every discussion with the haters wanting us to believe he wasn't as good as his numbers suggest. My message has always been he's the best player of his era regardless, with or without steroids. This will just prove he was better than giys that were taking steroids when he wasn't, and better than guys taking steroids when he was also. You can't asterisk the whole era but at least now hopefully people can accept that it happened and move on without placing the blame on a handful of individuals. I would guess people won't let up on Bonds either way.I think its assinine to think any less than 50% of players were on the juice at some point. Thats why I was never big Bonds basher.The asterisk. I said that's fine if the Yankees World Championships get them too and he said he needed more evidence. HELLO EVIDENCE!shadyridr said:What was cobalt's Bonds argument?Doctor Detroit said:There goes Cobalt 27's Bonds argument. If there are a boatload of Yankees on the list that's gonna hurt.
Capella
Footballguy
Might want to go easy on the conspiracy there, fellow. Guy has a bit of a positive reputation.
shadyridr
Footballguy
From another board. Not sure how accurate:
Cant say any of these names surprise me.Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile
, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Ma rk McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tej ada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood
and maybe a bit of evidence too?
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
It was a question, not an accusation.
southeastjerome
Footballguy
Well if the NY Post can put an * next to the Patriots record this year, why should they not put an * next to the yankees championships IF more than a few prominent Yankee players are named? Personally, I'm not sayign they should or shouldn't, but if the NY Post were to label the Pats with an *, they should do the same for any team that won championships and have more than a few prominent players named in this report.
Doctor Detroit
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Considering the role Clemens and Pettitte played in their world championships, you probably should. There are going to be a lot of people saying a lot of things in the next few days about that. David Bell and Neifi make me laugh.
Capella
Footballguy
No, it was an accusation. You don't use the word 'fishy' otherwise.
TLEF316
Footballguy
If varitek and Damon are indeed on there will the sox get the same bashing? For some reason, i think not.
BoulderBob
Footballguy
This list cost $60 million to compile, you can be pretty damn sure that anyone named is/was a juicer.
EDIT: Respect to Frank Thomas and Griffey Jr....
EDIT: Respect to Frank Thomas and Griffey Jr....
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Michael Brown
Footballguy
Quite a few Boston or guys with Boston connections as well. If this list is fairly accurate, Canseco/Damon/Everett/Nomar/Nixon/Tavarez/Vaughn/Varitek are all prominent Boston guys at one time or another, and a few more like Moss and Crawford are smaller-time with the team. I guess this would eliminate the notion that Mitchell avoided reporting on any Sox players.IBT someone suggesting that he intentionally threw out these Boston names and hid Ortiz and Manny in order to appease fans who would want to see some impartiality on his part.From another board. Not sure how accurate:
Cant say any of these names surprise me.Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile
, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Ma rk McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tej ada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood
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i agree 100%. Ive always been a "Bonds is the best player in baseball since ruth" proponentI don't know about the percentage but I do know I've had to hear all this crap about Bonds for years and I kept saying, just wait, just wait. Wait is over. Every generation of baseball has their scandel and players have cut corners forever yet bonds is always the at the center of every discussion with the haters wanting us to believe he wasn't as good as his numbers suggest. My message has always been he's the best player of his era regardless, with or without steroids. This will just prove he was better than giys that were taking steroids when he wasn't, and better than guys taking steroids when he was also. You can't asterisk the whole era but at least now hopefully people can accept that it happened and move on without placing the blame on a handful of individuals. I would guess people won't let up on Bonds either way.I think its assinine to think any less than 50% of players were on the juice at some point. Thats why I was never big Bonds basher.The asterisk. I said that's fine if the Yankees World Championships get them too and he said he needed more evidence. HELLO EVIDENCE!shadyridr said:What was cobalt's Bonds argument?Doctor Detroit said:There goes Cobalt 27's Bonds argument. If there are a boatload of Yankees on the list that's gonna hurt.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
A PR stunt? There are future HOFers on that list and the best player in baseball in Albert Pujols. Think before you start typing.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I'll be interested to see if Ortiz and/or Manny are on the list.
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BoulderBob
Footballguy
Time will tell...and I didn't see the full list before I typed...only those geezers Clemens and Pettite...nevertheless...I take the placate statement back...On the other hand, the MLB PR department will earn their salaries over the next week...but I'm not sure it will matter...
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Point to the 'Roids.ESPN just announced Pettitte on the list.
shadyridr
Footballguy
oh enough, already
I think Sox fans with Varitek and Cardinals fans with Pujols have alot more to be bothered about than me
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
No, it was a question.
Honestly, I would be surprised if Ortiz isn't named, given how his numbers suddenly blew up when he went to Boston.
Doctor Detroit
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If the report comes out and there a bunch of Ozzie Cansecos and no stars then I would be suspicious also. But Pujols is huge and MLB probably cringed when they saw that report with his name on it. The older guys that were great hurt also but this is gonna dog Pujols a young star player for awhile. MLB doesn't want that.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Why?
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
As a Cardinals fan, Pujols was the one guy I had hoped wouldn't be mentioned, so if he is, it will suck, but honestly, so many MLers cheat nowadays, that no name will really surprise me today. That is kinda sad, I know.
