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- Thread starter David Dodds
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I'm not sure if you mean me or the others as the only one singled out is Borbely. (Which I disagree with but that's probably best for him to reply to)So do you know these people from here? To know if they're good at FF or not? Played in leagues with them and they stunk?I'm pretty sure you're assuming things about people and....well that's not usually a wise way to come to a judgement. Busman did well so you're dead wrong there.One of my gripes with this wonderful board and/or site is they always pick the same people for these contests. LHucks, Bass, you(not fresh in my mind as it's December) etc. There is logic in that. I can see the argument made that those guys draft in survivor leagues in the mock draft forum all offseason so they're plenty used to it. Last summer I was looking at the records of some of them(not nec 3 mentioned, I don't recall who exactly) via Twilight's site and search function and....to win one survivor league and lose in a bunch hardly means you're good at it. Appears more like the guy got lucky. Back to the logic, I can also tell ya now I'd do some things differently so experience of those repeated people is a good attribute too. It's just...this is fun, let's get some fresh "faces" involved. While I would have enjoyed getting to know some new people, this league didn't provide much emails back and forth since the draft nor all that much chatter here. I would imagine Dodds(like any commish) would have thought that'd be a good thing. As I mentioned earlier, I'd have found team concepts here fascinating but all 14 teams just drafted separately. That would have been fun.The more I play FF the more people I come across with differring interesting views or ways of looking at things that seem so common so vanilla now. I enjoyed reading/hearing from these people I don't know during the draft, here and in the chatroom. They're relatively quiet here so it was new thoughts. I like that better than if he chose LHucks because I can easily search and see his thoughts on players. This way, it forced others to offer opinions, more opinions the merrier I guess. I'm not intending to slight LHucks here, I read and enjoy those player commentary and ranking threads he does it's just...well these guys are different.I'm glad Dodds chose some fresh faces and thankful for this opportunity.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I can honestly say besides you, I really didnt recognize or play against any of these other board members. Now getting new blood in there was the whole point of this particular league. I also remember that one guy in the thread said you need to start drafting in April to have a chance against the staff, which is correct, you need to start drafting in January which alot of solid Staffers and MB'ers do Also, the staffers picked where the best of the best, and whom I respect the most, beside the one rookie staffer.
I don't think so. Much love for those guys(don't get me wrong) but, it's hard to use this site and not feel Dodds and Bryant are two of the best. Also there were two rookie staffers, Jeff T and Anthony.
Then you were foolish to say that you didn't think they'd do well as, admittedly, nothing formed that opinion.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Not you bro, complimented ya a couple posts up or so
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I'm not saying that anyone was pointing fingers at me. I'm just rhethorically asking if any staffers are considered more favorable opponents than others.For example, no offense to MBers, but for the most part I can do extremely well in leagues with MBers but almost always am in dogfights in pure staff leagues. We have several staff leagues, and playing the wrong guy on your roster can many times be the difference between winning and losing that week. IMO, there are no uniformed or clueless staffers. Don't get me wrong, there are a ton of excellent MBers as well, but there are some that make some interesting picks and utilize some interesting strategies.
ceo3west
Footballguy
, I thought that comment was ridiculous as well. To judge MB'ers you don't know and to judge them based on one draft is foolish. Perhaps I should have done more drafts prior to this one, but if I need to have 25 drafts completed before going into this one (starting in January), then mabey these drafts are best left for guys like Bicycle Seat Sniffer who apparently do this.
A 13-0 week definitely helps.
Pasquino with just 6 wins over the past 2 weeks. Leader might be slipping a bit.
Pasquino with just 6 wins over the past 2 weeks. Leader might be slipping a bit.
Well this was survivor. I don't have much survivor experience against staff members. You, maybe Aaron, maybe Jeff P, maybe Jeff T. I don't think the Jeffs though.Redraft or dynasty wise I have some experience playing in leagues with staffers and generally they don't do too well nor too bad. Just "soso", some good some not so good. You have and I remember that and it holds weight with me. The Jeffs have too. FF Record should be more publicized as so called experts tell others who to pick and how to manage their team, it's only natural to wonder how they did with their team.To be quite candid, the rest that I have played against don't stand out.
I think it's over Aaron.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I thought it was through 13 weeks.
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me too
link?
the NFFC has a 3-week playoff. Teams carry their average points from the first 13 weeks into the playoffs and add to that total.
why would we just stop after 13 weeks?
why would we just stop after 13 weeks?
so we should keep it as is a few weeks or seed matchups and brackets?
I don't think Dodds has ever ended one of these after 13 weeks. if it's best ball, could just play out the season until 16 weeks the way we've been doing.
or, it could be done with NFFC-style playoffs with some or all advancing and competing over the next 3 weeks.
either way, I don't see why this would be over now.
or, it could be done with NFFC-style playoffs with some or all advancing and competing over the next 3 weeks.
either way, I don't see why this would be over now.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
I thought all of these "leagues" were 16 week play throughs....will try and check tonight if I can find that file.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
ceo3west
Footballguy
Im almost positive I remember Dodds saying it was 16 weeks cumulative record.
BusMan
Footballguy
Woah
I can come up with a few names, but Dodds stands out as one of the easiest to compete against. His rankings are their for everyone to see and many are using them as a ADP baseline. I think that puts him at a significant competitive disadvantage. Furthermore, his draft thoughts/tendencies are pretty well known. Some of the other staffers that I see lagging in leagues are likely doing so because they have bit off more than they can chew volume wise.Pasquino is really coming around. In these deep drafts the dynasty staffers seem to do very well. Pasquino has done an excellent job of sorting through/responding to cristisms in his other drafts and seems to be improving his strategies accordingly by eliminating the valid ones and ignoring the invalid ones.Regarding this MB group, I think they're like many others I've seen and make mistakes in not exploiting some the "team" advantages and not having a complete grasp on the rules. That doesn't apply to everyone, just recall numerous write-ups/posts for this year and years past where comments about overlooking the format, scoring, or alignment was mentioned.
Rk LW Player Wk 11 Pts Wk 11 Rec Tot Pts Tot Rec
1 1 Sigmund Bloom 185.9 11 - 0 1657.3 83-38-0
2 2 Keith Overton 185.2 10 - 1 1673.8 79-42-0
3 3 Mike Anderson 174.8 8 - 3 1673.2 73-48-0
4 4 Maurile Tremblay 164.2 6 - 5 1641.0 70-51-0
5 5 bagger 175.9 9 - 2 1652.6 69-52-0
6 6 Colin Dowling 174.0 7 - 4 1613.5 66-55-0
7 7 buck naked 128.4 2 - 9 1535.4 56-65-0
8 8 rzrback77 143.0 4 - 7 1562.5 55-66-0
9 9 Tiger Fan 124.1 1 - 10 1511.0 50-71-0
10 11 David Dodds 163.7 5 - 6 1478.0 43-78-0
10 10 Team Legacy 122.9 0 - 11 1407.8 43-78-0
12 12 Fullback Fro 136.4 3 - 8 1480.5 39-82-0
The MB team here all had previous WCOFF experience as I recall.
1 1 Sigmund Bloom 185.9 11 - 0 1657.3 83-38-0
2 2 Keith Overton 185.2 10 - 1 1673.8 79-42-0
3 3 Mike Anderson 174.8 8 - 3 1673.2 73-48-0
4 4 Maurile Tremblay 164.2 6 - 5 1641.0 70-51-0
5 5 bagger 175.9 9 - 2 1652.6 69-52-0
6 6 Colin Dowling 174.0 7 - 4 1613.5 66-55-0
7 7 buck naked 128.4 2 - 9 1535.4 56-65-0
8 8 rzrback77 143.0 4 - 7 1562.5 55-66-0
9 9 Tiger Fan 124.1 1 - 10 1511.0 50-71-0
10 11 David Dodds 163.7 5 - 6 1478.0 43-78-0
10 10 Team Legacy 122.9 0 - 11 1407.8 43-78-0
12 12 Fullback Fro 136.4 3 - 8 1480.5 39-82-0
The MB team here all had previous WCOFF experience as I recall.
buck naked
Footballguy
I'm just waiting for the day when the staff members names start showing up in REAL NFFC leagues. How many have their been....1 or 2 entries from staff members in the past?
Then we can start comparing REAL results, and enough of this Draftmasters format.
Until then, feel free to hop on my bandwagon (team The Mighty Men), 'cause I'm feeling a rush to this year's championship. (Henry wins his appeal!)
Then we can start comparing REAL results, and enough of this Draftmasters format.
Until then, feel free to hop on my bandwagon (team The Mighty Men), 'cause I'm feeling a rush to this year's championship. (Henry wins his appeal!)
buck naked
Footballguy
You are right. MB is making a slight comeback, but Bloom is having a nice year.
Good luck in your quest for the big prize.
26-0 the past 2 weeks. Not sure how it happened since I'm playing with basically 1 QB and 1 RB, although Davenport was a pleasant surprise this week.
ceo3west
Footballguy
One week left & it's tied at the top between Ruds & Pasquino.
Aaron Rudnicki 129-66-0
Jeff Pasquino 129-66-0
Chase Stuart 123-71-1
Busman 118-77-0
Bri 110-85-0
David Yudkin 109-85-1
Clayton Gray 108-87-0
ceo3west 104-91-0
Soaring Eagle 103-92-0
Warehouse Nasty 74-120-1
Anthony Borbely 73-121-1
GridIron Menace 68-127-0
Jeff Tefertiller 62-133-0
Tremendous Upside 53-142-0
Aaron Rudnicki 129-66-0
Jeff Pasquino 129-66-0
Chase Stuart 123-71-1
Busman 118-77-0
Bri 110-85-0
David Yudkin 109-85-1
Clayton Gray 108-87-0
ceo3west 104-91-0
Soaring Eagle 103-92-0
Warehouse Nasty 74-120-1
Anthony Borbely 73-121-1
GridIron Menace 68-127-0
Jeff Tefertiller 62-133-0
Tremendous Upside 53-142-0
It was my turn to have an especially good week I guess.
Pretty rough week for David and Carlton, the timing of the two (high and low) gave me a big jump in the standings and now we're close to being tied.
I think I got jumped earlier in the year after a poor week too and that's the roughest thing in this style league. Most weeks it's 5-8 wins for you and the others and the standings don't change too much. I think that's a big key here.
Next year, if, I would probably sprinkle in some ol' steady vets in the later rounds to try and guard from the lows. Then again, IIRC, that's what my buddy Jeff T did and he's not doing so well and he usually does. I wonder if you guys have any thoughts or theories on this?
Pretty rough week for David and Carlton, the timing of the two (high and low) gave me a big jump in the standings and now we're close to being tied.
I think I got jumped earlier in the year after a poor week too and that's the roughest thing in this style league. Most weeks it's 5-8 wins for you and the others and the standings don't change too much. I think that's a big key here.
Next year, if, I would probably sprinkle in some ol' steady vets in the later rounds to try and guard from the lows. Then again, IIRC, that's what my buddy Jeff T did and he's not doing so well and he usually does. I wonder if you guys have any thoughts or theories on this?
Warehouse Nasty
Footballguy
Injuries have doomed me in this league. This is my first best ball draft I've ever done and I learned quite a bit in this draft. I clearly didn't go deep enough at the WR position and when Boldin and Branch got hurt for extended periods of time, I couldn't make up the points with an otherwise pedestrian WR corps. I think the teams that have done well have drafted a good amount of WR in the middle rounds; odds are that one, two, or even three of them will score enough to put you over the top on a weekly basis in best ball. Going much deeper at WR is one thing I will DEFINITLEY do different in my next best ball draft.
I haven't had a QB score for me in 4 weeks so I'm amazed I managed to go 9-4 last week. I don't know what I could do too much different here other than to draft a more established QB in a good system as my #1. I had Leinart, A. Smith, and Culpepper which looked alright on paper before the season started.
I did pretty well at RB despite having Gore as my #1 and MJD as my #2. Getting Lendale, C. Brown, K. Watson and J. Chatman put me at pretty good shape at RB.
10 weeks into the season I looked and I was the only team to not have at least one guy in the league who had 100 or more points. Having 5 of your first 7 picks miss a good amount of time and not drafting well in the middle rounds will do that to you.
This draft taught me a lot; mostly that depth is king in these type of leagues.
Dodds, thanks for letting me be a part of this. I'd love to do it again.
I haven't had a QB score for me in 4 weeks so I'm amazed I managed to go 9-4 last week. I don't know what I could do too much different here other than to draft a more established QB in a good system as my #1. I had Leinart, A. Smith, and Culpepper which looked alright on paper before the season started.
I did pretty well at RB despite having Gore as my #1 and MJD as my #2. Getting Lendale, C. Brown, K. Watson and J. Chatman put me at pretty good shape at RB.
10 weeks into the season I looked and I was the only team to not have at least one guy in the league who had 100 or more points. Having 5 of your first 7 picks miss a good amount of time and not drafting well in the middle rounds will do that to you.
This draft taught me a lot; mostly that depth is king in these type of leagues.
Dodds, thanks for letting me be a part of this. I'd love to do it again.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
By my rough count, A-Rod finishes in first and I'm in second in this thing.
that's a really great climb for you, Chase. As I said a couple posts up, I've done OK several weeks but gained little to no ground so it really catches my eye how you rose up thru the standings, kudos
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Congrats Aaron!Ask for it in wheatpennies
That'd be 18 of the 16 Dodds said was needed to win of the top 6.So Pasquino is 3rd? ...even moreShame injuries knocked the Busman out. He was our best chance to get a high point(1 or 2) spotKudos to the staff!As I figured, the middle of the draft seems the hardest spots, probably something to remember there.
great job on these projections.you nailed the top-2 and your top-6 all finished in the top-7. looks like Bri's team exceeded your expectations the most (finished 5th instead of 10th) and Gridiron Menace stumbled a bit from where you had him projected to finish (12th instead of 7th).Sorry I haven't chimed in yet today guys. The five hour draft combined with work really crunching today (four interviews already) has delayed my analysis. I know I knowand all. Here's a quick tidbit to chew on though:
BusMan's projected league results:
Staff in red (like an infected throat/lung/toe) and MB in doodoo brown.
Rudnicki - 167-41
Stuart - 137-71
BusMan - 133-75
Gray - 124-84
Pasquino - 116-92
Yudkin - 107-101
Gridiron Menace - 103-105
Borbely - 93-115
Soaring Eagle - 90-118
Bri - 83-125
Tefertiller - 81-127
Warehouse Nasty - 81-127
Tremendous Upside - 78-130
ceo3west - 71-137
Final totals:
Staff 25
MB 6
Looks like I'll need to keep recapping to get my comped subscriptions.
my team scored the most points in the league in 6 out of 16 weeks.
GB Tomlinson, but I also wound up with the #7 QB (Hasselbeck), the #4 WR and 4 WRs in the top-30 (Edwards, Curtis, Berrian, RoyWilliams), 2 top-7 TEs (D.Clark and O.Daniels), and the #3 defense (Seattle).
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