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I know I would really get into these games, so I have never tried them.

I used to play Utopia and Dominion back in the day.... low tech, but great fun. They were turn based, updating every hour. Sounds similar to some games listed here.

Well, you can only be the best if you logged in as many turns as possible. I had a whole lot of days going to work on 2-4 hours of sleep, and a couple where I didn't sleep at all.

But, dang it, my Hobbit dominion, the Fornication Fortification, was bad ####. :thumbup: :bag:

 
Mad Cow said:
Do any of you have experience in LARPing? (Live Action Role Playing)

My friends and I used to play WoW all the time, and we still play a lot, but we're having a blast LARPing.

Here is an example of a Larp battle -

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Yeah I do, but I've sort of switched to Horde side lately. A bunch of my friends from back home started playing horde, so I re-rolled on that side. If you wanna find me on Hyjal look on the Horde side for Wulfmother or Stormcow.
 
Rhino said:
Do any of you have experience in LARPing? (Live Action Role Playing)

My friends and I used to play WoW all the time, and we still play a lot, but we're having a blast LARPing.

Here is an example of a Larp battle -

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:lmao: I am reinstalling now. See you in 3 weeks when all of the updates apply.

 
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Anonymous Internet User said:
Mad Cow said:
Anyone ever tried Free World of Warcraft Private Servers ?

Seems like a win-win-win for casual gamers.
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except they're illegal =P
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Interesting that they are still alive and kicking with that website, then. I would have thought WoW would have shut them down.
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Our network guy here at work messes around on one. It sucks because there's never a lot of people on and the bugs are unreal; you kill 1 thing and you're automatically lvl 70. The economy doesn't exist (again because not many people online) so you have to grind everything or use the GM hacks to get stuff for free. He got a group of people to all get full T6 gear and they still got owned in Karahzan because they don't know how to play their toon.Also, a lot of these private servers are key loggers that want into your real WoW account so they can hack your account and sell your stuff to gold farmers.

Stay far away.

 
The Juggernaut said:
Avoid at all costs. It's addicting as hell.
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Good advice here. My father is into this game like nothing ever before in his life, he is retired. I only see my family once every 3-6 months for a couple days cause we're on different coasts. The last time I went to see the family, I went for 3 days. Seriously besides meals, my father was around me for about 10 minutes when I arrived and around 5 minutes when I departed, the rest of the time he was playing this game. And this is not the status quo for our relationship, it used to be before WOW that we would hang out just as much as anybody else in the family. I know he's addicted to this game so I'm not fuming or anything but I do feel cheated when I see my father for 15 minutes after I just traveled 3000 miles and brought his only grandchild with me. AVOID THIS GAME.
 
:headbang:

I installed and patched this up 2 days ago. I later uninstalled a few things and installed EVE Online, and somewhere along the way, I made it impossible to play BF2. Sooooo, I had to system restore to get my BF2 back, and NOOOOW I get to reinstall and :scared: repatch :shrug:

 
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KnowledgeReignsSupreme said:
matuski said:
I would like to thank my ancient nvidia tnt2 m64 videocard for preventing me from going down this wicked path of WoW addiction.

:goodposting: downloaded the 10 day trial only to get DENIED!
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Ouch.
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Well if PCI is the way he rolls, he COULD get a FX5500 for a song and play WoW with that.
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You can always count on Mad Cow to come through with gaming hardware suggestions that rock! :goodposting: Way to feed the addiction! :goodposting:

 
Chachi said:
The Juggernaut said:
Avoid at all costs. It's addicting as hell.
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Good advice here. My father is into this game like nothing ever before in his life, he is retired. I only see my family once every 3-6 months for a couple days cause we're on different coasts. The last time I went to see the family, I went for 3 days. Seriously besides meals, my father was around me for about 10 minutes when I arrived and around 5 minutes when I departed, the rest of the time he was playing this game. And this is not the status quo for our relationship, it used to be before WOW that we would hang out just as much as anybody else in the family. I know he's addicted to this game so I'm not fuming or anything but I do feel cheated when I see my father for 15 minutes after I just traveled 3000 miles and brought his only grandchild with me. AVOID THIS GAME.
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This is not a joke - somewhere there is a serious shortage of Walmart Greeters out there. After college students, I'd say the second largest demographic I've run into in the game is retired people. They flock to this game like moths to a flame.
 
Hello fellow :nerd:s. Quick question. I just dinged 70 for the first time on my rogue Ultryst (although it appears the armory isn't working now). Now I feel like I don't have a goal. Maybe some of you guys who have played some endgame can help...

While leveling I had skinning and mining maxed so I had 2k in gold when I dinged so I bought my flight mount immediately :coffee: . Now I feel like I am meandering around zone to zone without a specific goal. I was hoping some of you vets could help prioritize what I *think* I should be working on:

1. Epic flight mount (aka anouther 5k in gold).

2. Getting keyed for Kara (am now on the Shadow Labs portion of the quest chain)

3. I really want the Netherdrake mount....how/where do I start on that and should I do that instead of working on the epic flight mount?

4. Building Scryer rep. How important is it to do that over other objectives?

5. Switching from skinning to a profession that is helpful to a rogue endgame (I was thinking alchemy for pots). How dumb is this idea?

5. Building other rep?

6. Running BGs to get the gladiator set.

7. Running instances / heroics for better gear (better alternative than constantly running BGs)?

8. Running dailies. Where do you go to get these? I know of the PVP one in Shatt and I am too high of a level for the PVP in Thrallmar now...but aren't there daily instances?

I am sure there is a lot more I could think of, but I feel like I should pick a primary goal and work on that with some secondary goals to do in the downtime. My current strategy is to finish clearing Blade's Edge quests, then onto Shadowmoon (where I have already done some quests) or Area 52. Grind gold from mining / quests while passively building rep and running instances and BGs when I have time.

Any pointers would be awesome thanks.

 
Yesterday on Judge Judy ( yeah, I know. I like to veg out in front of the TV when I get home from work) There was a chick who was suing her ex-bf for unpaid loans. She said the relationship ended because he spent all his time playing WoW and no time with her. :goodposting:

 
bagger said:
Hello fellow :nerd:s. Quick question. I just dinged 70 for the first time on my rogue Ultryst (although it appears the armory isn't working now). Now I feel like I don't have a goal. Maybe some of you guys who have played some endgame can help...

While leveling I had skinning and mining maxed so I had 2k in gold when I dinged so I bought my flight mount immediately :) . Now I feel like I am meandering around zone to zone without a specific goal. I was hoping some of you vets could help prioritize what I *think* I should be working on:

1. Epic flight mount (aka anouther 5k in gold).

2. Getting keyed for Kara (am now on the Shadow Labs portion of the quest chain)

3. I really want the Netherdrake mount....how/where do I start on that and should I do that instead of working on the epic flight mount?

4. Building Scryer rep. How important is it to do that over other objectives?

5. Switching from skinning to a profession that is helpful to a rogue endgame (I was thinking alchemy for pots). How dumb is this idea?

5. Building other rep?

6. Running BGs to get the gladiator set.

7. Running instances / heroics for better gear (better alternative than constantly running BGs)?

8. Running dailies. Where do you go to get these? I know of the PVP one in Shatt and I am too high of a level for the PVP in Thrallmar now...but aren't there daily instances?

I am sure there is a lot more I could think of, but I feel like I should pick a primary goal and work on that with some secondary goals to do in the downtime. My current strategy is to finish clearing Blade's Edge quests, then onto Shadowmoon (where I have already done some quests) or Area 52. Grind gold from mining / quests while passively building rep and running instances and BGs when I have time.

Any pointers would be awesome thanks.
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I would say the next step is to get keyed for Heroic instances. Getting keyed for Kara is only important if you are in a guild that runs Kara regularly, but even so your first focus is to get better gear, hit the rogue forums and ask them what stats you should be looking for, IIRC you want to get your chance to hit % as high as possible.If you are into PvP then you probably want to do BG's or get on a good Arena team to work towards gladiator.

Or you can do what I did and stopped playing my 70 and started building an army of twinks, using your 70 to farm gold to feed your twink hobby.

My current list of twinks:

19 hunter (best for this bracket)

19 paladin

19 mage

29 warrior

36 priest (current project working towards 49)

49 rogue (full subtlety, can take on any toon 1 on 1)

49 druid (resto, like 422+ to healing)

 
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I am currently downloading the patches manually.

1.12.X

1.12.X-2.01

2.0.X to 2.2.0

and so on

:confused:

 
Alias said:
bagger said:
Hello fellow :nerd:s. Quick question. I just dinged 70 for the first time on my rogue Ultryst (although it appears the armory isn't working now). Now I feel like I don't have a goal. Maybe some of you guys who have played some endgame can help...

While leveling I had skinning and mining maxed so I had 2k in gold when I dinged so I bought my flight mount immediately :lmao: . Now I feel like I am meandering around zone to zone without a specific goal. I was hoping some of you vets could help prioritize what I *think* I should be working on:

1. Epic flight mount (aka anouther 5k in gold).

2. Getting keyed for Kara (am now on the Shadow Labs portion of the quest chain)

3. I really want the Netherdrake mount....how/where do I start on that and should I do that instead of working on the epic flight mount?

4. Building Scryer rep. How important is it to do that over other objectives?

5. Switching from skinning to a profession that is helpful to a rogue endgame (I was thinking alchemy for pots). How dumb is this idea?

5. Building other rep?

6. Running BGs to get the gladiator set.

7. Running instances / heroics for better gear (better alternative than constantly running BGs)?

8. Running dailies. Where do you go to get these? I know of the PVP one in Shatt and I am too high of a level for the PVP in Thrallmar now...but aren't there daily instances?

I am sure there is a lot more I could think of, but I feel like I should pick a primary goal and work on that with some secondary goals to do in the downtime. My current strategy is to finish clearing Blade's Edge quests, then onto Shadowmoon (where I have already done some quests) or Area 52. Grind gold from mining / quests while passively building rep and running instances and BGs when I have time.

Any pointers would be awesome thanks.
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I would say the next step is to get keyed for Heroic instances. Getting keyed for Kara is only important if you are in a guild that runs Kara regularly, but even so your first focus is to get better gear, hit the rogue forums and ask them what stats you should be looking for, IIRC you want to get your chance to hit % as high as possible.If you are into PvP then you probably want to do BG's or get on a good Arena team to work towards gladiator.

Or you can do what I did and stopped playing my 70 and started building an army of twinks, using your 70 to farm gold to feed your twink hobby.

My current list of twinks:

19 hunter (best for this bracket)

19 paladin

19 mage

29 warrior

36 priest (current project working towards 49)

49 rogue (full subtlety, can take on any toon 1 on 1)

49 druid (resto, like 422+ to healing)
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See, i think this is going a bit overboard. Once my Dwarf Hunter gets up to 70 and runs out of quests, I'll probably retire him then start anew with a different race/class.
 
yeah I am pretty much done with this game, priest is the last toon, I figure 2 months and I quit (be sure to bump thread) :lol:

not sure when the expansion is coming out, but definutely not buying it, will wait for WAR to come out.

 
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bagger said:
Hello fellow :nerd:s. Quick question. I just dinged 70 for the first time on my rogue Ultryst (although it appears the armory isn't working now). Now I feel like I don't have a goal. Maybe some of you guys who have played some endgame can help...

While leveling I had skinning and mining maxed so I had 2k in gold when I dinged so I bought my flight mount immediately :rolleyes: . Now I feel like I am meandering around zone to zone without a specific goal. I was hoping some of you vets could help prioritize what I *think* I should be working on:

1. Epic flight mount (aka anouther 5k in gold).

2. Getting keyed for Kara (am now on the Shadow Labs portion of the quest chain)

3. I really want the Netherdrake mount....how/where do I start on that and should I do that instead of working on the epic flight mount?

4. Building Scryer rep. How important is it to do that over other objectives?

5. Switching from skinning to a profession that is helpful to a rogue endgame (I was thinking alchemy for pots). How dumb is this idea?

5. Building other rep?

6. Running BGs to get the gladiator set.

7. Running instances / heroics for better gear (better alternative than constantly running BGs)?

8. Running dailies. Where do you go to get these? I know of the PVP one in Shatt and I am too high of a level for the PVP in Thrallmar now...but aren't there daily instances?

I am sure there is a lot more I could think of, but I feel like I should pick a primary goal and work on that with some secondary goals to do in the downtime. My current strategy is to finish clearing Blade's Edge quests, then onto Shadowmoon (where I have already done some quests) or Area 52. Grind gold from mining / quests while passively building rep and running instances and BGs when I have time.

Any pointers would be awesome thanks.
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I would say the next step is to get keyed for Heroic instances. Getting keyed for Kara is only important if you are in a guild that runs Kara regularly, but even so your first focus is to get better gear, hit the rogue forums and ask them what stats you should be looking for, IIRC you want to get your chance to hit % as high as possible.If you are into PvP then you probably want to do BG's or get on a good Arena team to work towards gladiator.

Or you can do what I did and stopped playing my 70 and started building an army of twinks, using your 70 to farm gold to feed your twink hobby.
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This is all great advice. I'm going to assume you aren't in a raiding guild - if you were then you'd pretty much have this spelled out for you - you'd be focused on getting keyed for Kara, getting your heroic keys and getting geared up for bigger encounters like Gruul's Lair and so on.If you're not in a raiding guild then Kara isn't as big a deal. It's still nice to get keyed, because more and more people are doing pickup raids to Kara and you can get some very nice gear in there - but there's plenty else to do instead. Heroic instances are also great places to get very nice gear.

I would highly recommend you DON'T drop skinning. And here is why...

If you're truely interested in getting your Netherdrake then here's how it's going to work:

You're going to need to get your faction exhaulted with the Netherwing in order to get the mount. To do that, first you will need to get the 5k gold for an epic flying mount. You cannot get your faction past neutral with the netherwing if you haven't trained the highest level of riding skill.

Start by doing the daily quests in Blades Edge Mountains for Ogri'la faction and the daily quests in Terrokar Forrest for Sha'tari Skyguard faction. You can get more details on those daily quests from Thotbott or the WoW web site. Basically there are six quests that you're allowed to do once per day. It will make you about 75 gold a day doing those quests. This is one of the fastest ways to build up the 5k gold you need for the epic flying mount. It only takes about an hour to knock all those quests out. If you have time I recommend doing other farming on the side to speed up making the gold.

Once you get the flying epic mount there's a whole string of quests that will start you on the path to Netherwing faction. Once you start that, you'll have about 7 or 8 daily quests you can do to build Netherwing faction. It'll take about a month of doing those quests every day to get to exhalted and get your drake. Again, those can be done in about an hour - maybe two - depending how many of the dailys you decided to do every day, how fast you can solo kill stuff, how good the drop rates are, how croweded the areas are, etc... Basically you can work at whatever pace you like.

Now, the reason you don't drop skinning - there is an extra daily quest for Netherwing faction that is only available to SKINNERS - you basically turn in 30 skins a day for more faction. This helps the grind go MUCH faster. I've seen many people drop their other tradeskills and take up skinning just to get thru Netherwing faction faster.

Wow... that's a lotta :no: info right there - I'll let you digest all that. If you need more info let me know.

 
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bagger said:
Hello fellow :nerd:s. Quick question. I just dinged 70 for the first time on my rogue Ultryst (although it appears the armory isn't working now). Now I feel like I don't have a goal. Maybe some of you guys who have played some endgame can help...

While leveling I had skinning and mining maxed so I had 2k in gold when I dinged so I bought my flight mount immediately :mellow: . Now I feel like I am meandering around zone to zone without a specific goal. I was hoping some of you vets could help prioritize what I *think* I should be working on:

1. Epic flight mount (aka anouther 5k in gold).

I've been lvl 70 for 3 months and do just fine with my 1k flying mount. Not worth grinding just to get one. It's more of a Look at me thing

2. Getting keyed for Kara (am now on the Shadow Labs portion of the quest chain)

The quest starts right in front of Kara; pretty easy.

3. I really want the Netherdrake mount....how/where do I start on that and should I do that instead of working on the epic flight mount?

These come from arena fighting. Lots of arena fighting.

4. Building Scryer rep. How important is it to do that over other objectives?

I'm important to get patterns to make better stuff you could never buy.

5. Switching from skinning to a profession that is helpful to a rogue endgame (I was thinking alchemy for pots). How dumb is this idea?

Switch to leatherworking. Drop mining.

5. Building other rep?

Go to the quartermasters for each faction. See what you need most and start there.

6. Running BGs to get the gladiator set.

Good start if you're not in a raiding guild.

7. Running instances / heroics for better gear (better alternative than constantly running BGs)?

Way better, but if you just hit 70 you'll get owned.

8. Running dailies. Where do you go to get these? I know of the PVP one in Shatt and I am too high of a level for the PVP in Thrallmar now...but aren't there daily instances?

They appear in your quest log

I am sure there is a lot more I could think of, but I feel like I should pick a primary goal and work on that with some secondary goals to do in the downtime. My current strategy is to finish clearing Blade's Edge quests, then onto Shadowmoon (where I have already done some quests) or Area 52. Grind gold from mining / quests while passively building rep and running instances and BGs when I have time.

Any pointers would be awesome thanks.
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The Bad CEO said:
bagger said:
Hello fellow :nerd:s. Quick question. I just dinged 70 for the first time on my rogue Ultryst (although it appears the armory isn't working now). Now I feel like I don't have a goal. Maybe some of you guys who have played some endgame can help...

While leveling I had skinning and mining maxed so I had 2k in gold when I dinged so I bought my flight mount immediately :P . Now I feel like I am meandering around zone to zone without a specific goal. I was hoping some of you vets could help prioritize what I *think* I should be working on:

1. Epic flight mount (aka anouther 5k in gold).

I've been lvl 70 for 3 months and do just fine with my 1k flying mount. Not worth grinding just to get one. It's more of a Look at me thing.

You don't know how much of a difference you're missing until you get one! Epic flying mounts make questing 10x easier

2. Getting keyed for Kara (am now on the Shadow Labs portion of the quest chain)

The quest starts right in front of Kara; pretty easy.

geting the quest is easy :P finishing the chain is another thing! It's not really necessary to go thru that headache if you're not in a rading guild

3. I really want the Netherdrake mount....how/where do I start on that and should I do that instead of working on the epic flight mount?

These come from arena fighting. Lots of arena fighting.

I haven't PvP'ed for one minute and I have a Netherdrake - it can be completely quested

4. Building Scryer rep. How important is it to do that over other objectives?

I'm important to get patterns to make better stuff you could never buy.

This is very true - if there's a pattern or item you want from the quartermaster then raise your faction - otherwise don't mess with the hassle

5. Switching from skinning to a profession that is helpful to a rogue endgame (I was thinking alchemy for pots). How dumb is this idea?

Switch to leatherworking. Drop mining.

Only drop mining if there's a leatherworking pattern you really want to make. Mining is a great gathering skill from making money on the AH

5. Building other rep?

Go to the quartermasters for each faction. See what you need most and start there.

Again - like Scryers - this is very good advice

6. Running BGs to get the gladiator set.

Good start if you're not in a raiding guild.

If you're into PvP then BG's are a great way to get some great gear.

7. Running instances / heroics for better gear (better alternative than constantly running BGs)?

Way better, but if you just hit 70 you'll get owned.

You might get owned in the heroics, but start with the regular instances, build up gear a little and move to heroics. You should do fine - it's one of the best ways to gear up.

8. Running dailies. Where do you go to get these? I know of the PVP one in Shatt and I am too high of a level for the PVP in Thrallmar now...but aren't there daily instances?

They appear in your quest log

Search Thotbott for more detail on the daily quests

I am sure there is a lot more I could think of, but I feel like I should pick a primary goal and work on that with some secondary goals to do in the downtime. My current strategy is to finish clearing Blade's Edge quests, then onto Shadowmoon (where I have already done some quests) or Area 52. Grind gold from mining / quests while passively building rep and running instances and BGs when I have time.

Any pointers would be awesome thanks.
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The Bad CEO said:
bagger said:
2. Getting keyed for Kara (am now on the Shadow Labs portion of the quest chain)

The quest starts right in front of Kara; pretty easy.

geting the quest is easy :thumbup: finishing the chain is another thing! It's not really necessary to go thru that headache if you're not in a rading guild

Any pointers would be awesome thanks.
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It's pretty easy IMO. Most of it is running aroun solo lvl 70 kills and turning in items. You have to go into Shadow labs and Steamvaults, but you don't even have to kill the main bosses to get the key frags. Black Morass can be a pain, but over all not so hard if the rest of the group knows their stuff. We run guildies through it all the time.I'd find a lvl 70 raiding guild if you're not in one already; it's the only way you'll see the rest of the game's content.

I have a

70 Hunter

57 Priest

62 Warrior

 
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bagger said:
Hello fellow :nerd:s. Quick question. I just dinged 70 for the first time on my rogue Ultryst (although it appears the armory isn't working now). Now I feel like I don't have a goal. Maybe some of you guys who have played some endgame can help...

While leveling I had skinning and mining maxed so I had 2k in gold when I dinged so I bought my flight mount immediately :) . Now I feel like I am meandering around zone to zone without a specific goal. I was hoping some of you vets could help prioritize what I *think* I should be working on:

1. Epic flight mount (aka anouther 5k in gold).

2. Getting keyed for Kara (am now on the Shadow Labs portion of the quest chain)

3. I really want the Netherdrake mount....how/where do I start on that and should I do that instead of working on the epic flight mount?

4. Building Scryer rep. How important is it to do that over other objectives?

5. Switching from skinning to a profession that is helpful to a rogue endgame (I was thinking alchemy for pots). How dumb is this idea?

5. Building other rep?

6. Running BGs to get the gladiator set.

7. Running instances / heroics for better gear (better alternative than constantly running BGs)?

8. Running dailies. Where do you go to get these? I know of the PVP one in Shatt and I am too high of a level for the PVP in Thrallmar now...but aren't there daily instances?

I am sure there is a lot more I could think of, but I feel like I should pick a primary goal and work on that with some secondary goals to do in the downtime. My current strategy is to finish clearing Blade's Edge quests, then onto Shadowmoon (where I have already done some quests) or Area 52. Grind gold from mining / quests while passively building rep and running instances and BGs when I have time.

Any pointers would be awesome thanks.
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With skinning/mining you should be able to do pretty well at money making. I'm a miner/enchanter myself and mostly use the enchanting just to disenchant and sell the mats. Anyway... as far as mining I can recommend a couple of different loops that have taken me within a stonesthrow of the gold i need for epic flight form (i'm a druid). In Nagrand head as west as far as you possibly can and fly above Forge Camp: Hate. There you will find The Twilight Ridge. The mobs there are from 71-73 normal mobs and a few elites. I know it sounds intimidating but they will not attack you from where the mining nodes pop. I've ran this route for hours on end and never been attacked but I'm also very cautious... Fly the border all the way around the ridge and you'll find Adamantite, rich adamantite, and khorium ore veins. From there fly down to Sunspring post, and around to northwind cleft, Laughing skull ruins, warmaul hill, and finally complete your loop by going back to twilight ridge. It's a pretty long loop, but I've made tons of gold doing it. Ally or horde are a slight danger, though on my server (it's pvp) I've never been attacked.

Kara key is pretty easy. Shadow Labs is the only instance you have to do until the end. Arc you'll have to go about 1/2 way through, I even had some buddies of mine run until the mob's spawn point and summon me, easy. 3rd is Steam Vaults, which if you're a rogue, you can possibly solo (I did it in cat form). Stealth up and stay in the middle of the map, though more toward the right hand side. When you see water, jump in and look for the spawn point for the mob. For a rogue I'd recommend a healing pot or 2, and buy a Nagrand cherry or 2 cause you're fighting under water, and use a dodge trinket if you have it. I'm a tank spec druid so it was easy to bear form up and grind him out. The rest of the quest is runs of Durnholde and Black Morass. I didn't think either was very difficult.

Netherdrake is a pretty long line of quests. But... the key thing is this. You cannot get Netherdrake rep without first having epic flight training. You must get the training first.

Scryer rep is easy and important. You can get inscriptions on your gear that are very nice and exclusive to the scryers. Netherstorm has a ton of quests where you have to kill mobs that drop arcane tomes and the rings you need for rep. Also, if you get Aldor items from other quests don't be afraid to hit the trade channel in a city and ask for trade straight up. I've done this a lot.

Alchemy is a meh money maker from what I gather. The really high end guilds use pots for a lot of fights, but then again... they'll probably have their own alchemist to make the pots in-house. I'd recommend dropping mining and going full skinning/leatherworking later on. There are a lot of Bind on Equip leather recipies and, being a rogue, you can use them.

As far as other rep Netherwing is good, but as I said earlier you need epic flight training first. So focus on that for now. Daily quests are your friend. There are a couple in the Skettis area of Treokkar forest, as well as some in blade's edge mountains. If you do 5 or so that's 50 gold easy each day and they're short.

This is my main interest in WoW. I BG a lot. I've done enough to get 4/5 of the season 1 gladiator gear, season 1 maul, and I'm about to buy a vindicator's belt in just a bit. This gear will help a lot. I went from 8k ish hit points to pushing 10k, and from 1400 attack power in cat form to 2100. Keep in mind that I'm holding all of my cash and skimping on a few key enchants or it might be a bit higher ;)

I believe the blade's edge dailies start with a huge ogre in the lower city, near the fruit vendor. I mentioned a few above but here are a couple of sites I use and they help tremondously Thottbot & Wowhead HTH

I gotta go wash the :confused: off now.

 
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The Bad CEO said:
Rhino said:


The Bad CEO said:
bagger said:
2. Getting keyed for Kara (am now on the Shadow Labs portion of the quest chain)

The quest starts right in front of Kara; pretty easy.

geting the quest is easy :pickle: finishing the chain is another thing! It's not really necessary to go thru that headache if you're not in a rading guild

Any pointers would be awesome thanks.
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It's pretty easy IMO. Most of it is running aroun solo lvl 70 kills and turning in items. You have to go into Shadow labs and Steamvaults, but you don't even have to kill the main bosses to get the key frags. Black Morass can be a pain, but over all not so hard if the rest of the group knows their stuff. We run guildies through it all the time.I'd find a lvl 70 raiding guild if you're not in one already; it's the only way you'll see the rest of the game's content.

I have a

70 Hunter

57 Priest

62 Warrior
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There are three instances that you need to do for the Kara key - can't really solo those. (although Ralley Monkeys makes a good point for doing the Steam Vaults solo if you can stealth - which a rogue can do... so I guess it's not that bad...)My point is, unless he's in a raiding guild, the Kara key isn't that important. I've got mine nad I've used it maybe 3 times. Ever try to PuG Kara? It's a nightmare! I'm sure if he does join a raiding guild they'll help him get the key real easy and he'll make good use of it.

ETA: If we're posting WoW resumes for credential reasons, I've got a:

70 Warlock (spent over a year in a pretty serious raiding guild, but quit after I got tired of the drama involved in Kara and Gruul's Lair)

65 Pally

62 Hunter (Alliance)

60 Priest

54 Hunter (Horde)

 
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There are three instances that you need to do for the Kara key - can't really solo those. (although Ralley Monkeys makes a good point for doing the Steam Vaults solo if you can stealth - which a rogue can do... so I guess it's not that bad...)My point is, unless he's in a raiding guild, the Kara key isn't that important. I've got mine nad I've used it maybe 3 times. Ever try to PuG Kara? It's a nightmare! I'm sure if he does join a raiding guild they'll help him get the key real easy and he'll make good use of it.
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The game just starts getting interesting at lvl 70 IMO. I'd NEVER PuG Kara; gb being in a guild with over 60 members that are lvl 70 (about 300 toons total) so it's never hard to find a guild group.I don't PvP much, so it's all about raiding and seeing content.
 
When playing at upper levels, is it fairly common to get upgraded loot? I think this is an area where LOTRO is falling short. Once you hit 50, yes there is loot you can grind out over many many raids to get teh barter item, but for the most part, you never get anything in drops that you will ever use aside from recipes for crafting.

 
Mad Cow said:
When playing at upper levels, is it fairly common to get upgraded loot? I think this is an area where LOTRO is falling short. Once you hit 50, yes there is loot you can grind out over many many raids to get teh barter item, but for the most part, you never get anything in drops that you will ever use aside from recipes for crafting.
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WoW is a heavily item-centered game. There is ALWAYS better gear to be obtained. Sometimes you even need two sets of gear - depending on the situation. For example, soloing gear that is heavier on HP and AC versus PvP gear that is heavier on damage output and damage mitigation.And just about the time you think you have all the gear you want and don't need any more upgrades, they up the level cap or add a new instance, and put newer, better gear into the game.It's how they keep you coming back! :popcorn:
 
Rhino said:
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bagger said:
Hello fellow :nerd:s. Quick question. I just dinged 70 for the first time on my rogue Ultryst (although it appears the armory isn't working now). Now I feel like I don't have a goal. Maybe some of you guys who have played some endgame can help...

While leveling I had skinning and mining maxed so I had 2k in gold when I dinged so I bought my flight mount immediately :eek: . Now I feel like I am meandering around zone to zone without a specific goal. I was hoping some of you vets could help prioritize what I *think* I should be working on:

1. Epic flight mount (aka anouther 5k in gold).

2. Getting keyed for Kara (am now on the Shadow Labs portion of the quest chain)

3. I really want the Netherdrake mount....how/where do I start on that and should I do that instead of working on the epic flight mount?

4. Building Scryer rep. How important is it to do that over other objectives?

5. Switching from skinning to a profession that is helpful to a rogue endgame (I was thinking alchemy for pots). How dumb is this idea?

5. Building other rep?

6. Running BGs to get the gladiator set.

7. Running instances / heroics for better gear (better alternative than constantly running BGs)?

8. Running dailies. Where do you go to get these? I know of the PVP one in Shatt and I am too high of a level for the PVP in Thrallmar now...but aren't there daily instances?

I am sure there is a lot more I could think of, but I feel like I should pick a primary goal and work on that with some secondary goals to do in the downtime. My current strategy is to finish clearing Blade's Edge quests, then onto Shadowmoon (where I have already done some quests) or Area 52. Grind gold from mining / quests while passively building rep and running instances and BGs when I have time.

Any pointers would be awesome thanks.
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I would say the next step is to get keyed for Heroic instances. Getting keyed for Kara is only important if you are in a guild that runs Kara regularly, but even so your first focus is to get better gear, hit the rogue forums and ask them what stats you should be looking for, IIRC you want to get your chance to hit % as high as possible.If you are into PvP then you probably want to do BG's or get on a good Arena team to work towards gladiator.

Or you can do what I did and stopped playing my 70 and started building an army of twinks, using your 70 to farm gold to feed your twink hobby.
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This is all great advice. I'm going to assume you aren't in a raiding guild - if you were then you'd pretty much have this spelled out for you - you'd be focused on getting keyed for Kara, getting your heroic keys and getting geared up for bigger encounters like Gruul's Lair and so on.If you're not in a raiding guild then Kara isn't as big a deal. It's still nice to get keyed, because more and more people are doing pickup raids to Kara and you can get some very nice gear in there - but there's plenty else to do instead. Heroic instances are also great places to get very nice gear.

I would highly recommend you DON'T drop skinning. And here is why...

If you're truely interested in getting your Netherdrake then here's how it's going to work:

You're going to need to get your faction exhaulted with the Netherwing in order to get the mount. To do that, first you will need to get the 5k gold for an epic flying mount. You cannot get your faction past neutral with the netherwing if you haven't trained the highest level of riding skill.

Start by doing the daily quests in Blades Edge Mountains for Ogri'la faction and the daily quests in Terrokar Forrest for Sha'tari Skyguard faction. You can get more details on those daily quests from Thotbott or the WoW web site. Basically there are six quests that you're allowed to do once per day. It will make you about 75 gold a day doing those quests. This is one of the fastest ways to build up the 5k gold you need for the epic flying mount. It only takes about an hour to knock all those quests out. If you have time I recommend doing other farming on the side to speed up making the gold.

Once you get the flying epic mount there's a whole string of quests that will start you on the path to Netherwing faction. Once you start that, you'll have about 7 or 8 daily quests you can do to build Netherwing faction. It'll take about a month of doing those quests every day to get to exhalted and get your drake. Again, those can be done in about an hour - maybe two - depending how many of the dailys you decided to do every day, how fast you can solo kill stuff, how good the drop rates are, how croweded the areas are, etc... Basically you can work at whatever pace you like.

Now, the reason you don't drop skinning - there is an extra daily quest for Netherwing faction that is only available to SKINNERS - you basically turn in 30 skins a day for more faction. This helps the grind go MUCH faster. I've seen many people drop their other tradeskills and take up skinning just to get thru Netherwing faction faster.

Wow... that's a lotta :mellow: info right there - I'll let you digest all that. If you need more info let me know.
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All great advice here. I would definitely work on your Kara key, it's pretty easy to get and kara pickup groups are pretty common now. In many cases they are comprised of good players who are running their alts through. The epic flight mount should be a goal also, it makes farming considerably easier. While netherdrakes are basically a game staus symbol, I always thought they do look very cool. If you do your netherwing dailies religiously as they become available you should be able to get one in about a week and a half, maybe 2hours a day for that time period. Possiibly even less time depending on the time of day at which you do them, early morning or late night on your server will be less populated and you will find many more netherwing eggs (an extra source of netherwing reputation on top of the quests) than you might at other times of day. Of course, that's probaly difficult given work schedules.

I would run heroics as much as possible to improve your gear (Mech is the easiest and least time consuming) do the heroic daily (gives you bonus badges and usually 25 gold on top of it), farm the gold to get your epic flight skill, do the netherwing dailies for rep to get the drake (you will make about 100g a day doing this), and get Kara keyed.

 
Just read all the new posts, lots of different opinions it looks like.

My SP dropped skinning for mining, wish I would have done it a long time ago. I made good money skinning but prices (for thick clefthoof leather mostly) dropped significantly. I would advise against dropping mining. The primals you get from motes, as well as gems and raw materials for BS'ing will earn you tons of money.

Epic flight/netherdrake is definitely a status symbol (but most everything about the game is, essentially) but once you have it you will wonder how you ever did without. Especially for farming.

You should be able to run heroics even if you just hit 70. With the faction requirements lowered from revered to honored to run heroics, the gear requirements have basically dropped as well. Since you're dps and not a tank or healer, your gear requirements are not as stringent. You may have occasional difficulty finding a group if the person starting it is very anal (as in looks up your gear on the armory) but most people won't do this, and generally groups will consist of a mix of epicced out players and less geared players anyways. So basically, if you have blue quest items in your gear go ahead and start with heroics. My SP just ran heroic Mech last night with an extremely undergeared group (the tank was wearing a green BP) and, while we did wipe a few times-more due to other players not knowing pulls than to gear-we did finally make it all the way through for a nice 6 badges and 25g.

 
Rhino said:
The Bad CEO said:
Rhino said:


The Bad CEO said:
bagger said:
2. Getting keyed for Kara (am now on the Shadow Labs portion of the quest chain)

The quest starts right in front of Kara; pretty easy.

geting the quest is easy :confused: finishing the chain is another thing! It's not really necessary to go thru that headache if you're not in a rading guild

Any pointers would be awesome thanks.
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It's pretty easy IMO. Most of it is running aroun solo lvl 70 kills and turning in items. You have to go into Shadow labs and Steamvaults, but you don't even have to kill the main bosses to get the key frags. Black Morass can be a pain, but over all not so hard if the rest of the group knows their stuff. We run guildies through it all the time.I'd find a lvl 70 raiding guild if you're not in one already; it's the only way you'll see the rest of the game's content.

I have a

70 Hunter

57 Priest

62 Warrior
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There are three instances that you need to do for the Kara key - can't really solo those. (although Ralley Monkeys makes a good point for doing the Steam Vaults solo if you can stealth - which a rogue can do... so I guess it's not that bad...)My point is, unless he's in a raiding guild, the Kara key isn't that important. I've got mine nad I've used it maybe 3 times. Ever try to PuG Kara? It's a nightmare! I'm sure if he does join a raiding guild they'll help him get the key real easy and he'll make good use of it.

ETA: If we're posting WoW resumes for credential reasons, I've got a:

70 Warlock (spent over a year in a pretty serious raiding guild, but quit after I got tired of the drama involved in Kara and Gruul's Lair)

65 Pally

62 Hunter (Alliance)

60 Priest

54 Hunter (Horde)
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70 Shadowpriest, 70 warrior, and 62 pally here. Bummer it wasn't easier to move servers. My guild is more a casual raiding guild, in TK and SSC atm, basically just starting there though we have killed Voidreaver twice in a row now. We run alts through Kara now, I dont think pugs are too bad for kara generally speaking. Usually even though they are pugs, the people running them are a bit more selective, and many of the characters are alts of experienced raiders who know the instance and fights in depth.
 
For the OP, if you're at all interested in playing an MMO, WOW is your best bet to start. Its a pretty easy game and despite what alot of people posting here are saying, its not nearly as time intensive as most MMOs. Its a bit too cartoonish and easy for me, then again Im fairly certain Ive retired from these games.

 
dparker713 said:
For the OP, if you're at all interested in playing an MMO, WOW is your best bet to start. Its a pretty easy game and despite what alot of people posting here are saying, its not nearly as time intensive as most MMOs. Its a bit too cartoonish and easy for me, then again Im fairly certain Ive retired from these games.
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Depends what you want out of it I guess. If you want to "win" (though that's the wrong word for a MMO) or be successful in the game, it without a doubt is time intensive. Not sure what you're comparing it to in terms of other MMO's, or what your standards are, but if you want to get even close to end game, or reach any of the other "benchmarks", it is very time intensive. This has been covered in any of the myriad of other WOW threads, but end game raids typically require several hours a night, for at least 2-3 nights a week. Add in farming for gold, improving your gear outside of raids (e.g. in heroics), working on reputation with any of the several factions, you're looking at a ton of hours a week. In what way does this not constitute "time intensive"?I agree it is cartoonish and easy, but still very fun and addicting. In terms of difficulty, it is not even remotely close to as difficult as EQ was for example.
 
Mad Cow said:
bagger said:
Mad Cow said:
I am currently downloading the patches manually.1.12.X1.12.X-2.012.0.X to 2.2.0and so on:excited:
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:headbang:it does take a long time.
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If I were at home with my 8 Mbps connection, it would be no problem.But I am at work with D freaking SL. :hot:
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MC, a tip.WoW doesn't put anything in your registry. Whenever I install WoW on another PC, I just copy my entire WoW folder to a portable hard drive (or just over the network) to the new PC. So in the future if you decide to "uninstall" the game, just back it up. When the time comes to reinstall, just copy the folder to the PC you want to play on. Chances are you'll have to update a patch or two, but you definitely won't have to go through what you are now.
 
Zasada said:
Mad Cow said:
bagger said:
Mad Cow said:
I am currently downloading the patches manually.1.12.X1.12.X-2.012.0.X to 2.2.0and so on:lmao:
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:confused:it does take a long time.
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If I were at home with my 8 Mbps connection, it would be no problem.But I am at work with D freaking SL. :lmao:
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Cool. THanks.MC, a tip.WoW doesn't put anything in your registry. Whenever I install WoW on another PC, I just copy my entire WoW folder to a portable hard drive (or just over the network) to the new PC. So in the future if you decide to "uninstall" the game, just back it up. When the time comes to reinstall, just copy the folder to the PC you want to play on. Chances are you'll have to update a patch or two, but you definitely won't have to go through what you are now.
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Mad Cow said:
KnowledgeReignsSupreme said:
matuski said:
I would like to thank my ancient nvidia tnt2 m64 videocard for preventing me from going down this wicked path of WoW addiction.

:thumbdown: downloaded the 10 day trial only to get DENIED!
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Ouch.
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Well if PCI is the way he rolls, he COULD get a FX5500 for a song and play WoW with that.
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Would this let me play relatively smoothly?I wouldn't mind spending more for a better card... what is the best I can do with a 1.5 P4 with 512 RAM?

Or is it time to put this baby out of its misery?

 
The Bad CEO said:
Rhino said:
There are three instances that you need to do for the Kara key - can't really solo those. (although Ralley Monkeys makes a good point for doing the Steam Vaults solo if you can stealth - which a rogue can do... so I guess it's not that bad...)My point is, unless he's in a raiding guild, the Kara key isn't that important. I've got mine nad I've used it maybe 3 times. Ever try to PuG Kara? It's a nightmare! I'm sure if he does join a raiding guild they'll help him get the key real easy and he'll make good use of it.
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The game just starts getting interesting at lvl 70 IMO. I'd NEVER PuG Kara; gb being in a guild with over 60 members that are lvl 70 (about 300 toons total) so it's never hard to find a guild group.I don't PvP much, so it's all about raiding and seeing content.
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What servers are you guys on?
 
matuski said:
Mad Cow said:
KnowledgeReignsSupreme said:
matuski said:
I would like to thank my ancient nvidia tnt2 m64 videocard for preventing me from going down this wicked path of WoW addiction.

:D downloaded the 10 day trial only to get DENIED!
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Ouch.
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Well if PCI is the way he rolls, he COULD get a FX5500 for a song and play WoW with that.
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Would this let me play relatively smoothly?I wouldn't mind spending more for a better card... what is the best I can do with a 1.5 P4 with 512 RAM?

Or is it time to put this baby out of its misery?
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Just load a shell and call it.
 
Ranethe said:
dparker713 said:
For the OP, if you're at all interested in playing an MMO, WOW is your best bet to start. Its a pretty easy game and despite what alot of people posting here are saying, its not nearly as time intensive as most MMOs. Its a bit too cartoonish and easy for me, then again Im fairly certain Ive retired from these games.
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Depends what you want out of it I guess. If you want to "win" (though that's the wrong word for a MMO) or be successful in the game, it without a doubt is time intensive. Not sure what you're comparing it to in terms of other MMO's, or what your standards are, but if you want to get even close to end game, or reach any of the other "benchmarks", it is very time intensive. This has been covered in any of the myriad of other WOW threads, but end game raids typically require several hours a night, for at least 2-3 nights a week. Add in farming for gold, improving your gear outside of raids (e.g. in heroics), working on reputation with any of the several factions, you're looking at a ton of hours a week. In what way does this not constitute "time intensive"?I agree it is cartoonish and easy, but still very fun and addicting. In terms of difficulty, it is not even remotely close to as difficult as EQ was for example.
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Leveling in WoW is fairly fast, especially if you're comparing it to a game like the original EQ. But even in comparison to EQ2 its faster, and Blizzard is fairly slow to roll out expansions and level increases. As for the end game, WoW raids are on the low end of time commitment. The original EQ is probably still the standard bearer for raid time, but 2-3 nights a week raiding is actually a light schedule for alot of these games. Don't get me wrong, its still a boatload of time playing in a virtual world, but as far as hardcore gaming goes WoW is just at the tip of the iceberg.
 
dparker713 said:
Ranethe said:
dparker713 said:
For the OP, if you're at all interested in playing an MMO, WOW is your best bet to start. Its a pretty easy game and despite what alot of people posting here are saying, its not nearly as time intensive as most MMOs. Its a bit too cartoonish and easy for me, then again Im fairly certain Ive retired from these games.
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Depends what you want out of it I guess. If you want to "win" (though that's the wrong word for a MMO) or be successful in the game, it without a doubt is time intensive. Not sure what you're comparing it to in terms of other MMO's, or what your standards are, but if you want to get even close to end game, or reach any of the other "benchmarks", it is very time intensive. This has been covered in any of the myriad of other WOW threads, but end game raids typically require several hours a night, for at least 2-3 nights a week. Add in farming for gold, improving your gear outside of raids (e.g. in heroics), working on reputation with any of the several factions, you're looking at a ton of hours a week. In what way does this not constitute "time intensive"?I agree it is cartoonish and easy, but still very fun and addicting. In terms of difficulty, it is not even remotely close to as difficult as EQ was for example.
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Leveling in WoW is fairly fast, especially if you're comparing it to a game like the original EQ. But even in comparison to EQ2 its faster, and Blizzard is fairly slow to roll out expansions and level increases. As for the end game, WoW raids are on the low end of time commitment. The original EQ is probably still the standard bearer for raid time, but 2-3 nights a week raiding is actually a light schedule for alot of these games. Don't get me wrong, its still a boatload of time playing in a virtual world, but as far as hardcore gaming goes WoW is just at the tip of the iceberg.
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I see what you're saying. I didn't play EQ2 but remember well the 6-8 hour raids in the original EQ. No such thing in WOW. You can do a raid in 2-3 hours.
 
I have some BB credits, so am gonna run down and get a 60 day to give it another run.

 
matuski said:
The Bad CEO said:
Rhino said:
There are three instances that you need to do for the Kara key - can't really solo those. (although Ralley Monkeys makes a good point for doing the Steam Vaults solo if you can stealth - which a rogue can do... so I guess it's not that bad...)My point is, unless he's in a raiding guild, the Kara key isn't that important. I've got mine nad I've used it maybe 3 times. Ever try to PuG Kara? It's a nightmare! I'm sure if he does join a raiding guild they'll help him get the key real easy and he'll make good use of it.
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The game just starts getting interesting at lvl 70 IMO. I'd NEVER PuG Kara; gb being in a guild with over 60 members that are lvl 70 (about 300 toons total) so it's never hard to find a guild group.I don't PvP much, so it's all about raiding and seeing content.
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Quel'dorei
 
I've got toons on a lot of servers, but right now I am only on Earthen Ring (horde) - undead priest named Leach.

 
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