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You stat geeks that have never seen the football field forget that the only number that matters is 10. That is the number of wins he led the Titans too while playing in the toughest division in football. Will he ever break Marino's records? No, but he will win more Superbowls if the Titans provide wr like Marino had in Miami.Andy Herron said:
You know you can have your opinion on Vince but come on.... yeah the Titans should have drafted some quality WR but Vince aint no Marino.
I agree with that statement. He will probably never lead the league in passing, but he also is not like Marino in a good way. He is a winner. He just wills his team to victory. How can a player who makes his team better and is a natural born leader who just wins football games be overrated? I thought the object of football is to win the game.
This has to be a huge
trip. You are correct he has only played one season, and yet he has already set the league record for most yards rushing in a game.I remember when people were writing LJ's HOF induction speech based on less than a full season behind one of the better OL's in the league. Wasn't that long ago.This has to be a hugetrip. You are correct he has only played one season, and yet he has already set the league record for most yards rushing in a game.
I have to disagree wholeheartedly about Welker being overrated, the guy makes key plays all over the field in both the receiving game, running game, and return game. I've seen him throw some incredible blocks opening up huge lanes for RBs before, make big special teams plays when they're needed, and make incredible moves after the catch to get first downs. Dude is worth his weight in gold.
This is my point exactly, o-line makes or breaks so much for a RB. The numbers LJ put up behind that great line in KC dominate what ADP did last year. 9 starts and 1750 yards with 20 tds iirc. Look at him behind a bad/average line. I'm not trying to say that ADP is not talented, far from it. But behind the same line that got an average Chester Taylor 1200 yards one season prior, ADP is being referred to as the best RB in the game by many and the best EVER by some. It blows my mind. Just because you are good doesn't mean you can't be supremely overrated. The OPs question most overrated player today is then in my mind easy-ADP.I remember when people were writing LJ's HOF induction speech based on less than a full season behind one of the better OL's in the league. Wasn't that long ago.This has to be a hugetrip. You are correct he has only played one season, and yet he has already set the league record for most yards rushing in a game.
He may very well do those things well, but bottom line is he struggles to catch 65 passes if Moss isn't drawing a constant double team.
Not at all. Marvin's a real cool guy.
Marino won a ton of games.Over time I'm starting to forgive him not winning a Supe and see some horrible drafting/player management by the Fins. Anyhow, the Young comparison doesn't fit for me in any manner. Marino made it to a Supe and set records, he was a pocket QB that rarely ran, he had solid WRs...nothing seems similar.
Welker is not the flashiest guy, by any stretch, but he is a high quality football player. And don't you have to be "highly rated" to be overrated?
Awful. Just awful.I have no idea who was the first guy to say Vince Young "wills the team to win", but he should get a nickel every time someone regurgitates it.
But what about the time Vince drove his team all the way to the opponent's 43 yard line, then WILLED his kicker to kick a 60-yard field goal?WINNER. Period.
Wasn't that the same game where he willed Pacman to 2 big returns (one for a TD)? Or was that a different one?
I was cheering for the Giants to beat the Patriots, but please. Joe Montana's drives were surgical. In the Super Bowl he never heaved the ball up on a prayer and had a guy make a miraculous catch to keep a drive alive. The Giants had some good fortune on that drive to go along with their great play. But Joe Montana could have faced a 200-yard field and still put the ball in the end zone to beat the Bengals. Not much luck there.Remember though? how the expert thought he was garbage?look what he did! Tom Brady was 3-0 in Super Bowls before losing to a manning. I thought this match, unlike what the point spread thought, was going to be extremely close. the giants win it on a heroic joe montana style drive by eli manning, who is in his mid 20's
Let's get this straight. EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL STEALS SIGNALS! The Pats got in trouble for the manner in which they did it. That makes what you say irrelevant on any level.
Didn't he make the Pro Bowl last year?Julius Peppers would be my most overrated.
And "Shakespeare In Love" won the Academy Awards one year. Both have about as much meaning.
I agree but the fact that Roy Williams made the pro bowl means that many people, whoever they may be, consider Williams to be, at the very least, a decent safety. He definitely belongs in the discussion about being overrated because he is.
Don't know why there's even continued posting after this one- he answered the question perfect hands downI would add:Most Overrated Team: Denver
I think the reason most people believe he will be so great is just the WAY that he runs. I don't care about his stats so much. When I see him run, I see greatness.This is my point exactly, o-line makes or breaks so much for a RB. The numbers LJ put up behind that great line in KC dominate what ADP did last year. 9 starts and 1750 yards with 20 tds iirc. Look at him behind a bad/average line. I'm not trying to say that ADP is not talented, far from it. But behind the same line that got an average Chester Taylor 1200 yards one season prior, ADP is being referred to as the best RB in the game by many and the best EVER by some. It blows my mind. Just because you are good doesn't mean you can't be supremely overrated. The OPs question most overrated player today is then in my mind easy-ADP.I remember when people were writing LJ's HOF induction speech based on less than a full season behind one of the better OL's in the league. Wasn't that long ago.This has to be a hugetrip. You are correct he has only played one season, and yet he has already set the league record for most yards rushing in a game.
Ray Lewis has been overrated for years.
lmao. you obviously know little to nothing about football.A lot of pissing in the pool for this time of year.
Experiance that point this out ..??tell that to the waitress he cursed out at our table because he did not have a spoon for his ice cream ..... and then continued to curse her out even more when she poointed out it was in his folded napkin with the other utensils.
Watch a Texans game. He's the best player on their team and its not even close.3nOut said:
I have to agree. The Patriots didn't get enough credit for that WR addition. It was just as important as signing Moss imo. That guy doesn't take plays off. He's like Wayne Chrebet (who also had a great role to play) X 10.zoonation said:
Obviously. That's why his own coach only started him 13 games. Must be tough to catch passes when you're uncovered in the slot all day.I'd take Brady, Moss, Light, Mankins, Koppen, Stallworth and Neal all ahead of him. He's an above average player in a great situation, and a perfect fit for that offense. Great addition by the Pats to pick him up for as little as they did, but if Moss isn't there he's a very different player.zoonation said:
It's trendy these days to call CJ overrated. Bonus points for calling him the 'second best receiver on his own team'.
I have a hard time believing this happened..
You obviously don't know football. You may not like him. He may be brash, but don't confuse that with being overrated.Ray Lewis has been overrated for years.
