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MoJo or Beastmode? (1 Viewer)
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Challenge Everything
Footballguy
Wrong forum but to answer your question... Ryan Grant.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
... says the guy from Wisconsin. There's a shocker.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
I traded up for a 2nd first round pick in an initial dynasty draft a few weeks ago, and landed them both. First Lynch, then MJD a few picks later.
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Footballguy
Who is Beastmode? I get the nickname for MoJo, however both of these nicknames are stupid... especially Beastmode. Where the hell did that one come from? Is it that difficult to use proper names and type out proper spelling of those names? Seriously.... says the guy from Wisconsin. There's a shocker.
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
Challenge Everything = Crankymode - Spread the word.Who is Beastmode? I get the nickname for MoJo, however both of these nicknames are stupid... especially Beastmode. Where the hell did that one come from? Is it that difficult to use proper names and type out proper spelling of those names? Seriously.... says the guy from Wisconsin. There's a shocker.
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
Hey, no nicknames.Challenge Everything = Crankymode - Spread the word.Who is Beastmode? I get the nickname for MoJo, however both of these nicknames are stupid... especially Beastmode. Where the hell did that one come from? Is it that difficult to use proper names and type out proper spelling of those names? Seriously.... says the guy from Wisconsin. There's a shocker.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
MJD is at best a part time player, Fred Taylor is the main guy in Jax, especially after last year's performance.
Taylor still has a lot left in the tank, and he'll be hanging around for a while.
Lynch, if he stays healthy , will get more work and thus more fantasy pts than MJD by way of rushing yards, etc..
the only snag with Lynch is that Fred Jackson will get more playing time in 2008..
But , unless Lynch gets hurt or the Bills switch to a full-blown RBBC, he should out-perform MJD.
Taylor still has a lot left in the tank, and he'll be hanging around for a while.
Lynch, if he stays healthy , will get more work and thus more fantasy pts than MJD by way of rushing yards, etc..
the only snag with Lynch is that Fred Jackson will get more playing time in 2008..
But , unless Lynch gets hurt or the Bills switch to a full-blown RBBC, he should out-perform MJD.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
Who would you rather have in dynasty PPR?
Maurice Jones-Drew [ 29 ] ** [49.15%]
Marshawn Lynch [ 30 ] ** [50.85%]
Good thread. I voted for Lynch. He's the guy and doesn't have another Pro Bowler on the roster for the next season or three. Fred really had some money problems earlier in his career so he is going to hang on until the bitter bitter end. MJD is an equal in terms of talent, but not situation. At least not for the next few years.
Maurice Jones-Drew [ 29 ] ** [49.15%]
Marshawn Lynch [ 30 ] ** [50.85%]
Good thread. I voted for Lynch. He's the guy and doesn't have another Pro Bowler on the roster for the next season or three. Fred really had some money problems earlier in his career so he is going to hang on until the bitter bitter end. MJD is an equal in terms of talent, but not situation. At least not for the next few years.
Zoomanji
Footballguy
Even when Taylor finally does I leave, I don't see them putting the full load on MJD.Lynch on the other hand will see 25-30 touches a week and maybe more as it gets colder in Buffalo (or Toronto :brrr
It seems MJD doesn't need the full load to beat Lynch, he beat him last year in PPR. Exactly how many more touches does Lynch need to outperform MJD?Taylor turns 33 before the SuperBowl, his workload will continue to go down. MJD doesn't need Taylor to get hurt, but it would help. Lynch had a nice year. 4.0 ypc. Some TDs. But I've seen people rank him in the top 5? The guy was good last year, not elite. Lynch is just a little overrated. In PPR MJD was a top 10 back, both his first 2 years. Lynch wasn't last year. 18 catches? PPR hurts Lynchs value, enough to bump MJD ahead of him.Zoomanji said:Tanner9919 said:Even when Taylor finally does I leave, I don't see them putting the full load on MJD.Lynch on the other hand will see 25-30 touches a week and maybe more as it gets colder in Buffalo (or Toronto :brrr
Zoomanji
Footballguy
Good try using stats to support your player. Lynch missed 3 games and was a rookie. MJD missed one and only outscored him by as little as 6 and as much as 26 points (I checked 5 of my leagues, not counting the one with return yards which sends MJD over the top).Looking at weekly average Lynch was as high as 9 (also 13, 17 and 17) and MJD was 18 (16,18 and 18).When you look at weekly rankings Lynch was higher in all of them but most by less than 2 points which would lead me to say they are equivalent but I see a bigger work-load for Lynch in the future as the offense gets better in Buffalo allowing them to run moreAnd sure, top 5 is over-rated for him but I see him as top 10 and MJD as top 12.It seems MJD doesn't need the full load to beat Lynch, he beat him last year in PPR. Exactly how many more touches does Lynch need to outperform MJD?Taylor turns 33 before the SuperBowl, his workload will continue to go down. MJD doesn't need Taylor to get hurt, but it would help. Lynch had a nice year. 4.0 ypc. Some TDs. But I've seen people rank him in the top 5? The guy was good last year, not elite. Lynch is just a little overrated. In PPR MJD was a top 10 back, both his first 2 years. Lynch wasn't last year. 18 catches? PPR hurts Lynchs value, enough to bump MJD ahead of him.Zoomanji said::whoosh: Even when Taylor finally does I leave, I don't see them putting the full load on MJD.Lynch on the other hand will see 25-30 touches a week and maybe more as it gets colder in Buffalo (or Toronto :brrrTanner9919 said:
ThePittbully
Footballguy
Mo Jones Drew all day and night, summer spring winter fall
Good try ignoring facts.MJD is behind a borderline HOF RB still producing at a very high level. Is the leader of the team. Face of the franchise. Yeah MJD can't put him to the bench for the bulk of the carries, either could Lynch if he was with the Jags. If MJD was on the Bills, getting those kind of touches, he'd be KILLING Lynch. MJD is beating Lynch, with almost 1/2 the carries. No one is going to replace Taylor except MJD. No RB is coming to the Jags to start over MJD. Once Freddy fades away, and MJD is starting. Now they might bring in someone for RBBC, sure. But MJD only needs 200-220 carries to be a lock for a top 10 RB. He's been top 10 with 160 carries. Like you said, Lynch is a rookie. People should slow down a little. He had a nice year. MJD is more talented (on every level, HS/college/pro) and is 10x more explosive. And in PPR, MJD gets a huge edge catching the ball. Lynch really isn't in my top 12 in PPR. He'll catch 20-22 balls, 1,000 ish yards, and iffy TDs on a bad offensive team. MJD is RBBC with a borderline HOF RB, and still puts him on the bench in key times of the game. I only see MJDs touches going up as Taylor gets older. I've seen Lynch get all the touches, ehh, it was okay. MJD gets 280 carries? He's a lock for top 5 RB. He's just better.And yes he's short, and horribly injury prone
, I've heard it a 1000 times. MJD legs are twice the size of Lynchs, I'll roll with that on a 280 carry season.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Why not just call it exactly and say 21 catches.Good try ignoring facts.MJD is behind a borderline HOF RB still producing at a very high level. Is the leader of the team. Face of the franchise. Yeah MJD can't put him to the bench for the bulk of the carries, either could Lynch if he was with the Jags.
If MJD was on the Bills, getting those kind of touches, he'd be KILLING Lynch. MJD is beating Lynch, with almost 1/2 the carries.
No one is going to replace Taylor except MJD. No RB is coming to the Jags to start over MJD. Once Freddy fades away, and MJD is starting. Now they might bring in someone for RBBC, sure. But MJD only needs 200-220 carries to be a lock for a top 10 RB. He's been top 10 with 160 carries.
Like you said, Lynch is a rookie. People should slow down a little. He had a nice year. MJD is more talented (on every level, HS/college/pro) and is 10x more explosive. And in PPR, MJD gets a huge edge catching the ball.
Lynch really isn't in my top 12 in PPR. He'll catch 20-22 balls, 1,000 ish yards, and iffy TDs on a bad offensive team. MJD is RBBC with a borderline HOF RB, and still puts him on the bench in key times of the game. I only see MJDs touches going up as Taylor gets older. I've seen Lynch get all the touches, ehh, it was okay. MJD gets 280 carries? He's a lock for top 5 RB. He's just better.
And yes he's short, and horribly injury prone, I've heard it a 1000 times. MJD legs are twice the size of Lynchs, I'll roll with that on a 280 carry season.
geoff8695
Footballguy
From the other MJD vs. Lynch thread back in March:
Another post from same thread:From the MJD thread:
It's about as close as you're going to get to a definitive statement that MJD will eventually be taking over as the 'primary' RB.
As for Fred Taylor, clearly history teaches us that 32 year old RBs are far more likely to be destined for the scrap heap rather than fantasy greatness. IMO now is the time to acquire MJD in dynasty leagues. This may be the last opportunity to grab MJD while he is still somewhat affordable.
Barring unforeseen injury, by this time next year MJD will be valued as a top 5 dynasty RB.
And the **** OFFICIAL **** MAURICE JONES DREW THREAD, multiple threads linked here b/c ‘MJD’ is unsearchable
Yeah why ever give a range, just average it. *lol*That's a RANGE - You know, a high and low? Would 5-100 be better? Oh wait sorry 52.5 catches. But thanks for bringing that to the table.Why not just call it exactly and say 21 catches.
I think the point he was making was that if the range was going to be that ridiculously small, why not just give an average? 5-100 is not a small range, so averaging makes no sense. 5-7 IS a small range, so averaging makes more sense. If I were to say "he should get between 20.998 and 21.002 catches", averaging makes even more sense. The tighter the range, the more you should just average it.Yeah why ever give a range, just average it. *lol*That's a RANGE - You know, a high and low? Would 5-100 be better? Oh wait sorry 52.5 catches. But thanks for bringing that to the table.Why not just call it exactly and say 21 catches.
You're right. I revise it to 6*Pi-7*Pi catches.I think the point he was making was that if the range was going to be that ridiculously small, why not just give an average? 5-100 is not a small range, so averaging makes no sense. 5-7 IS a small range, so averaging makes more sense. If I were to say "he should get between 20.998 and 21.002 catches", averaging makes even more sense. The tighter the range, the more you should just average it.Yeah why ever give a range, just average it. *lol*That's a RANGE - You know, a high and low? Would 5-100 be better? Oh wait sorry 52.5 catches. But thanks for bringing that to the table.Why not just call it exactly and say 21 catches.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Yeah why ever give a range, just average it. *lol*That's a RANGE - You know, a high and low? Would 5-100 be better? Oh wait sorry 52.5 catches. But thanks for bringing that to the table.Why not just call it exactly and say 21 catches.
Quite a close range. What would you like to bet that his numbers fall outside of your "range?"
Erie County District Attorney Frank Clark calls Bills running back Marshawn Lynch the "principal suspect" in an alleged hit-and-run accident, saying the player was inside his vehicle when it struck and injured a pedestrian.
Oh and MJD has better character. If you're into that thing. MJD never brags about himself, and when discussing himself always credits Fred Taylor for the early success he's had.
Oh and MJD has better character. If you're into that thing. MJD never brags about himself, and when discussing himself always credits Fred Taylor for the early success he's had.
