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Stumbled into this and thought it was pretty good stuff; what, with the NFL Bargaining process coming up for review.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it ended up shaping the future of the NFL.

It's a long article...some serious thought went into it, takes a while to read...worth the read, that's for sure:

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I'd better check with the privacy policy guys at the source before adding the link.

Added by Edit: so much for getting an OK from a source to use their content...as in ignore the request.

This doesn't keep me from citing the article and the source and providing a brief synopsis...a "book report" if you will:

1.) Source is Scouts.com

2.) Article title is "A New Approach to The NFL Draft Process"

3.) Author is Tom Marino http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Marino

4.) Synopsis:

a.) Move the draft location: from Indy to Atlanta.,

b.) Move draft date: from last weekend in April to second weekend in March,

c.) Expand combine invitees list: from 400 to include a "secondary combine" of an additional 320...purpose is to eliminate Pro Day workouts and associated expenses for NFL Clubs,

d.) First two rounds conducted Friday evening...10 minute clock, round #1; 5 minute clock, round #2

e.) Remaining five rounds replaced by an additional 28 round "open draft": an individual player can e drafted a maximum of three times

f.) any player drafted in two consecutive rounds and not drafted by another club before consecutive picks are entered by that same team, is awarded to that club...player is removed from the draft pool. There are some qualifiers to this process, such as consecutive picks having to be the drafting teams "orginal pick" (not acquired picks by trade),

g.) players lost in FA no longer result in teams being awarded "compensatory picks", the rational being if they can't anty up the $'s, why should they be rewarded?

Commentary follows: the trading of second day picks no longer makes sense because those picks give an NFL team the 1 in 3 rights to signing drafted players. Scouts roll is expanded from only talent evaluators to being more of a "recruiter" as they would play an expanded roll in negotiating and signing players.

There is some discussion centering around fifth years seniors and "entry draft" stuff, details that address the "what if" scenarios.

Rubber Hits The Road: New Draft approach allows individual players the right to establish their individual market. Example: a player drafted twice in round three and once in round four has a different market than the player drafted once in round 28....limited market, limited potential.

The closing paragraphs detail the system and make points about the advantages that acrue to each NFL Team, those advantages being "Scouting Department and Team Orgainzational Advantage" based. Salary cap is retained, teams draft 30 choices deep and have the cash to sign 8-10 layers, each player having an individual market.

All in all, this proposal is written by a former NFL scout...it represents some 30 years experience condensed into a system that solves a bunch of problems. Marino's observation is that the current system rewards the worst team scouting departments and is subject to increasing scrutiny from anti-trust courts.

The entire article is well thought out and well presented. In the scenario that the players and the owners are facing, this type of proposal makes a lot of sense for both sides.

 
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Stumbled into this and thought it was pretty good stuff; what, with the NFL Bargaining process coming up for review.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it ended up shaping the future of the NFL.

It's a long article...some serious thought went into it, takes a while to read...worth the read, that's for sure:

link removed

I'd better check with the privacy policy guys at the source before adding the link.
Can you summarize?
 
"an individual player can e drafted a maximum of three times"

This doesn't make any sense to me. Sounds needlessly complicated, and for what?

 
"an individual player can e drafted a maximum of three times"

This doesn't make any sense to me. Sounds needlessly complicated, and for what?
Part of what the NFL faces in the renegotiation of the collective bargaining agreement is the continuing exemption that it currently enjoys in anti-trust type situations.Essentially, the NFL is now coming on record as saying that the rookie salary structure is "ludicrous", the Commish has made a point of mentioning that in the last several days.

When you ask for what, you may as well ask the question of when because everything that we now take for granted is going to be under the scrutiny of the owner's and the player's negotitating a new collective bargaining agreement.

The agreement that we take for granted....the one that enables our "sport" is about to undergo an upheaval that is going to make us look back and and say "...boy, those were the good old days."

As to three teams drafting a siungle guy over multiple rounds: I believe that proposal is an effort to address certain limitations that are likely to surface during the re-negotiation of the collective bargaining agreement. One player being drafted (restricted) to negotiating with one team may become a thing of the past.

Just because we think that we do business in a special place that's "allways the same" doesn't mean that we we are going to enjoy it that way in the future. There's some serious changes coming that are going to make what we do for fun and favor a lot different than it is now.

:goodposting:

 
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As to three teams drafting a siungle guy over multiple rounds: I believe that proposal is an effort to address certain limitations that are likely to surface during the re-negotiation of the collective bargsining agreement. One player being drafted (restricted) to negotiating with one team may become a thing of the past.
This has to be the most bizarre statement I've read on this message board in years.
 
As to three teams drafting a siungle guy over multiple rounds: I believe that proposal is an effort to address certain limitations that are likely to surface during the re-negotiation of the collective bargsining agreement. One player being drafted (restricted) to negotiating with one team may become a thing of the past.
This has to be the most bizarre statement I've read on this message board in years.
I get a kick from Champaigne.. :hifive: ..and you guys.Anything that requires the slighest extension of imagination, brain power or any consideration of the possibility that the collective bargaining agreement's renogiation is going to have major implications for the game that you spend way to much time and energy on escapes you.

Imagine that the game's gonna change, Sucka....makes more sense?

Maybe we should retitle this thread to "Ways Comin' Bros" :suds: and see if we can strike up a conversation?

There is simply too much money at stake. :unsure: The manner in which the NFL's owners, and it's players, conduct business is defined.......untill it collapses. The nature of the NFL AS WE CURRENTLY KNOW IT is going to be subjected to some major change. :2cents:

:doh: :grad: It's going to be somewhat difficult to field a FFB team for Week #1 of the 2010 season when there's no National Football League. :scared: :tfp: :pics:

 
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As to three teams drafting a siungle guy over multiple rounds: I believe that proposal is an effort to address certain limitations that are likely to surface during the re-negotiation of the collective bargsining agreement. One player being drafted (restricted) to negotiating with one team may become a thing of the past.
This has to be the most bizarre statement I've read on this message board in years.
I get a kick from Champaigne.. :hifive: ..and you guys.Anything that requires the slighest extension of imagination, brain power or any consideration of the possibility that the collective bargaining agreement's renogiation is going to have major implications for the game that you spend way to much time and energy on escapes you.

Imagine that the game's gonna change, Sucka....makes more sense?

Maybe we should retitle this thread to "Ways Comin' Bros" :suds: and see if we can strike up a conversation?

There is simply too much money at stake. :moneybag: The manner in which the NFL's owners, and it's players, conduct business is defined.......untill it collapses. The nature of the NFL AS WE CURRENTLY KNOW IT is going to be subjected to some major change. :thumbup:

:doh: :grad: It's going to be somewhat difficult to field a FFB team for Week #1 of the 2110 season when there's no National Football League. :scared: :tfp: :pics:
Frankly I don't think I will care what happens in the NFL in 2110, but you are correct. It will be very different next century. :rolleyes:
 
As to three teams drafting a siungle guy over multiple rounds: I believe that proposal is an effort to address certain limitations that are likely to surface during the re-negotiation of the collective bargsining agreement. One player being drafted (restricted) to negotiating with one team may become a thing of the past.
This has to be the most bizarre statement I've read on this message board in years.
I get a kick from Champaigne.. :hifive: ..and you guys.Anything that requires the slighest extension of imagination, brain power or any consideration of the possibility that the collective bargaining agreement's renogiation is going to have major implications for the game that you spend way to much time and energy on escapes you.

Imagine that the game's gonna change, Sucka....makes more sense?

Maybe we should retitle this thread to "Ways Comin' Bros" :suds: and see if we can strike up a conversation?

There is simply too much money at stake. :rolleyes: The manner in which the NFL's owners, and it's players, conduct business is defined.......untill it collapses. The nature of the NFL AS WE CURRENTLY KNOW IT is going to be subjected to some major change. :kicksrock:

:doh: :grad: It's going to be somewhat difficult to field a FFB team for Week #1 of the 2110 season when there's no National Football League. :scared: :tfp: :pics:
Frankly I don't think I will care what happens in the NFL in 2110, but you are correct. It will be very different next century. :rolleyes:
Wasn't there a commercial about this at one time? Limited gravity stadiums, rocket boosters on the shoes, metallic ball, and cheerleaders with Tranzistor-Z rocket boobs. :yes:
 
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There's no reason for the players to give up anything to change the draft in this way. The players just want their 60% of the revenue. The change doesn't benefit any of the current players. It doesn't help the owners either. I suppose this could be part of the owners legal strategy if the CBA expires and the players decertify the union in order to pursue an anti-trust case. It they're counting on this they should get better lawyers.

 
Insomniac said:
There's no reason for the players to give up anything to change the draft in this way. The players just want their 60% of the revenue. The change doesn't benefit any of the current players. It doesn't help the owners either. I suppose this could be part of the owners legal strategy if the CBA expires and the players decertify the union in order to pursue an anti-trust case. It they're counting on this they should get better lawyers.
The sand in the CBA hour glass runs out in 21 months.....let's see: it's 18 months till December of 2009, so add three months...that's about March of 2010.If there's no agreement, that's the deadline....strike or lock out type stuff. :lmao:

The sticking point (being money) indicates that Rookie Salaries are of prime importance to Goodell who's in favor of a Rookie Salary Cap. Upshaw resists that big time, indicating that vet's salaries are impacted by rookie salaries.

Net effect: the 2009 NFL Rookie Draft will be over populated by Juniors seeking to cash in. The odds of any significant proposal/agreement between the two sides coming into effect before the 2009 Rookie Draft is about zero to none.

The odds of rookie salaries/rookie draft rights issues changing before the 2010 Rookie draft are 100%.

:lmao:
 
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Ksquared said:
As to three teams drafting a siungle guy over multiple rounds: I believe that proposal is an effort to address certain limitations that are likely to surface during the re-negotiation of the collective bargsining agreement. One player being drafted (restricted) to negotiating with one team may become a thing of the past.
This has to be the most bizarre statement I've read on this message board in years.
I get a kick from Champaigne.. :hifive: ..and you guys.Anything that requires the slighest extension of imagination, brain power or any consideration of the possibility that the collective bargaining agreement's renogiation is going to have major implications for the game that you spend way to much time and energy on escapes you.

Imagine that the game's gonna change, Sucka....makes more sense?

Maybe we should retitle this thread to "Ways Comin' Bros" :suds: and see if we can strike up a conversation?

There is simply too much money at stake. :moneybag: The manner in which the NFL's owners, and it's players, conduct business is defined.......untill it collapses. The nature of the NFL AS WE CURRENTLY KNOW IT is going to be subjected to some major change. :lmao:

:doh: :grad: It's going to be somewhat difficult to field a FFB team for Week #1 of the 2110 season when there's no National Football League. :scared: :tfp: :pics:
Frankly I don't think I will care what happens in the NFL in 2110, but you are correct. It will be very different next century. :rolleyes:
Sorry for the typo...2010 works better.
 
"an individual player can e drafted a maximum of three times"

This doesn't make any sense to me. Sounds needlessly complicated, and for what?
Part of what the NFL faces in the renegotiation of the collective bargaining agreement is the continuing exemption that it currently enjoys in anti-trust type situations.Essentially, the NFL is now coming on record as saying that the rookie salary structure is "ludicrous", the Commish has made a point of mentioning that in the last several days.

When you ask for what, you may as well ask the question of when because everything that we now take for granted is going to be under the scrutiny of the owner's and the player's negotitating a new collective bargaining agreement.

The agreement that we take for granted....the one that enables our "sport" is about to undergo an upheaval that is going to make us look back and and say "...boy, those were the good old days."

As to three teams drafting a siungle guy over multiple rounds: I believe that proposal is an effort to address certain limitations that are likely to surface during the re-negotiation of the collective bargaining agreement. One player being drafted (restricted) to negotiating with one team may become a thing of the past.

Just because we think that we do business in a special place that's "allways the same" doesn't mean that we we are going to enjoy it that way in the future. There's some serious changes coming that are going to make what we do for fun and favor a lot different than it is now.

:lmao:
it seems to me that if three different teams draft one player it would just create a bidding war, and drive the price higher... how does this fix the rookie contract issue??imagine this last draft...

Jake long gets drafted by the falcons, dolphins, and niners (gotta throw them in there... im a homer what can i say). now we know all three of these teams, love this player, and they desperately need a franchise LT.

They are now going to try and outbid eachother for his effection (so to speak), and try to lure him to their team instead of the others...

i like the draft the way it is now, i go every year and have a blast... i say "leave the draft alone...."

:gang2:

BAM

 
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