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Over / Under before Marshall gets suspended (2 Viewers)
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yep
thehornet
Footballguy
i rest my case. A bunch of he said-she said, allegedly, supposedly, dropped charges. C'mon!Plus half these things happened in college. Everyone gets into trouble at college.
Hue G
Footballguy
Yeah, everyone gets in trouble and does stupid things in college but only the scum of th earth slap their girlfriend around and it doesn't matter if you're 15 years old, 21, or 50.
thehornet
Footballguy
ive already posted in antoher thread that nobody really knows what happened with his girlfriend. His GF and her 2 sisters accusations dont mean anything unless they are substantiated and/or Marshall is proven guilty in a court of law. Everything else is simply alleged rumors and allegations.
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Hue G
Footballguy
Oh yeah, just like how OJ is innocentI hate to break it to you but the only thing court proves is; 1 - who has a better lawyer (who has more money) 2 - can you prove it beyond a resonable doubt. Just because you can't prove something without reasonable doubt doesn't mean it didn't happen, I don't think too many people doubt he hit his girlfriend.
thehornet
Footballguy
you're comparing this to OJ? And honestly, i hate to break it to you, but you have no idea how the legal system works. You are exactly like most ignorant people. You read a few tidbits of news and think you know everything that happened that night when Marshall allegedly slapped his girlfriend. You assume he is guilty because of the preconceptions that you have. You would never even be allowed on a jury because you would fail to see the facts in front of you. Sorry you dont like the American Judicial system.
Move to France, Sailor.
Letum
Footballguy
So if the topic would have been "Should I trade Marshall while his value is high because of his off-field history and chance of future suspension?"Would that have been acceptable with everyone?Geez, every Marshall owner on this board is suddenly as character blind as Jerry Jones.Support JohnnyU here. Legit question. Same questions as T. and C. Henry and Pac.Anyone who says otherwise is ignoring history. 3 game suspension reduced to 1. What happens next time?
This is stupid. Why not start a poll for every player to get injured? You can not predict what will happen. where is the poll about Tank Johnson or anyone in the drug program?
This is nothing but a huge
trip
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
It's ironic that I started this thread (signed on as JU at home and Hoss at work) and less than 24 hours there's more news about Marshall's off the field problems. I can't believe people went as far as they did in their blasting of me for this thread. Marshall's off the field issues should be a great concern to fantasy owners.So if the topic would have been "Should I trade Marshall while his value is high because of his off-field history and chance of future suspension?"Would that have been acceptable with everyone?Geez, every Marshall owner on this board is suddenly as character blind as Jerry Jones.Support JohnnyU here. Legit question. Same questions as T. and C. Henry and Pac.Anyone who says otherwise is ignoring history. 3 game suspension reduced to 1. What happens next time?This is stupid. Why not start a poll for every player to get injured? You can not predict what will happen. where is the poll about Tank Johnson or anyone in the drug program?
thatguy
Footballguy
And every non-Marshall owner suddenly generalizes as much as someone prominent who generalizes a lot.So if the topic would have been "Should I trade Marshall while his value is high because of his off-field history and chance of future suspension?"Would that have been acceptable with everyone?Support JohnnyU here. Legit question. Same questions as T. and C. Henry and Pac.
Anyone who says otherwise is ignoring history. 3 game suspension reduced to 1. What happens next time?
This is nothing but a huge
Geez, every Marshall owner on this board is suddenly as character blind as Jerry Jones.
thehornet
Footballguy
ITS NOT NEWS!!!!It's ironic that I started this thread (signed on as JU at home and Hoss at work) and less than 24 hours there's more news about Marshall's off the field problems. I can't believe people went as far as they did in their blasting of me for this thread. Marshall's off the field issues should be a great concern to fantasy owners.So if the topic would have been "Should I trade Marshall while his value is high because of his off-field history and chance of future suspension?"Would that have been acceptable with everyone?Geez, every Marshall owner on this board is suddenly as character blind as Jerry Jones.Support JohnnyU here. Legit question. Same questions as T. and C. Henry and Pac.Anyone who says otherwise is ignoring history. 3 game suspension reduced to 1. What happens next time?
This is stupid. Why not start a poll for every player to get injured? You can not predict what will happen. where is the poll about Tank Johnson or anyone in the drug program?
thatguy
Footballguy
You sir must feel greatly vindicated! Except that nothing new has occurred, and anything new that has surfaced has been known all along by the league.It's ironic that I started this thread (signed on as JU at home and Hoss at work) and less than 24 hours there's more news about Marshall's off the field problems. I can't believe people went as far as they did in their blasting of me for this thread. Marshall's off the field issues should be a great concern to fantasy owners.So if the topic would have been "Should I trade Marshall while his value is high because of his off-field history and chance of future suspension?"Would that have been acceptable with everyone?Geez, every Marshall owner on this board is suddenly as character blind as Jerry Jones.Support JohnnyU here. Legit question. Same questions as T. and C. Henry and Pac.Anyone who says otherwise is ignoring history. 3 game suspension reduced to 1. What happens next time?
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
It's my understanding that charges are being made, whereas in the past it was unclear as to whether they would. Doesn't that make it new news? Even if it isn't, it is ironic this news was reported < 24 hrs after starting this thread.You sir must feel greatly vindicated! Except that nothing new has occurred, and anything new that has surfaced has been known all along by the league.It's ironic that I started this thread (signed on as JU at home and Hoss at work) and less than 24 hours there's more news about Marshall's off the field problems. I can't believe people went as far as they did in their blasting of me for this thread. Marshall's off the field issues should be a great concern to fantasy owners.So if the topic would have been "Should I trade Marshall while his value is high because of his off-field history and chance of future suspension?"Would that have been acceptable with everyone?Geez, every Marshall owner on this board is suddenly as character blind as Jerry Jones.Support JohnnyU here. Legit question. Same questions as T. and C. Henry and Pac.Anyone who says otherwise is ignoring history. 3 game suspension reduced to 1. What happens next time?
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
It is if charges are now being made and it wasn't clear that would ever happen.ITS NOT NEWS!!!!It's ironic that I started this thread (signed on as JU at home and Hoss at work) and less than 24 hours there's more news about Marshall's off the field problems. I can't believe people went as far as they did in their blasting of me for this thread. Marshall's off the field issues should be a great concern to fantasy owners.So if the topic would have been "Should I trade Marshall while his value is high because of his off-field history and chance of future suspension?"Would that have been acceptable with everyone?Geez, every Marshall owner on this board is suddenly as character blind as Jerry Jones.Support JohnnyU here. Legit question. Same questions as T. and C. Henry and Pac.Anyone who says otherwise is ignoring history. 3 game suspension reduced to 1. What happens next time?This is stupid. Why not start a poll for every player to get injured? You can not predict what will happen. where is the poll about Tank Johnson or anyone in the drug program?
Interseptopus
Footballguy
He's not as much of a headcase as C. Henry, Pacman... this guy screwed up in his first 3 years in the league. I think he's starting to turn it around... Sucks because I don't have him and would like to see him suspended.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
No, it isn't ironic. It's coincidental.It would have been ironic if you'd came on here and sarcastically posted "I believe Brandon Marshall has no chance of ever getting suspended this season! None!!" and then he got suspended this morning. Or the original post would be ironic at season's end if Marhsall doesn't miss any more time due to suspensions at all."This has been a public service announcement, brought to you by R.I.F, The Children's Television Workshop, and the Letter E. The more you know!" *Der-der-da-deeeeer! Bing!*
Yes, and soon we will be the #1 team in the power rankings as well.....MUUUHAHAHAHAHASo if the topic would have been "Should I trade Marshall while his value is high because of his off-field history and chance of future suspension?"Would that have been acceptable with everyone?Support JohnnyU here. Legit question. Same questions as T. and C. Henry and Pac.
Anyone who says otherwise is ignoring history. 3 game suspension reduced to 1. What happens next time?
This is stupid. Why not start a poll for every player to get injured? You can not predict what will happen. where is the poll about Tank Johnson or anyone in the drug program?
This is nothing but a huge
Geez, every Marshall owner on this board is suddenly as character blind as Jerry Jones.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
You're correct. Thanks for the clarification5-ish Finkle said:
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
One would have to assume that since these are new charges that it is possible he could be suspended again.
Even if the league new about the incident already, they would not have been able to take it into account when handing down a suspension.
Even if the league new about the incident already, they would not have been able to take it into account when handing down a suspension.
SSOG
Moderator
Sure, that's all he said/she said. Or, more accurately, it's he said/his QB, coach, positions coach, ex-girlfriend, and the police said. Clearly it's all circumstantial, and we should trust Brandon Marshall's word over that of his QB, coach, positions coach, ex-girlfriend, and the police. It's just his word against all of theirs.You wanna throw out the drama with his ex, that's one thing, because that mostly *IS* he said/she said (although the police do have such evidence as a split lip and witnesses of Marshall trapping his girlfriend in the driveway). You wanna call a major meltdown with his positions coach hearsay, then fine. You want to call Jay Cutler absolutely RIPPING him TO THE NATIONAL MEDIA just a his-word-against-mine situation, great. You want to call Shanahan RIPPING him TO THE NATIONAL MEDIA for malingering an argument open to interpretation, then awesome. You want to read that Marshall ASSAULTED A POLICE OFFICER and respond that everyone gets in trouble in college (as a matter of fact, they don't), then be my guest. You want to dismiss any one of these instances in a vacuum and I have no problem with it... but when you're trying to dismiss EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE INCIDENTS ALL AT ONCE, my credulity is stretched just a little thin.
Hue G
Footballguy
And you know exactly how the American Judicial System works? I've been sued 3 times so I have some idea. My best friend ran from the cops while he was driving drunk got out of his car and ran and was chased down by a police dog and caught hired a lawyer for $10K and only lost his license for a month, not even a DUI on his record, Felony fleeing was dropped. I know another guy who got pulled over blew a .009, lost his lisence for 6 months and had to spend 10 days in jail, do you think he could afford a lawyer at all? Same county, you can't tell me money doesn't have anything to do with it.
thehornet
Footballguy
Seems to me like his coach and QB like him a lot. Maybe they actually KNOW HIM on a personal level unlike every other person on this board and feel he can be turned around. People like to make lists about his screw ups and thats fine. Ill take him on my team. I dont think his defining moment in life is going to be a bad relationship and a drinking and driving charge at the old age of 23. Maybe you do. So be it. Time will tell.
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thehornet
Footballguy
you have sweet friends. Keep bragging about it.
Nope! Goodell has already proven as judge jury and executioner that he doesn't have to wait for a charge to be filed or a conviction before he hands out suspensions. Goodell already knew about this possible charge and that is part of what Marshall was already suspended for. Marshall will not face another suspension because of this news. http://www.kffl.com/player/13696/nfl
Bermuda_Chub
Footballguy
I don't know what you jokers have against Brandon Marshall. He and ADP are only the most exciting offensive players to arrive on the scene since Moss and Tomlinson. He was in a crappy relationship and he got pulled over after having a few too many. You know what -- that describes about 75% of the American male population. What's left over are the teetotalers, the celibate, and the irredeemably lame. You must be cut from the same cloth as the nimrods that cheered when Brady got injured b/c you didn't draft him. In my book, anything that makes the game less eye-popping should not be celebrated.
Hue G
Footballguy
And you have 0 friends that have DUI's? I know the one that ran from the cops did a stupid thing but he's a very successful business owner but he has had his problems with drinking, that being said he hasn't drank since and it's been almost 3 years, and the other guy I barley know through a family member. Thanks for asking though
I love the people that describe his problems as "college pranks". Not sure where they are from but when i was in college we didn't consider assaulting a police officer as a prank. Guess times have changed.
FavreCo
Footballguy
I have no idea what you are talking about (Marshall owner
) but I do know that non-marshall owners are jealous. Brandon Marshall!!!!!!! 
Mookie Blaylock
Footballguy
Don't kid yourself about Shannahan's and Cutler's humanitarian efforts to reform young Mr. Marshall. They wouldn't be doing this for someone who was 5'9" 165 who ran a 4.9 and had no hands. I agree with you but let's not get out of hand here. Unfortunately for Brandon until he stays out of the news for, I don't know, a couple of months, this is going to be his life. He's going to be tested and tempted and pressured and will not be given any slack in the process (unless of course you have him on your FF team). The most unfortunate thing, though, as far as Marshall is concerned is that Goodell has set a precedent and probably won't have a choice but to suspend him again if this Georgia thing is serious. I don't want the kid to get suspended if he doesn't deserve it, but I think the chances are pretty good that he does. I would plan accordingly.ETA: If you have him (redraft) this might be the best time to unload him. Just sayin...
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Yeah.......let me chew on this a bit.....every credible source says the NFL already knew about this possible outcome when Goodell reduced his suspension to 1 game and that worst case scenario is he would be suspended if and when he was convicted, which would be after this season. Hmmm........tough call, but I think instead of trading him I'll just ride him and JayC to the Super Bowl instead. Mmmkay?
Johnny Ice
Footballguy
Quite simply they passed on him in the draft so they root for his suspension.
Hue G
Footballguy
So now 75% of Americans hit their girlfriends/wives? Wow! disclaimer - I own Marshall in 2 of 4 leagues I'm in and the more I hear about this guy the less I like him
fatness
Footballguy
The charges were filed a week before you started your thread. That's the ironic part.
I'm glad you realized your mistake.
Bermuda_Chub
Footballguy
Yes, 75% of American men hit, spank or towel snap their girlfriends/wives.Obviously that's not what I'm saying. Justifying domestic violence is a fool's errand, but the hittee in this instance strikes me as Left Eye Lopez kinda crazy. By most accounts, Roger Goodell is a pretty sound judge of character, and his decision to lessen Marshall's suspension was probably based more on empathy than the Galahads in this thread are willing to allow.
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Fear & Loathing
Footballguy
I still don't understand why so many jumped down his throat for asking a pertinent question?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
There wasn't any news about Marshall until today, and most thought that was a bogus website. It was a freakish coincidence.
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FightingWombat
Guest
Please. Unless you have evidence that Ricky Williams is a thug like Pac-Man, Henry, or Marshall, can you try to refrain from lumping him in with those thugs.
SSOG
Moderator
Of all of the incidents, I'm most willing to throw everything stemming from his relationship out the window. It's pretty clear that that was a toxic relationship to both parties, and by all accounts, she was giving every bit as good as she got (if not better).I'm just saying that, even if you give Marshall the benefit of the doubt (as I'm perfectly willing to do) and throw all of that out the window entirely, you're still looking at DUI, assaulting an officer, accusations of malingering, a violent confrontation with a positions coach, and a call to grow up made by the starting QB through the national media. If that doesn't raise even the slightest red flag for you, then I don't know what will.Bermuda_Chub said:
identikit
Footballguy
I'm guessing that this all-star list of NFL players had the propensity to be suspended in common, not necessarily only because of the thug factor.If this is the case, Ricky qualifies.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Interesting. I'm not surprised this is their "official" stance. However, unless Marshall gets into further trouble, I believe he'll be looked upon favorably by Goodell. Maybe, possibly, another light suspension because of this. Not sure. Anyway, you can rest assured the NFL used due diligence in investigating Marshall's past transgressions. Judging by the light sentence handed down, Goodell has obviously determined Marshall is not your basic career criminal type. Marshall deserves the oppurtunity to prove him right.FightingWombat said:
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Football Jones
Footballguy
This following isn't directed at the OP. I've just noticed the various comments about Marshall in numerous threads as well as the injury thing I mention in this post.
I don't quite understand the venom towards Marshall. Do we not need to root for him? Shouldn't we root for him? The NFL needs Brandon Marshall...& it would be great if he could be the poster boy for a young life turned around. It seems to me a lot of people are actually hoping he gets into trouble again. I find that kind of disturbing. It's as bad as these jokers who wish injury upon players for no other reason than it might help their freaking FF teams. Are some people in this hobby really that evil? Pretty sad, IMO.
I don't quite understand the venom towards Marshall. Do we not need to root for him? Shouldn't we root for him? The NFL needs Brandon Marshall...& it would be great if he could be the poster boy for a young life turned around. It seems to me a lot of people are actually hoping he gets into trouble again. I find that kind of disturbing. It's as bad as these jokers who wish injury upon players for no other reason than it might help their freaking FF teams. Are some people in this hobby really that evil? Pretty sad, IMO.
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