tonystrong
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In your league, what has Colston been traded for since his injury? Or, what has the Colston owner been offered?
Did that. Wasn't on the first couple of pages. Also, I'd like to see some recent trades too. Want to see if value dropped or rised as the weeks go on. The owner in my league put him on the trading block so I was wondering what people were getting for him in other leagues.there was a pretty active thread about this the other week. if you do a quick search for colston you should turn it up. it might even just be a page or two back. lots of good info in it ...
He is out another 4 or 5 weeks? I thought they said 4 weeks originally, we should mean another 2 weeks.there was a pretty active thread about this the other week. if you do a quick search for colston you should turn it up. it might even just be a page or two back. lots of good info in it ...
Hmm. I might have taken that offer.i was offered Chester Taylor, Maroney, and David patten for Colston in a 12 team TD heavy dynasty. Chester would have cuffed ADP for me. i turned it down
I made a thread earlier in the week about how to find thousands of accepted trades, sorted by date, in tens of thousands of leagues. Search for threads I started, it'll be there.Did that. Wasn't on the first couple of pages. Also, I'd like to see some recent trades too. Want to see if value dropped or rised as the weeks go on. The owner in my league put him on the trading block so I was wondering what people were getting for him in other leagues.there was a pretty active thread about this the other week. if you do a quick search for colston you should turn it up. it might even just be a page or two back. lots of good info in it ...
This is a similar situation in my league. The team with which I am attemtp trading has ADP, QB Bulger(StL) as him starting QB, and his best WR is WR Jennings(GB) in a 3 WR start league. I offered him QB Edwards(Buf), who is #14 in our rankings and is higher than any available FA QB, RB C. Taylor(Min), and WR Royal(Den) for WR Colston(NO). He is struggling at 0-3, and I am 3-0 and can afford to wait on Colston. No word yet. This league has relatively few trades, and many teams are risk averse. I thought it was a fair offer.i was offered Chester Taylor, Maroney, and David patten for Colston in a 12 team TD heavy dynasty. Chester would have cuffed ADP for me. i turned it down
No way, thats nothing but roster fodder. Colston will be a top 5-8 WR during the 2nd half of the season. I cant imagine starting any of those other guys if your team is going to make a championship run.Hmm. I might have taken that offer.i was offered Chester Taylor, Maroney, and David patten for Colston in a 12 team TD heavy dynasty. Chester would have cuffed ADP for me. i turned it down
This is a much better offer, and the other guy would probably be wise to take it.This is a similar situation in my league. The team with which I am attemtp trading has ADP, QB Bulger(StL) as him starting QB, and his best WR is WR Jennings(GB) in a 3 WR start league. I offered him QB Edwards(Buf), who is #14 in our rankings and is higher than any available FA QB, RB C. Taylor(Min), and WR Royal(Den) for WR Colston(NO). He is struggling at 0-3, and I am 3-0 and can afford to wait on Colston. No word yet. This league has relatively few trades, and many teams are risk averse. I thought it was a fair offer.i was offered Chester Taylor, Maroney, and David patten for Colston in a 12 team TD heavy dynasty. Chester would have cuffed ADP for me. i turned it down
Wow, people are giving Colston away.Week 2
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Darren Sproles
Sammy Morris
Bryant Johnson
Isaac Bruce
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Marques Colston
Kevin Curtis
Rejected.mudshark said:Just offered KWarner for him. Waiting to hear back.
1. Nobody knows when he's coming back.2. Nobody knows how he'll play when he comes back.You want high end players for pure SPECULATION? Give me a break. The most I'd offer for Colston would be a current no.3 wide receiver who has upside (Ocho, Holmes, Edwards). But even for me to consider that I'd have to have pretty solid depth because it's likely that no.3 I give up was probably a bye week guy for me. You want me to give up a solid bye week guy for a player that might not return for another 4-5 weeks? I'm not sure where that gets me...Burning Sensation said:No way, thats nothing but roster fodder. Colston will be a top 5-8 WR during the 2nd half of the season. I cant imagine starting any of those other guys if your team is going to make a championship run.Moe Green said:Hmm. I might have taken that offer.immadimwitty said:i was offered Chester Taylor, Maroney, and David patten for Colston in a 12 team TD heavy dynasty. Chester would have cuffed ADP for me. i turned it down
No need to worry about weather or not to offer that, he would be a huge GUPPY to except that. This is not the 2007 Braylon Edwards were talking about.. Add a potential QB switch up and you should have taken the first offer....IMOI was just offered Colston and Javon Walker for Braylon Edwards....I rejected. Im considering offering him Edwards for Colston and Driver...not sure if i want that though...
With Shockey already gimped up, I'd think he'd have a chance to be even better moving forward. (Assuming the thumb is 100% with no setbacks.)IIRC it was 7 by FBGs going into week 1.
Yeah, similar to last year's second half production. We'll see, a lot of things have to go right before then.With Shockey already gimped up, I'd think he'd have a chance to be even better moving forward. (Assuming the thumb is 100% with no setbacks.)IIRC it was 7 by FBGs going into week 1.
That is all great, but give us some empirical proof that he might return even one week earlier. Because right now his bye has him so he only gets one game back, then off another week, so it would be week 9 or 10 before he can seriously impact a team. Some seasons are sewn up by then however he could be a great addition to a team that needs a boost.Colston's thumb injury is a very common one with virtually the same timetable in each instance (4-6 wks), yet the consensus about his prognosis is overwhelmingly negative here. Color me a rosy Colston owner, but I see a lotta chicken littles squawking about him as if the majority of his season is in jeopardy. Huh? If his injured thumb is really the great unknown some of you are making it out to be, why did doctors give Roscoe Parrish the exact same time frame? Or Drew Stanton. Or Bills TE Derek Fine. Or Angels SS Maicer Izturis. Or Adrian Beltre, who played the entire season with a torn ligament in his thumb. Or Brian Brohm for Louisville in his '06 season. David Givens had the same surgery in 2006 and missed four games only to tear his ACL his first game back. I've yet to find a case of a player with this injury missing extensive time beyond the initial prognosis. The thumb is obviously important to the duties of an NFL wide receiver, but Anthony Gonzalez dislocated his thumb with a partially torn ligament (iirc) last season in week 10. He was supposed to miss 3-4 weeks. He came back three weeks later. His post-injury game logs:6/1051/226/134/2TD7/86/1 TD2/22DNPColston's had the same injury before and he's familiar with the rehab routine. He will be fine.
Nobody knows when he is coming back? I do, 2-4 weeks.I also know when he comes back, he will play like Marques Colston, a top 5-8 WR. Guys like that win you championships, not part time players like Maroney, Chester Taylor, or Henderson.1. Nobody knows when he's coming back.2. Nobody knows how he'll play when he comes back.You want high end players for pure SPECULATION? Give me a break. The most I'd offer for Colston would be a current no.3 wide receiver who has upside (Ocho, Holmes, Edwards). But even for me to consider that I'd have to have pretty solid depth because it's likely that no.3 I give up was probably a bye week guy for me. You want me to give up a solid bye week guy for a player that might not return for another 4-5 weeks? I'm not sure where that gets me...Burning Sensation said:No way, thats nothing but roster fodder. Colston will be a top 5-8 WR during the 2nd half of the season. I cant imagine starting any of those other guys if your team is going to make a championship run.Moe Green said:Hmm. I might have taken that offer.immadimwitty said:i was offered Chester Taylor, Maroney, and David patten for Colston in a 12 team TD heavy dynasty. Chester would have cuffed ADP for me. i turned it down
Wow. Not sure what the other guy has at WR, but I'm sure he's thrilled with that trade. I take it you don't have a high opinion of Colston? Certainly a win for you in the short-term I suppose, but this deal certainly speaks to the varying opinions as to Colston's value ...carolina_21 said:I traded Colston away just this morning. The other owner is weak at QB and I have Cutler. I sent him Rodgers, Colston and Ward for TO and a Derek Anderson.My two WR are now Marshall and TO.
He's already got Cutler and now he has wr # 1 and # 2. I think it's a fair trade and probably a good one for both teams. It's not like he got chopped liver.......Wow. Not sure what the other guy has at WR, but I'm sure he's thrilled with that trade. I take it you don't have a high opinion of Colston? Certainly a win for you in the short-term I suppose, but this deal certainly speaks to the varying opinions as to Colston's value ...carolina_21 said:I traded Colston away just this morning. The other owner is weak at QB and I have Cutler. I sent him Rodgers, Colston and Ward for TO and a Derek Anderson.My two WR are now Marshall and TO.
The empirical proof is right there in the examples I gave. In the solid majority of cases I've found so far, the player returned after four or five weeks and not six, seven, or eight. Therefore, there's just as good a chance that Colston plays well before their bye in week 9. Four weeks from Sept 9 is October 7, which would put him in line to play week 6 against Oakland. That game would be almost five weeks from the date of his surgery. But let's say he doesn't play then but plays the following week instead in week 7. That's almost six weeks from the date of his surgery. But no, that's not possible to the skeptics here who insist he'll be out through the bye just because. Why would the Saints hold him out until week 10 if he's ready to play week 6 or 7? Now please give me some empirical proof of players with the same or similiar injury who were out longer than the six-week time frame.gregjcross said:That is all great, but give us some empirical proof that he might return even one week earlier. Because right now his bye has him so he only gets one game back, then off another week, so it would be week 9 or 10 before he can seriously impact a team. Some seasons are sewn up by then however he could be a great addition to a team that needs a boost.Lobary said:Colston's thumb injury is a very common one with virtually the same timetable in each instance (4-6 wks), yet the consensus about his prognosis is overwhelmingly negative here. Color me a rosy Colston owner, but I see a lotta chicken littles squawking about him as if the majority of his season is in jeopardy. Huh? If his injured thumb is really the great unknown some of you are making it out to be, why did doctors give Roscoe Parrish the exact same time frame? Or Drew Stanton. Or Bills TE Derek Fine. Or Angels SS Maicer Izturis. Or Adrian Beltre, who played the entire season with a torn ligament in his thumb. Or Brian Brohm for Louisville in his '06 season. David Givens had the same surgery in 2006 and missed four games only to tear his ACL his first game back. I've yet to find a case of a player with this injury missing extensive time beyond the initial prognosis. The thumb is obviously important to the duties of an NFL wide receiver, but Anthony Gonzalez dislocated his thumb with a partially torn ligament (iirc) last season in week 10. He was supposed to miss 3-4 weeks. He came back three weeks later. His post-injury game logs:6/1051/226/134/2TD7/86/1 TD2/22DNPColston's had the same injury before and he's familiar with the rehab routine. He will be fine.
He could very easily be back week 6. His bye is week 9.gregjcross said:That is all great, but give us some empirical proof that he might return even one week earlier. Because right now his bye has him so he only gets one game back, then off another week, so it would be week 9 or 10 before he can seriously impact a team. Some seasons are sewn up by then however he could be a great addition to a team that needs a boost.Lobary said:Colston's thumb injury is a very common one with virtually the same timetable in each instance (4-6 wks), yet the consensus about his prognosis is overwhelmingly negative here. Color me a rosy Colston owner, but I see a lotta chicken littles squawking about him as if the majority of his season is in jeopardy. Huh? If his injured thumb is really the great unknown some of you are making it out to be, why did doctors give Roscoe Parrish the exact same time frame? Or Drew Stanton. Or Bills TE Derek Fine. Or Angels SS Maicer Izturis. Or Adrian Beltre, who played the entire season with a torn ligament in his thumb. Or Brian Brohm for Louisville in his '06 season. David Givens had the same surgery in 2006 and missed four games only to tear his ACL his first game back. I've yet to find a case of a player with this injury missing extensive time beyond the initial prognosis. The thumb is obviously important to the duties of an NFL wide receiver, but Anthony Gonzalez dislocated his thumb with a partially torn ligament (iirc) last season in week 10. He was supposed to miss 3-4 weeks. He came back three weeks later. His post-injury game logs:6/1051/226/134/2TD7/86/1 TD2/22DNPColston's had the same injury before and he's familiar with the rehab routine. He will be fine.
I think you can do better than Holt IMO.I own colston and just got bit my the injury bug again. Westy and Parker. I am going to offer Colston for Holt straight up. not sure I can wait until week 6-7 and hope he has no lingering effects with the thumb