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I would love to see a list of 12 WR's you would prefer over AJ.bucsbaby said:In my leagues, I only get points for when my WRs actually catch the TDs, not when they obviously drop them
Not really, the situation he was in 03 - 07 the numbers he put up were very good, but 08 and 09 are different situations. His boost in value comes from the improved oline and QB play. He will be a consensus top 5 WR next year.Although that refutes one part of what I said, it only makes my other points stronger
I just finished watching my DVR of the Texans-Titans game. Not only is AJ getting plenty of looks as expected, Schaub threw it to him in the end zone five times against Tennessee. I expect him to turn those opportunities into big points.
Anyway, back to AJ's prospects. He has 24 targets in two games. The only player in the league who is averaging more than that is Brandon Marshall, IIRC, with 31 targets in his two games. He's getting his targets, so I'm concluding in the long haul he'll get his numbers. One bad game.
would love an update from someone who saw the game - this is unbelievable!
Constant double and triple coverage on AJ. Schaub tried to get it to him when possible but most of the time he wisely either found the single coverage on Walter and Daniels or he tucked it and ran when the pocket collapsed. This is just one of those games that every #1 receiver has. AJ screwed his owners out of a big day last week by dropping those TD passes, which makes today's stinker sting more. The opportunities just weren't there for him so Schaub took what the Jags were giving.
True #1 WRs find a way to get the ball - I'm starting to think AJ is way overated.
True, but every star wide receiver has these games. What did TO do last week? AJ was thrown to five times in the end zone last week but uncharacteristically failed to convert those chances into TD catches. Last week was on him. This week was on the Jags defensive scheme.
At least Moss lost his QB - AJ just doesn't look good....
Talk about overreacting. AJ was only thrown to seven times today, yet he made a key 21-yd catch near the end of regulation that put the Texans in game-tying FG range. If you think AJ isn't worth owning, I'd love to be in your league.I'll will be trying my best to buy him low this week from the AJ owner in mine.
I have them both. Thank God for Coles today.
when 2x and triple covered they just don't get the lucks with a smart qb.
Please with that " I wish I was in your league" He isnt a true stud WR. Thats the facts. He has had about a half a season of goods games in his career. The truth will be told in the next two to three weeks. I dont understand why people dont know when to cut their loses
ask the people who cut their losses on Ronnie Brown how they felt last week.
MarshallWayneTOBoldinFitzMegatronJenningsS MossR MossWelkerBoweHoushl coles (redraft)cotchery (redraft)lee evansholt (2nd half of season)colston (2nd half of season)those are the ones i can list with confidence. maybe some others with less confidenceI would love to see a list of 12 WR's you would prefer over AJ.In my leagues, I only get points for when my WRs actually catch the TDs, not when they obviously drop them
Timely response...MarshallWayneTOBoldinFitzMegatronJenningsS MossR MossWelkerBoweHoushl coles (redraft)cotchery (redraft)lee evansholt (2nd half of season)colston (2nd half of season)those are the ones i can list with confidence. maybe some others with less confidenceI would love to see a list of 12 WR's you would prefer over AJ.In my leagues, I only get points for when my WRs actually catch the TDs, not when they obviously drop them
Conversely, when Schaub threw for only 200 yards and one touchdown against Pittsburgh, and AJ hauled in 10 receptions for 112 yards, what was your excuse?You can pretend it's "excuse-making" to point out double and triple coverage that forces the quarterback to throw it to the TE or WR with single coverage, but I suspect most people here know better. Again, he was only targeted seven times. Last week he was targeted twelve times, five times in the fracking end zone, and he dropped passes he almost always makes. I won't make excuses for his performance last week. He played poorly. Today wasn't about AJ sucking, it was about the Jags defensive scheme.Schaub throws for 300+ yds and multiple TDs and AJ does squat. What's the excuse for him today?
MarshallWayneTOBoldinFitzMegatronJenningsS MossR MossWelkerBoweHoushl coles (redraft)cotchery (redraft)lee evansholt (2nd half of season)colston (2nd half of season)those are the ones i can list with confidence. maybe some others with less confidenceI would love to see a list of 12 WR's you would prefer over AJ.In my leagues, I only get points for when my WRs actually catch the TDs, not when they obviously drop them
OK
The best part about his post is that it took him three days to make that list.
Might as well package him with LT and hope to get Evans or Holt.
amidst the overreacting in this thread, this post makes the most sense about johnson.
.... or a reach-around
Overacting? AJ has failed to live up to his ADP his entire career. He's always drafted as a top 10-12 WR, yet is never a top 10-12 WR.Yes points per game this, bad QB that, injuries this, bad play calling that. It's his 6th year, he’s supposed to be one of the best 5-6 WRs in the NFL, and it’s time to show it. He disappears more then Casper. I always rag on AJ. I just don't understand how he's always drafted as a top 10 WR, yet has never been a top 10 WR. After 5 years? I know, I know lots of semi-valid excuses. I just don't believe in drafting guys at a spot, that they've never achieved. It's just bad business. And AJ has more of less proved that 5 years in a row. Maybe I'll miss out on year 6 (he's currently ranked 48), but that also means I missed out on his first 5 underwhelming years. I'll take that.
IIRC this was pretty much the anti-AJ argument (almost word for word) from one of the mods in the preseason. That's cool, because it's nice to get different viewpoints. Quite simply though, those of us that drafted him obviously believe the "per game", "post-Carr" stuff are something more than insignificant excuses, and 3 road games against 3 tough defenses (1 of which was a 100 yard game) probably isn't going to make a pre-season believer panic. Again, there's nothing wrong with hearing differing points of view but sheesh - I can't say I care enough to bother arguing about guys who are never on my team because I always think they're overvalued (eg Shockey).
Was he ever considered a top 10 WR in redrafts before this year?
Yeah that's a good point too. I could've sworn he went after the Anquan Boldins and Javon Walkers and Lee Evans' of the world last year.
I was extremely high on him going into last year, as i thought he was in for a breakout year with a QB other than Carr. I probably reached for him in my drafts taking him in the 4th/5th rounds, right around WR12-15. I would guess before that, he was around WR20 in the previous few years. Today was the only game that has me slightly concerned, and he may not be the top 3 WR i thought he would be this year, but he is still a top 10 WR to me right now.
You reached for AJ in the 5th round? Did you draft tonight? I guess I "reached" with MB at the first round turn, he didn't do aniything today.
Last year, as in 2007.
Forgive me. Didn't mean to intentionally disrupt the 2007 talk. Carry on.
I forgive you, just pay attention next time.
Let me know when we talk about 2008.
