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Gotta love the FBGs game logs...

In his career MJD has had 20 or more touches in seven games. In those seven games he:

Carried 142 times for 705 yards ~5ypc

Caught 24 passes for 245 yards ~10ypr

Scored nine TDs

Averaged almost exactly 25ppg (PPR)

Projected over a full season, you'd have...

320 carries for 1600 yards

56 catches for 560 yards

20 TDs

400 FFPts

Those totals are probably a bit inflated, but given that roughly 15 backs have logged 20+ touches per game in each of the last two years they aren't wildly overstated unless you think (for some strange reason) MJD's not going to be a bell cow back.

 
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Gotta love the FBGs game logs...In his career MJD has had 20 or more touches in seven games. In those seven games he:Carried 142 times for 705 yards ~5ypcCaught 24 passes for 245 yards ~10yprScored nine TDsAveraged almost exactly 25ppg (PPR)Projected over a full season, you'd have...320 carries for 1600 yards56 catches for 560 yards20 TDs400 FFPtsThose totals are probably a bit inflated, but given that roughly 15 backs have logged 20+ touches per game in each of the last two years they aren't wildly overstated unless you think (for some strange reason) MJD's not going to be a bell cow back.
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MOJO will go off this weekend.100 yards and two td's.
 
I actually expect GB to shut down Mojo....if they cannot stop the only weapon on that team with no Fred Taylor, Matt Jones and that banged up OL, Ted Thompson & MM should resign.

 
Sweetness_34 said:
I actually expect GB to shut down Mojo....if they cannot stop the only weapon on that team with no Fred Taylor, Matt Jones and that banged up OL, Ted Thompson & MM should resign.
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Agreed. I'm definitely starting MJD tomorrow and I love the guy's long-term prospects, but I'm not excpecting a coming out party here. I'd like his chances a heckuva lot better with Greg and Matt Jones on the field. I'm thinking 20-80-1 and 5-40 receiving. I really hope I'm wrong.
 
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Does Jax finally pull MJD off of kickoff returns now that he is the only real option at RB? Not too many teams let their #1 RB return kicks. I bet Jax keeps him out there since they feel it is one of their few options to move the ball.

 
Sweetness_34 said:
I actually expect GB to shut down Mojo....if they cannot stop the only weapon on that team with no Fred Taylor, Matt Jones and that banged up OL, Ted Thompson & MM should resign.
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Bob Sanders should have to pay for his own flight home and never allowed into the Packer complex.
 
I would love to see MJD go off today. But, I do have some reservations. The good thing is, that GB doesn't seem to cover RBs well out of the backfield (or stop the run)....so you would think he could be in line for a big day. My gut just tells me he's in for a letdown with all the hype he's getting this week.

 
Maybe I'm being spoiled here but it seemed like Del Rio could've gotten him the ball more in the second half. Indy mounts a comeback, Jacksonville needs to mount a clock killing drive and they had a, maybe 2 possessions where MJD didn't even get a touch.

Brilliant coaching. :moneybag:

 
houndirish said:
Maybe I'm being spoiled here but it seemed like Del Rio could've gotten him the ball more in the second half. Indy mounts a comeback, Jacksonville needs to mount a clock killing drive and they had a, maybe 2 possessions where MJD didn't even get a touch. Brilliant coaching. :moneybag:
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Maurice touched the ball or was targeted during every Jaguars possession.
 
I'm just hoping his injury isn't serious, if he could have been on the field for that final play he would have.

And yes, he may be an LT-like talent.

 
travdogg said:
I'm just hoping his injury isn't serious, if he could have been on the field for that final play he would have. And yes, he may be an LT-like talent.
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Rotoworld update:
According to Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio, the knee injury suffered by Maurice Jones-Drew late in Thursday's game is not serious."It feels like he got a little bruise, and that he’ll be OK," Del Rio said. "He’s walking around in there right now, so that was really good news." Jones-Drew had to be helped off by trainers, but it appears that he's avoided a serious knee injury. Dynasty owners can exhale.
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GB clearly is pathetic. Only player on the Jax O you need to worry about is MoJo and you let him get 2 TDs? Brilliant. Ted Thompson should be fired.....actually as a Bears fan, I hope they keep this hack up there. Refuses to trade for Randy Moss, Tony Gonzalez and cannot draft D worth a darn. Nice, very nice....

 
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And yes, he may be an LT-like talent.
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Sweet. Now we just need to get him an amazing offensive line and a Lorenzo Neal talent at FB and we've got Fantasty stud-dom! :goodposting:Honestly, I own this kid **EVERYWHERE**. I've made him a high priority on all of my teams, but I've come the realization that he's a lot like Steve Smith, at least for the moment. The talent is undeniable, but the situation causes some heartburn, and may continue to do so for a long while. Freddie T leaving will help, but its not the only domino that needs to fall for MJD to become elite.
 
PranksterJD said:
travdogg said:
And yes, he may be an LT-like talent.
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Sweet. Now we just need to get him an amazing offensive line and a Lorenzo Neal talent at FB and we've got Fantasty stud-dom! :goodposting: Honestly, I own this kid **EVERYWHERE**. I've made him a high priority on all of my teams, but I've come the realization that he's a lot like Steve Smith, at least for the moment. The talent is undeniable, but the situation causes some heartburn, and may continue to do so for a long while. Freddie T leaving will help, but its not the only domino that needs to fall for MJD to become elite.
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Its funny, I've kinda had that same comparative thought, not just with how valuable they are right now, but with similar paths as players, starting off as returners and they slowly surpassing established team veteransI kinda believe the o-line thing can/will take care of itself, once everyone is healthy next year it could very possibly get back to its 2007-quality.

 
MJD got me what i needed last night (although a TD would have been nice). Now i just need to sit back and hope for a blizzard in NE (opponent has Cassel and Boldin)

 
Not sure what other dominos you need to fall here. He's the #5 or #6 back in most of my leagues sharing time on a team with a marginal QB, no NFL-caliber WRs and behind an O-line that's in tatters.

And in the two weeks he's been 'the guy' he's still averaged 23 points per game.

 
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Not sure what other dominos you need to fall here. He's the #5 or #6 back in most of my leagues sharing time on a team with a marginal QB, no NFL-caliber WRs and behind an O-line that's in tatters.

And in the two weeks he's been 'the guy' he's still averaged 23 points per game.
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Those are the dominos. As good as he's been this year, he's only 2-3 "situational factors" away from being truly elite.
 
FantasyTrader said:
wdcrob said:
Not sure what other dominos you need to fall here. He's the #5 or #6 back in most of my leagues sharing time on a team with a marginal QB, no NFL-caliber WRs and behind an O-line that's in tatters.

And in the two weeks he's been 'the guy' he's still averaged 23 points per game.
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Those are the dominos. As good as he's been this year, he's only 2-3 "situational factors" away from being truly elite.
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Matt Jones did a pretty good job for them this year though I don't know how much the team wants to rely on him given his off field issues. It will be interesting to see if they make a play for a receiver like Housh if the Bengals don't tag him.
 
FantasyTrader said:
wdcrob said:
Not sure what other dominos you need to fall here. He's the #5 or #6 back in most of my leagues sharing time on a team with a marginal QB, no NFL-caliber WRs and behind an O-line that's in tatters.

And in the two weeks he's been 'the guy' he's still averaged 23 points per game.
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Those are the dominos. As good as he's been this year, he's only 2-3 "situational factors" away from being truly elite.
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Not everyone is in PPR leagues. He's not that high in those leagues and a headache if you had to deal with him every week.
 
Sweetness_34 said:
GB clearly is pathetic. Only player on the Jax O you need to worry about is MoJo and you let him get 2 TDs? Brilliant. Ted Thompson should be fired.....actually as a Bears fan, I hope they keep this hack up there. Refuses to trade for Randy Moss, Tony Gonzalez and cannot draft D worth a darn. Nice, very nice....
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Did I miss the part where TT does the play calling? And from what I've read he didn't "refuse" to trade for those guys, he didn't want to mortgage the team's future by overpaying for aging veterans. Were you claiming he couldn't draft D worth a darn last year when the D was healthy and was pretty good? They were 11th in total yards, and 6th in points against. You can't pin injuries on him (or anybody) unless you have video of him taking a bat to someone's kneecaps.I couldn't give 2 sharts about GB but I'm just calling it the way I see it as an objective 3rd party.That aside, I'm regretting not getting MJD in a trade last offseason while his value was low. He'll be impossible to pry away from anyone now. In redrafts next year I don't see why he won't be a 1st round pick in terms of ADP.
 
FantasyTrader said:
wdcrob said:
Not sure what other dominos you need to fall here. He's the #5 or #6 back in most of my leagues sharing time on a team with a marginal QB, no NFL-caliber WRs and behind an O-line that's in tatters.

And in the two weeks he's been 'the guy' he's still averaged 23 points per game.
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Those are the dominos. As good as he's been this year, he's only 2-3 "situational factors" away from being truly elite.
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40 TDs in 45 career games. Sounds pretty elite to me.If he gets a healthy O-line and a WR to keep defenses honest and no Fred T he might spontaneously combust.

 
Chaka said:
FantasyTrader said:
wdcrob said:
Not sure what other dominos you need to fall here. He's the #5 or #6 back in most of my leagues sharing time on a team with a marginal QB, no NFL-caliber WRs and behind an O-line that's in tatters.

And in the two weeks he's been 'the guy' he's still averaged 23 points per game.
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Those are the dominos. As good as he's been this year, he's only 2-3 "situational factors" away from being truly elite.
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40 TDs in 45 career games. Sounds pretty elite to me.If he gets a healthy O-line and a WR to keep defenses honest and no Fred T he might spontaneously combust.
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Nope. Not elite yet. Those TD's look great, but when you factor in the yardage (no 1,000 rushing year) it waters him down. I sure do agree with the bolded though.
 
As I've maintained and said many times, he and AP are the best backs in football and it isn't close IMO.

You can see what Hercules can do with an average QB,OL, and worthless receivers. Look at what a slightly lesser RB like Portis can do with

good run blocking . The best O line can take a much, much lesser RB like T.Jones and make him gold.

 
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Even if jags draft a young RB is there any way MJD isnt a top 3 pick next year?

I mean he just had a 23 point fantasy night WITHOUT getting in the endzone.

Just thinking that he had 4 carries inside the 5 and he coulda had a 40 point night!

 
Fear & Loathing said:
travdogg said:
I'm just hoping his injury isn't serious, if he could have been on the field for that final play he would have. And yes, he may be an LT-like talent.
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Rotoworld update:
According to Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio, the knee injury suffered by Maurice Jones-Drew late in Thursday's game is not serious."It feels like he got a little bruise, and that he’ll be OK," Del Rio said. "He’s walking around in there right now, so that was really good news." Jones-Drew had to be helped off by trainers, but it appears that he's avoided a serious knee injury. Dynasty owners can exhale.
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Best news I've heard all day.Thanks.
 
FantasyTrader said:
Chaka said:
FantasyTrader said:
wdcrob said:
Not sure what other dominos you need to fall here. He's the #5 or #6 back in most of my leagues sharing time on a team with a marginal QB, no NFL-caliber WRs and behind an O-line that's in tatters.

And in the two weeks he's been 'the guy' he's still averaged 23 points per game.
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Those are the dominos. As good as he's been this year, he's only 2-3 "situational factors" away from being truly elite.
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40 TDs in 45 career games. Sounds pretty elite to me.If he gets a healthy O-line and a WR to keep defenses honest and no Fred T he might spontaneously combust.
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Nope. Not elite yet. Those TD's look great, but when you factor in the yardage (no 1,000 rushing year) it waters him down. I sure do agree with the bolded though.
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In 3 seasons of shared duty he has almost 4k yards and 38 TDs and you are calling him out for no 1,000 yard rushing seasons in that time frame? He does have almost 2,500 yards with only 507 rushes, so it's not like he hasn't shown the ability, it's only opportunity he has lacked. In most scoring systems he's about to finish in the top 10 for RBs for the 3rd straight season, that's not elite? I'd love to see a list of the non-elite RBs that have been top 10 fantasy RBS over the last 3 seasons.edit: In our system besides MJD, only Westbrook is a lock to be top 10 for 3 straight. LT and Barber need to finish strong to do the same. Also, Marion Barber has never had a 1,000 yard rushing season. Is he not elite as well?

 
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Wadsworth said:
FantasyTrader said:
Chaka said:
FantasyTrader said:
wdcrob said:
Not sure what other dominos you need to fall here. He's the #5 or #6 back in most of my leagues sharing time on a team with a marginal QB, no NFL-caliber WRs and behind an O-line that's in tatters.

And in the two weeks he's been 'the guy' he's still averaged 23 points per game.
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Those are the dominos. As good as he's been this year, he's only 2-3 "situational factors" away from being truly elite.
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40 TDs in 45 career games. Sounds pretty elite to me.If he gets a healthy O-line and a WR to keep defenses honest and no Fred T he might spontaneously combust.
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Nope. Not elite yet. Those TD's look great, but when you factor in the yardage (no 1,000 rushing year) it waters him down. I sure do agree with the bolded though.
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In 3 seasons of shared duty he has almost 4k yards and 38 TDs and you are calling him out for no 1,000 yard rushing seasons in that time frame? He does have almost 2,500 yards with only 507 rushes, so it's not like he hasn't shown the ability, it's only opportunity he has lacked. In most scoring systems he's about to finish in the top 10 for RBs for the 3rd straight season, that's not elite? I'd love to see a list of the non-elite RBs that have been top 10 fantasy RBS over the last 3 seasons.edit: In our system besides MJD, only Westbrook is a lock to be top 10 for 3 straight. LT and Barber need to finish strong to do the same. Also, Marion Barber has never had a 1,000 yard rushing season. Is he not elite as well?
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Wait. I'm out of my comfort zone here. There's no bigger MJD lover than me on the planet. How the hell did I get stuck on this end of the argument? Look, I think we can all agree he has been phenomenal in the opportunities he's been given. All I'm saying is that there are factors at play that point to the fact that we haven't even seen how good he can be! Forget what he's done - that's not even the tip of the iceberg.
 
Wadsworth said:
FantasyTrader said:
Chaka said:
FantasyTrader said:
wdcrob said:
Not sure what other dominos you need to fall here. He's the #5 or #6 back in most of my leagues sharing time on a team with a marginal QB, no NFL-caliber WRs and behind an O-line that's in tatters.

And in the two weeks he's been 'the guy' he's still averaged 23 points per game.
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Those are the dominos. As good as he's been this year, he's only 2-3 "situational factors" away from being truly elite.
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40 TDs in 45 career games. Sounds pretty elite to me.If he gets a healthy O-line and a WR to keep defenses honest and no Fred T he might spontaneously combust.
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Nope. Not elite yet. Those TD's look great, but when you factor in the yardage (no 1,000 rushing year) it waters him down. I sure do agree with the bolded though.
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In 3 seasons of shared duty he has almost 4k yards and 38 TDs and you are calling him out for no 1,000 yard rushing seasons in that time frame? He does have almost 2,500 yards with only 507 rushes, so it's not like he hasn't shown the ability, it's only opportunity he has lacked. In most scoring systems he's about to finish in the top 10 for RBs for the 3rd straight season, that's not elite? I'd love to see a list of the non-elite RBs that have been top 10 fantasy RBS over the last 3 seasons.edit: In our system besides MJD, only Westbrook is a lock to be top 10 for 3 straight. LT and Barber need to finish strong to do the same. Also, Marion Barber has never had a 1,000 yard rushing season. Is he not elite as well?
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In the definition I was using above... no, he's not. What i meant earlier was elite as in LT, Marshall Faulk numbers. Crush-the-competition type production. Jones-Drew has THAT type of ability, but he needs a little help from the Jaguars to get there. Until then he remains that inconsistent runner that gets his numbers by the end of the year, though causes my team losses with the 4 point days as well ( Chad Ocho style ). As a result, regardless of his year-end numbers I consider him a low-end RB1 ( or hopefully an **exceptional** RB2 ).MJD's been great. But an abnormally large part of that is TDs, and as we saw with Thomas Jones last year, its a bad stat to rely on game after game, year after year. I want the yardage also :greedy: I mean... I drool over the thought of what this guy is capable or producing.

 
munchkin said:
Matt Jones did a pretty good job for them this year though I don't know how much the team wants to rely on him given his off field issues. It will be interesting to see if they make a play for a receiver like Housh if the Bengals don't tag him.
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I'm sure Shack Harris is working the phones right now trying to make a big trade for Javon Walker or Robert Meachem.
 
PranksterJD said:
Wadsworth said:
FantasyTrader said:
Chaka said:
FantasyTrader said:
wdcrob said:
Not sure what other dominos you need to fall here. He's the #5 or #6 back in most of my leagues sharing time on a team with a marginal QB, no NFL-caliber WRs and behind an O-line that's in tatters.

And in the two weeks he's been 'the guy' he's still averaged 23 points per game.
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Those are the dominos. As good as he's been this year, he's only 2-3 "situational factors" away from being truly elite.
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40 TDs in 45 career games. Sounds pretty elite to me.If he gets a healthy O-line and a WR to keep defenses honest and no Fred T he might spontaneously combust.
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Nope. Not elite yet. Those TD's look great, but when you factor in the yardage (no 1,000 rushing year) it waters him down. I sure do agree with the bolded though.
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In 3 seasons of shared duty he has almost 4k yards and 38 TDs and you are calling him out for no 1,000 yard rushing seasons in that time frame? He does have almost 2,500 yards with only 507 rushes, so it's not like he hasn't shown the ability, it's only opportunity he has lacked. In most scoring systems he's about to finish in the top 10 for RBs for the 3rd straight season, that's not elite? I'd love to see a list of the non-elite RBs that have been top 10 fantasy RBS over the last 3 seasons.edit: In our system besides MJD, only Westbrook is a lock to be top 10 for 3 straight. LT and Barber need to finish strong to do the same. Also, Marion Barber has never had a 1,000 yard rushing season. Is he not elite as well?
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In the definition I was using above... no, he's not. What i meant earlier was elite as in LT, Marshall Faulk numbers. Crush-the-competition type production. Jones-Drew has THAT type of ability, but he needs a little help from the Jaguars to get there. Until then he remains that inconsistent runner that gets his numbers by the end of the year, though causes my team losses with the 4 point days as well ( Chad Ocho style ). As a result, regardless of his year-end numbers I consider him a low-end RB1 ( or hopefully an **exceptional** RB2 ).MJD's been great. But an abnormally large part of that is TDs, and as we saw with Thomas Jones last year, its a bad stat to rely on game after game, year after year. I want the yardage also :greedy: I mean... I drool over the thought of what this guy is capable or producing.
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:lmao: There we go. That's all I was trying to say - Prankster was just much more articulate.
 
Pots said:
FantasyTrader said:
wdcrob said:
Not sure what other dominos you need to fall here. He's the #5 or #6 back in most of my leagues sharing time on a team with a marginal QB, no NFL-caliber WRs and behind an O-line that's in tatters.

And in the two weeks he's been 'the guy' he's still averaged 23 points per game.
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Those are the dominos. As good as he's been this year, he's only 2-3 "situational factors" away from being truly elite.
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Not everyone is in PPR leagues. He's not that high in those leagues and a headache if you had to deal with him every week.
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He's RB8 in my standard scoring league (prior to last night - he's now RB6). I gladly took that headache over the numerous players that finished below him. There really haven't been any every week stud producers from the RB slot this year.
 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
munchkin said:
Matt Jones did a pretty good job for them this year though I don't know how much the team wants to rely on him given his off field issues. It will be interesting to see if they make a play for a receiver like Housh if the Bengals don't tag him.
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I'm sure Shack Harris is working the phones right now trying to make a big trade for Javon Walker or Robert Meachem.
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:no: God, I can so see this happening.
 
FantasyTrader said:
Chaka said:
FantasyTrader said:
wdcrob said:
Not sure what other dominos you need to fall here. He's the #5 or #6 back in most of my leagues sharing time on a team with a marginal QB, no NFL-caliber WRs and behind an O-line that's in tatters.

And in the two weeks he's been 'the guy' he's still averaged 23 points per game.
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Those are the dominos. As good as he's been this year, he's only 2-3 "situational factors" away from being truly elite.
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40 TDs in 45 career games. Sounds pretty elite to me.If he gets a healthy O-line and a WR to keep defenses honest and no Fred T he might spontaneously combust.
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Nope. Not elite yet. Those TD's look great, but when you factor in the yardage (no 1,000 rushing year) it waters him down. I sure do agree with the bolded though.
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Clearly we are splitting hairs. MJD finished my league as the #7RB in 2006 & 2007 and is on pace for a similar finish this season.I don't know how you define it but that is pretty much the definition of elite in my book.

 
Not that there was really any doubt left, but...

Coach Jack Del Rio wasn't surprised that Drew was so effective in a full-time role."I never doubt that [he could carry the load]," Del Rio said. "That's never been a question for me."
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I'm in a league that is both receiving heavy and counts return yards.

In this format, MJD finished #4 in each of the last two years and is currently sitting at #1. Forte will reclaim #1 with a good game tonight, though.

But three straight years in the top 4 is pretty freaking elite to me. He isn't your conventional fantasy stud RB and in non-PPR scoring, he takes a hit, but now that he's the go-to guy, I expect a lot more consistancy with the same big game potentional. If that's not elite, I don't know what is.

For some reason, even in our format, I was the only guy really high on MJD in this league for the last two years. I drafted him last year in what was supposed to be an initial dynasty year. We then reformatted the league and reformed the teams with an auction. I landed him in the auction as well. Last year won it all and this year lost in the semifinals. MJD was a huge reason for my success in both years.

 
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