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Terrell Owens-WR- Cowboys Feb. 10 - 7:15 pm et

In a live chat Tuesday, Raiders beat writer Steve Corkran added fuel to the rumor that Oakland is a possible landing spot for Terrell Owens.

The speculation is rooted in a National Football Post item from Tuesday morning. "Of course it's a possibility," Corkran wrote. "Terrell Owens has Raider written all over him, and Al Davis is the kind of owner who would allow Owens to be the person he is as long as he produces in games."

Source: Contra Costa Times

Related: Raiders

Terrell Owens-WR- Cowboys Feb. 10 - 1:32 pm et

The National Football Post's Mike Lombardi believes it's only become a matter of time before Terrell Owens is an ex-Cowboy.

The list of reporters who don't believe T.O. will be back: Lombardi, SI's Peter King, FOXSports' Jay Glazer, NFL Network's Adam Schefter, and ESPN's Ed Werder. Lombardi doesn't necessarily expect Owens to be cut, however, and suggests a trade to Oakland. T.O. probably wouldn't cost Al Davis more than a third-round pick and the Raiders are desperate for wideouts.

Source: National Football Post

Related: Raiders

 
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This would be great for Russell. TO has always gotten along really well with his QBs and I am sure he will be an effective mentor to Russell. Plus, this should make OAK a serious Super Bowl contender. I can definitely see why OAK would want to do this.

 
FavreCo said:
owens as a raider would be hilarious.
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This is a game of give and take; the Raiders give away Moss for a fourth and get taken for TO with a third. The Chinese may have discovered fireworks but the Riders really know how to keep us entertained; this will be better than the Esplanade on the Fourth!!
 
Not Sure said:
This would be great for Russell. TO has always gotten along really well with his QBs and I am sure he will be an effective mentor to Russell. Plus, this should make OAK a serious Super Bowl contender. I can definitely see why OAK would want to do this.
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Plus, TO really wants to win a Super Bowl, so it's a win-win-win situation.
 
:confused:

I guess I'm in the minority as a Russell owner liking the prospect of him having a legitimate stud WR to throw to.

Was/is TO generally a detriment to his team? Pretty much, but not in the 1st year on a new team. He waits.

Was/is TO generally a detriment to his QB's fantasy stats? Not exactly. I'd say his QB's have put up pretty good stats with him.

Garcia 1999: 15ppg (first year as starter)

Garcia 2000: 26ppg

Garcia 2001: 23ppg

Garcia 2002: 19ppg

Garcia 2003: 21ppg

McNabb 2004: 23ppg

McNabb 2005: 22ppg

Romo 2006: 18ppg (first year as starter)

Romo 2007: 23ppg

Romo 2008: 21ppg

Russell 2009: ?? (had 13ppg in 2008, first real year as starter)

I think Russell will naturally improve regardless if TO is there, but if he goes there I can easily see 20ppg out of Russell this year.

 
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
 
{Syrus} said:
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
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I'm not a TO hater, but to say he has Heart is nonsense. TO is probably the most dangerous WR WITH the ball in his hands. Unfortunately, he's slow off the line, he has pretty average hands, and shys away from contact.He's soft. Go to youtube and do a search for Sean Taylor and TO.
 
{Syrus} said:
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
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Was "Butt munch" really necessary?I like Owens as well (Moreso then most)However the 3rd rounder is worth way more and any smart GM would take it.
 
SR388 said:
{Syrus} said:
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
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I'm not a TO hater, but to say he has Heart is nonsense. TO is probably the most dangerous WR WITH the ball in his hands. Unfortunately, he's slow off the line, he has pretty average hands, and shys away from contact.He's soft. Go to youtube and do a search for Sean Taylor and TO.
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Not sure what being slow and having average hands has to do with heart. I'll agree that he is soft in comparison to some other WR's, but I wouldn't go out of my way to call any NFL player soft as I type here from my comfy non-contact day job.
 
I honestly don't think this is a terrible deal for Oakland. JaMarcus Russell needs someone to throw to if he is going to progress as a QB. Is TO likely just a stopgap until they get a younger player to replace him? Sure. But if you look at the successful rookie QBs from this season (Ryan and Flacco), both had solid supporting casts that took some of the pressure off of them. If the Raiders want Russell to progress. they would be wise acquire a couple solid players who, even if only temporary, can give him a fair opportunity to experience success and hopefully build his confidence as a QB.

 
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puckalicious said:
SR388 said:
{Syrus} said:
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
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I'm not a TO hater, but to say he has Heart is nonsense. TO is probably the most dangerous WR WITH the ball in his hands. Unfortunately, he's slow off the line, he has pretty average hands, and shys away from contact.He's soft. Go to youtube and do a search for Sean Taylor and TO.
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Not sure what being slow and having average hands has to do with heart. I'll agree that he is soft in comparison to some other WR's, but I wouldn't go out of my way to call any NFL player soft as I type here from my comfy non-contact day job.
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This would be a truly tremendous and pithy point were the proper basis for comparison for any given NFL player's toughness internet message board users. Because in fact the appropriate basis for comparison is other NFL players, your point gets us nowhere.
 
As a Raider fan I hope they could get him for a 2nd day pick, but I think it could really be a good move for Russell. Maybe I'm in the minority, but that's how I feel right now.

 
T Bell said:
puckalicious said:
SR388 said:
{Syrus} said:
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
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I'm not a TO hater, but to say he has Heart is nonsense. TO is probably the most dangerous WR WITH the ball in his hands. Unfortunately, he's slow off the line, he has pretty average hands, and shys away from contact.He's soft. Go to youtube and do a search for Sean Taylor and TO.
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Not sure what being slow and having average hands has to do with heart. I'll agree that he is soft in comparison to some other WR's, but I wouldn't go out of my way to call any NFL player soft as I type here from my comfy non-contact day job.
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This would be a truly tremendous and pithy point were the proper basis for comparison for any given NFL player's toughness internet message board users. Because in fact the appropriate basis for comparison is other NFL players, your point gets us nowhere.
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Um, did I not do that? Not sure why you singled out my snarky aside as if it were my intended conclusion.
 
SR388 said:
{Syrus} said:
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
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I'm not a TO hater, but to say he has Heart is nonsense. TO is probably the most dangerous WR WITH the ball in his hands. Unfortunately, he's slow off the line, he has pretty average hands, and shys away from contact.He's soft. Go to youtube and do a search for Sean Taylor and TO.
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TO is the guy who played in a Superbowl with a healing broken leg against all doctors recommendations. Don't tell me he doesn't have heart. The guys wants to win badly...he's also vocal. get over it. Football isn't a game for pansies.
 
There is a clear downside for NFL fans. We'd watch OAK get killed on primetime TV 5 times instead of 1 or 2 times because networks bosses would want to put the train wreck Owens on TV as much as possible.

 
It's a smart deal for Oakland because there really isn't much available in FA at WR position and drafting a rookie WR is risky and they take time to develop. Russell can only improve as a result and the offense will be better as they had no passing weapons AT ALL. TO complains and whines but only when he doesn't get the ball--there is NO ONE ELSE to throw to besides the TE, so he will get more than enough looks to keep him happy.

 
{Syrus} said:
SR388 said:
{Syrus} said:
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
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I'm not a TO hater, but to say he has Heart is nonsense. TO is probably the most dangerous WR WITH the ball in his hands. Unfortunately, he's slow off the line, he has pretty average hands, and shys away from contact.He's soft. Go to youtube and do a search for Sean Taylor and TO.
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TO is the guy who played in a Superbowl with a healing broken leg against all doctors recommendations. Don't tell me he doesn't have heart. The guys wants to win badly...he's also vocal. get over it. Football isn't a game for pansies.
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I agree ... i want to keep TO.Most his minor issues are blown up by the media and BSPN.The 2009 season was in no way Owens' fault.
 
puckalicious said:
T Bell said:
puckalicious said:
SR388 said:
{Syrus} said:
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
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I'm not a TO hater, but to say he has Heart is nonsense. TO is probably the most dangerous WR WITH the ball in his hands. Unfortunately, he's slow off the line, he has pretty average hands, and shys away from contact.He's soft. Go to youtube and do a search for Sean Taylor and TO.
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Not sure what being slow and having average hands has to do with heart. I'll agree that he is soft in comparison to some other WR's, but I wouldn't go out of my way to call any NFL player soft as I type here from my comfy non-contact day job.
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This would be a truly tremendous and pithy point were the proper basis for comparison for any given NFL player's toughness internet message board users. Because in fact the appropriate basis for comparison is other NFL players, your point gets us nowhere.
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Um, did I not do that? Not sure why you singled out my snarky aside as if it were my intended conclusion.
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Your "snarky aside" was in fact your point; it was your reference to other NFL players that was the aside.
 
Wu-banger said:
{Syrus} said:
SR388 said:
{Syrus} said:
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
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I'm not a TO hater, but to say he has Heart is nonsense. TO is probably the most dangerous WR WITH the ball in his hands. Unfortunately, he's slow off the line, he has pretty average hands, and shys away from contact.He's soft. Go to youtube and do a search for Sean Taylor and TO.
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TO is the guy who played in a Superbowl with a healing broken leg against all doctors recommendations. Don't tell me he doesn't have heart. The guys wants to win badly...he's also vocal. get over it. Football isn't a game for pansies.
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I agree ... i want to keep TO.Most his minor issues are blown up by the media and BSPN.

The 2009 season was in no way Owens' fault.
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Really? Yeah, the guys in CT really have it in for him. I'm sure he's just a harmless can of gasoline minding his own business and Ed Werder just happened to have a match... :goodposting:
 
Wu-banger said:
{Syrus} said:
SR388 said:
{Syrus} said:
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
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I'm not a TO hater, but to say he has Heart is nonsense. TO is probably the most dangerous WR WITH the ball in his hands. Unfortunately, he's slow off the line, he has pretty average hands, and shys away from contact.He's soft. Go to youtube and do a search for Sean Taylor and TO.
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TO is the guy who played in a Superbowl with a healing broken leg against all doctors recommendations. Don't tell me he doesn't have heart. The guys wants to win badly...he's also vocal. get over it. Football isn't a game for pansies.
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I agree ... i want to keep TO.Most his minor issues are blown up by the media and BSPN.The 2009 season was in no way Owens' fault.
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:mellow: I've been wanting to post something like this but I get involved in too many discussions with T.O. haters. ( I can't believe someone actually accused him of being slow!)If Garrett and Romo get a third year to prove themselves I think it only makes sense that they keep their best weapon around too. IMOeta: Love the name Wu Banger
 
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{Syrus} said:
SR388 said:
{Syrus} said:
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
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I'm not a TO hater, but to say he has Heart is nonsense. TO is probably the most dangerous WR WITH the ball in his hands. Unfortunately, he's slow off the line, he has pretty average hands, and shys away from contact.He's soft. Go to youtube and do a search for Sean Taylor and TO.
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TO is the guy who played in a Superbowl with a healing broken leg against all doctors recommendations. Don't tell me he doesn't have heart. The guys wants to win badly...he's also vocal. get over it. Football isn't a game for pansies.
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"Vocal" sounds so harmless, doesn't it? Hey, this guy is "outspoken"! Sounds pretty good. "Speaks his mind", I like that too.Thing is, a guy can become a major distraction to his team by being a doosh. And TO is, without question, a doosh.
 
Acxtually it would be good for everyone involved.

Dallas would get rid of a cancer and Romo can growinto being the team leader without worrying about Owens tantrums.

The Raiders woulds make Owen the focal point of their passing attack giving him 10+ targets a game. Russell is bigger than Owens and probably could kick his #### if needed.

It is a win..win.

 
Da Guru said:
Acxtually it would be good for everyone involved.

Dallas would get rid of a cancer and Romo can growinto being the team leader without worrying about Owens tantrums.

The Raiders woulds make Owen the focal point of their passing attack giving him 10+ targets a game. Russell is bigger than Owens and probably could kick his #### if needed.

It is a win..win.
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Where would these wins come from, exactly? :rolleyes:
 
T Bell said:
Da Guru said:
Acxtually it would be good for everyone involved.

Dallas would get rid of a cancer and Romo can growinto being the team leader without worrying about Owens tantrums.

The Raiders woulds make Owen the focal point of their passing attack giving him 10+ targets a game. Russell is bigger than Owens and probably could kick his #### if needed.

It is a win..win.
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Where would these wins come from, exactly? :thumbup:
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The Cowboys would win in getting rid of the circus that Owens brings to town..Owens would win because he would be "the guy" and the Raiders would...well the Raiders would probably still lose.
 
As a Dallas fan, I love TO and I want them to keep him. If I were a Raiders fan, I would love to have this trade happen. That team is a piece or three away from being dangerous, and TO would make them legit on offense.

 
Tacticalone said:
Wu-banger said:
{Syrus} said:
SR388 said:
{Syrus} said:
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
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I'm not a TO hater, but to say he has Heart is nonsense. TO is probably the most dangerous WR WITH the ball in his hands. Unfortunately, he's slow off the line, he has pretty average hands, and shys away from contact.He's soft. Go to youtube and do a search for Sean Taylor and TO.
Click to expand...
TO is the guy who played in a Superbowl with a healing broken leg against all doctors recommendations. Don't tell me he doesn't have heart. The guys wants to win badly...he's also vocal. get over it. Football isn't a game for pansies.
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I agree ... i want to keep TO.Most his minor issues are blown up by the media and BSPN.

The 2009 season was in no way Owens' fault.
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:goodposting: I've been wanting to post something like this but I get involved in too many discussions with T.O. haters. ( I can't believe someone actually accused him of being slow!)

If Garrett and Romo get a third year to prove themselves I think it only makes sense that they keep their best weapon around too.

IMO

eta: Love the name Wu Banger
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I don't think they are considering trading Witten.
 
{Syrus} said:
SR388 said:
{Syrus} said:
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
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I'm not a TO hater, but to say he has Heart is nonsense. TO is probably the most dangerous WR WITH the ball in his hands. Unfortunately, he's slow off the line, he has pretty average hands, and shys away from contact.He's soft. Go to youtube and do a search for Sean Taylor and TO.
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TO is the guy who played in a Superbowl with a healing broken leg against all doctors recommendations. Don't tell me he doesn't have heart. The guys wants to win badly...he's also vocal. get over it. Football isn't a game for pansies.
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But the bottom line is that TO is not a winner!
 
It may be tough to pass on Crabtree if he's there but there are OL available in the 2nd per our mock. That said, if you take Owens and then draft Oher or Jason Smith I think the Raiders are in better shape overall.

6. Cincinnati - Kirby: Michael Oher, OT - Mississippi

7. Oakland - massraider: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech

8. Jacksonville - Wadsworth: Jason Smith, Offensive Tackle, Baylor

At this point anything's possible and this does make sense from both sides.

 
From the Cowboys standpoint I think the problem with TO besides being slow off the line, avoiding contact, dropping passes, attitude, not going across the middle, and possibly losing a step is that Roy Williams is best in that same intermediate to deep threat role. IF Austin can fill that role then I'd be fine with Roy and Austin but I suspect they'll need to bring in another WR. With the extra 3rd, the cost on defense of replacing TO with another WR in free agency or the draft is somewhat offset. I think part of the reason Witten was so heavily used is that neither Roy or TO can run those routes effectively.

 
I'm going to go outside the box and think TO signs for less money to play with a quarterback who can throw the ball accurately on a team that can win. This will be an attempt to salvage his reputation. I'm thinking NE, Indy, NO, SD, AZ (if Warner stays and Boldin goes), and maybe Denver.

 
The Great Snook said:
I'm going to go outside the box and think TO signs for less money to play with a quarterback who can throw the ball accurately on a team that can win. This will be an attempt to salvage his reputation. I'm thinking NE, Indy, NO, SD, AZ (if Warner stays and Boldin goes), and maybe Denver.
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TO costs the Cowboys more to cut than to keep ... I don't think they let him walk unless there's a trade.
 
Phurfur said:
{Syrus} said:
SR388 said:
{Syrus} said:
Bankerguy said:
On behalf of all Cowboy fans, we would do that in a heartbeat. They would be lucky to get a 6th for him.
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Speak for yourself butt munch. I am one Cowboys fan that wants to keep Owens. The guy is a gamer and shows heart. So he's a little outspoken, sack up fellas this is football.
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I'm not a TO hater, but to say he has Heart is nonsense. TO is probably the most dangerous WR WITH the ball in his hands. Unfortunately, he's slow off the line, he has pretty average hands, and shys away from contact.He's soft. Go to youtube and do a search for Sean Taylor and TO.
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TO is the guy who played in a Superbowl with a healing broken leg against all doctors recommendations. Don't tell me he doesn't have heart. The guys wants to win badly...he's also vocal. get over it. Football isn't a game for pansies.
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But the bottom line is that TO is not a winner!
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Maybe so or maybe not but the one thing we know is that Owens WANTS to be a winner and that means he will go to a team that is a contender is Dallas releases him and will want a trade to a contender. This make you have to ask... will Dallas want to give another contender a weapon like Owens?
 
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