werdnoynek
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Doofus. He was primed for a big year... hopefully it's a wake up call for him.
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MoveToSkypager
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This isn't necessarily cause to give up because in general we all know that college coaches like to suspend kids when it doesn't matter (like now) and re-instate them when it does, like August. Let's say he's suspended for a full year though, then he wants to declare for the draft. Besides BMW, has any other WR made an NFL roster after taking a year off?
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ILUVBEER99
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it's kind of odd he's used as an example of a guy who's turned it around. he was just suspended last season.
ConnSKINS26
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DGB is still more name than game at this point, on top of all this.
identikit
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Xue
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Josh Gordon had to redshirt after transferring to Utah, per NCAA transfer rules.
Dez Bryant played the first 3 games his Junior season and then was suspended for the rest of the season.
B. Nugget
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This wasn't weed and the newest rumors I've heard (from pretty decent sources) are that it was an argument between him and his girlfriend that escalated with her pushing him out of her apartment and lots of yelling/screaming and someone called the cops.
She doesn't want to press charges because he supposedly didn't hit her, which was the first rumor (along with news that he had been arrested) that was incorrectly tweeted out by TJ Carpenter at 810 in KC. The newest tidbit was that the Beckham's have lawyered up and are playing for keeps, so we'll see how it goes, but I'm guessing this is his last chance as a Tiger regardless because he can't keep himself out of bad situations and Pinkel is about ready to cut ties.
The one thing that is in DGB's favor is that witnesses saw him speed away in his car while she was beating on it...
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/a/173302/update-missouri-wide-receiver-dorial-green-beckham-suspended-indefinitely/
She doesn't want to press charges because he supposedly didn't hit her, which was the first rumor (along with news that he had been arrested) that was incorrectly tweeted out by TJ Carpenter at 810 in KC. The newest tidbit was that the Beckham's have lawyered up and are playing for keeps, so we'll see how it goes, but I'm guessing this is his last chance as a Tiger regardless because he can't keep himself out of bad situations and Pinkel is about ready to cut ties.
The one thing that is in DGB's favor is that witnesses saw him speed away in his car while she was beating on it...
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/a/173302/update-missouri-wide-receiver-dorial-green-beckham-suspended-indefinitely/
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cstu
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He easily could have had 5 TD's against Kentucky instead of 4.Sinrman said:
The only receivers to have big games against Auburn last year were Evans, Moncrief, Cooper, Landry and DGB.
It's fair to say he hasn't lived up to expectations, but if he were in this draft who would you rather have after Watkins and Evans?
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You can pick out 3-4 games where he did well. I'm not sure that's the best way to look at his stats.He easily could have had 5 TD's against Kentucky instead of 4.Sinrman said:
The only receivers to have big games against Auburn last year were Evans, Moncrief, Cooper, Landry and DGB.
It's fair to say he hasn't lived up to expectations, but if he were in this draft who would you rather have after Watkins and Evans?
On the balance, his season was just pretty good. Not great. Okay yardage. Nice TD total. Still very inconsistent.
I think he has a pretty high ceiling as a tall target with deep speed and some agility. However, he's not really all that bulky or strong and still seems like a bit of a one-trick pony (or maybe a two-trick pony as a deep threat who can also win jump balls in the red zone).
This is a deep WR class and if he were eligible I don't think he'd be higher than 6th-7th on my list.
Maybe with a big season in 2014 he'll look like a lock first rounder. Two years into his college career, he's still been more of a tease than a consistent dominator.
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werdnoynek
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He had a lot of hype to live up to his freshmen year and really didn't show much of anything. The amount of improvement he showed from freshman to sophmore year was a big step... but still not quite up to the hype. I can see how someone could be underwhelmed, however, I think his talent and potential is undeniable and definitely not something to roll ones eyes at.You can pick out 3-4 games where he did well. I'm not sure that's the best way to look at his stats.He easily could have had 5 TD's against Kentucky instead of 4.Sinrman said:
The only receivers to have big games against Auburn last year were Evans, Moncrief, Cooper, Landry and DGB.
It's fair to say he hasn't lived up to expectations, but if he were in this draft who would you rather have after Watkins and Evans?
On the balance, his season was just pretty good. Not great. Okay yardage. Nice TD total. Still very inconsistent.
I think he has a pretty high ceiling as a tall target with deep speed and some agility. However, he's not really all that bulky or strong and still seems like a bit of a one-tricky pony (or maybe a two-trick pony as a deep threat who can also win jump balls in the red zone).
This is a deep WR class and if he were eligible I don't think he'd be higher than 6th-7th on my list.
Maybe with a big season in 2014 he'll look like a lock first rounder. Two years into his college career, he's still been more of a tease than a consistent dominator.
cstu
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Couldn't you say that about some of the top WR's in this year's draft?You can pick out 3-4 games where he did well. I'm not sure that's the best way to look at his stats.He easily could have had 5 TD's against Kentucky instead of 4.Sinrman said:
The only receivers to have big games against Auburn last year were Evans, Moncrief, Cooper, Landry and DGB.
It's fair to say he hasn't lived up to expectations, but if he were in this draft who would you rather have after Watkins and Evans?
On the balance, his season was just pretty good. Not great. Okay yardage. Nice TD total. Still very inconsistent.
I think he has a pretty high ceiling as a tall target with deep speed and some agility. However, he's not really all that bulky or strong and still seems like a bit of a one-tricky pony (or maybe a two-trick pony as a deep threat who can also win jump balls in the red zone).
This is a deep WR class and if he were eligible I don't think he'd be higher than 6th-7th on my list.
Maybe with a big season in 2014 he'll look like a lock first rounder. Two years into his college career, he's still been more of a tease than a consistent dominator.
EBF
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Maybe someone like Moncrief or Bryant who will be drafted based on potential.Couldn't you say that about some of the top WR's in this year's draft?You can pick out 3-4 games where he did well. I'm not sure that's the best way to look at his stats.He easily could have had 5 TD's against Kentucky instead of 4.Sinrman said:
The only receivers to have big games against Auburn last year were Evans, Moncrief, Cooper, Landry and DGB.
It's fair to say he hasn't lived up to expectations, but if he were in this draft who would you rather have after Watkins and Evans?
On the balance, his season was just pretty good. Not great. Okay yardage. Nice TD total. Still very inconsistent.
I think he has a pretty high ceiling as a tall target with deep speed and some agility. However, he's not really all that bulky or strong and still seems like a bit of a one-tricky pony (or maybe a two-trick pony as a deep threat who can also win jump balls in the red zone).
This is a deep WR class and if he were eligible I don't think he'd be higher than 6th-7th on my list.
Maybe with a big season in 2014 he'll look like a lock first rounder. Two years into his college career, he's still been more of a tease than a consistent dominator.
Watkins, Evans, Lee, Beckham, Cooks, Matthews, Robinson, Latimer all have at least one 1000+ yard season.
Watkins, Evans, Lee, Cooks, and Robinson all did it within their first two college seasons.
If you think DGB is going to become a monster then fine. Thus far, it's fair to say he hasn't been one.
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As a Mizzou fan, DGB is hard to gauge.
On one hand, they didn't need him to be Danario Alexander of 2010 and force the ball to him over and over in double-coverage because there were no other options, they had L'D Washington and Marcus Lucas, who both could be drafted to go along with him this past year, plus a legit running game with 3 very capable backs. He had some big games, but the Mizzou offense is designed to create mismatches and a good QB should be able to pick opposing D's apart if the protection holds up.
The other thing is that 2012 was basically a wasted year for the offense, we were missing Franklin for at least half the season, Josey was gone with his horrific knee injury and our 2-deep OL was missing 7 of the top 10 after week 4 or 5. The QB that played a good portion of the season was a red-shirt Frosh that was nowhere close to being ready and was thrown into SEC play...not a good combo for offensive skill players. Pretty much the worst possible scenario for joining the SEC and trying to earn respect with your B and C team players going against Bama, Florida, Georgia, etc... each week. This past year, Franklin went down against UGA early in the conference season and Mauk was ready and looked very good for most of the next 3-4 games and was brought in to breathe some life into the offense in key games like the Cotton Bowl when the O was very stagnant.
This was going to be the year where you knew exactly what you had in DGB...hopefully we still get to see it and this whole thing blows over as nothing more than an over-reaction by a neighbor that sparked an investigation. If it turns into more, he is gone and will probably show up at Missouri State and terrorize 5'9 160 lb corners from small midwestern towns on his way to the 2015 draft.
On one hand, they didn't need him to be Danario Alexander of 2010 and force the ball to him over and over in double-coverage because there were no other options, they had L'D Washington and Marcus Lucas, who both could be drafted to go along with him this past year, plus a legit running game with 3 very capable backs. He had some big games, but the Mizzou offense is designed to create mismatches and a good QB should be able to pick opposing D's apart if the protection holds up.
The other thing is that 2012 was basically a wasted year for the offense, we were missing Franklin for at least half the season, Josey was gone with his horrific knee injury and our 2-deep OL was missing 7 of the top 10 after week 4 or 5. The QB that played a good portion of the season was a red-shirt Frosh that was nowhere close to being ready and was thrown into SEC play...not a good combo for offensive skill players. Pretty much the worst possible scenario for joining the SEC and trying to earn respect with your B and C team players going against Bama, Florida, Georgia, etc... each week. This past year, Franklin went down against UGA early in the conference season and Mauk was ready and looked very good for most of the next 3-4 games and was brought in to breathe some life into the offense in key games like the Cotton Bowl when the O was very stagnant.
This was going to be the year where you knew exactly what you had in DGB...hopefully we still get to see it and this whole thing blows over as nothing more than an over-reaction by a neighbor that sparked an investigation. If it turns into more, he is gone and will probably show up at Missouri State and terrorize 5'9 160 lb corners from small midwestern towns on his way to the 2015 draft.
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[SIZE=13pt]Brookside Burglary Investigation Completed[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=10pt]BROOKSIDE BURGLARY INVESTIGATION COMPLETED[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]The burglary investigation that occurred on 4/6/14 at 2:36 A.M. in the 300 block of Old Plank Road involving Dorial Green-Beckham has been completed. Based on the information obtained during the investigation there will be no arrests made in this case.[/SIZE]
identikit
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Albert Breer needs to stop looking at 2011 stats.
Move over Dorial Green-Beckham.
The Mizzou star wide receiver is now No. 2 all-time in the high school record books, looking up at Barbe (Lake Charles, La.) senior Trey Quinn. Quinn topped Green-Beckham's mark of 6,356 career yards on Friday night in an opening-round 42-16 playoff victory over South Lafourche.
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Missouri WR Dorial Green-Beckham allegedly assaulted womanBy Chase Goodbread
College Football 24/7 writer
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B. Nugget
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I doubt if he is gone for good if this is being released, I'm guessing a 2-4 game suspension and back by the SEC conference season.
COLUMBIA, Mo. ? John Beckham, the father of Missouri wide receiver Dorial Green-Beckham, called the Post-Dispatch Friday to read a statement from Green-Beckham in response to his legal situation this week.
Columbia Police announced Thursday that there will be no arrests made in the burglary investigation from an incident involving Green-Beckham last weekend. Green-Beckham, MU's leading returning receiver, remains suspended indefinitely by coach Gary Pinkel.
John Beckham, who coached Green-Beckham, 20, at Hillcrest High School in Springfield and adopted him and his younger brother, Darnell, said he initially considered offering a statement on the situation but instead decided to let Dorial write his own statement.
“First and most importantly, I take responsibly for my conduct and my mistakes. Don’t blame my girlfriend or her friends for anything. I am not looking for sympathy. I thank those who have given me concern. I have been young and dumb. I want to be better. During my suspension I’m entering counseling. With help, I know I can be stronger emotionally and spiritually. My relationship with God, my family, friends, teammates and coaches are most important in my life, not football. It may not be possible to fix everything, but it won’t be for not trying. ? Dorial Green Beckham"
John Beckham declined to comment further.
COLUMBIA, Mo. ? John Beckham, the father of Missouri wide receiver Dorial Green-Beckham, called the Post-Dispatch Friday to read a statement from Green-Beckham in response to his legal situation this week.
Columbia Police announced Thursday that there will be no arrests made in the burglary investigation from an incident involving Green-Beckham last weekend. Green-Beckham, MU's leading returning receiver, remains suspended indefinitely by coach Gary Pinkel.
John Beckham, who coached Green-Beckham, 20, at Hillcrest High School in Springfield and adopted him and his younger brother, Darnell, said he initially considered offering a statement on the situation but instead decided to let Dorial write his own statement.
“First and most importantly, I take responsibly for my conduct and my mistakes. Don’t blame my girlfriend or her friends for anything. I am not looking for sympathy. I thank those who have given me concern. I have been young and dumb. I want to be better. During my suspension I’m entering counseling. With help, I know I can be stronger emotionally and spiritually. My relationship with God, my family, friends, teammates and coaches are most important in my life, not football. It may not be possible to fix everything, but it won’t be for not trying. ? Dorial Green Beckham"
John Beckham declined to comment further.
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I read the police report, which of course is one side of the story, but it obviously didn't sound very promising. The bigger issue is that there were some texts between the alleged victim and his girlfriend that cast a very shady side to DGB that most weren't aware of and i'm assuming this is the reason for the counseling mentioned above..
This thing seems to have been blown completely out of proportion in some regards because of social media.
For example, a drunk college kid that admits he was intoxicated at the time (after returning from the bars) heard some screaming/yelling at 2:30 a.m. and went outside his apartment and saw some people outside at an apartment "at least 100 yards away" and heard someone yell something to the effect of "someone call 911, DGB is beating a girl" and someone did make the call and the police showed up and took down the details. This kid then gets quoted in every major newspaper in Missouri and picked up by national media, so the police questioned him and it is part of the report because he started the firestorm of media attention when he tweeted ""Sooo DGB just beat up some chick in brookside #notokay" at approximately 3:05 a.m.
This is what the official police report says about this "eye witness"
I made contact with [name redacted], who lives near the residence of this burglary incident. I was able to gather his name from an article in the Columbia Missourian where he is quoted as saying "After Green-Beckham drove away, his teammates were yelling at us not to call the cops." I believed he may be a potential witness to what occurred outside of the apartment after the alleged burglary occurred. I believed he may be a witness of a domestic assault crime [involving] Dorial Green-Beckham.
Upon contacting [Connor], I asked him to tell me what had occurred. He stated he was inside his house, heard noises, went outside and saw a group of people yelling and screaming, and saw a white car leave the area. He advised that other people were telling him that DGB was involved, however, he never did see Mr. Green-Beckham. I then read to him his statements as reported by the newspaper which he advised me he did not state that he saw anything. He had actually called the journalist who wrote the article, and told her that he was misquoted, and he was told they would try to change the quote in the paper before it went to press, however, that did not occur.
I asked [him] what he saw. He stated he witnessed these people arguing and yelling, and the car leave. He stated that he did not recognize anybody or see anybody do anything wrong. He stated he did see a girl walk up to the car and then walk back into her apartment. But he did not see anything else."
So the key witness to DGB "beat up a chick" didn't actually see DGB at all that night according to the police report.
This thing seems to have been blown completely out of proportion in some regards because of social media.
For example, a drunk college kid that admits he was intoxicated at the time (after returning from the bars) heard some screaming/yelling at 2:30 a.m. and went outside his apartment and saw some people outside at an apartment "at least 100 yards away" and heard someone yell something to the effect of "someone call 911, DGB is beating a girl" and someone did make the call and the police showed up and took down the details. This kid then gets quoted in every major newspaper in Missouri and picked up by national media, so the police questioned him and it is part of the report because he started the firestorm of media attention when he tweeted ""Sooo DGB just beat up some chick in brookside #notokay" at approximately 3:05 a.m.
This is what the official police report says about this "eye witness"
I made contact with [name redacted], who lives near the residence of this burglary incident. I was able to gather his name from an article in the Columbia Missourian where he is quoted as saying "After Green-Beckham drove away, his teammates were yelling at us not to call the cops." I believed he may be a potential witness to what occurred outside of the apartment after the alleged burglary occurred. I believed he may be a witness of a domestic assault crime [involving] Dorial Green-Beckham.
Upon contacting [Connor], I asked him to tell me what had occurred. He stated he was inside his house, heard noises, went outside and saw a group of people yelling and screaming, and saw a white car leave the area. He advised that other people were telling him that DGB was involved, however, he never did see Mr. Green-Beckham. I then read to him his statements as reported by the newspaper which he advised me he did not state that he saw anything. He had actually called the journalist who wrote the article, and told her that he was misquoted, and he was told they would try to change the quote in the paper before it went to press, however, that did not occur.
I asked [him] what he saw. He stated he witnessed these people arguing and yelling, and the car leave. He stated that he did not recognize anybody or see anybody do anything wrong. He stated he did see a girl walk up to the car and then walk back into her apartment. But he did not see anything else."
So the key witness to DGB "beat up a chick" didn't actually see DGB at all that night according to the police report.
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werdnoynek
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I wonder if he'll be back with the team if there are no charges... will be interesting to see if he gets another shot. Otherwise it's going to be a long wait for the 2015 draft, he better start working hard now regardless.
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Top 2015 prospect Green-Beckham kicked off Missouri teamPosted by Michael David Smith on April 11, 2014, 4:13 PM EDT
massraider
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Looks really bad, like Mizzou suspended him, got all the info and said, "Oh, really?", then dismissed him.
werdnoynek
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Ouch. Will be interesting to see what happens next... continue to play somewhere else or wait it out?
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False Start
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He will still get drafted next year and will be a big time fantasy prospect.
identikit
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IMO he'd be smart to try to get on a smaller school team (he definitely needs the structure), and keep his nose clean.
Actual productivity would be a plus.
Staying out of trouble would have the greatest weight come 2015 when he can enter the draft.
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MoveToSkypager
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Here is a somewhat recent piece on Reggie Barlow and the Alabama State program.
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20130310/SPORTS0403/303100028/Commentary-Alabama-State-coach-Barlow-rolls-dice-troubled-players
I know that North Alabama might be another place, or at least it was when one of the Bowden sons was running the program. Not sure about now.
Might we see DGB play at one of these schools in the fall?
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20130310/SPORTS0403/303100028/Commentary-Alabama-State-coach-Barlow-rolls-dice-troubled-players
I know that North Alabama might be another place, or at least it was when one of the Bowden sons was running the program. Not sure about now.
Might we see DGB play at one of these schools in the fall?
OrangeJulius
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If I were a top recruit I would NEVER even consider Mizzou as an option after they turn their back on him over some minor domestic dispute.....
Bad move - long term - for the program....
Bad move - long term - for the program....
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