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SHIZNITTTT

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back story - A coach that used to be the HC for our boys baseball team is a doush he will be referred as DD for this story. Long story long we got away from him because we didn't like his style of coaching and playing "daddy ball." This was in 2nd grade. Tough situation because his son and one of my twins are best friends. DD is a HC on another football team. They suck pretty bad. DD's kid is their QB go figure. Fast forward to 5th grade football that is starting and my twins play on the arguably the best team in our city. DD has wanted to get his kid on our team for a few seasons main reason is his teams sucks. One of the coaches on our team is pretty good friends with DD and every year like clock work wants to invite DD and his kid to our team. Everyone on our team knows how much my family dislikes this guy, and to be the bigger person my wife and I had a heart to heart and decided that if it was ok with the other parents go ahead and invite DD and his kid to our team. I just wouldn't want one of my boys to not get an opportunity to play on a team because of me.

So tonight again brought up about bringing DD to the team. I told the new coaches the back story and wouldn't you know one of the new coached says, "#### that ####, DD made a pass at my wife years ago and I almost killed him. If he is on the team we are off the team."

Sorry 2am here and pretty tired.

 
So there are grown ups that aren't letting a kid play on the team because they don't like the dad? Pathetic.
Not really. I have seen one parent poison a team. If this guy is that big a doosh I wouldn't want his kid on my team either. Because you get the kid, you get the dad. Act like a doosh it comes back to haunt you.

 
Why can't you let the kid play but not let the dad coach?
This. Tell DD if he wants his kid on the team he keeps his ####### mouth shut.
Yeah run with that and report back. Hilarity should ensue.
Sounds like OP has at least one other dad on his side. And presumably they already have a coach.
Like I said I have seen this play out before. If this guy is like the OP said then he will not be quiet. He will constantly be trying to find some way to have his way. And it sounds like DD has a coach buddy. I wouldn't be surprised he is involved in coaching the team within days of arrival. And then the real fun starts. Because see he will really wants to be head coach. Seen it over and over.

 
Why can't you let the kid play but not let the dad coach?
This. Tell DD if he wants his kid on the team he keeps his ####### mouth shut.
Yeah run with that and report back. Hilarity should ensue.
Sounds like OP has at least one other dad on his side. And presumably they already have a coach.
Like I said I have seen this play out before. If this guy is like the OP said then he will not be quiet. He will constantly be trying to find some way to have his way. And it sounds like DD has a coach buddy. I wouldn't be surprised he is involved in coaching the team within days of arrival. And then the real fun starts. Because see he will really wants to be head coach. Seen it over and over.
I've seen it play out the other way too. You tell the Dad that his son can play on the team but you already have coaches for the team and you don't want any interference. If he can't agree to that then you can't take the kid on the team. Leave it up to him to decide which is more important.

 
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Why can't you let the kid play but not let the dad coach?
This. Tell DD if he wants his kid on the team he keeps his ####### mouth shut.
Yeah run with that and report back. Hilarity should ensue.
Sounds like OP has at least one other dad on his side. And presumably they already have a coach.
Like I said I have seen this play out before. If this guy is like the OP said then he will not be quiet. He will constantly be trying to find some way to have his way. And it sounds like DD has a coach buddy. I wouldn't be surprised he is involved in coaching the team within days of arrival. And then the real fun starts. Because see he will really wants to be head coach. Seen it over and over.
I've seen it play out the other way too. You tell the Dad that his son can play on the team but you already have coaches for the team and you don't want any interference. If he can't agree to that then you can't take the kid on the team. Leave it up to him to decide which is more important.
Not worth it IMO. He will say anything. Once he's in then removing the kid from the team becomes problematic at the very least. If I were a parent and this guy was what the OP says, which I am taking at face value, then no way is my vote.

 
Why are they a package deal? I dont understand that part. Yeah I understand they are father & son but why does the father also have to coach?

 
There would be a lot less kids playing youth sports these days if we didn't let them play because of dbag parents.

 
Why can't you let the kid play but not let the dad coach?
This. Tell DD if he wants his kid on the team he keeps his ####### mouth shut.
Yeah run with that and report back. Hilarity should ensue.
Sounds like OP has at least one other dad on his side. And presumably they already have a coach.
Like I said I have seen this play out before. If this guy is like the OP said then he will not be quiet. He will constantly be trying to find some way to have his way. And it sounds like DD has a coach buddy. I wouldn't be surprised he is involved in coaching the team within days of arrival. And then the real fun starts. Because see he will really wants to be head coach. Seen it over and over.
I've seen it play out the other way too. You tell the Dad that his son can play on the team but you already have coaches for the team and you don't want any interference. If he can't agree to that then you can't take the kid on the team. Leave it up to him to decide which is more important.
Not worth it IMO. He will say anything. Once he's in then removing the kid from the team becomes problematic at the very least. If I were a parent and this guy was what the OP says, which I am taking at face value, then no way is my vote.
Guilty by association is bull####, especially when its a kid.

 
Why can't you let the kid play but not let the dad coach?
This. Tell DD if he wants his kid on the team he keeps his ####### mouth shut.
Yeah run with that and report back. Hilarity should ensue.
Sounds like OP has at least one other dad on his side. And presumably they already have a coach.
Like I said I have seen this play out before. If this guy is like the OP said then he will not be quiet. He will constantly be trying to find some way to have his way. And it sounds like DD has a coach buddy. I wouldn't be surprised he is involved in coaching the team within days of arrival. And then the real fun starts. Because see he will really wants to be head coach. Seen it over and over.
I've seen it play out the other way too. You tell the Dad that his son can play on the team but you already have coaches for the team and you don't want any interference. If he can't agree to that then you can't take the kid on the team. Leave it up to him to decide which is more important.
Not worth it IMO. He will say anything. Once he's in then removing the kid from the team becomes problematic at the very least. If I were a parent and this guy was what the OP says, which I am taking at face value, then no way is my vote.
Guilty by association is bull####, especially when its a kid.
Kid is playing. Kid is just not playing on the good team. Dad is a doosh. Good team doesn't want his drama. Sucks to be the kid but that's life.

 
I've coached my kids in soccer, football, baseball and basketball.

For the basketball team last year, teams were formed via draft. I drafted my team for the parents almost as much as for the kids. As others have said, one bad parent can sour the entire experience for the team. Kids can be part of a losing team but still learn the sport, how to be teammates and most importantly still have fun even if they lose.

Throw in a bad parent and you have the potential to lose the fun aspect, as well as the learning and enjoyment of the sport.

 
DD got divorced this year and started dating a single mom on our team. They are basically living together now. So DD has said it would be nice nice for the boys to both be able to play on the same team. .. logistics blah blah blah.

Another part that bugs me ... DD is a HC and would be willing to leave his team to have his kid play with us? We start practice Monday so that would leave his team in turmoil.

Good news is that it doesn't seem like it will happen. Since we would have to trade one of our players for DD's boy.

And, who in the hell wants to tell a parent..."uh Mr Jones we traded your kid for another and now you are going to be playing for team X"

 
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Why are they a package deal? I dont understand that part. Yeah I understand they are father & son but why does the father also have to coach?
The dad is a coach. You really think that he is going to sit quietly on the sideline and not cause a stink? At the least he will be questioning every move made by the other coaches. Toss in some already dicey relationships with other parents on the team and it's a recipe for disaster.

 
So there are grown ups that aren't letting a kid play on the team because they don't like the dad? Pathetic.
Sounds like you aren't familiar with youth sports. If you let the kid play, it's the whole family that you have to deal with. Several times in the past when I was involved in running a team, we would pass on bringing a talented kid on because of the parents.

 
DD got divorced this year and started dating a single mom on our team. They are basically living together now. So DD has said it would be nice nice for the boys to both be able to play on the same team. .. logistics blah blah blah.

Another part that bugs me ... DD is a HC and would be willing to leave his team to have his kid play with us? We start practice Monday so that would leave his team in turmoil.

Good news is that it doesn't seem like it will happen. Since we would have to trade one of our players for DD's boy.

And, who in the hell wants to tell a parent..."uh Mr Jones we traded your kid for another and now you are going to be playing for team X"
trade single mom's kid to DD's team for someone else. Then their kids are together. Wala.

 
DD got divorced this year and started dating a single mom on our team. They are basically living together now. So DD has said it would be nice nice for the boys to both be able to play on the same team. .. logistics blah blah blah.

Another part that bugs me ... DD is a HC and would be willing to leave his team to have his kid play with us? We start practice Monday so that would leave his team in turmoil.

Good news is that it doesn't seem like it will happen. Since we would have to trade one of our players for DD's boy.

And, who in the hell wants to tell a parent..."uh Mr Jones we traded your kid for another and now you are going to be playing for team X"
trade single mom's kid to DD's team for someone else. Then their kids are together. Wala.
This seems like the best solution. You can't trade a kid on your team to a team without a coach.

 
Why can't you let the kid play but not let the dad coach?
This. Tell DD if he wants his kid on the team he keeps his ####### mouth shut.
:goodposting: if another parent pulls his kid because of your decision, that's the other parent's choice, not yours. That said, I would make damned sure that Doctor Detroit understood you are giving the OK on the condition that he behave himself and it won't be a mistake you make twice if he doesn't.

On second thought... his kid is already on a team. It's not like he can't play. Tell him the teams are set the way they are.

 
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DD got divorced this year and started dating a single mom on our team. They are basically living together now. So DD has said it would be nice nice for the boys to both be able to play on the same team. .. logistics blah blah blah.

Another part that bugs me ... DD is a HC and would be willing to leave his team to have his kid play with us? We start practice Monday so that would leave his team in turmoil.

Good news is that it doesn't seem like it will happen. Since we would have to trade one of our players for DD's boy.

And, who in the hell wants to tell a parent..."uh Mr Jones we traded your kid for another and now you are going to be playing for team X"
Trading players was always a no-no when I was an officer of our youth sports program.

 
It's nice that there are 2 threads to discuss this issue in. Plenty of space to let everyone's opinions breathe

 
DD got divorced this year and started dating a single mom on our team. They are basically living together now. So DD has said it would be nice nice for the boys to both be able to play on the same team. .. logistics blah blah blah.

Another part that bugs me ... DD is a HC and would be willing to leave his team to have his kid play with us? We start practice Monday so that would leave his team in turmoil.

Good news is that it doesn't seem like it will happen. Since we would have to trade one of our players for DD's boy.

And, who in the hell wants to tell a parent..."uh Mr Jones we traded your kid for another and now you are going to be playing for team X"
"Oh and by the way Mr. Jones, you're now coaching team X. Have a great season."

 
Not sure I get the trade thing. Are you at your roster limit?
Sounds to me like its an in house league.
About 50 teams in the league We are allowed to trade although in my years of coaching I have never seen it done like this only for drafted players.
What is the reasoning for allowing trades? How many years are the kids in the league? Most leagues are only two years before they move up.

 
Cjw_55106 said:
SHIZNITTTT said:
Cjw_55106 said:
NCCommish said:
Not sure I get the trade thing. Are you at your roster limit?
Sounds to me like its an in house league.
About 50 teams in the league We are allowed to trade although in my years of coaching I have never seen it done like this only for drafted players.
What is the reasoning for allowing trades? How many years are the kids in the league? Most leagues are only two years before they move up.
ONe team for example may have too many RB's and need lineman and are looking to trade to balance their teams. We start in 2nd grade and go all the way up to 7th grade.

 

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