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Obama: Worst President Ever? (1 Viewer)

Worst ever?

  • Yes

    Votes: 134 36.2%
  • No

    Votes: 236 63.8%

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Andrew Johnson is in the running too.

This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men."

-- Andrew Johnson, 1866
Neither Johnson (Andrew nor LBJ) were bad Presidents. Andrew fought to preserve Lincoln's idea of a gentle Reconstruction against radical Republicans who wanted to devastate the South. LBJ had big mistakes with Vietnam and parts of the Great Society, but he got the Civil Rights Act passed, improved education, governed over a booming economy, and put a man on the moon.
 
Obama's legacy is tied to the ACA, plain and simple. As such, it's too early to say where he ranks. Even if it completely tanks however, he still might barely only make the top 10 worst. We've had some really bad presidents.

 
He could have been worse.

As it is, he hasn't done much and that's probably just what the country needed for his first term. It's hopeless to think he'll focus like a laser on jobs and the economy now so it'll be just more of the same until 2016. Let's not forget the inept Congress too. Both sides have failed us. No leadership anywhere in Washington. Lost decade.
LEGALIZED WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED............ARE YOU NUTS????? LOST DECADE? I DON'T HAVE TO HIDE MY POT ANYMORE!
What does Obama have to do with that?

 
GWB locked this one up years ago
What did Obama do that was much different than Bush?
Killed Bin Laden, turned the stock market around, saved the auto industry and revitalized housing prices. He also legalized weed, permitted gays to serve openly in our military and has not blocked the rights of gays to marry each other.
I am certain TARP is what termed the stock around. I am not sure how anyone could attribute any policy that Obama implemented to have any impact on something that started just a couple of months into his presidency. If you looked at what turned the stock market around it was directly related to the balance sheets of banks being stronger than expected.
Low inflation rates have played their part. But, if we're going to pin bad markets on presidents we need to do the same when markets/indices set records. For sure, Bush saw that in his presidency, but when he vacated office, where was the Dow and where is it now? Hate the Dow? Me too....S&P January 1, 2009: 968.68. S&P today: 1864. Hand it to the man, man.
You are confusing time frames with policy. Obama just happen to enter office during a huge scare in the market. The scare was eased as a direct result of what Bush implemented. At the time the market started to bounce back strongly, nothing Obama did had any impact yet.
But he's not the one who waged two wars and lowered taxes, which many will argue created many of our financial woes. I'd also argue that Bush's blind eye to the con-game being played by mortgage companies and Wall Street helped create a giant financial mess. Sure, blame Clinton for putting people in homes who had no business being there, but Bush had 8 years to ferret out the fraud and he did nothing but dance when housing prices went parabolic and people treated their new found equity as an ATM machine.

 
He could have been worse.

As it is, he hasn't done much and that's probably just what the country needed for his first term. It's hopeless to think he'll focus like a laser on jobs and the economy now so it'll be just more of the same until 2016. Let's not forget the inept Congress too. Both sides have failed us. No leadership anywhere in Washington. Lost decade.
LEGALIZED WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED............ARE YOU NUTS????? LOST DECADE? I DON'T HAVE TO HIDE MY POT ANYMORE!
What does Obama have to do with that?
He didn't stop it from happening? Bush's FED would have tamped that down hard. Obama? Light up, Americans? Enjoy. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeet, bro....Bush's FEDs were cracking down on medical marijuana operations in Cali throughout his reign. Obama be all chilllllllllllllll.

 
It's laughable to include Obama in the discussion as worst ever. The discussion of worst ever includes Wilson, Nixon, Fillmore, Pierce, Johnson, and Harding. My vote goes to Harding.
No mention of Hoover? Guy was partially responsible for the Great Depression.
Yup, honorable mention considering the other guys on my list either made policies that directly led to the civil war, were bigots, brought the US close to a dictatorship, or was known best as having been a great poker player.

Being partially responsible for the Depression is really bad, but gets an honorable mention in comparison.

Obama's starting to look pretty good though, isn't he?
TARP was probably the most important economic policy implemented in the 20th century. If anything, Bush was the reason there was no depression.
So Bush is the reason that the #### he ###### up wasn't as bad as it could have been? Got it.

 
He could have been worse.

As it is, he hasn't done much and that's probably just what the country needed for his first term. It's hopeless to think he'll focus like a laser on jobs and the economy now so it'll be just more of the same until 2016. Let's not forget the inept Congress too. Both sides have failed us. No leadership anywhere in Washington. Lost decade.
LEGALIZED WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED............ARE YOU NUTS????? LOST DECADE? I DON'T HAVE TO HIDE MY POT ANYMORE!
What does Obama have to do with that?
He didn't stop it from happening? Bush's FED would have tamped that down hard. Obama? Light up, Americans? Enjoy. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeet, bro....Bush's FEDs were cracking down on medical marijuana operations in Cali throughout his reign. Obama be all chilllllllllllllll.
Are you still a teenager? Jumping for joy about legal weed seems pretty silly and juvenile to me. Don't most people grow out of that nonsense?

 
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GWB locked this one up years ago
What did Obama do that was much different than Bush?
Killed Bin Laden, turned the stock market around, saved the auto industry and revitalized housing prices. He also legalized weed, permitted gays to serve openly in our military and has not blocked the rights of gays to marry each other.
I am certain TARP is what termed the stock around. I am not sure how anyone could attribute any policy that Obama implemented to have any impact on something that started just a couple of months into his presidency. If you looked at what turned the stock market around it was directly related to the balance sheets of banks being stronger than expected.
Low inflation rates have played their part. But, if we're going to pin bad markets on presidents we need to do the same when markets/indices set records. For sure, Bush saw that in his presidency, but when he vacated office, where was the Dow and where is it now? Hate the Dow? Me too....S&P January 1, 2009: 968.68. S&P today: 1864. Hand it to the man, man.
You are confusing time frames with policy. Obama just happen to enter office during a huge scare in the market. The scare was eased as a direct result of what Bush implemented. At the time the market started to bounce back strongly, nothing Obama did had any impact yet.
But he's not the one who waged two wars and lowered taxes, which many will argue created many of our financial woes. I'd also argue that Bush's blind eye to the con-game being played by mortgage companies and Wall Street helped create a giant financial mess. Sure, blame Clinton for putting people in homes who had no business being there, but Bush had 8 years to ferret out the fraud and he did nothing but dance when housing prices went parabolic and people treated their new found equity as an ATM machine.
I always have to save this link for whenever people say Bush did nothing about the mortgage crisis. Could he have done more? Sure! But to say he ignored it is false.

 
Andrew Johnson is in the running too.

This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men."

-- Andrew Johnson, 1866
Neither Johnson (Andrew nor LBJ) were bad Presidents. Andrew fought to preserve Lincoln's idea of a gentle Reconstruction against radical Republicans who wanted to devastate the South. LBJ had big mistakes with Vietnam and parts of the Great Society, but he got the Civil Rights Act passed, improved education, governed over a booming economy, and put a man on the moon.
Are you kidding? Andrew Johnson inherited the presidency, was the first president to be impeached, completely effed up Reconstruction policy, and used the presidency solely as a means to push his own horrible prejudices.

 
I'm not taking either side, but an interesting article, and it is from the Huff Post which def isn't a GWB supporter.

Income inequality much worse under Obama than Bush

From over a year ago, so I would be inclined that this trend got a lot worse last year.
Certainly no income inequality when Rockefeller, Carnegie and Ford ruled the land, nope.
The gap is growing worse with Obama than any of his recent predecessors. This is basically undeniable.

 
I'm not taking either side, but an interesting article, and it is from the Huff Post which def isn't a GWB supporter.

Income inequality much worse under Obama than Bush

From over a year ago, so I would be inclined that this trend got a lot worse last year.
Of course income inequality is greater under Obama, because the economy is better. Poor people basically make the same amount whether the economy is good or bad. The incomes of rich people, however, will fluctuate by millions or more.

 
He could have been worse.

As it is, he hasn't done much and that's probably just what the country needed for his first term. It's hopeless to think he'll focus like a laser on jobs and the economy now so it'll be just more of the same until 2016. Let's not forget the inept Congress too. Both sides have failed us. No leadership anywhere in Washington. Lost decade.
LEGALIZED WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED............ARE YOU NUTS????? LOST DECADE? I DON'T HAVE TO HIDE MY POT ANYMORE!
They've enabled you to create your own lost decade

 
He could have been worse.

As it is, he hasn't done much and that's probably just what the country needed for his first term. It's hopeless to think he'll focus like a laser on jobs and the economy now so it'll be just more of the same until 2016. Let's not forget the inept Congress too. Both sides have failed us. No leadership anywhere in Washington. Lost decade.
LEGALIZED WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED............ARE YOU NUTS????? LOST DECADE? I DON'T HAVE TO HIDE MY POT ANYMORE!
What does Obama have to do with that?
He didn't stop it from happening? Bush's FED would have tamped that down hard. Obama? Light up, Americans? Enjoy. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeet, bro....Bush's FEDs were cracking down on medical marijuana operations in Cali throughout his reign. Obama be all chilllllllllllllll.
Are you still a teenager? Jumping for joy about legal weed seems pretty silly and juvenile to me. Don't most people grow out of that nonsense?
Hell no. 420 for life, bro. Now I don't have to hide it like it's some crime. You sound a little uptight. You should smoke some legal weed, chill and thank Obama, man.

Also, maybe you can now marry your gay lover.

 
I'm not taking either side, but an interesting article, and it is from the Huff Post which def isn't a GWB supporter.

Income inequality much worse under Obama than Bush

From over a year ago, so I would be inclined that this trend got a lot worse last year.
Certainly no income inequality when Rockefeller, Carnegie and Ford ruled the land, nope.
The gap is growing worse with Obama than any of his recent predecessors. This is basically undeniable.
Hint: He's not the one who cut taxes on the rich.

 
I'm not taking either side, but an interesting article, and it is from the Huff Post which def isn't a GWB supporter.

Income inequality much worse under Obama than Bush

From over a year ago, so I would be inclined that this trend got a lot worse last year.
Of course income inequality is greater under Obama, because the economy is better. Poor people basically make the same amount whether the economy is good or bad. The incomes of rich people, however, will fluctuate by millions or more.
The growing gap between the super elite and everyone else has gotten out of hand. How is this being questioned?

 
GWB locked this one up years ago
What did Obama do that was much different than Bush?
Killed Bin Laden, turned the stock market around, saved the auto industry and revitalized housing prices. He also legalized weed, permitted gays to serve openly in our military and has not blocked the rights of gays to marry each other.
:lmao:

GM fishing with dynamite here. nice work.
Dynamite for morons who think the claim is that Obama literally pulled the trigger

 
GWB locked this one up years ago
What did Obama do that was much different than Bush?
Killed Bin Laden, turned the stock market around, saved the auto industry and revitalized housing prices. He also legalized weed, permitted gays to serve openly in our military and has not blocked the rights of gays to marry each other.
:lmao:

GM fishing with dynamite here. nice work.
Dynamite for morons who think the claim is that Obama literally pulled the trigger
Or for people who get high on grass and also think that. :cool:

 
The best part that cracks me up is these guys are all the same... No difference between donkeys and elephants here. They pick a few issues to have different views on, but at the end of the day, these politicians are all the same and all scumbags. I hate them all, Republican or Democrat.

 
List of things Obama did:

Saved America

Saved the auto industry

Saved babies

Turned around the economy

Lifted the stock market

Cured cancer

Killed bin ladin

Invented the internet

Made cheap health care

Lowered unemployment

Discovered America

Saved dying kittens

Legalized weed

Thanks Obama!

:fishy:

 
GWB locked this one up years ago
What did Obama do that was much different than Bush?
Killed Bin Laden, turned the stock market around, saved the auto industry and revitalized housing prices. He also legalized weed, permitted gays to serve openly in our military and has not blocked the rights of gays to marry each other.
:lmao:

GM fishing with dynamite here. nice work.
the previous regime has deprioritized finding/killing Bin Laden. I thought that was common knowledge.

Cato: http://www.cato.org/blog/how-bush-lost-bin-laden

 
He could have been worse.

As it is, he hasn't done much and that's probably just what the country needed for his first term. It's hopeless to think he'll focus like a laser on jobs and the economy now so it'll be just more of the same until 2016. Let's not forget the inept Congress too. Both sides have failed us. No leadership anywhere in Washington. Lost decade.
LEGALIZED WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED............ARE YOU NUTS????? LOST DECADE? I DON'T HAVE TO HIDE MY POT ANYMORE!
What does Obama have to do with that?
He didn't stop it from happening? Bush's FED would have tamped that down hard. Obama? Light up, Americans? Enjoy. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeet, bro....Bush's FEDs were cracking down on medical marijuana operations in Cali throughout his reign. Obama be all chilllllllllllllll.
Are you still a teenager? Jumping for joy about legal weed seems pretty silly and juvenile to me. Don't most people grow out of that nonsense?
Hell no. 420 for life, bro. Now I don't have to hide it like it's some crime. You sound a little uptight. You should smoke some legal weed, chill and thank Obama, man.

Also, maybe you can now marry your gay lover.
What does 420 mean? Is that short for "homophobic"?

 
Was Harrison the guy that died from giving too long of an inaugural address? He was pretty lousy.

 
GWB locked this one up years ago
What did Obama do that was much different than Bush?
Killed Bin Laden, turned the stock market around, saved the auto industry and revitalized housing prices. He also legalized weed, permitted gays to serve openly in our military and has not blocked the rights of gays to marry each other.
I am certain TARP is what termed the stock around. I am not sure how anyone could attribute any policy that Obama implemented to have any impact on something that started just a couple of months into his presidency. If you looked at what turned the stock market around it was directly related to the balance sheets of banks being stronger than expected.
Low inflation rates have played their part. But, if we're going to pin bad markets on presidents we need to do the same when markets/indices set records. For sure, Bush saw that in his presidency, but when he vacated office, where was the Dow and where is it now? Hate the Dow? Me too....S&P January 1, 2009: 968.68. S&P today: 1864. Hand it to the man, man.
You are confusing time frames with policy. Obama just happen to enter office during a huge scare in the market. The scare was eased as a direct result of what Bush implemented. At the time the market started to bounce back strongly, nothing Obama did had any impact yet.
But he's not the one who waged two wars and lowered taxes, which many will argue created many of our financial woes. I'd also argue that Bush's blind eye to the con-game being played by mortgage companies and Wall Street helped create a giant financial mess. Sure, blame Clinton for putting people in homes who had no business being there, but Bush had 8 years to ferret out the fraud and he did nothing but dance when housing prices went parabolic and people treated their new found equity as an ATM machine.
The policies were in place long before Bush. You could point the finger at every politician for the last 30 years. And Bush's tax rates are still in place and Obama supports them.

 
GWB locked this one up years ago
What did Obama do that was much different than Bush?
Killed Bin Laden, turned the stock market around, saved the auto industry and revitalized housing prices. He also legalized weed, permitted gays to serve openly in our military and has not blocked the rights of gays to marry each other.
:lmao:

GM fishing with dynamite here. nice work.
the previous regime has deprioritized finding/killing Bin Laden. I thought that was common knowledge.

Cato: http://www.cato.org/blog/how-bush-lost-bin-laden
Fair enough. The good news is that at least he didn't de-prioritized the economy and jobs like the current regime.

 
On a scale of 1-10, I give Obama a 4... maybe he can rally and end up a 5.

I give GWB a pretty solid 2.

 
Andrew Johnson is in the running too.

This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men."

-- Andrew Johnson, 1866
Neither Johnson (Andrew nor LBJ) were bad Presidents. Andrew fought to preserve Lincoln's idea of a gentle Reconstruction against radical Republicans who wanted to devastate the South. LBJ had big mistakes with Vietnam and parts of the Great Society, but he got the Civil Rights Act passed, improved education, governed over a booming economy, and put a man on the moon.
Are you kidding? Andrew Johnson inherited the presidency, was the first president to be impeached, completely effed up Reconstruction policy, and used the presidency solely as a means to push his own horrible prejudices.
Huh? This has nothing to do with Obama, but your bolded sentence is not consensus.

Of course, I'm not a presidential historian, but Johnson's Tennessee roots and bigotry juxtaposed against Lincoln's bigotry have always been mentioned in every, every doc I've ever watched about Reconstruction or the South.

 
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Maybe not ever, but definitely worst president in my lifetime (worse than GWB[i didnt like him either] despite what the liberals will say)

 
Andrew Johnson is in the running too.

This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men."

-- Andrew Johnson, 1866
Neither Johnson (Andrew nor LBJ) were bad Presidents. Andrew fought to preserve Lincoln's idea of a gentle Reconstruction against radical Republicans who wanted to devastate the South. LBJ had big mistakes with Vietnam and parts of the Great Society, but he got the Civil Rights Act passed, improved education, governed over a booming economy, and put a man on the moon.
Are you kidding? Andrew Johnson inherited the presidency, was the first president to be impeached, completely effed up Reconstruction policy, and used the presidency solely as a means to push his own horrible prejudices.
He was impeached for firing a member of his cabinet. He had the Constitutional right to do so; the real reason he was impeached was because Republicans were sick of a Democrat as President. It was an embarrassment to Congress, but thankfully enough members of the Senate had the common sense not to go through with it (though by 1 vote!) As for messing up Reconstruction, he wanted to adhere to Lincoln's vision. As for Johnson's racism, that was pretty typical of the time. If we rated Presidents by attitudes about race, most of the ones we consider great would be at the bottom of the list.
 
I don't think so. In 10 years once Health Care is completely assimilated into the life of every American, people are going to feel silly that at one point everyone didn't have healthcare. It may be costly now but I believe everything will balance itself in a few years.

He's brought the standard of living up for people. That's a positive thing you can say about him, his foreign policy leaves some to be desired though.

 
He could have been worse.

As it is, he hasn't done much and that's probably just what the country needed for his first term. It's hopeless to think he'll focus like a laser on jobs and the economy now so it'll be just more of the same until 2016. Let's not forget the inept Congress too. Both sides have failed us. No leadership anywhere in Washington. Lost decade.
LEGALIZED WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED............ARE YOU NUTS????? LOST DECADE? I DON'T HAVE TO HIDE MY POT ANYMORE!
What does Obama have to do with that?
He didn't stop it from happening? Bush's FED would have tamped that down hard. Obama? Light up, Americans? Enjoy. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeet, bro....Bush's FEDs were cracking down on medical marijuana operations in Cali throughout his reign. Obama be all chilllllllllllllll.
Are you still a teenager? Jumping for joy about legal weed seems pretty silly and juvenile to me. Don't most people grow out of that nonsense?
like most other adults, I also hate expanding personal freedoms.

 
Andrew Johnson is in the running too.

This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men."

-- Andrew Johnson, 1866
Neither Johnson (Andrew nor LBJ) were bad Presidents. Andrew fought to preserve Lincoln's idea of a gentle Reconstruction against radical Republicans who wanted to devastate the South. LBJ had big mistakes with Vietnam and parts of the Great Society, but he got the Civil Rights Act passed, improved education, governed over a booming economy, and put a man on the moon.
Are you kidding? Andrew Johnson inherited the presidency, was the first president to be impeached, completely effed up Reconstruction policy, and used the presidency solely as a means to push his own horrible prejudices.
He was impeached for firing a member of his cabinet. He had the Constitutional right to do so; the real reason he was impeached was because Republicans were sick of a Democrat as President. It was an embarrassment to Congress, but thankfully enough members of the Senate had the common sense not to go through with it (though by 1 vote!) As for messing up Reconstruction, he wanted to adhere to Lincoln's vision. As for Johnson's racism, that was pretty typical of the time. If we rated Presidents by attitudes about race, most of the ones we consider great would be at the bottom of the list.
His entire cabinet was at odds with him because of how terrible a leader he was. The only reason he wasn't booted out was because he had no VP and congress feared his potential replacement even more. He vetoed the first civil rights bill. He was against giving any sort of recognition to blacks as equals. He was exactly what the country didn't need at a time when we really needed strong leadership.

You are in the extreme minority here by not regarding him amongst the worst presidents.

 
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