Gigantomachia
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An idiot?Come on, really?
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Biden says Joe the Plumber not a "real" plumber.... (1 Viewer)
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Oh I know that. Check out how many posts I have in the FFA's "McCain Headquarters" thread.
DanFouts
Footballguy
It was a nice idea to bring up a plumber, put a face to it....
But McCain is crazy if he thinks middle America is going to identify with a plumber making $250,000
Not to mention, he way overused the concept. Mention him once or twice, but he came back to him like 20 times....
McCain- " And I will work on nuclear power plants...Joe the Plumber, what's up...you can fix the toilets there"
But McCain is crazy if he thinks middle America is going to identify with a plumber making $250,000
Not to mention, he way overused the concept. Mention him once or twice, but he came back to him like 20 times....
McCain- " And I will work on nuclear power plants...Joe the Plumber, what's up...you can fix the toilets there"
Banger
Footballguy
especially if he doesn't have a plumbing liscense....to get a liscenced plummer costs a heck of a lot more than an unliscensed one. At the end of the day though, who really cares? The voters don't.
Brutis
Footballguy
Yes, really.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Gigantomachia
Footballguy
If you believe that I don't know what to say.Education down for sure.
cstu
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Bush is a Yale and Harvard grad. Think about it.
Gigantomachia
Footballguy
Gigantomachia
Footballguy
I have never thought Bush was an idiot.Drunk and stoned maybe, but not an idiot.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
LMAO at Peens calling anyone an idiot.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
scoobygang
Footballguy
What was amazing was that McCain only identified him as Joe Wurzelbacher once. He turned an actual person into some type of cartoon character, like Palin's Joe Sixpack. By the end of the debate, "Joe the Plumber" seemed about as real as Woody Woodpecker.
Gigantomachia
Footballguy
Gigantomachia
Footballguy
Brutis = Peens??Really??Say it ain't so Joe Six pack-Plumber.
PewterFan
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PC Load Letter
Irregardless.
Reminds me of the Andy Samburg Mark Wahlberg impression. Say hello to ya motha for me.TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Gigantomachia
Footballguy
Ducks still rule beaver!
DanFouts
Footballguy
Actually, in the original discusion with JTP, I thought Obama did a good job talking to him...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFC9jv9jfoA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFC9jv9jfoA
PewterFan
Footballguy
Quack you!Ducks still rule beaver!
BowieMercs
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
There are great counterarguments for lots of the stuff that's been thrown out."The Republicans were handed a budget surplus..."
"True, but it was balanced on the backs of the military and the intelligence community. Further, they were also handed a recession."
"Bush started a war that none of us wanted..." (or however the assertion is worded)
"The vote in the senate was entitled 'A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.' The vote was 77 for 23 in favor for. Those voting in favor of such action included names like Chris Dodd, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden. If you want to say that the war was because of bad intelligence, I'd be glad to talk about why our intelligence network was crippled..."
And on and on...
(I'd rather not debate viewpoints on those topics. I'm just saying it would have been much easier to throw out something resembling a thought out rebuttal.)
hxperson
Footballguy
Can someone please explain the outrage regarding this last part to me? Wouldn't getting more trucks on the road, as well as hiring more people, be an operating expense? Wouldn't that be netted out his business' taxable income, and therefore make Obama's increase on business income taxes fairly irrelevant to this decision?
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
But Andy, forget the stupid policy positions for a minute. Doesn't the fact that McCain couldn't rebut these things and that his campaign, filled with all the best people he knows, has done such a brutal job make you think that maybe he shouldn't be President?? I don't see how people can't see that. He can't counter much of anything on the issues and his campaign team has done a horrible job. Why do you WANT him to become President? How in the world is that good for America?There are great counterarguments for lots of the stuff that's been thrown out."The Republicans were handed a budget surplus..."
"True, but it was balanced on the backs of the military and the intelligence community. Further, they were also handed a recession."
"Bush started a war that none of us wanted..." (or however the assertion is worded)
"The vote in the senate was entitled 'A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.' The vote was 77 for 23 in favor for. Those voting in favor of such action included names like Chris Dodd, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden. If you want to say that the war was because of bad intelligence, I'd be glad to talk about why our intelligence network was crippled..."
And on and on...
(I'd rather not debate viewpoints on those topics. I'm just saying it would have been much easier to throw out something resembling a thought out rebuttal.)
Gigantomachia
Footballguy
Waaaaaay too factual for the FFA.Take him away.Can someone please explain the outrage regarding this last part to me? Wouldn't getting more trucks on the road, as well as hiring more people, be an operating expense? Wouldn't that be netted out his business' taxable income, and therefore make Obama's increase on business income taxes fairly irrelevant to this decision?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I dunno. I guess I'm assuming just because a campaign can't present a unified message doesn't mean the guy at the head can't be a Presidential-type decision maker.I'm more interested in the idea than how it's packaged.
Reaper
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Reminds me of Kerry and Gore.....I couldn't believe people didn't see it then... All they had to do was run a decent campaign, either one of em.ConstruxBoy said:But Andy, forget the stupid policy positions for a minute. Doesn't the fact that McCain couldn't rebut these things and that his campaign, filled with all the best people he knows, has done such a brutal job make you think that maybe he shouldn't be President?? I don't see how people can't see that. He can't counter much of anything on the issues and his campaign team has done a horrible job. Why do you WANT him to become President? How in the world is that good for America?Andy Dufresne said:There are great counterarguments for lots of the stuff that's been thrown out."The Republicans were handed a budget surplus..."BowieMercs said:Andy Dufresne said:
"True, but it was balanced on the backs of the military and the intelligence community. Further, they were also handed a recession."
"Bush started a war that none of us wanted..." (or however the assertion is worded)
"The vote in the senate was entitled 'A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.' The vote was 77 for 23 in favor for. Those voting in favor of such action included names like Chris Dodd, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden. If you want to say that the war was because of bad intelligence, I'd be glad to talk about why our intelligence network was crippled..."
And on and on...
(I'd rather not debate viewpoints on those topics. I'm just saying it would have been much easier to throw out something resembling a thought out rebuttal.)
I kept saying it... Tell us What YOU willl do... Not all this other BS.
U.S. Obamerica
Footballguy
It's real simple. They're are some people out there who are not you that make more than you. In the U.S. Obamerica you will get to become them. We are all gonna be rich! Except for the rich - they don't need any more money.
phthalatemagic
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:subscribe:
As someone that didn't understand how Bush won, the reasons are crystal clear now.Reminds me of Kerry and Gore.....I couldn't believe people didn't see it then... All they had to do was run a decent campaign, either one of em.ConstruxBoy said:But Andy, forget the stupid policy positions for a minute. Doesn't the fact that McCain couldn't rebut these things and that his campaign, filled with all the best people he knows, has done such a brutal job make you think that maybe he shouldn't be President?? I don't see how people can't see that. He can't counter much of anything on the issues and his campaign team has done a horrible job. Why do you WANT him to become President? How in the world is that good for America?Andy Dufresne said:There are great counterarguments for lots of the stuff that's been thrown out."The Republicans were handed a budget surplus..."BowieMercs said:Andy Dufresne said:
"True, but it was balanced on the backs of the military and the intelligence community. Further, they were also handed a recession."
"Bush started a war that none of us wanted..." (or however the assertion is worded)
"The vote in the senate was entitled 'A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.' The vote was 77 for 23 in favor for. Those voting in favor of such action included names like Chris Dodd, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden. If you want to say that the war was because of bad intelligence, I'd be glad to talk about why our intelligence network was crippled..."
And on and on...
(I'd rather not debate viewpoints on those topics. I'm just saying it would have been much easier to throw out something resembling a thought out rebuttal.)
I kept saying it... Tell us What YOU willl do... Not all this other BS.
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