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Breaking Bad on AMC (6 Viewers)

Is it too simplistic to classify Todd as your run-of-the-mill sociopath, or is there something deeper going on there? He's so damn polite, yet kills indiscriminately. There's a childlike quality to him which may or may not be masking a mental disability. Where is Dr. Melfi when you need her?
I think Todd is pretty sharp, he learns the meth cook fairly well, was good at the Vamanos Pest job, quickly assessed the motorcycle kid and took care of him before he could take off, he was the one that stopped Jack from killing Jesse before they could get info out of him regarding what he had told the cops, etc... I'm sure there's lots more.

 
Is it too simplistic to classify Todd as your run-of-the-mill sociopath, or is there something deeper going on there? He's so damn polite, yet kills indiscriminately. There's a childlike quality to him which may or may not be masking a mental disability. Where is Dr. Melfi when you need her?
Todd was just a sociopath with good manners.

 
Is it too simplistic to classify Todd as your run-of-the-mill sociopath, or is there something deeper going on there? He's so damn polite, yet kills indiscriminately. There's a childlike quality to him which may or may not be masking a mental disability. Where is Dr. Melfi when you need her?
Todd was just a sociopath with good manners.
He is the scariest kind of sociopath to me. The way he so calmly killed the kid and Jesse's girlfriend without a second thought, and especially the way he offered to torture Jesse to find out exactly what he knew. That was chilling. Zero conscience. Zero soul.
 
Is it too simplistic to classify Todd as your run-of-the-mill sociopath, or is there something deeper going on there? He's so damn polite, yet kills indiscriminately. There's a childlike quality to him which may or may not be masking a mental disability. Where is Dr. Melfi when you need her?
Todd was just a sociopath with good manners.
This. He's not a dumb person. He's just psychotic.

 
Is it too simplistic to classify Todd as your run-of-the-mill sociopath, or is there something deeper going on there? He's so damn polite, yet kills indiscriminately. There's a childlike quality to him which may or may not be masking a mental disability. Where is Dr. Melfi when you need her?
Todd was just a sociopath with good manners.
This. He's not a dumb person. He's just psychotic.
I kind of equated him in my mind to Patrick Hockstetter (sp?) in Stephen King's IT. I guess Patrick oozed more overt creepiness than Todd, but some of that is due to "lit vs film" POV. In both cases, I doubt either character thought of others as "real".

 
"I watched Jane die. I was there. I watched her choke to death. I could have saved her -- but I didn't."

Cold-blooded, man.
It's been said a million times but how Cranston can go from being a victim to evil just by flipping a switch was pure brilliance.
When he is doing this during the "Tread Lightly" scene, it has to be the finest acting I've ever seen. It is amazing how much Cranston outshines Norris who himself is doing a similar thing very well.

 
"I watched Jane die. I was there. I watched her choke to death. I could have saved her -- but I didn't."

Cold-blooded, man.
It's been said a million times but how Cranston can go from being a victim to evil just by flipping a switch was pure brilliance.
When he is doing this during the "Tread Lightly" scene, it has to be the finest acting I've ever seen. It is amazing how much Cranston outshines Norris who himself is doing a similar thing very well.
Yeah it's like two athletes, one of whom is very good and another is a Hall of Famer. As good as Norris is (and he was great in that scene) he couldn't touch Cranston. Just a different level he was working on.

 
I don't know why, but I think Walter at his worst is in "Hazard Pay" when he convinces Jesse to break it off with Andrea.

It's so underhanded the way he comes off as paternalistic when he's just being self-serving.

 
I don't know why, but I think Walter at his worst is in "Hazard Pay" when he convinces Jesse to break it off with Andrea.

It's so underhanded the way he comes off as paternalistic when he's just being self-serving.
I had forgotten about that scene, but yeah, that was pretty bad.

And then later when Jesse tells him that he did break up with her, Walt dismisses it and steers the conversation on to Mike and his insistence on them all paying his guys.

 
So, I'm in the room reading while my wife is watching a rerun(circa 2006) of one of her favorite shows 'Ghost Whisperer'. At first I pay it no mind. Then, I recognize a voice. Then another voice.

I look up to see a street fight between Jesse Pinkman and Gus Fring! Jesse murders Gus and Gus comes back to haunt Jesse. It was awesome.

 
Still want to know how Gus knew not to get back into his car at the hospital parking lot.
He saw glint from Walt's glasses from across the parking lot. If you go back and re-watch that scene, they make a special point to show how his glasses are resting on his forehead, exposed to the sun.
Just watched the episode and that absolutely did not happen.
Yeah it absolutely did. They don't show Gus catching the glint, but they go out of their way to emphasize Walt's glasses. They do a nice job of showing this without hand-holding.

 
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Still want to know how Gus knew not to get back into his car at the hospital parking lot.
He saw glint from Walt's glasses from across the parking lot. If you go back and re-watch that scene, they make a special point to show how his glasses are resting on his forehead, exposed to the sun.
Just watched the episode and that absolutely did not happen.
Yeah it absolutely did. They don't show Gus catching the glint, but they go out of their way to emphasize Walt's glasses being at a funny angle on his forehead exposed to the sun.
So they don't show a glint, or Gus seeing a glint, or Gus possibly reacting to seeing a glint, but it definitely happened. Got it.

 
Still want to know how Gus knew not to get back into his car at the hospital parking lot.
He saw glint from Walt's glasses from across the parking lot. If you go back and re-watch that scene, they make a special point to show how his glasses are resting on his forehead, exposed to the sun.
Just watched the episode and that absolutely did not happen.
Yeah it absolutely did. They don't show Gus catching the glint, but they go out of their way to emphasize Walt's glasses being at a funny angle on his forehead exposed to the sun.
So they don't show a glint, or Gus seeing a glint, or Gus possibly reacting to seeing a glint, but it definitely happened. Got it.
:shrug: I thought it was completely obvious the first time I watched that scene. Guess we disagree.

 
What's on the screen speaks for itself. I agree completely that Gus has an intuition that something is up -- that's obvious from the way the scene plays out, and it makes sense given Gus's character. But yes, Walt's glasses are key in that scene. Either Esposito is misinterpreting it (which is not at all unheard of among actors), or it's an error on the director's part for suggesting it.

Edit: I missed the fact that you were the one who asked about this in the first place. It doesn't matter much either way, so if "clairvoyance" is the most satisfying explanation for you, just go with that. It doesn't influence the story either way.

 
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Hello Gretchen, Elliot... I really like your new house....

45 minutes to go!!!!!

This show ain't half bad.

 
What's on the screen speaks for itself. I agree completely that Gus has an intuition that something is up -- that's obvious from the way the scene plays out, and it makes sense given Gus's character. But yes, Walt's glasses are key in that scene. Either Esposito is misinterpreting it (which is not at all unheard of among actors), or it's an error on the director's part for suggesting it.

Edit: I missed the fact that you were the one who asked about this in the first place. It doesn't matter much either way, so if "clairvoyance" is the most satisfying explanation for you, just go with that. It doesn't influence the story either way.
Not a big deal,just wondering. I basically chalked it up to him realizing his car had been unattended and being hypercautious. Just seemed damn near superhuman sense of impending peril.

 
What's on the screen speaks for itself. I agree completely that Gus has an intuition that something is up -- that's obvious from the way the scene plays out, and it makes sense given Gus's character. But yes, Walt's glasses are key in that scene. Either Esposito is misinterpreting it (which is not at all unheard of among actors), or it's an error on the director's part for suggesting it.

Edit: I missed the fact that you were the one who asked about this in the first place. It doesn't matter much either way, so if "clairvoyance" is the most satisfying explanation for you, just go with that. It doesn't influence the story either way.
Guess Gilligan misinterpreted it too. :shrug:

Does Gus now, among his myriad other talents, possess a “Spidey sense,” as some critics (Time‘s James Poniewozik included) surmised in their morning-after recaps? Did something lead him to suspect that foul play was at play? “That’s a good question,” Vince Gilligan, who created the acclaimed AMC series, tells TVLine. “I think [the about-face] stems not from [something that happened in] the parking garage itself, but his ‘Spidey sense’ started tingling in the previous scene, when he was talking to Jesse.”

 
What's on the screen speaks for itself. I agree completely that Gus has an intuition that something is up -- that's obvious from the way the scene plays out, and it makes sense given Gus's character. But yes, Walt's glasses are key in that scene. Either Esposito is misinterpreting it (which is not at all unheard of among actors), or it's an error on the director's part for suggesting it.

Edit: I missed the fact that you were the one who asked about this in the first place. It doesn't matter much either way, so if "clairvoyance" is the most satisfying explanation for you, just go with that. It doesn't influence the story either way.
Guess Gilligan misinterpreted it too. :shrug:

Does Gus now, among his myriad other talents, possess a “Spidey sense,” as some critics (Time‘s James Poniewozik included) surmised in their morning-after recaps? Did something lead him to suspect that foul play was at play? “That’s a good question,” Vince Gilligan, who created the acclaimed AMC series, tells TVLine. “I think [the about-face] stems not from [something that happened in] the parking garage itself, but his ‘Spidey sense’ started tingling in the previous scene, when he was talking to Jesse.”
What you posted doesn't contradict what I posted.

But yes, it's very possible for a writer or director or actor to misinterpret his own work. Christopher Nolan completely misunderstood Memento, for example. The way I see it is that Gus sort of knows that something is up -- this doesn't require a lot of explanation because the guys is drug lord and has been through this before. He scans the skyline, and we're featured to shots of Walt's glasses at 45-degree angles to the sun about three times in short succession. I think Gus's intuition went off and then he saw that glint across the way and knew roughly what it signified. If Gilligan thinks otherwise, that's fine, but then he probably shouldn't have shot the scene that way.

 
What's on the screen speaks for itself. I agree completely that Gus has an intuition that something is up -- that's obvious from the way the scene plays out, and it makes sense given Gus's character. But yes, Walt's glasses are key in that scene. Either Esposito is misinterpreting it (which is not at all unheard of among actors), or it's an error on the director's part for suggesting it.

Edit: I missed the fact that you were the one who asked about this in the first place. It doesn't matter much either way, so if "clairvoyance" is the most satisfying explanation for you, just go with that. It doesn't influence the story either way.
Guess Gilligan misinterpreted it too. :shrug:

Does Gus now, among his myriad other talents, possess a “Spidey sense,” as some critics (Time‘s James Poniewozik included) surmised in their morning-after recaps? Did something lead him to suspect that foul play was at play? “That’s a good question,” Vince Gilligan, who created the acclaimed AMC series, tells TVLine. “I think [the about-face] stems not from [something that happened in] the parking garage itself, but his ‘Spidey sense’ started tingling in the previous scene, when he was talking to Jesse.”
What you posted doesn't contradict what I posted.

But yes, it's very possible for a writer or director or actor to misinterpret his own work. Christopher Nolan completely misunderstood Memento, for example. The way I see it is that Gus sort of knows that something is up -- this doesn't require a lot of explanation because the guys is drug lord and has been through this before. He scans the skyline, and we're featured to shots of Walt's glasses at 45-degree angles to the sun about three times in short succession. I think Gus's intuition went off and then he saw that glint across the way and knew roughly what it signified. If Gilligan thinks otherwise, that's fine, but then he probably shouldn't have shot the scene that way.
I took the glasses glint as misdirection by the director, the viewer worrying that Gus would see the glint, Walt not being aware of it, the tension for the viewer... then it didn't factor into what happened.

Gus already knew Walt wanted to kill him, and was determined to never be in Walt's presence again. Gus didn't get to where he did by not being smart, and not having great intuition. As soon as he learned that Jesse thought Gus had poisoned Brock, Gus's radar went off and the while situation suddenly felt "off" to him, hence his increased awareness and hyper-vigilance in the garage.

 

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