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3nOut

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Per CBS, The Bills may be willing to trade Spiller. I don't see it happening barring a major injury to a starter somewhere. Who would trade for him? Who needs a RB right now?

I'd expect the Bills to field calls for running backs if contending teams continue to lose them (Vick Ballard and Kendall Hunter already out for the year). Buffalo has more backs than it needs, probably, and C.J. Spiller, in the final year of his deal and with no extension in sight, could be the odd man out. I anticipate Fred Jackson being a Bill for life, and he could end up with a few new years on his deal, and the speed of Bryce Brown is impressive. Anthony Dixon supplies depth. A trade market for Spiller could well develop over the next month.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24638260/bills-training-camp-sammy-watkins-a-star-will-he-make-ej-manuel-better

 
I would be surprised if someone was willing to part with what the Bills want for him. Spiller isn't proven as a bellcow so isn't worth trading a 1st + big contract... which is what you have to do... give up a 1st and sign him immediately to a long-term deal. I don't see this happening. One of the reasons Indy gave a 1st for Trich is that he had 3 years left on his rookie deal, so they were potentially getting a franchise RB for the length of his rookie contract. That was worth a 1st at the time (I know he crashed and burned, but still).

 
Also, what does this mean for his fantasy value? A sign the team plans to use him in less of a role than expected?

 
3nOut said:
Per CBS, The Bills may be willing to trade Spiller. I don't see it happening barring a major injury to a starter somewhere. Who would trade for him? Who needs a RB right now?

I'd expect the Bills to field calls for running backs if contending teams continue to lose them (Vick Ballard and Kendall Hunter already out for the year). Buffalo has more backs than it needs, probably, and C.J. Spiller, in the final year of his deal and with no extension in sight, could be the odd man out. I anticipate Fred Jackson being a Bill for life, and he could end up with a few new years on his deal, and the speed of Bryce Brown is impressive. Anthony Dixon supplies depth. A trade market for Spiller could well develop over the next month.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24638260/bills-training-camp-sammy-watkins-a-star-will-he-make-ej-manuel-better
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No idea who this speculation is from but the fact they think Buffalo wants to extend a 33 yr old RB a "few" more years kind of ruins any credibility.

 
(Rotoworld)CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora suggests the Bills could trade C.J. Spiller before the season.


Analysis: It's hard to imagine because Spiller is Buffalo's best playmaker on a team very much in win-now mode. La Canfora's story also doesn't cite sources, hinting it's mere speculation. It's interesting nonetheless. Spiller is entering the final year of his contract, and the Bills seem unlikely to sign him long term. "A trade market for Spiller could well develop over the next month," La Canfora wrote of Spiller, who was not drafted by current Bills GM Doug Whaley. The Bills have Fred Jackson, Bryce Brown, and Anthony Dixon behind Spiller.


La Canfora speculation.
 
Oddly enough, the Bills have quite a history of trading their RBs. This has happened to Travis Henry (2001 2nd round pick, traded for a 2006 3rd), Willis McGahee (drafted in 1st of 2003, traded for a 3rd and 7th round pick in the 2007 draft), and Marshawn Lynch (1st in 2007, traded for a 4th in the 2011 draft and a conditional 2012).

 
I like the Rotoworld take...management showed their urgency in improving the franchise by trading away future picks to get Sammy Watkins. Why would they then trade away one of their biggest playmakers for a future pick? It doesn't really make sense from that perspective, but he has a player option for 2015 at appx. $2.2 mill base salary and $2.2 mill prorated bonus. And with the trade rumor and BUF trading for Brown one would assume that Spiller wants to enter free agency next offseason and that he has made that relatively obvious to management. I only own him in one league, but I'm excited about the prospect of him entering free agency. I would love for him to be able to pick the best situation for himself next offseason. If Toby Gerhart can get that kind of fantasy value...

 
imagine CJ Spiller in a Chip Kelly type of offense down in South Florida ( Lazor)..

Dolphins - please call the Buffalo Bills in regards to Spiller..Moreno is down, Miller isn't good enough,and Thomas is less-than-average..

 
Louche said:
I like the Rotoworld take...management showed their urgency in improving the franchise by trading away future picks to get Sammy Watkins. Why would they then trade away one of their biggest playmakers for a future pick? It doesn't really make sense from that perspective, but he has a player option for 2015 at appx. $2.2 mill base salary and $2.2 mill prorated bonus. And with the trade rumor and BUF trading for Brown one would assume that Spiller wants to enter free agency next offseason and that he has made that relatively obvious to management. I only own him in one league, but I'm excited about the prospect of him entering free agency. I would love for him to be able to pick the best situation for himself next offseason. If Toby Gerhart can get that kind of fantasy value...
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I had the opposite reaction to Rotoworld's take. The Bills are in "win now" mode? That's pretty funny.

 
Tanner9919 said:
imagine CJ Spiller in a Chip Kelly type of offense down in South Florida ( Lazor)..

Dolphins - please call the Buffalo Bills in regards to Spiller..Moreno is down, Miller isn't good enough,and Thomas is less-than-average..
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About the only landing spot I could think of that wouldn't crater his value.
 
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We hear this crap every year about players. Most deals never materialize. I don't see the Bills trading Spiller to a divisional rival.

 
Slapdash said:
Tanner9919 said:
imagine CJ Spiller in a Chip Kelly type of offense down in South Florida ( Lazor)..

Dolphins - please call the Buffalo Bills in regards to Spiller..Moreno is down, Miller isn't good enough,and Thomas is less-than-average..
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About the only landing spot I could think of that wouldn't crater his value.
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How bout Atlanta? Spiller would make that offense unstoppable.

 
If the Bills were going to let him walk next year anyways, why wouldn't they try to trade him now? The Bills are not in "win-now" mode but they are in "need to win soon or be fired" mode and rebuilding makes sense. You'd have to be a fool to think a team with a 2nd year QB and a rookie as the top WR is in win-now mode. I think Bills fans and owners would be fine with punting on this season as long as they made moves that made them significantly better next year. Getting anything for Spiller is a positive. Let's be real, the Bills aren't making the playoffs whether they have Spiller or not.

 
Slapdash said:
Tanner9919 said:
imagine CJ Spiller in a Chip Kelly type of offense down in South Florida ( Lazor)..

Dolphins - please call the Buffalo Bills in regards to Spiller..Moreno is down, Miller isn't good enough,and Thomas is less-than-average..
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About the only landing spot I could think of that wouldn't crater his value.
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Disagree pretty strongly with this. I think Spiller would be fine almost anywhere outside of the handful of teams that already have a true stud three down workhorse in place.

Spiller probably wouldn't be a workhorse no matter where he lands -- but he is good enough to carve out a 250 touch role unless he's competing with a Charles / McCoy / Peterson type player. And FF-wise, 250 touches is plenty for him to be an every week starter.

 
Tanner9919 said:
imagine CJ Spiller in a Chip Kelly type of offense down in South Florida ( Lazor)..

Dolphins - please call the Buffalo Bills in regards to Spiller..Moreno is down, Miller isn't good enough,and Thomas is less-than-average..
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1st of all, I think the the odds Spiller gets traded are very low. The odds he gets traded inside the division, practically zero IMO.
 
Tool said:
Louche said:
I like the Rotoworld take...management showed their urgency in improving the franchise by trading away future picks to get Sammy Watkins. Why would they then trade away one of their biggest playmakers for a future pick? It doesn't really make sense from that perspective, but he has a player option for 2015 at appx. $2.2 mill base salary and $2.2 mill prorated bonus. And with the trade rumor and BUF trading for Brown one would assume that Spiller wants to enter free agency next offseason and that he has made that relatively obvious to management. I only own him in one league, but I'm excited about the prospect of him entering free agency. I would love for him to be able to pick the best situation for himself next offseason. If Toby Gerhart can get that kind of fantasy value...
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I had the opposite reaction to Rotoworld's take. The Bills are in "win now" mode? That's pretty funny.
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:goodposting:

 
steveski said:
If the Bills were going to let him walk next year anyways, why wouldn't they try to trade him now? The Bills are not in "win-now" mode but they are in "need to win soon or be fired" mode and rebuilding makes sense. You'd have to be a fool to think a team with a 2nd year QB and a rookie as the top WR is in win-now mode. I think Bills fans and owners would be fine with punting on this season as long as they made moves that made them significantly better next year. Getting anything for Spiller is a positive. Let's be real, the Bills aren't making the playoffs whether they have Spiller or not.
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I think you underrate just how delusional most fans are. IMO, a small percentage would be fine with punting on this season, even if it sets them up better for the future.

That being said, I honestly think the Bills are undecided on what to do at RB in the future and will let this season determine what direction they want to go.

 
The Bills have made it absolutely clear that they are in "win now" mode. Trading Spiller would be silly if that's really their goal. They've mentioned several times now that they've gone back and studied previous tape of him to see how to get him in space more and better utilize him.

This seems more like pure made up speculation than anything having a basis in reality.

And whether anyone here thinks the Bills CAN win now is irrelevant. Every single person in the organization has made it clear that they are going all in to try to win now. No way does the team President, GM, coaching staff and players all say that and then turn around and trade Spiller.

 
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Tool said:
Louche said:
I like the Rotoworld take...management showed their urgency in improving the franchise by trading away future picks to get Sammy Watkins. Why would they then trade away one of their biggest playmakers for a future pick? It doesn't really make sense from that perspective, but he has a player option for 2015 at appx. $2.2 mill base salary and $2.2 mill prorated bonus. And with the trade rumor and BUF trading for Brown one would assume that Spiller wants to enter free agency next offseason and that he has made that relatively obvious to management. I only own him in one league, but I'm excited about the prospect of him entering free agency. I would love for him to be able to pick the best situation for himself next offseason. If Toby Gerhart can get that kind of fantasy value...
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I had the opposite reaction to Rotoworld's take. The Bills are in "win now" mode? That's pretty funny.
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they're certainly not in the "trade one of our best playermakers on offense for mid-round picks" mode.

They have a decent chance to get 2nd in their division, maybe the playoffs, would be a lot better chance with a healthy Kiko.

the team is on the market, they need to keep fan interest, they might move the team... yeah, they need to win.

 
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I could see him ending up in Washington. Jay Gruden would use him like Giovanni Bernard.

 
GroveDiesel said:
The Bills have made it absolutely clear that they are in "win now" mode. Trading Spiller would be silly if that's really their goal. They've mentioned several times now that they've gone back and studied previous tape of him to see how to get him in space more and better utilize him.

This seems more like pure made up speculation than anything having a basis in reality.

And whether anyone here thinks the Bills CAN win now is irrelevant. Every single person in the organization has made it clear that they are going all in to try to win now. No way does the team President, GM, coaching staff and players all say that and then turn around and trade Spiller.
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FUBAR said:
they're certainly not in the "trade one of our best playermakers on offense for mid-round picks" mode.
They have a decent chance to get 2nd in their division, maybe the playoffs, would be a lot better chance with a healthy Kiko.

the team is on the market, they need to keep fan interest, they might move the team... yeah, they need to win.
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I generally agree, although trading away Stevie for a mid-round pick kind of contradicts this.

 
humpback said:
GroveDiesel said:
The Bills have made it absolutely clear that they are in "win now" mode. Trading Spiller would be silly if that's really their goal. They've mentioned several times now that they've gone back and studied previous tape of him to see how to get him in space more and better utilize him.

This seems more like pure made up speculation than anything having a basis in reality.

And whether anyone here thinks the Bills CAN win now is irrelevant. Every single person in the organization has made it clear that they are going all in to try to win now. No way does the team President, GM, coaching staff and players all say that and then turn around and trade Spiller.
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FUBAR said:
they're certainly not in the "trade one of our best playermakers on offense for mid-round picks" mode.
They have a decent chance to get 2nd in their division, maybe the playoffs, would be a lot better chance with a healthy Kiko.

the team is on the market, they need to keep fan interest, they might move the team... yeah, they need to win.
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I generally agree, although trading away Stevie for a mid-round pick kind of contradicts this.
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not really. Stevie would be the #3 WR this year, if that. Triple W has good potential.

 
FUBAR said:
humpback said:
GroveDiesel said:
The Bills have made it absolutely clear that they are in "win now" mode. Trading Spiller would be silly if that's really their goal. They've mentioned several times now that they've gone back and studied previous tape of him to see how to get him in space more and better utilize him.

This seems more like pure made up speculation than anything having a basis in reality.

And whether anyone here thinks the Bills CAN win now is irrelevant. Every single person in the organization has made it clear that they are going all in to try to win now. No way does the team President, GM, coaching staff and players all say that and then turn around and trade Spiller.
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FUBAR said:
they're certainly not in the "trade one of our best playermakers on offense for mid-round picks" mode.
They have a decent chance to get 2nd in their division, maybe the playoffs, would be a lot better chance with a healthy Kiko.

the team is on the market, they need to keep fan interest, they might move the team... yeah, they need to win.
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I generally agree, although trading away Stevie for a mid-round pick kind of contradicts this.
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not really. Stevie would be the #3 WR this year, if that. Triple W has good potential.
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Still helps more than a draft pick a year from now. :shrug:

 
FUBAR said:
Stevie would be the #3 WR this year, if that. Triple W has good potential.
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Triple W.... I like that. Can't say I have heard it before. I like what the Buffalo Bills have done this offseason and they look very much primed to win now. Their offense looks explosive and Triple W along with Spiller/FJax/Bryce Brown. Young QB Manuel.

As an aside, I think LaConfora is way out in left field on this Spiller trade business. If anything, Spiller's going to be a young steadying weapon that the Bills can build around with Manuel. JMO.

 
What if they were shopping him for CB help or something like that? I know the season is getting real close, so the odds of that happening are diminishing as time to learn the system is dwindling.

Just a thought...

(In general, I'm in the "this is likely 100% speculation" camp.)

 
Grigs Allmoon said:
What if they were shopping him for CB help or something like that? I know the season is getting real close, so the odds of that happening are diminishing as time to learn the system is dwindling.

Just a thought...

(In general, I'm in the "this is likely 100% speculation" camp.)
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Don't think corner is their weak spot.

 
Tibereas said:
Slapdash said:
Tanner9919 said:
imagine CJ Spiller in a Chip Kelly type of offense down in South Florida ( Lazor)..

Dolphins - please call the Buffalo Bills in regards to Spiller..Moreno is down, Miller isn't good enough,and Thomas is less-than-average..
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About the only landing spot I could think of that wouldn't crater his value.
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How bout Atlanta? Spiller would make that offense unstoppable.
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Good one, probably a little more competition there though.

 
Quez said:
I could see him ending up in Washington. Jay Gruden would use him like Giovanni Bernard.
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No need, Morris is going to win the rushing title this year anyway. Book it. ;)

 
If it wasn't for the fact we'd have to pay him, I'd endorse throwing a conditional 4th at the Bills for Spiller as a Skins fan.

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
If it wasn't for the fact we'd have to pay him, I'd endorse throwing a conditional 4th at the Bills for Spiller as a Skins fan.
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Slapdash said:
Tibereas said:
Slapdash said:
Tanner9919 said:
imagine CJ Spiller in a Chip Kelly type of offense down in South Florida ( Lazor)..

Dolphins - please call the Buffalo Bills in regards to Spiller..Moreno is down, Miller isn't good enough,and Thomas is less-than-average..
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About the only landing spot I could think of that wouldn't crater his value.
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How bout Atlanta? Spiller would make that offense unstoppable.
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Good one, probably a little more competition there though.
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The Colts could use a RB.

 
I still don't get why the Bills would move Spiller. You really wanna trust a 58 year old RB and a career backup to carry the load??

 
ctrlaltdefeat said:
The bills will trade spiller for a 3rd or 4th because they like bryce brown and spiller's fragile state. No other reasons.
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Care to explain Spiller's "fragile state"? Especially considering that he's missed a total of 3 games in his 4 year career so far (2 of which were his rookie year 4 years ago)?

 
gianmarco said:
ctrlaltdefeat said:
The bills will trade spiller for a 3rd or 4th because they like bryce brown and spiller's fragile state. No other reasons.
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Care to explain Spiller's "fragile state"? Especially considering that he's missed a total of 3 games in his 4 year career so far (2 of which were his rookie year 4 years ago)?
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...and why would they like his fragile state..ha ha (sorry)

 
spiller is an NFL RB, hes certainly isnt more injury prone than Fred Jackson. And hes not at the bradshaw/fred taylor level.

People get hurt.

I would love for Spiller to get out from under the incompetent Bills organization

 
ctrlaltdefeat said:
The bills will trade spiller for a 3rd or 4th because they like bryce brown and spiller's fragile state. No other reasons.
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Brown is currently 4th on the depth chart and has received less first team reps than Robinson. In fact, I don't think he's received any so far.

 
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Bronx Bomber said:
GroveDiesel said:
ctrlaltdefeat said:
The bills will trade spiller for a 3rd or 4th because they like bryce brown and spiller's fragile state. No other reasons.
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Brown is currently 4th on the depth chart and has received less first team reps than Robinson. In fact, I don't think he's received any so far.
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Not sure who Robinson is but Ourlads has Brown 3rd. FWIW http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/BUF
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Gah. Brainfart. I meant Dixon.

And the Bills already released their first official depth chart and Dixon is 3rd with Brown 4th. And every report I've read from camp so far indicates that that's accurate and not some trick or plot to motivate or because Dixon will see goaline work or any of that. Dixon is legitimately the #3 RB right now. Ourlads is flat out bad info.

 
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