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Michigan Mayor Allows Prayer Booth But Not Reason Booth (1 Viewer)

Officer Pete Malloy

Officer Pete Malloy

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And he compares atheists to Nazis and the KKK.

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They say you can't fight city hall, but sometimes there's no other choice.

The residents of Warren, Michigan, visit their city hall on a regular basis to pay taxes, to vote, and to visit the library branch and the farmers market that are located there. Since 2009, they have also been able to visit a "Prayer Station" in the building's large atrium.

Set up by a local church under a city policy that lets civic organizations and residents reserve space, the table is staffed by volunteers, who pass out religious literature and invite passersby to pray with them or come to their church.

Douglas Marshall, an atheist, often passed the Prayer Station and decided to set up a similar "Reason Station" to offer information on atheism and free thought. But when he submitted an application, the mayor refused to accept it. He told Marshall that he would allow any religious group to use the atrium, but not Marshall, who he claimed was "anti-religion" and trying "to deprive all organized religions of their constitutional freedoms."

In an interview with the AP, Fouts defended his decision to refuse the "Reason Station," saying:

The city has certain values that I don’t believe are in general agreement with having an atheist station, nor in general agreement with having a Nazi station or Ku Klux Klan station. I cannot accept or will not allow a group that is disparaging of another group to have a station here.
But when a city opens up its facilities to the community, it can't pick and choose who gets to use them, and it certainly can't favor religious groups over nonreligious ones. That's why the ACLU and the ACLU of Michigan – along with Americans United for Separation of Church and State and the Freedom From Religion Foundation – filed a lawsuit last week on behalf of Marshall.

Let's be clear: No one's trying to get rid of the Prayer Station. But if the city gives a forum to one speaker, it can't silence another speaker just because it dislikes the message.

Pretty sure there's room for both a prayer station and a reason station, guys.

- See more at: http://thecontributor.com/civil-rights/sorry-mr-mayor-atheists-have-rights-too#sthash.T4JmoPDR.dpuf
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Smart move, Mayor McCheese.

 
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Someone on reddit summed it up pretty well:

  • the city will lose the lawsuit
  • rather than allowing a Reason Station, the Mayor will remove the Prayer Station
  • the removal of the Prayer Station will be blamed (wrongfully) on the ACLU, FFRF and that DAMNED HEATHEN THAT COMPLAINED IN THE FIRST PLACE
  • persecution of Christians will be (wrongfully) claimed
 
Complete ####### move by atheist. Take an activity that gives comfort to people in need and mocks it. The mayor was stupid in how he handled it.

 
trogg78 said:
jon_mx said:
Complete ####### move by atheist. Take an activity that gives comfort to people in need and mocks it. The mayor was stupid in how he handled it.
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Why can't people find comfort in reason?
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I'm not sure City Hall is the place to take comfort in God or reason. I think the Redditor is probably right in that both will be discontinued and that atheists will be blamed, but I don't think a public forum is really the place to solicit for churches or secular houses of communion. Lots of people find religion comforting, but it's not hard to find a place offering religious comfort. Just google "Warren Michigan Church."

 
jon_mx said:
Complete ####### move by atheist. Take an activity that gives comfort to people in need and mocks it.
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How could he have mocked anything? You need a booth to mock stuff, and he didn't get one!

If you think he was going mock stuff once he got a booth, what's the evidence for that?

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
trogg78 said:
jon_mx said:
Complete ####### move by atheist. Take an activity that gives comfort to people in need and mocks it. The mayor was stupid in how he handled it.
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Why can't people find comfort in reason?
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I'm not sure City Hall is the place to take comfort in God or reason. I think the Redditor is probably right in that both will be discontinued and that atheists will be blamed, but I don't think a public forum is really the place to solicit for churches or secular houses of communion. Lots of people find religion comforting, but it's not hard to find a place offering religious comfort. Just google "Warren Michigan Church."
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City Hall is no place for reason.

 
Warren isn't a small rural town either... population is probably around 150,000.

ETA Oh I see someone already posted about that.

 
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Now that the public library no longer has a prayer booth, where are people going to go if they want to pray? If only there were private organizations that provided support for people to engage in religious activity.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Now that the public library no longer has a prayer booth, where are people going to go if they want to pray? If only there were private organizations that provided support for people to engage in religious activity.
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Quit mocking Christians!!!!!!!111

 
I saw this schmuck on the local news on the Fourth of July seeking out responsible fireworks users and busting them

Based on that I'm not surprised about this

 
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