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Reggie Wayne Career Over? (1 Viewer)
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
People can rehab from a torn ACL in 10/11 months, AP did it in 7.5.
He doesn't appear to have that personality to just hang it up like that, nor have I read anywhere that he was contemplating retirement - Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if he signed for the veterans minimum in Denver next year.
He doesn't appear to have that personality to just hang it up like that, nor have I read anywhere that he was contemplating retirement - Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if he signed for the veterans minimum in Denver next year.
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zamboni
Footballguy
AP is a freak of nature though.
Reggie is obviously a gamer, but doesn't have anything to prove and he's got a Super Bowl ring. Not sure what the incentive is for him to go through an arduous rehab to get back on the field.
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
New England Patriots could use him.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Wayne turns 36 next November. I could see him having a Marvin Harrison-like 60-636-5 next year, but that's about it.
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Joe Summer
Footballguy
Would he re-structure his contract?
Rolling_akg
Footballguy
Too many fbgers been throwing dirt on reggie for a few years. I bet he's wr2-3 for fantasy next year. His loss exposed this team, next year some pressure will be off him too
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Shutout
Footballguy
He will be back and, if he is with the Colts, I'd say he has a similar year. People have been burying him for 3-4 years but Wayne is a different guy, kind of like the Masons and Hines Wards, etc. He hasn't relied on speed in YEARS. His game is about smarts, good hands, and precision routes and he can certainly still do that with no problem. Also, up until this injury, he was literally the most durable WR in the NFL. He hadn't missed a game in a decade so having this much time off to deal with the injury and not being the type to have one nagging thing after another, I think its realistic that he will come back just fine. Staying with the Colts is probably every bit as much of a factor at this point as the knee injury is.
JetMaxx
Footballguy
Hadn't thought about him being Deckers replacement.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Even if he's past the point of making a huge impact, I think teams would be lining up for the guy if Indy cuts him. Wayne is a consummate professional -- he'd be a great mentor for any team's younger WRs as well as his reliability as a possession WR.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
4 million is not a lot of money for a quality wide receiver. Indy would be wise to keep him at that price.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Agreed. With the deep threat capabilities of their young WRs, all the Colts need to round out their WR corps is a reliable possession guy, and Wayne could still be the guy.
shader
Footballguy
I think that if Wayne's knee can come back to full strength, he should definitely come back. He doesn't have to come back and carry the load. But he can come back and be a very good complimentary receiver. If they can bolster that defense, he could win a super bowl, so I see no reason why he would consider retiring.
Sweet Love
IBL Representative
He'd have to do it to a certain extent of rehab (say 70% of the work) even if he was just a Customer Service Rep in a call center somewhere. So the real question is, does he want to put back the extra effort to get back to where he was? He's worked out every off-season since he was probably 16, so I don't really see that stopping 20 years later (and certainly in the first year).
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Bang, Bang, Bang, and Bang. I agree with all of this.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I'm not sure teams would be lining up to sign him he were released. After the 2011 season (when he was 33), he hit the free agent market and did not get a ton of interest. The Pats made him an offer, yet he took less money to stay with Indy ($3 years, $17.5 million if he played out the contract). It's 2 years later and he's coming off a major injury. He could probably help a team, but he would likely have to settle for a one year deal for low dollars. He might be open to that, but that remains to be seen.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Reggie Wayne to naysayers: 'You guys motivate me'
On the same day Indianapolis Colts quarterback Andrew Luck called Reggie Wayne a "freak in terms of health and what he can do at his age," the veteran receiver promised his surgically rebuilt knee wouldn't hold him back in 2014.
"You can believe I'm that dog that keeps jumping over the fence," Wayne told reporters Friday at a charity event, per The Indianapolis Star
"You guys say that I can't do it. I'm 35. I'm over the hill. No way I can come back the same," said the 13-year veteran. "I wasn't a big newspaper reader, but I've become one. Next time I read it, maybe you'll be saying I've found the fountain of youth."
Wayne spoke repeatedly of his "naysayers," telling the group: "It's you guys. You guys motivate me."
Wayne also has his believers, including Luck, who knows firsthand what losing the Pro Bowl wideout in October meant for Indy's passing game. With Wayne back in the mix alongside T.Y. Hilton and the newly signed Hakeem Nicks, the Colts are well-equipped to assault teams through the air.
It's not just the starting wave. Wayne's absence also led to increased snaps for LaVon Brazill, Griff Whalen and the intriguing <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" data-cke-saved-href="http://www.nfl.com/player/da" href="http://www.nfl.com/player/da" rickrogers="" 2540179="" profile"="">Da'Rick Rogers. The Colts are deep at the position, not to mention Indy's pair of pass-catching tight ends in Coby Fleener and the returning Dwayne Allen.
Add it all up, and this passing game has the chance to make some serious noise in the AFC.
- By Marc Sessler
- Around the League Writer
- Published: April 18, 2014 at 07:58 p.m.
- Updated: April 19, 2014 at 01:49 p.m.
On the same day Indianapolis Colts quarterback Andrew Luck called Reggie Wayne a "freak in terms of health and what he can do at his age," the veteran receiver promised his surgically rebuilt knee wouldn't hold him back in 2014.
"You can believe I'm that dog that keeps jumping over the fence," Wayne told reporters Friday at a charity event, per The Indianapolis Star
"You guys say that I can't do it. I'm 35. I'm over the hill. No way I can come back the same," said the 13-year veteran. "I wasn't a big newspaper reader, but I've become one. Next time I read it, maybe you'll be saying I've found the fountain of youth."
Wayne spoke repeatedly of his "naysayers," telling the group: "It's you guys. You guys motivate me."
Wayne also has his believers, including Luck, who knows firsthand what losing the Pro Bowl wideout in October meant for Indy's passing game. With Wayne back in the mix alongside T.Y. Hilton and the newly signed Hakeem Nicks, the Colts are well-equipped to assault teams through the air.
It's not just the starting wave. Wayne's absence also led to increased snaps for LaVon Brazill, Griff Whalen and the intriguing <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" data-cke-saved-href="http://www.nfl.com/player/da" href="http://www.nfl.com/player/da" rickrogers="" 2540179="" profile"="">Da'Rick Rogers. The Colts are deep at the position, not to mention Indy's pair of pass-catching tight ends in Coby Fleener and the returning Dwayne Allen.
Add it all up, and this passing game has the chance to make some serious noise in the AFC.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Even if he came back perfectly fine, 100% (which will NOT happen), he will still have an improved Hilton and newly acquired Nicks either in front of him at in a best case scenario sharing targets.
I would certainly sell if you are either getting some sort of value straight up or using him to upgrade another player a bit. Pretty easy decision for me
I would certainly sell if you are either getting some sort of value straight up or using him to upgrade another player a bit. Pretty easy decision for me
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Touchdown There
Footballguy
Probably end his career like Donald Driver. Vet w reduced snaps.Is there a player in history who didn't say the exact same things?
I wish him luckbut he's a long shot.
Phlash
Footballguy
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WaynRe00/gamelog/2013/
Only one game with less than 5 catches (4/58 vs 49ers). It's not like T.Y. Hilton was exactly consistent, in real life or in fantasy. Andrew is going to lean on Reggie again when he's back next year. T.Y. is extremely good in the #2 speedster role (and is a decent #1, but not the polished guy Reggie is). He could put in another 1200 yard season this year, and if he's starting in the preseason, I'd buy hard.
Only one game with less than 5 catches (4/58 vs 49ers). It's not like T.Y. Hilton was exactly consistent, in real life or in fantasy. Andrew is going to lean on Reggie again when he's back next year. T.Y. is extremely good in the #2 speedster role (and is a decent #1, but not the polished guy Reggie is). He could put in another 1200 yard season this year, and if he's starting in the preseason, I'd buy hard.
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cstu
Footballguy
Nicks is a big upgrade over DHB and Allen is back. If Luck is who he's supposed to be he's going to spread the ball around and not lean on any particular player.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Luck is what his OC allows him to be. This was obvious last year when Hamilton tried to pound the running game to no avail. Once Luck had the reigns taken off, he was able to find success AND failures.With that said, if Wayne comes to camp healthy, he will be Luck's go-to guy. I'd venture a guess that there aren't 5 guys in the league who have come to camp in better shape than Wayne during his career.
Nicks is a big upgrade over DHB and Allen is back. If Luck is who he's supposed to be he's going to spread the ball around and not lean on any particular player.
Shutout
Footballguy
You can't say he will be less than 100%. But even at 90%, he is probably 50% healthier than nicks at any given time and about 30% more reliable as a pass catcher than Hilton or any other wr they have.
It's so popular to write off guys as they age but Wayne has shown nothing except production. He's not a typical guy that was good and just diminishes, he is a HOF type player who has been durable, reliable, and professional. He is going to be a lot more valuable in fantasy than a lot of people say.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Pretty much agree with this. Wayne has never relied on elite physical traits to be great -- he's a technician who gets by on savvy, knowledge, and route running. I wouldn't be surprised to see him lead the Colts in targets. Nicks hasn't been good since 2011 -- sure, he could turn it around in a new situation, but it's probably more likely he's just not the same player he was anymore.Shutout said:
Banger
Footballguy
Age is one thing but injury at an older age is another. His role will depend on how good he is. I wouldn't expect him to disappear but there are more and better mouths to feed from a year ago when Wayne was good.Shutout said:
I think the days of the Luck to Wayne show are over and it's highly unlikely that I would have him on any of my teams.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
It's a wide open race in Indy. Wayne isn't the lead dog anymore, just one of 4 potential top guys in that offense. TY Hilton showed well, obviously Nicks has played at a high level but not recently, Da'rick Rogers has all the tools to emerge, and obviously they could add talent.
I have them all bumped back in my rankings to account for the uncertainty.
I have them all bumped back in my rankings to account for the uncertainty.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
I wish him the best, but it is an uphill battle.
Faust
MVP
Rotoworld:
Reggie Wayne - WR - Colts
ESPN Colts blogger Mike Wells expects Reggie Wayne (ACL) to sit out next month's minicamp.
Speaking last month, Wayne proclaimed himself "way ahead of schedule," but there's no incentive for him to go full steam before training camp. Wayne is expected to be ready for Week 1.
Source: ESPN.com
May 26 - 2:45 PM
Reggie Wayne - WR - Colts
ESPN Colts blogger Mike Wells expects Reggie Wayne (ACL) to sit out next month's minicamp.
Speaking last month, Wayne proclaimed himself "way ahead of schedule," but there's no incentive for him to go full steam before training camp. Wayne is expected to be ready for Week 1.
Source: ESPN.com
May 26 - 2:45 PM
Sinrman
Footballguy
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Man, I love this kind of stuff. I can get a WR2 at WR4 prices.
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
Reggie Wayne - WR - Colts
Reggie Wayne (ACL) said he's passed a physical and been cleared for camp.
Wayne is nine months removed from his tear and was reportedly ahead of schedule throughout his rehab process. He'll be gradually eased into camp work with an eye toward functioning as Andrew Luck's security blanket and possession receiver come Week 1. At 35 years old and playing in Pep Hamilton's stubbornly run-heavy scheme, there's not much upside here on Wayne's seventh-round ADP.
Source: Kevin Bowen on Twitter
Jul 23 - 10:45 AM
Reggie Wayne (ACL) said he's passed a physical and been cleared for camp.
Wayne is nine months removed from his tear and was reportedly ahead of schedule throughout his rehab process. He'll be gradually eased into camp work with an eye toward functioning as Andrew Luck's security blanket and possession receiver come Week 1. At 35 years old and playing in Pep Hamilton's stubbornly run-heavy scheme, there's not much upside here on Wayne's seventh-round ADP.
Source: Kevin Bowen on Twitter
Jul 23 - 10:45 AM
steveski
Footballguy
I haven't been able to pull the trigger on him in any drafts so far. I'd imagine it's not very quick/easy to recover from such a devastating injury at that age. Your body just flat out doesn't recover as fast even if you do everything right. Plus, he's made his living being an elite route runner. I don't see him making fluid cuts on a knee that is less than 100%.
I'm rooting for the guy but I couldn't take him over someone like Sammy or Kendall Wright and it usually comes down to deciding between guys like that.
I'm rooting for the guy but I couldn't take him over someone like Sammy or Kendall Wright and it usually comes down to deciding between guys like that.
