AP is a freak of nature though.People can rehab from a torn ACL in 10/11 months, AP did it in 7.5.
Reggie Wayne (torn ACL, injured reserve) expects to resume running in mid-January, and plans to go "full throttle" in four and a half months.
It's an aggressive timeline that could have Wayne ready for training camp if he avoids setbacks. It's still very early in his rehab, however. Wayne went down 51 days ago. Working in Wayne's favor is the fact that he had been remarkably durable up until his October injury, having not missed a game since his rookie season in 2001. Wayne is signed for an affordable $4 million in 2014.
Source: Mike Chappell on Twitter
Reggie Wayne said "so far, so good" when asked about the progress of his knee rehab.
Wayne tore his right ACL on October 20. "I'm very, very, very confident that I can come back better than I was," he said Monday. It's an unrealistic expectation as the 35-year-old Wayne was already showing signs of decline, especially with his long speed and big-play ability. Returning as a reliable possession receiver to complement breakout stud T.Y. Hilton is a more reasonable expectation.
Source: George Bremer on Twitter
Hadn't thought about him being Deckers replacement.People can rehab from a torn ACL in 10/11 months, AP did it in 7.5.
He doesn't appear to have that personality to just hang it up like that, nor have I read anywhere that he was contemplating retirement - Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if he signed for the veterans minimum in Denver next year.
He'd have to do it to a certain extent of rehab (say 70% of the work) even if he was just a Customer Service Rep in a call center somewhere. So the real question is, does he want to put back the extra effort to get back to where he was? He's worked out every off-season since he was probably 16, so I don't really see that stopping 20 years later (and certainly in the first year).AP is a freak of nature though.People can rehab from a torn ACL in 10/11 months, AP did it in 7.5.
Reggie is obviously a gamer, but doesn't have anything to prove and he's got a Super Bowl ring. Not sure what the incentive is for him to go through an arduous rehab to get back on the field.
I really hope he comes back, because the Colts sure need him. That is evident.He'd have to do it to a certain extent of rehab (say 70% of the work) even if he was just a Customer Service Rep in a call center somewhere. So the real question is, does he want to put back the extra effort to get back to where he was? He's worked out every off-season since he was probably 16, so I don't really see that stopping 20 years later (and certainly in the first year).AP is a freak of nature though.People can rehab from a torn ACL in 10/11 months, AP did it in 7.5.
Reggie is obviously a gamer, but doesn't have anything to prove and he's got a Super Bowl ring. Not sure what the incentive is for him to go through an arduous rehab to get back on the field.
Even if he's past the point of making a huge impact, I think teams would be lining up for the guy if Indy cuts him. Wayne is a consummate professional -- he'd be a great mentor for any team's younger WRs as well as his reliability as a possession WR.
4 million is not a lot of money for a quality wide receiver. Indy would be wise to keep him at that price.
Agreed. With the deep threat capabilities of their young WRs, all the Colts need to round out their WR corps is a reliable possession guy, and Wayne could still be the guy.
Bang, Bang, Bang, and Bang. I agree with all of this.I think that if Wayne's knee can come back to full strength, he should definitely come back. He doesn't have to come back and carry the load. But he can come back and be a very good complimentary receiver. If they can bolster that defense, he could win a super bowl, so I see no reason why he would consider retiring.
menobrown said:There is no way the Colts are going to release him. Forget about it. He might work out a pay restructure but he's not going anywhere. He's a huge team leader and most of all they need him. He has more value to the Colts than any other team.
Agreed.Wayne turns 36 next November. I could see him having a Marvin Harrison-like 60-636-5 next year, but that's about it.
As a Colts and Wayne fan, I certainly hope he comes back strong.Reggie Wayne to naysayers: 'You guys motivate me'
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000342343/article/reggie-wayne-to-naysayers-you-guys-motivate-me
- By Marc Sessler
- Around the League Writer
- Published: April 18, 2014 at 07:58 p.m.
- Updated: April 19, 2014 at 01:49 p.m.
On the same day Indianapolis Colts quarterback Andrew Luck called Reggie Wayne a "freak in terms of health and what he can do at his age," the veteran receiver promised his surgically rebuilt knee wouldn't hold him back in 2014.
"You can believe I'm that dog that keeps jumping over the fence," Wayne told reporters Friday at a charity event, per The Indianapolis Star
"You guys say that I can't do it. I'm 35. I'm over the hill. No way I can come back the same," said the 13-year veteran. "I wasn't a big newspaper reader, but I've become one. Next time I read it, maybe you'll be saying I've found the fountain of youth."
Wayne spoke repeatedly of his "naysayers," telling the group: "It's you guys. You guys motivate me."
Wayne also has his believers, including Luck, who knows firsthand what losing the Pro Bowl wideout in October meant for Indy's passing game. With Wayne back in the mix alongside T.Y. Hilton and the newly signed Hakeem Nicks, the Colts are well-equipped to assault teams through the air.
It's not just the starting wave. Wayne's absence also led to increased snaps for LaVon Brazill, Griff Whalen and the intriguing <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" data-cke-saved-href="http://www.nfl.com/player/da" href="http://www.nfl.com/player/da" rickrogers="" 2540179="" profile"="">Da'Rick Rogers. The Colts are deep at the position, not to mention Indy's pair of pass-catching tight ends in Coby Fleener and the returning Dwayne Allen.
Add it all up, and this passing game has the chance to make some serious noise in the AFC.
Is there a player in history who didn't say the exact same things?On the same day Indianapolis Colts quarterback Andrew Luck called Reggie Wayne a "freak in terms of health and what he can do at his age," the veteran receiver promised his surgically rebuilt knee wouldn't hold him back in 2014.
"You can believe I'm that dog that keeps jumping over the fence," Wayne told reporters Friday at a charity event, per The Indianapolis Star
"You guys say that I can't do it. I'm 35. I'm over the hill. No way I can come back the same," said the 13-year veteran. "I wasn't a big newspaper reader, but I've become one. Next time I read it, maybe you'll be saying I've found the fountain of youth."
Wayne spoke repeatedly of his "naysayers," telling the group: "It's you guys. You guys motivate me."
Probably end his career like Donald Driver. Vet w reduced snaps.Is there a player in history who didn't say the exact same things?
On the same day Indianapolis Colts quarterback Andrew Luck called Reggie Wayne a "freak in terms of health and what he can do at his age," the veteran receiver promised his surgically rebuilt knee wouldn't hold him back in 2014.
"You can believe I'm that dog that keeps jumping over the fence," Wayne told reporters Friday at a charity event, per The Indianapolis Star
"You guys say that I can't do it. I'm 35. I'm over the hill. No way I can come back the same," said the 13-year veteran. "I wasn't a big newspaper reader, but I've become one. Next time I read it, maybe you'll be saying I've found the fountain of youth."
Wayne spoke repeatedly of his "naysayers," telling the group: "It's you guys. You guys motivate me."
I wish him luck but he's a long shot.
Nicks is a big upgrade over DHB and Allen is back. If Luck is who he's supposed to be he's going to spread the ball around and not lean on any particular player.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WaynRe00/gamelog/2013/
Only one game with less than 5 catches (4/58 vs 49ers). It's not like T.Y. Hilton was exactly consistent, in real life or in fantasy. Andrew is going to lean on Reggie again when he's back next year. T.Y. is extremely good in the #2 speedster role (and is a decent #1, but not the polished guy Reggie is). He could put in another 1200 yard season this year, and if he's starting in the preseason, I'd buy hard.
Luck is what his OC allows him to be. This was obvious last year when Hamilton tried to pound the running game to no avail. Once Luck had the reigns taken off, he was able to find success AND failures.With that said, if Wayne comes to camp healthy, he will be Luck's go-to guy. I'd venture a guess that there aren't 5 guys in the league who have come to camp in better shape than Wayne during his career.Nicks is a big upgrade over DHB and Allen is back. If Luck is who he's supposed to be he's going to spread the ball around and not lean on any particular player.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WaynRe00/gamelog/2013/
Only one game with less than 5 catches (4/58 vs 49ers). It's not like T.Y. Hilton was exactly consistent, in real life or in fantasy. Andrew is going to lean on Reggie again when he's back next year. T.Y. is extremely good in the #2 speedster role (and is a decent #1, but not the polished guy Reggie is). He could put in another 1200 yard season this year, and if he's starting in the preseason, I'd buy hard.
You can't say he will be less than 100%. But even at 90%, he is probably 50% healthier than nicks at any given time and about 30% more reliable as a pass catcher than Hilton or any other wr they have.Even if he came back perfectly fine, 100% (which will NOT happen), he will still have an improved Hilton and newly acquired Nicks either in front of him at in a best case scenario sharing targets.
I would certainly sell if you are either getting some sort of value straight up or using him to upgrade another player a bit. Pretty easy decision for me
Pretty much agree with this. Wayne has never relied on elite physical traits to be great -- he's a technician who gets by on savvy, knowledge, and route running. I wouldn't be surprised to see him lead the Colts in targets. Nicks hasn't been good since 2011 -- sure, he could turn it around in a new situation, but it's probably more likely he's just not the same player he was anymore.Shutout said:You can't say he will be less than 100%. But even at 90%, he is probably 50% healthier than nicks at any given time and about 30% more reliable as a pass catcher than Hilton or any other wr they have.It's so popular to write off guys as they age but Wayne has shown nothing except production. He's not a typical guy that was good and just diminishes, he is a HOF type player who has been durable, reliable, and professional. He is going to be a lot more valuable in fantasy than a lot of people say.Even if he came back perfectly fine, 100% (which will NOT happen), he will still have an improved Hilton and newly acquired Nicks either in front of him at in a best case scenario sharing targets.
I would certainly sell if you are either getting some sort of value straight up or using him to upgrade another player a bit. Pretty easy decision for me
Age is one thing but injury at an older age is another. His role will depend on how good he is. I wouldn't expect him to disappear but there are more and better mouths to feed from a year ago when Wayne was good.Shutout said:You can't say he will be less than 100%. But even at 90%, he is probably 50% healthier than nicks at any given time and about 30% more reliable as a pass catcher than Hilton or any other wr they have.It's so popular to write off guys as they age but Wayne has shown nothing except production. He's not a typical guy that was good and just diminishes, he is a HOF type player who has been durable, reliable, and professional. He is going to be a lot more valuable in fantasy than a lot of people say.Even if he came back perfectly fine, 100% (which will NOT happen), he will still have an improved Hilton and newly acquired Nicks either in front of him at in a best case scenario sharing targets.
I would certainly sell if you are either getting some sort of value straight up or using him to upgrade another player a bit. Pretty easy decision for me
Rotoworld:
Reggie Wayne - WR - Colts
ESPN Colts blogger Mike Wells expects Reggie Wayne (ACL) to sit out next month's minicamp.
Speaking last month, Wayne proclaimed himself "way ahead of schedule," but there's no incentive for him to go full steam before training camp. Wayne is expected to be ready for Week 1.
Source: ESPN.com
May 26 - 2:45 PM
Colts coach Chuck Pagano would be "shocked" if Reggie Wayne (ACL) wasn't ready for training camp.
The Colts have held Wayne out of OTAs, but he's been cleared for football activities. Indy has zero incentive to rush its veteran stalwart, but it sounds like there will be no reason to keep the training wheels on once camp rolls around. Fantasy players can draft Wayne as if he'll be 100 percent for Week 1.
Source: Phillip Wilson on Twitter