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Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.

 
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
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Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.

 
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
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Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.
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Also, it works quickly and victims are most infectious when they are most sick. Those people typically can't travel.

 
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
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Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.
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Luckily doctors don't touch people when they treat them and there are zero cases of care takers being infected and trying to come back to the US.

Oh. Wait...

 
TheIronSheik said:
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
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Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.
Click to expand...
Luckily doctors don't touch people when they treat them and there are zero cases of care takers being infected and trying to come back to the US.

Oh. Wait...
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Doctors without Borders amongst others has been treating Ebola patients for years. The disease is still confined. Oh and doctors have access to these things called disposable gloves for when they touch people. Even in Africa. Weird huh?

 
Abraham said:
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
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Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.
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Well, not yet it isn't.
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If Ebola goes airborne then things will get very real, very quickly. I imagine you'd see some kind of quarantine rule for anyone returning from an infected area.

 
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
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Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.
Click to expand...
Luckily doctors don't touch people when they treat them and there are zero cases of care takers being infected and trying to come back to the US.

Oh. Wait...
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Doctors without Borders amongst others has been treating Ebola patients for years. The disease is still confined. Oh and doctors have access to these things called disposable gloves for when they touch people. Even in Africa. Weird huh?
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Again, thank God we never have to worry about someone trying to come back to the US with it then.

Oh. Wait...

 
NCCommish said:
Abraham said:
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
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Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.
Click to expand...
Well, not yet it isn't.
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If Ebola goes airborne then things will get very real, very quickly. I imagine you'd see some kind of quarantine rule for anyone returning from an infected area.
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Oh, I imagine carpet bombing villages would preempt any quarantine. Like in Outbreak.

 
My wife does international public health work and will travel to Africa twice in the next 2 months.

How worried should I be?

 
Abraham said:
NCCommish said:
Abraham said:
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
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Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.
Click to expand...
Well, not yet it isn't.
Click to expand...
If Ebola goes airborne then things will get very real, very quickly. I imagine you'd see some kind of quarantine rule for anyone returning from an infected area.
Click to expand...
Oh, I imagine carpet bombing villages would preempt any quarantine. Like in Outbreak.
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No. Not going to happen. Wouldn't stop anything anyway. If it went airborne may as well nuke the planet from space to be sure. It would spread through Africa like a wildfire and be on international flights in days. Long before we realized what was happening probably. Remember it takes time to show itself.

 
gianmarco said:
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
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Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.
Click to expand...
Also, it works quickly and victims are most infectious when they are most sick. Those people typically can't travel.
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i.e. it kills people pretty damn fast.

 
wdcrob said:
gianmarco said:
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
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Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.
Click to expand...
Also, it works quickly and victims are most infectious when they are most sick. Those people typically can't travel.
Click to expand...
i.e. it kills people pretty damn fast.
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It kills somewhere between 50 and 90 percent of those thast contract it. It can take from 13 to 25 days after infection for it to present symptoms though.

 
NCCommish said:
wdcrob said:
gianmarco said:
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
Click to expand...
Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.
Click to expand...
Also, it works quickly and victims are most infectious when they are most sick. Those people typically can't travel.
Click to expand...
i.e. it kills people pretty damn fast.
Click to expand...
It kills somewhere between 50 and 90 percent of those thast contract it. It can take from 13 to 25 days after infection for it to present symptoms though.
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Are people contagious during that time?

 
timschochet said:
NCCommish said:
Henry Ford said:
NCCommish said:
Baloney Sandwich said:
If you had I choose between Tim and Ebola, which one would you choose?
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As I said in another thread I'll take Tim over Ebola and Ayn Rand.
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But what about Ebola without Ayn Rand?
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Tim edges out Ebola on it's own. I admit it I like the guy. He can be frustrating at times but who here isn't?
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Nice to know I edge out Ebola. Guess it was a close race?
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You were starting pull away at the end. Nice kick.

 
Dan Gladden said:
NCCommish said:
wdcrob said:
gianmarco said:
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
Click to expand...
Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.
Click to expand...
Also, it works quickly and victims are most infectious when they are most sick. Those people typically can't travel.
Click to expand...
i.e. it kills people pretty damn fast.
Click to expand...
It kills somewhere between 50 and 90 percent of those thast contract it. It can take from 13 to 25 days after infection for it to present symptoms though.
Click to expand...
Are people contagious during that time?
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Basically you are contagious once it is in your bloodstream. And even after being cured men can still transmit it in their semen for up to two months.

The main way an outbreak starts is through contact with infected animals. Especially fruit bats but also monkeys, gorillas, certain antelope, pigs and a few others. It crosses to a person that handles the infected animal and then they spread it human to human. Large scale outbreaks like a pandemic would be hard in it's current form it mostly kills and does so quickly. In a first world nation it's hard to imagine it getting far in it's current form. An interesting side note there are people who are immune. It requires a certain protein that transports cholesterol to gain entry. In some people that protein is mutated. It makes them pretty much immune if the studies are to be believed.

 
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NCCommish said:
Dan Gladden said:
NCCommish said:
wdcrob said:
gianmarco said:
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
Click to expand...
Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.
Click to expand...
Also, it works quickly and victims are most infectious when they are most sick. Those people typically can't travel.
Click to expand...
i.e. it kills people pretty damn fast.
Click to expand...
It kills somewhere between 50 and 90 percent of those thast contract it. It can take from 13 to 25 days after infection for it to present symptoms though.
Click to expand...
Are people contagious during that time?
Click to expand...
Basically you are contagious once it is in your bloodstream. And even after being cured men can still transmit it in their semen for up to two months.

The main way an outbreak starts is through contact with infected animals. Especially fruit bats but also monkeys, gorillas, certain antelope, pigs and a few others. It crosses to a person that handles the infected animal and then they spread it human to human. Large scale outbreaks like a pandemic would be hard in it's current form it mostly kills and does so quickly. In a first world nation it's hard to imagine it getting far in it's current form. An interesting side note there are people who are immune. It requires a certain protein that transports cholesterol to gain entry. In some people that protein is mutated. It makes them pretty much immune if the studies are to be believed.
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According to the WHO, you are only contagious once you start showing symptoms.
The incubation period, or the time interval from infection to onset of symptoms, is from 2 to 21 days. The patients become contagious once they begin to show symptoms. They are not contagious during the incubation period.
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http://www.who.int/csr/disease/ebola/faq-ebola/en/

 
sporthenry said:
NCCommish said:
Dan Gladden said:
NCCommish said:
wdcrob said:
gianmarco said:
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
Click to expand...
Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.
Click to expand...
Also, it works quickly and victims are most infectious when they are most sick. Those people typically can't travel.
Click to expand...
i.e. it kills people pretty damn fast.
Click to expand...
It kills somewhere between 50 and 90 percent of those thast contract it. It can take from 13 to 25 days after infection for it to present symptoms though.
Click to expand...
Are people contagious during that time?
Click to expand...
Basically you are contagious once it is in your bloodstream. And even after being cured men can still transmit it in their semen for up to two months.

The main way an outbreak starts is through contact with infected animals. Especially fruit bats but also monkeys, gorillas, certain antelope, pigs and a few others. It crosses to a person that handles the infected animal and then they spread it human to human. Large scale outbreaks like a pandemic would be hard in it's current form it mostly kills and does so quickly. In a first world nation it's hard to imagine it getting far in it's current form. An interesting side note there are people who are immune. It requires a certain protein that transports cholesterol to gain entry. In some people that protein is mutated. It makes them pretty much immune if the studies are to be believed.
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According to the WHO, you are only contagious once you start showing symptoms.
The incubation period, or the time interval from infection to onset of symptoms, is from 2 to 21 days. The patients become contagious once they begin to show symptoms. They are not contagious during the incubation period.
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http://www.who.int/csr/disease/ebola/faq-ebola/en/
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Right. It's this fact that keeps it from coming across on planes. When people are contagious is when they're most sick. And when they're most sick, they ain't flying.

 
Just wanted to get a post in here before this goes global and brings an end to civilization.

 
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Really now. Do we need a human instruction manual that says, "Don't #### a fruit bat?"

Don't play dumb, either. You know who I'm talking to.

#didntmeanit #itwasconsensual #doesthismakemeafruit? #prettysureitsafemale

 
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sporthenry said:
NCCommish said:
Dan Gladden said:
NCCommish said:
wdcrob said:
gianmarco said:
NCCommish said:
TheIronSheik said:
Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101.
Click to expand...
Because it is relatively easy to prevent infection with proper procedures and it is hard to pass because you have to get their bodily fluids in your system somehow for it to infect you. It isn't airborne.
Click to expand...
Also, it works quickly and victims are most infectious when they are most sick. Those people typically can't travel.
Click to expand...
i.e. it kills people pretty damn fast.
Click to expand...
It kills somewhere between 50 and 90 percent of those thast contract it. It can take from 13 to 25 days after infection for it to present symptoms though.
Click to expand...
Are people contagious during that time?
Click to expand...
Basically you are contagious once it is in your bloodstream. And even after being cured men can still transmit it in their semen for up to two months.

The main way an outbreak starts is through contact with infected animals. Especially fruit bats but also monkeys, gorillas, certain antelope, pigs and a few others. It crosses to a person that handles the infected animal and then they spread it human to human. Large scale outbreaks like a pandemic would be hard in it's current form it mostly kills and does so quickly. In a first world nation it's hard to imagine it getting far in it's current form. An interesting side note there are people who are immune. It requires a certain protein that transports cholesterol to gain entry. In some people that protein is mutated. It makes them pretty much immune if the studies are to be believed.
Click to expand...
According to the WHO, you are only contagious once you start showing symptoms.
The incubation period, or the time interval from infection to onset of symptoms, is from 2 to 21 days. The patients become contagious once they begin to show symptoms. They are not contagious during the incubation period.
Click to expand...
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/ebola/faq-ebola/en/
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Well I will of course bow to the WHO expertise. I was under the impression that if it is in your blood you can pass it on. As I said men can pass it on in their sperm for up to 2 months after no longer showing symptoms. That has been proven in the lab.

 
No need to worry, they'll pray it away.

Dr. Dahn pointed out that people infected of the virus are being kept in door by churches on ground that they (patient) can be healed through prayer.

According to her, since the outbreak of the virus, many churches have considered the epidemic to be more spiritual rather than being medical.
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Link

 
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Cliff Clavin said:
No need to worry, they'll pray it away.

Dr. Dahn pointed out that people infected of the virus are being kept in door by churches on ground that they (patient) can be healed through prayer.

According to her, since the outbreak of the virus, many churches have considered the epidemic to be more spiritual rather than being medical.
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Link
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Same thing you see with AIDs.

 
NCCommish said:
Cliff Clavin said:
No need to worry, they'll pray it away.

Dr. Dahn pointed out that people infected of the virus are being kept in door by churches on ground that they (patient) can be healed through prayer.

According to her, since the outbreak of the virus, many churches have considered the epidemic to be more spiritual rather than being medical.
Click to expand...
Link
Click to expand...
Same thing you see with AIDs.
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Although in South Africa they believe showers cure AIDS too (it you do it straight after sex)...

 
msommer said:
NCCommish said:
Cliff Clavin said:
No need to worry, they'll pray it away.

Dr. Dahn pointed out that people infected of the virus are being kept in door by churches on ground that they (patient) can be healed through prayer.

According to her, since the outbreak of the virus, many churches have considered the epidemic to be more spiritual rather than being medical.
Click to expand...
Link
Click to expand...
Same thing you see with AIDs.
Click to expand...
Although in South Africa they believe showers cure AIDS too (it you do it straight after sex)...
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In South Africa they also believe having unprotected sex with a virgin will cure you.

 
msommer said:
NCCommish said:
Cliff Clavin said:
No need to worry, they'll pray it away.

Dr. Dahn pointed out that people infected of the virus are being kept in door by churches on ground that they (patient) can be healed through prayer.

According to her, since the outbreak of the virus, many churches have considered the epidemic to be more spiritual rather than being medical.
Click to expand...
Link
Click to expand...
Same thing you see with AIDs.
Click to expand...
Although in South Africa they believe showers cure AIDS too (it you do it straight after sex)...
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Seems more plausible than prayer.

 
NCCommish said:
msommer said:
NCCommish said:
Cliff Clavin said:
No need to worry, they'll pray it away.

Dr. Dahn pointed out that people infected of the virus are being kept in door by churches on ground that they (patient) can be healed through prayer.

According to her, since the outbreak of the virus, many churches have considered the epidemic to be more spiritual rather than being medical.
Click to expand...
Link
Click to expand...
Same thing you see with AIDs.
Click to expand...
Although in South Africa they believe showers cure AIDS too (it you do it straight after sex)...
Click to expand...
In South Africa they also believe having unprotected sex with a virgin will cure you.
Click to expand...
So you're saying this doesn't work.

 
The General said:
NCCommish said:
msommer said:
NCCommish said:
Cliff Clavin said:
No need to worry, they'll pray it away.

Dr. Dahn pointed out that people infected of the virus are being kept in door by churches on ground that they (patient) can be healed through prayer.

According to her, since the outbreak of the virus, many churches have considered the epidemic to be more spiritual rather than being medical.
Click to expand...
Link
Click to expand...
Same thing you see with AIDs.
Click to expand...
Although in South Africa they believe showers cure AIDS too (it you do it straight after sex)...
Click to expand...
In South Africa they also believe having unprotected sex with a virgin will cure you.
Click to expand...
So you're saying this doesn't work.
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Not to date.

 
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