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2015 / 2016 Devy Prospects (1 Viewer)

I am dealing with HS prospects. Ppl already own Fournette and Mixon and Hood. Hoping this thread turns up some quality choices

 
I am dealing with HS prospects. Ppl already own Fournette and Mixon and Hood. Hoping this thread turns up some quality choices
I posted some Khalfani Muhammad highlights on one of my old YouTube channels. Short player, but very very fast.

I will throw up some Damore'ea Stringfellow highlights sometime soon.

I don't think either of those guys is obviously worthy of a high dev pick at the moment, but they're two reasonably promising Pac-12 freshmen who won't be on the radar of a lot of the national pundits yet.

 
I am dealing with HS prospects. Ppl already own Fournette and Mixon and Hood. Hoping this thread turns up some quality choices
I posted some Khalfani Muhammad highlights on one of my old YouTube channels. Short player, but very very fast.

I will throw up some Damore'ea Stringfellow highlights sometime soon.

I don't think either of those guys is obviously worthy of a high dev pick at the moment, but they're two reasonably promising Pac-12 freshmen who won't be on the radar of a lot of the national pundits yet.
I've got Stringfellow in a college keeper league (that I believe I was in with you several years ago), and I like him too. He played well when given chances this year, and he should get a lot more next year.

Another deep guy I'm holding onto in that one is Marcell Ateman from OSU. He did not see much time this year as a true freshman, but should get more next year. 6'4" and I was sold on him after reading some articles comparing him to Dez Bryant over the summer.

 
JohnnyU said:
I'm doing 2 devy auctions later this off-season in a super flex league. I expect Jameis to be the most expensive player in both. One is a new league, so everyone will be available. The other is a year old and Cooper, Gurley, Yeldon and others are gone.
Can multiple QBs start in your Super Flex leagues? If not, I just don't see a QB being the most expensive.
Yep, start 1 QB with another possible starting QB in the super flex spot.

 
I am dealing with HS prospects. Ppl already own Fournette and Mixon and Hood. Hoping this thread turns up some quality choices
I posted some Khalfani Muhammad highlights on one of my old YouTube channels. Short player, but very very fast.

I will throw up some Damore'ea Stringfellow highlights sometime soon.

I don't think either of those guys is obviously worthy of a high dev pick at the moment, but they're two reasonably promising Pac-12 freshmen who won't be on the radar of a lot of the national pundits yet.
I've got Stringfellow in a college keeper league (that I believe I was in with you several years ago), and I like him too. He played well when given chances this year, and he should get a lot more next year.
Here is his game against BYU:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl-KG_09svU

Nothing too impressive. Just some catch-and-runs. I have some doubts about his mobility/explosiveness, but he's already listed at 6'3" 225 and seems like he can move around a little bit. Good guy to take a flyer on late if you're in one of those super deep devy drafts. Maybe a year from now he will look like a pretty good prospect.

 
Thanks a bunch.... At the moment. Without saying who all is taken.. It looks like Winston or Damien Harris or Jamambo (both HS) at #2 pick for me in august....

 
On guy picked up Barry Sanders junior when he was 10.
:lol:

Man, it pains me a little bit because I'm a Stanford fan and I hope that he becomes a great player, but that poor kid has become so overrated in Internet circles because of the name on the back of his jersey. You're probably better off with Trey Griffey.

 
Keep an eye on incoming HS WR Speedy Noil at Texas A&M.

Composite 5 star, destroyed in his all star game last week ( Under Armor? )

Early enrollee so he'll go thru spring ball.

Mike Evans is gone so that leaves a bunch of JAGS on the A&M roster excluding Seals Jones.

Noil can play all 4 positions and should see the field early, very excited to see him.

 
I wanted to post this in the other Devy thread, but I'll just continue the Devy talk here. I don't know how important youth and age are to some of you, but it really puts things in perspective when looking at current year and future prospects. Been researching ages on a few guys.

Here are some birthdates to consider:

Mike Davis: 2/19/1993

Tre Mason: 8/6/1993

TJ Yeldon: 10/2/1993

Todd Gurley: 8/3/1994

Alex Collins: 8/26/1994

Thomas Tyner: 9/14/1994

Surprised to know how much older Davis is than the other 2015 guys.

Yeldon is only 2 months younger than Mason.

Gurley is 10 months younger than Yeldon.

Gurley is less than a month older than Collins and a month older than Tyner. Wow.

 
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Keep an eye on incoming HS WR Speedy Noil at Texas A&M.

Composite 5 star, destroyed in his all star game last week ( Under Armor? )

Early enrollee so he'll go thru spring ball.

Mike Evans is gone so that leaves a bunch of JAGS on the A&M roster excluding Seals Jones.

Noil can play all 4 positions and should see the field early, very excited to see him.
At 5'10.5" and 176 pounds I can't say I'm excited about his size.

 
There's going to be a "Melvin Gordon" for the 2015 and 2016 eligible class.

There's going to be a TE that's more talented than Eric Ebron for 2015, yet no one is talking about him. There is absolutely no buzz. No, its not Devin Funchess.

 
Keep an eye on incoming HS WR Speedy Noil at Texas A&M.

Composite 5 star, destroyed in his all star game last week ( Under Armor? )

Early enrollee so he'll go thru spring ball.

Mike Evans is gone so that leaves a bunch of JAGS on the A&M roster excluding Seals Jones.

Noil can play all 4 positions and should see the field early, very excited to see him.
At 5'10.5" and 176 pounds I can't say I'm excited about his size.
Noil reminds me A LOT of Odell Beckham.

 
There's going to be a "Melvin Gordon" for the 2015 and 2016 eligible class.

There's going to be a TE that's more talented than Eric Ebron for 2015, yet no one is talking about him. There is absolutely no buzz. No, its not Devin Funchess.
Are you waiting for an invitation to share? Isn't that the point of the thread? I'm confused as to your intent here.

 
There's going to be a "Melvin Gordon" for the 2015 and 2016 eligible class.

There's going to be a TE that's more talented than Eric Ebron for 2015, yet no one is talking about him. There is absolutely no buzz. No, its not Devin Funchess.
Are you waiting for an invitation to share? Isn't that the point of the thread? I'm confused as to your intent here.
I've got leaguemates on FBGs, so I won't publicly reveal their names until August.

 
There's going to be a "Melvin Gordon" for the 2015 and 2016 eligible class.

There's going to be a TE that's more talented than Eric Ebron for 2015, yet no one is talking about him. There is absolutely no buzz. No, its not Devin Funchess.
Are you waiting for an invitation to share? Isn't that the point of the thread? I'm confused as to your intent here.
I've got leaguemates on FBGs, so I won't publicly reveal their names until August.
then your reasoning for bumping this thread now is...?
 
There's going to be a "Melvin Gordon" for the 2015 and 2016 eligible class.

There's going to be a TE that's more talented than Eric Ebron for 2015, yet no one is talking about him. There is absolutely no buzz. No, its not Devin Funchess.
Are you waiting for an invitation to share? Isn't that the point of the thread? I'm confused as to your intent here.
I've got leaguemates on FBGs, so I won't publicly reveal their names until August.
then your reasoning for bumping this thread now is...?
Motivate others to step up their game and identify these players and get them for cheap before they blow up on a national level.

 
Keep an eye on incoming HS WR Speedy Noil at Texas A&M.

Composite 5 star, destroyed in his all star game last week ( Under Armor? )

Early enrollee so he'll go thru spring ball.

Mike Evans is gone so that leaves a bunch of JAGS on the A&M roster excluding Seals Jones.

Noil can play all 4 positions and should see the field early, very excited to see him.
At 5'10.5" and 176 pounds I can't say I'm excited about his size.
Noil reminds me A LOT of Odell Beckham.
They look nothing alike. Beckham is an inch taller and 25 lbs heavier. Not to mention how Beckham catches the ball with those huge 10" hands. He's closer to Antonio Brown, but bigger.

 
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That's all subjective. They look very similar to me. Similar style of running and cutting. Similar bow-legged carriage. They even hail from the same state.

Beckham was 5'11 1/4" 198 at the combine with a 4.38 40, 38.5" vertical, and 3.94 short shuttle.

Noil was 6'0" 176 at the Nike SPARQ testing with a 4.45 40, 44" vertical, and 3.87 short shuttle.

Noil played primarily as an option QB in high school, but he will be a WR in college. With a few years of development, he should come out looking a lot like OBJ in 3-4 years. The athletic framework is there. I think he had the highest SPARQ score of any high school recruit tested last year.

 
Keep an eye on incoming HS WR Speedy Noil at Texas A&M.

Composite 5 star, destroyed in his all star game last week ( Under Armor? )

Early enrollee so he'll go thru spring ball.

Mike Evans is gone so that leaves a bunch of JAGS on the A&M roster excluding Seals Jones.

Noil can play all 4 positions and should see the field early, very excited to see him.
At 5'10.5" and 176 pounds I can't say I'm excited about his size.
Noil reminds me A LOT of Odell Beckham.
They look nothing alike. Beckham is an inch taller and 25 lbs heavier. Not to mention how Beckham catches the ball with those huge 10" hands. He's closer to Antonio Brown, but bigger.
Beckham was listed at a similar weight as a recruit. Plenty of prospects add weight by the time they reach the NFL. Amari Cooper was 185 as a recruit. He's listed at 205 and actually looks thicker than that as of late.

 
Here are their pages on Scout.com:

http://louisianastate.scout.com/a.z?s=107&p=8&c=1&nid=4586850

http://tamu.scout.com/a.z?s=187&p=8&c=1&nid=5851975

They had Beckham at 5'11" 175 as a recruit. If you look at the strengths/weaknesses profiles, they're nearly identical. They have the exact same weaknesses listed and the exact same strengths except Noil has "speed" as a positive and Beckham does not.

Noil is actually a more highly-regarded recruit, being rated as the #7, #19, and #21 player in the country by ESPN, Scout, and Rivals respectively.

 
My experience with high school recruiting rankings is mostly negative. They seem to have a poor success rate, so I haven't ever really used them. Used them as a guideline last year for one pick, but that was really it. Made my pick based off other sources but I got pointed in that direction due to rankings.

Are they getting better than they used to be?

 
Not sure if he's Xue's guy, but Jovon Robinson is a RB who should skyrocket between now and the '16 draft.

 
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My experience with high school recruiting rankings is mostly negative. They seem to have a poor success rate, so I haven't ever really used them. Used them as a guideline last year for one pick, but that was really it. Made my pick based off other sources but I got pointed in that direction due to rankings.

Are they getting better than they used to be?
It's sort of like the draft. They're very hit or miss, but there's a strong correlation between high rankings and eventual success.

Pull up the Rivals 100 from any year and you will see a lot of busts, but also a lot of big names. Far more than random chance would dictate.

I just randomly pulled up their 2008 list. Terrelle Pryor, Julio Jones, AJ Green, Blaine Gabbert, DeVier Posey, Jon Baldwin, Mike Floyd, EJ Manuel, and Ryan Williams all in the top 50. That's pretty impressive. They keep close tabs on these kids nowadays. A lot can still happen with physical development and off-field issues disrupting the equation, but certainly high school recruiting rankings are a good starting point if you're looking to rank high school kids and NCAA underclassmen.

 
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My experience with high school recruiting rankings is mostly negative. They seem to have a poor success rate, so I haven't ever really used them. Used them as a guideline last year for one pick, but that was really it. Made my pick based off other sources but I got pointed in that direction due to rankings.

Are they getting better than they used to be?
It's sort of like the draft. They're very hit or miss, but there's a strong correlation between high rankings and eventual success.

Pull up the Rivals 100 from any year and you will see a lot of busts, but also a lot of big names. Far more than random chance would dictate.

I just randomly pulled up their 2008 list. Terrelle Pryor, Julio Jones, AJ Green, Blaine Gabbert, DeVier Posey, Jon Baldwin, Mike Floyd, EJ Manuel, and Ryan Williams all in the top 50. That's pretty impressive. They keep close tabs on these kids nowadays. A lot can still happen with physical development and off-field issues disrupting the equation, but certainly high school recruiting rankings are a good starting point if you're looking to rank high school kids and NCAA underclassmen.
less rankings, more a starting point for deep devo draft research, so, thanks. I saw Alex Collins on all of the lists last year, so I dug up some tape and articles and rolled the dice. I don't pay attention to anything high school football outside of northeast ohio and Michigans top recruits. These are just names to me when we start our draft each May.

 
Here are their pages on Scout.com:

http://louisianastate.scout.com/a.z?s=107&p=8&c=1&nid=4586850

http://tamu.scout.com/a.z?s=187&p=8&c=1&nid=5851975

They had Beckham at 5'11" 175 as a recruit. If you look at the strengths/weaknesses profiles, they're nearly identical. They have the exact same weaknesses listed and the exact same strengths except Noil has "speed" as a positive and Beckham does not.

Noil is actually a more highly-regarded recruit, being rated as the #7, #19, and #21 player in the country by ESPN, Scout, and Rivals respectively.
Beckham as a recruit not = Beckham now, nor does it equal Noil now. Beckham looks like a stud with the way he attacks the ball and the way he runs routes and catches passes with those huge mitts of his.

 
Here are their pages on Scout.com:

http://louisianastate.scout.com/a.z?s=107&p=8&c=1&nid=4586850

http://tamu.scout.com/a.z?s=187&p=8&c=1&nid=5851975

They had Beckham at 5'11" 175 as a recruit. If you look at the strengths/weaknesses profiles, they're nearly identical. They have the exact same weaknesses listed and the exact same strengths except Noil has "speed" as a positive and Beckham does not.

Noil is actually a more highly-regarded recruit, being rated as the #7, #19, and #21 player in the country by ESPN, Scout, and Rivals respectively.
Beckham as a recruit not = Beckham now, nor does it equal Noil now. Beckham looks like a stud with the way he attacks the ball and the way he runs routes and catches passes with those huge mitts of his.
You mean like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWbTDZMfFTs

Obviously it would be folly to assume that a 17-18 year old kid is going to stack up perfectly with a 20-21 year old top 15 NFL draft pick. They're at different stages of their development. Style-wise, they are very similar. Physique-wise, they are very similar. They even sort of move the same. Most Noil clips show him working from the QB spot, but you can see a little bit of him as a returner and receiver below.

http://youtu.be/K0zHxBWh8e0?t=34s

I think you played the "I'll trust the experts" card when talking about your guy Duke Johnson, so I'll just say that Noil being a 5 star recruit by everyone means more to me at this juncture than the opinions of a guy who has probably watched him play for a total of 4-5 minutes.

 
Here are their pages on Scout.com:

http://louisianastate.scout.com/a.z?s=107&p=8&c=1&nid=4586850http://tamu.scout.com/a.z?s=187&p=8&c=1&nid=5851975

They had Beckham at 5'11" 175 as a recruit. If you look at the strengths/weaknesses profiles, they're nearly identical. They have the exact same weaknesses listed and the exact same strengths except Noil has "speed" as a positive and Beckham does not.

Noil is actually a more highly-regarded recruit, being rated as the #7, #19, and #21 player in the country by ESPN, Scout, and Rivals respectively.
Beckham as a recruit not = Beckham now, nor does it equal Noil now. Beckham looks like a stud with the way he attacks the ball and the way he runs routes and catches passes with those huge mitts of his.
You mean like this?

I agree with your last paragraph, but I don't necessarily believe these two wrs look the same and I like Noil. The difference is the way Beckham goes after the ball and how he catches the ball with his HUGE hands. Noil doesn't look the same when he catc,he's the ball. Perhaps we should agree to disagree on that point.

 
My experience with high school recruiting rankings is mostly negative. They seem to have a poor success rate, so I haven't ever really used them. Used them as a guideline last year for one pick, but that was really it. Made my pick based off other sources but I got pointed in that direction due to rankings.

Are they getting better than they used to be?
Rankings are a good starting guide, but I watch the video to weed out guys I like or not. I think with there being more video coverage and exposure for these kids at such a young age, even as HS Freshman or Sophomores, the recruiting sites are getting better as well the common fan.

There's also good footage of 1-on-1's at camps where you can see WRs do things not seen in normal game footage where they're beating up on nobodies playing way off coverage.

 
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There's a RB in the ACC that's going to remind everyone of David Wilson when he blows up this season. He'll be a True Sophomore.

There's a RB in the ACC that's going to remind everyone of Kenyan Drake. He'll be a Redshirt Freshman. Won't be a workhorse, though, as another Redshirt Freshman recovering from a major injury may be the thunder to his lightning.

 
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