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Laura Ingraham blames "diversity" for White House breach (1 Viewer)

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http://www.salon.com/2014/09/30/laura_ingraham_political_correctness_and_diversity_responsible_for_white_house_break_in/

A harrowing new report details how Omar Gonzalez, the fence-jumper who evaded Secret Service agents and made it into the White House, made it much farther into the building than previously realized. Predictably, some conservatives seized on the news as an opportunity to attack the Obama administration for its alleged incompetence. Now, conservative radio host Laura Ingraham has come forward with her own theory about what’s responsible for the security breach — the administration’s emphasis on “political correctness” and “diversity.”

Ingraham offered this hot take on Fox & Friends this morning, denouncing the Obama administration for hiring a woman, Julia Pierson, to lead the Secret Service, and seizing on reports that Gonzalez overpowered a female security guard at the entrance to the White House.

“They brought in a woman, first female director – remember the Obama administration loves firsts. You get the sense at some point that it’s the first that’s more important than the common sense,” Ingraham told the hosts.

Meanwhile, Ingraham said she’d like to see “a big, hulking person” guarding the entrance to the White House — “female, male, I don’t care.”

Turning toward armchair psychology, Ingraham lamented, “you get the sense that the first is what really drives their – floats their boat. They want to be historic. They want it to be an historic appointment, instead of thinking, ‘gee, maybe we just need the best people.’”

That focus on “firsts,” Ingraham charged, comes at the expense of the country’s security.

“[President Obama] was really most motivated by remaking America on the homefront,” Ingraham asserted. “So he’s really motivated about stuff like, you know, the war on women and [the] contraceptive mandate and remaking the military, you know, diversity, global warming. I mean, he’s really into that stuff, but this whole idea of America is facing threats abroad – that’s just really not what has ever motivated President Obama.

 
I've eaten sushi for dinner in back to back days and lunch yesterday. The #### I took this morning smelled terrible!!

 
By all means, have fun with things you find interesting.

I find it tedious, obvious, and without worth outside the obvious marketing savvy. :shrug:

The best thing most people can do is ignore this kind of blather. When partisan mouthpieces spew partisan silliness, we all know their target demographic will applaud. It's when neutral parties and the opposition can't seem to stop quoting and raising a fuss that they become media giants and silliness morphs into importance.

That's the only kind of interest I can imagine anyone finding in this. :shrug:

 
What I found interesting was the fact that both Foxnews and MSNBC were in agreement last night on how incompetent the secret service and their director was. Both were calling for the director to be fired.

 
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/30/laura_ingraham_political_correctness_and_diversity_responsible_for_white_house_break_in/

A harrowing new report details how Omar Gonzalez, the fence-jumper who evaded Secret Service agents and made it into the White House, made it much farther into the building than previously realized. Predictably, some conservatives seized on the news as an opportunity to attack the Obama administration for its alleged incompetence.
Conservatives....

Morning Joe Asks: Was Female Secret Service Director Case of ‘Quota First, Competency Second’?

Morning Joe and Laura Ingraham have found something to agree on. Close the borders! No, actually it’s the suspicion that Secret Service Director Julia Pierson was hired out not for her qualifications but out of a need to “rebrand” the Secret Service following a high-profile incident with prostitutes, aka a desire for political cover via gender diversity.

“This is a delicate subject,” began MJ-regularDonny Deutsch, never a good start. “We need to be careful, though, that we are never ever throwing the baby out with the bath water as far as: the best person always has to get the job. As we go through her resume, you go: obviously, coming off the prostitute scandal, okay, yeah, women on top, good for the ‘brand,’ if you will. But the brand doesn’t work if it’s not competent. In positions of national security, quota second, competency first. It’s a delicate subject, but we’ve gotta talk about it.”
 
Gary Coal Man said:
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/30/laura_ingraham_political_correctness_and_diversity_responsible_for_white_house_break_in/

A harrowing new report details how Omar Gonzalez, the fence-jumper who evaded Secret Service agents and made it into the White House, made it much farther into the building than previously realized. Predictably, some conservatives seized on the news as an opportunity to attack the Obama administration for its alleged incompetence.
Conservatives....

Morning Joe Asks: Was Female Secret Service Director Case of ‘Quota First, Competency Second’?

Morning Joe and Laura Ingraham have found something to agree on. Close the borders! No, actually it’s the suspicion that Secret Service Director Julia Pierson was hired out not for her qualifications but out of a need to “rebrand” the Secret Service following a high-profile incident with prostitutes, aka a desire for political cover via gender diversity.

“This is a delicate subject,” began MJ-regularDonny Deutsch, never a good start. “We need to be careful, though, that we are never ever throwing the baby out with the bath water as far as: the best person always has to get the job. As we go through her resume, you go: obviously, coming off the prostitute scandal, okay, yeah, women on top, good for the ‘brand,’ if you will. But the brand doesn’t work if it’s not competent. In positions of national security, quota second, competency first. It’s a delicate subject, but we’ve gotta talk about it.”
The Secret Service: Bringing Conservatives and Liberals together!

 
I seriously doubt that the white house breach was caused by an old, old wooden ship, but nice try

 
The Secret Service is a mess right now. I find it amazing that theyve allowed the things to happen that have. I visited the White house with my family the week of the 4th of July. The security to go on the tour was ridiculous. Multiple layers of screening etc. But a guy was able to scale a huge fence and run 70+ yards to the White House and into the building before anyone was able to stop him? Then the admission of the elevator incident at the CDC in Atlanta?

I am not a fan of this president and I didnt vote for him. But he's still my President and deserves the finest protection we can afford him and his family. Right now the Secret Service isnt providing it. So if that means the head of the Secret Service has to go then she has to go. I cant imagine what would have happened if the guy running into the White House had an explosive vest or the guy on the elevator had meant to do the POTUS harm.

 
StrikeS2k said:
Fascinating. Partisan blowhard says partisan blowhard things.
Ingraham or Tim?
I'm a whole lot of things; partisan isn't one of them.
Yeah right. Show me ONE thread where you've ever called out a Chris Mathews or a Rachel Maddow for their disgusting partisan hackery. Just one.
Not going to spend my time proving anything to you, Strikey. We've been down this road before.

 
StrikeS2k said:
Fascinating. Partisan blowhard says partisan blowhard things.
Ingraham or Tim?
I'm a whole lot of things; partisan isn't one of them.
Yeah right. Show me ONE thread where you've ever called out a Chris Mathews or a Rachel Maddow for their disgusting partisan hackery. Just one.
Not going to spend my time proving anything to you, Strikey. We've been down this road before.
Oh no you didn't!

 
StrikeS2k said:
Fascinating. Partisan blowhard says partisan blowhard things.
Ingraham or Tim?
I'm a whole lot of things; partisan isn't one of them.
Yeah right. Show me ONE thread where you've ever called out a Chris Mathews or a Rachel Maddow for their disgusting partisan hackery. Just one.
Not going to spend my time proving anything to you, Strikey. We've been down this road before.
Have we? If so you've never shown me the link. Timmy.

 
StrikeS2k said:
Fascinating. Partisan blowhard says partisan blowhard things.
Ingraham or Tim?
I'm a whole lot of things; partisan isn't one of them.
Yeah right. Show me ONE thread where you've ever called out a Chris Mathews or a Rachel Maddow for their disgusting partisan hackery. Just one.
Not going to spend my time proving anything to you, Strikey. We've been down this road before.
Oh no you didn't!
Child Please!

 
Fascinating. Partisan blowhard says partisan blowhard things.
Ingraham or Tim?
I'm a whole lot of things; partisan isn't one of them.
I tend to believe you.

Still, starting a thread to call out a known and recognized partisan blowhard for partisan blowharding is an act that most neutral parties would find a waste of time. :shrug:
I thought it was interesting.
You find too many things "interesting".

 
What I found interesting was the fact that both Foxnews and MSNBC were in agreement last night on how incompetent the secret service and their director was. Both were calling for the director to be fired.
Now, if we're talking incompetence of the Secret Service, that's a discussion every one can discuss regardless of party/beliefs. The director should be fired, no excuses. I don't care who the POTUS is, no one should be able to leap the fence and enter into the East Room. It can never happen...never...ever.

 
Walking Boot said:
What I found interesting was the fact that both Foxnews and MSNBC were in agreement last night on how incompetent the secret service and their director was. Both were calling for the director to be fired.
They're doing a terrible job. They let a convict with a gun ride in a closed elevator with the President last month. They didn't know he had a criminal record or was armed when they let him on board.

Armed contractor with criminal record was on elevator with Obama in AtlantaA security contractor with a gun and three convictions for assault and battery was allowed on an elevator with President Obama during a Sept. 16 trip to Atlanta, violating Secret Service protocols, according to three people familiar with the incident.

Obama was not told about the lapse in his security, these people said. The Secret Service director, Julia Pierson, asked a top agency manager to look into the matter but did not refer it to an investigative unit that was created to review violations of protocol and standards, according to two people familiar with the handling of the case who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The incident, which took place when Obama visited the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to discuss the U.S. response to the Ebola crisis, rattled Secret Service agents assigned to the president’s protective detail.

The private contractor first aroused the agents’ concerns when he acted oddly and did not comply with their orders to stop using a cellphone camera to record the president in the elevator, according to the people familiar with the incident.

When the elevator opened, Obama left with most of his Secret Service detail. Some agents stayed behind to question the man and then used a national database check that turned up his criminal history.

When a supervisor from the firm providing security at the CDC approached and discovered the agents’ concerns, the contractor was fired on the spot. Then the contractor agreed to turn over his gun — surprising agents, who had not realized that he was armed during his encounter with Obama.

Extensive screening is supposed to keep people with weapons or criminal histories out of arm’s reach of the president. But it appears that this man, possessing a gun, came within inches of the president after undergoing no such screening.

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), who heads a House subcommittee that oversees the Secret Service, first heard of the breakdown from a whistleblower. The Washington Post confirmed details of the event with other people familiar with the agency’s review.

“You have a convicted felon within arm’s reach of the president, and they never did a background check,” Chaffetz said. “Words aren’t strong enough for the outrage I feel for the safety of the president and his family. “

Chaffetz added: “His life was in danger. This country would be a different world today if he had pulled out his gun.”

A Secret Service official, speaking on behalf of the agency, said an investigation of the incident is ongoing. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the pending review.

A White House spokesman declined to comment on the incident or say when, or if, the president had been informed of it.

In response to a question at a combative House hearing Tuesday, Pierson said she briefs the president “100 percent of the time” when his personal security has been breached. However, she said that had happened only one time this year: when Omar Gonzalez jumped over the White House fence Sept. 19 and was able to burst into the mansion.

The revelation of the lapse in Atlanta is the latest in a string of embarrassments for the Secret Service. Some elements of the incident were first reported Tuesday afternoon on the Washington Examiner’s Web site.

Pierson drew criticism Tuesday from lawmakers in both parties during the hearing on her agency’s security lapses. The session focused on the Secret Service’s fumbled responses to the recent White House fence jumper and a 2011 shooting attack on the residence.

The fence breach came three days after Obama’s trip to Atlanta.

The elevator incident exposed a breakdown in Secret Service protocols designed to keep the president safe from strangers when he travels to events outside the White House.

Under a security measure called the Arm’s Reach Program, Secret Service advance staffers run potential event staff members, contractors, hotel employees, invited guests and volunteers through several databases, including a national criminal information registry, and records kept by the CIA, the National Security Agency and the Defense Department, among others. Anyone who is found to have a criminal history, mental illness or other indications of risk is barred from entry.

Local police and federal officers are not checked in the same way under the Arm’s Reach Program, with the Secret Service presuming that they meet the safety standards because of their employment in law enforcement. But private security contractors would typically be checked, said two former agents who worked on advance planning for presidential trips.

For nearly every trip the president takes, at least one person is barred from attending or participating in an event because of problems discovered in his or her background, the two former agents said. Most recently, a local political campaign volunteer who was offering to help drive staffers to and from events during a visit had faced an assault charge in the past.

As part of the Secret Service’s review of the elevator incident, Pierson directed a supervising agent on the president’s protective detail to stay in Atlanta to examine the breakdown.

That decision aroused suspicion on Capitol Hill. Chaffetz said he believes that Pierson was trying to keep another security gaffe quiet at a time when her agency and her leadership are under fire.

Former and current agents say Secret Service leaders prefer this kind of informal internal review for assessing potentially embarrassing mistakes. They say such reviews rarely lead to broad reforms or consequences.

These agents also say it is problematic for a presidential protective detail supervisor to review how his team performed.

In an incident The Post revealed in 2013, a top manager of the president’s protective detail had met a woman while drinking at a bar at the Hay-Adams hotel and had left a bullet from his service weapon in her room after spending the evening with her there. One of his superiors reviewed the incident and at first recommended that he receive a few days of counseling. The Post report about the episode led to the agency launching a fuller investigation.
"They didn't know he had a criminal record or was armed when they let him on board."

this, to me, is unbelievable.. this guy was given the opportunity to kill the president if he wanted too.. all it would have taken is one moment for him to pull out the gun and become an infamous part of US history.. crazy

 
Walking Boot said:
What I found interesting was the fact that both Foxnews and MSNBC were in agreement last night on how incompetent the secret service and their director was. Both were calling for the director to be fired.
They're doing a terrible job. They let a convict with a gun ride in a closed elevator with the President last month. They didn't know he had a criminal record or was armed when they let him on board.

Armed contractor with criminal record was on elevator with Obama in AtlantaA security contractor with a gun and three convictions for assault and battery was allowed on an elevator with President Obama during a Sept. 16 trip to Atlanta, violating Secret Service protocols, according to three people familiar with the incident.

Obama was not told about the lapse in his security, these people said. The Secret Service director, Julia Pierson, asked a top agency manager to look into the matter but did not refer it to an investigative unit that was created to review violations of protocol and standards, according to two people familiar with the handling of the case who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The incident, which took place when Obama visited the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to discuss the U.S. response to the Ebola crisis, rattled Secret Service agents assigned to the president’s protective detail.

The private contractor first aroused the agents’ concerns when he acted oddly and did not comply with their orders to stop using a cellphone camera to record the president in the elevator, according to the people familiar with the incident.

When the elevator opened, Obama left with most of his Secret Service detail. Some agents stayed behind to question the man and then used a national database check that turned up his criminal history.

When a supervisor from the firm providing security at the CDC approached and discovered the agents’ concerns, the contractor was fired on the spot. Then the contractor agreed to turn over his gun — surprising agents, who had not realized that he was armed during his encounter with Obama.

Extensive screening is supposed to keep people with weapons or criminal histories out of arm’s reach of the president. But it appears that this man, possessing a gun, came within inches of the president after undergoing no such screening.

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), who heads a House subcommittee that oversees the Secret Service, first heard of the breakdown from a whistleblower. The Washington Post confirmed details of the event with other people familiar with the agency’s review.

“You have a convicted felon within arm’s reach of the president, and they never did a background check,” Chaffetz said. “Words aren’t strong enough for the outrage I feel for the safety of the president and his family. “

Chaffetz added: “His life was in danger. This country would be a different world today if he had pulled out his gun.”

A Secret Service official, speaking on behalf of the agency, said an investigation of the incident is ongoing. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the pending review.

A White House spokesman declined to comment on the incident or say when, or if, the president had been informed of it.

In response to a question at a combative House hearing Tuesday, Pierson said she briefs the president “100 percent of the time” when his personal security has been breached. However, she said that had happened only one time this year: when Omar Gonzalez jumped over the White House fence Sept. 19 and was able to burst into the mansion.

The revelation of the lapse in Atlanta is the latest in a string of embarrassments for the Secret Service. Some elements of the incident were first reported Tuesday afternoon on the Washington Examiner’s Web site.

Pierson drew criticism Tuesday from lawmakers in both parties during the hearing on her agency’s security lapses. The session focused on the Secret Service’s fumbled responses to the recent White House fence jumper and a 2011 shooting attack on the residence.

The fence breach came three days after Obama’s trip to Atlanta.

The elevator incident exposed a breakdown in Secret Service protocols designed to keep the president safe from strangers when he travels to events outside the White House.

Under a security measure called the Arm’s Reach Program, Secret Service advance staffers run potential event staff members, contractors, hotel employees, invited guests and volunteers through several databases, including a national criminal information registry, and records kept by the CIA, the National Security Agency and the Defense Department, among others. Anyone who is found to have a criminal history, mental illness or other indications of risk is barred from entry.

Local police and federal officers are not checked in the same way under the Arm’s Reach Program, with the Secret Service presuming that they meet the safety standards because of their employment in law enforcement. But private security contractors would typically be checked, said two former agents who worked on advance planning for presidential trips.

For nearly every trip the president takes, at least one person is barred from attending or participating in an event because of problems discovered in his or her background, the two former agents said. Most recently, a local political campaign volunteer who was offering to help drive staffers to and from events during a visit had faced an assault charge in the past.

As part of the Secret Service’s review of the elevator incident, Pierson directed a supervising agent on the president’s protective detail to stay in Atlanta to examine the breakdown.

That decision aroused suspicion on Capitol Hill. Chaffetz said he believes that Pierson was trying to keep another security gaffe quiet at a time when her agency and her leadership are under fire.

Former and current agents say Secret Service leaders prefer this kind of informal internal review for assessing potentially embarrassing mistakes. They say such reviews rarely lead to broad reforms or consequences.

These agents also say it is problematic for a presidential protective detail supervisor to review how his team performed.

In an incident The Post revealed in 2013, a top manager of the president’s protective detail had met a woman while drinking at a bar at the Hay-Adams hotel and had left a bullet from his service weapon in her room after spending the evening with her there. One of his superiors reviewed the incident and at first recommended that he receive a few days of counseling. The Post report about the episode led to the agency launching a fuller investigation.
"They didn't know he had a criminal record or was armed when they let him on board."

this, to me, is unbelievable.. this guy was given the opportunity to kill the president if he wanted too.. all it would have taken is one moment for him to pull out the gun and become an infamous part of US history.. crazy
I think we should all say a prayer of thanks that this didn't happen. President Joe Biden gives me the shivers. Brrr....

 
Walking Boot said:
What I found interesting was the fact that both Foxnews and MSNBC were in agreement last night on how incompetent the secret service and their director was. Both were calling for the director to be fired.
They're doing a terrible job. They let a convict with a gun ride in a closed elevator with the President last month. They didn't know he had a criminal record or was armed when they let him on board.

Armed contractor with criminal record was on elevator with Obama in AtlantaA security contractor with a gun and three convictions for assault and battery was allowed on an elevator with President Obama during a Sept. 16 trip to Atlanta, violating Secret Service protocols, according to three people familiar with the incident.

Obama was not told about the lapse in his security, these people said. The Secret Service director, Julia Pierson, asked a top agency manager to look into the matter but did not refer it to an investigative unit that was created to review violations of protocol and standards, according to two people familiar with the handling of the case who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The incident, which took place when Obama visited the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to discuss the U.S. response to the Ebola crisis, rattled Secret Service agents assigned to the president’s protective detail.

The private contractor first aroused the agents’ concerns when he acted oddly and did not comply with their orders to stop using a cellphone camera to record the president in the elevator, according to the people familiar with the incident.

When the elevator opened, Obama left with most of his Secret Service detail. Some agents stayed behind to question the man and then used a national database check that turned up his criminal history.

When a supervisor from the firm providing security at the CDC approached and discovered the agents’ concerns, the contractor was fired on the spot. Then the contractor agreed to turn over his gun — surprising agents, who had not realized that he was armed during his encounter with Obama.

Extensive screening is supposed to keep people with weapons or criminal histories out of arm’s reach of the president. But it appears that this man, possessing a gun, came within inches of the president after undergoing no such screening.

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), who heads a House subcommittee that oversees the Secret Service, first heard of the breakdown from a whistleblower. The Washington Post confirmed details of the event with other people familiar with the agency’s review.

“You have a convicted felon within arm’s reach of the president, and they never did a background check,” Chaffetz said. “Words aren’t strong enough for the outrage I feel for the safety of the president and his family. “

Chaffetz added: “His life was in danger. This country would be a different world today if he had pulled out his gun.”

A Secret Service official, speaking on behalf of the agency, said an investigation of the incident is ongoing. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the pending review.

A White House spokesman declined to comment on the incident or say when, or if, the president had been informed of it.

In response to a question at a combative House hearing Tuesday, Pierson said she briefs the president “100 percent of the time” when his personal security has been breached. However, she said that had happened only one time this year: when Omar Gonzalez jumped over the White House fence Sept. 19 and was able to burst into the mansion.

The revelation of the lapse in Atlanta is the latest in a string of embarrassments for the Secret Service. Some elements of the incident were first reported Tuesday afternoon on the Washington Examiner’s Web site.

Pierson drew criticism Tuesday from lawmakers in both parties during the hearing on her agency’s security lapses. The session focused on the Secret Service’s fumbled responses to the recent White House fence jumper and a 2011 shooting attack on the residence.

The fence breach came three days after Obama’s trip to Atlanta.

The elevator incident exposed a breakdown in Secret Service protocols designed to keep the president safe from strangers when he travels to events outside the White House.

Under a security measure called the Arm’s Reach Program, Secret Service advance staffers run potential event staff members, contractors, hotel employees, invited guests and volunteers through several databases, including a national criminal information registry, and records kept by the CIA, the National Security Agency and the Defense Department, among others. Anyone who is found to have a criminal history, mental illness or other indications of risk is barred from entry.

Local police and federal officers are not checked in the same way under the Arm’s Reach Program, with the Secret Service presuming that they meet the safety standards because of their employment in law enforcement. But private security contractors would typically be checked, said two former agents who worked on advance planning for presidential trips.

For nearly every trip the president takes, at least one person is barred from attending or participating in an event because of problems discovered in his or her background, the two former agents said. Most recently, a local political campaign volunteer who was offering to help drive staffers to and from events during a visit had faced an assault charge in the past.

As part of the Secret Service’s review of the elevator incident, Pierson directed a supervising agent on the president’s protective detail to stay in Atlanta to examine the breakdown.

That decision aroused suspicion on Capitol Hill. Chaffetz said he believes that Pierson was trying to keep another security gaffe quiet at a time when her agency and her leadership are under fire.

Former and current agents say Secret Service leaders prefer this kind of informal internal review for assessing potentially embarrassing mistakes. They say such reviews rarely lead to broad reforms or consequences.

These agents also say it is problematic for a presidential protective detail supervisor to review how his team performed.

In an incident The Post revealed in 2013, a top manager of the president’s protective detail had met a woman while drinking at a bar at the Hay-Adams hotel and had left a bullet from his service weapon in her room after spending the evening with her there. One of his superiors reviewed the incident and at first recommended that he receive a few days of counseling. The Post report about the episode led to the agency launching a fuller investigation.
"They didn't know he had a criminal record or was armed when they let him on board."

this, to me, is unbelievable.. this guy was given the opportunity to kill the president if he wanted too.. all it would have taken is one moment for him to pull out the gun and become an infamous part of US history.. crazy
I think we should all say a prayer of thanks that this didn't happen. President Joe Biden gives me the shivers. Brrr....
I was just going to post that. Biden gives me the heebee-jeebees.

 
Fascinating. Partisan blowhard says partisan blowhard things.
Ingraham or Tim?
I'm a whole lot of things; partisan isn't one of them.
I tend to believe you.

Still, starting a thread to call out a known and recognized partisan blowhard for partisan blowharding is an act that most neutral parties would find a waste of time. :shrug:
I thought it was interesting.
liar

ETA this resignation is just another sign of the Obama admin's addiction to the PC apology culture and the belief that everyone is equal. More proof that redistribution of wealth and socialized healthcare are more important to them than defending our country and the Bill of Rights.

 
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Fascinating. Partisan blowhard says partisan blowhard things.
Ingraham or Tim?
Ok, I'm pretty wasted... but to be honest?

I don't really remember your particular alias in terms of detail, just broad stokes; it's pretty much the same as many others with a common (and rather pathetic and unthoughtout) refrain - that's probably why the specific Olaf moniker is no different than so many others of false, unsubstantiated i-bravado.

I disagree with Tim on a ton of issues. I disagree with his approach, even more.

But, seriously, he brings a thousand times more thought and intellectual acumen to this board than all of your sycophant aliai combined.

 
Ok, back to actual real discussion...

is this the same chick that "oversaw" our secret service banging half of Brazil? If so, should have resigned LONG ago.

Damn, Obama is a freakin' mess. What a disappointment.

 
Fascinating. Partisan blowhard says partisan blowhard things.
Ingraham or Tim?
I'm a whole lot of things; partisan isn't one of them.
I tend to believe you.Still, starting a thread to call out a known and recognized partisan blowhard for partisan blowharding is an act that most neutral parties would find a waste of time. :shrug:
Tim loves to post stupid #### like this that he hears on the radio.

 
Ok, back to actual real discussion...

is this the same chick that "oversaw" our secret service banging half of Brazil? If so, should have resigned LONG ago.

Damn, Obama is a freakin' mess. What a disappointment.
No, she was hired after the prostitution scandal to clean up the department.

 
I generally like Koya's work here but there's something innately gratifying when a "who are you?" post gets slammed back in some board veteran's face.

Yes, yes, I can predict one of the next posts we'll see now. Eff you in advance.

 
pantherclub said:
Koya said:
Ok, back to actual real discussion...

is this the same chick that "oversaw" our secret service banging half of Brazil? If so, should have resigned LONG ago.

Damn, Obama is a freakin' mess. What a disappointment.
wait, what?
??

Seems pretty self explanatory, no?

 
jamny said:
Koya said:
Ok, back to actual real discussion...

is this the same chick that "oversaw" our secret service banging half of Brazil? If so, should have resigned LONG ago.

Damn, Obama is a freakin' mess. What a disappointment.
No, she was hired after the prostitution scandal to clean up the department.
Not sure if that's better or worse. :oldunsure:

 
Koya said:
Ok, back to actual real discussion...

is this the same chick that "oversaw" our secret service banging half of Brazil? If so, should have resigned LONG ago.

Damn, Obama is a freakin' mess. What a disappointment.
No, she was brought in to clean up the service's image after all that happened. So there are lots of things to learn here

1. Boys will be boys. Overreacting to incidents involving prostitutes, strippers, or high-speed watercraft is always a bad idea. Let the children play you uptight pantywaists.

2. Women can't do anything. They should never be hired to do any job that smacks of masculinity unless they are Pink or Grace Jones or a similar species of Manan.

3. Socialist muslim foreigners should never be elected President, as they simply don't care about American values enough to competently pick leaders of the secret service. Also, Obamacare, Benghazi, and let's not forget Robert Ayers.

4. No matter what happens, if something goes wrong somewhere in the country, its indicative of Obama's massive failure as a President.

 

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