I haven't forgotten about this thread! I have been watching Rubin and Rogers closely, but never felt the need to add anything to it because my opinion of Rubin hasn't changed. Shaun Rogers is obviously on the decline, but he was great prior to his injury in Cleveland.
I recently read an article highlighting poor play from this past season:
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/scramble/2012/scramble-ball-2011-all-kcw-team
Reminded me of this thread. Here is an exerpt, I bolded the relevant part:
"Defensive Line
Tom: And we finally get to talk about the Cleveland Browns!
Mike: How have we avoided the Browns thus far?
Tom: They were mostly just garden-variety bad instead of ridiculously awful? And Gabbert out-classed Colt McCoy in awfulness.
Mike: True.
Tom:
The Browns were terrible defending runs up the middle this year. Both defensive tackles, Ahytba Rubin and rookie Phil Taylor, make their average tackle well downfield and had terrible stop rates. Taylor, in fact, ranked last among defensive tackles. Are you comfortable picking on the rookie, or shall we take the veteran?
Mike: Oh, Taylor, by a mile. I've seen few players who looked so completely lost on so many different occasions.
Tom: Rubin was bad enough I don't think it can be by a mile, but I'm on board with the Phil Taylor pick. At the other tackle spot, while we try not to make this about our teams, I think the Titans' Shaun Smith is another player who deserves strong consideration. He had a terrible stop rate, made his average tackle well downfield, did essentially nothing in terms of rushing the passer, and more or less got benched as the year went on."