FUBAR
Footballguy
If the link works, this is what I was wearing
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Ran a 10k in June (1 Viewer)
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Sand
Footballguy
Which is why you just did B2B?
Did you get a good current this year? I know in many years it is a pretty good tailwind.
Sand
Footballguy
Studly. I just bought the "Graham Watson Style Poster for Triathletes" to hang on my wall.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Wear your drag suit and flip over on your back.Which is why you just did B2B?
Did you get a good current this year? I know in many years it is a pretty good tailwind.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
http://setupevents.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=event_results&id=3899
3rd overall finisher is on our multisport team. 4:48 bike time is sick. I believe he's in his 20s.
3rd overall finisher is on our multisport team. 4:48 bike time is sick. I believe he's in his 20s.
Sand
Footballguy
4:48 is beastly. Heck, the 48 minute swim is insane
A coach here finished 15th. I am just about as fast as he is in the water, and he finished in 52. Your buddy is a freakin' fish. Evidently an aero fish.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Lunchtime trail run today. I hit one of my favorite sections of single track and came upon a coyote that cared little that I was around. I still feel like I've lost some conditioning with the time off after the 50M, but it's slowly coming back. I haven't put the HR monitor back on yet, just running by feel, but I know I'm still working a bit harder than I should be. Hopefully a couple of weeks of consistency and I'll be back to "normal" soon.
Sand
Footballguy
Awesome! I saw a turkey today (no picture - sucker hightailed it out of there once he saw me). Went on a 35 mile hill ride this afternoon before the rain came. Chose a route with a couple hills so steep I lifted my front tire up on two occasions. Easily 20+%.
Also, this ride puts me a 3,000 miles for the year. Did 2700 all last year.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
7 miles in the cold rain tonight. Wasnt as bad as I thought it would be. In fact the temp felt pretty good except my left hand is still frozen.
sho nuff
Footballguy
I need a swift kick in the ### this week.
Just been slow...feeling tired...took a few rest days that basically turned into only running once this week. Though, I will run Saturday morning.
Not sure what it is right now...my motivation just is not there this fall.
I have it for a couple of weeks...then gone.
Just been slow...feeling tired...took a few rest days that basically turned into only running once this week. Though, I will run Saturday morning.
Not sure what it is right now...my motivation just is not there this fall.
I have it for a couple of weeks...then gone.
Ned
Footballguy
I was there this summer with all my mom stuff going on. You may not 'see' it, but I'll bet all the family health issues are weighing you down. Just get out when you can. Don't beat yourself up about it.
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FUBAR
Footballguy
Reading up on off-season training. Not real sure I like the idea of taking too much time off, but I will very likely cut down on bike mileage while incorporating more weight training including cross-fit. Probably run a bit more as well. Works better in my schedule as I can run in the dark, not a fan of cycling in the dark.
Is anyone else changing their emphasis for the winter months?
Is anyone else changing their emphasis for the winter months?
MAC_32
Footballguy
The most important things are to stay active, but just for the sake of exercise - don't treat working out like your training, especially mentally. It's easy to burn out in-season if you don't take a mental break from training in between seasons. When you do this really depends on your schedule, but my mental break is usually mid December to mid-late January.
I use this time as my opportunity to try out new things. Sometimes I'll do yoga or pilates once or twice per week, if I'm at a gym I'll try some different strength training regimen's, I'll do a workout or two in my basement at home per week - core based, lot of medicine and stability balls. To keep my running legs under me I do lots of snow runs. And we get a lot of it here. I'll do regular runs outside on weeks when there isn't a whole lot of snow, but I really try to get out every day there is snow to run. Use different muscle groups, new challenge, and I just love snow - especially on the trails.
Come late January/early February I usually mentally start getting back into training mode, but still do more strength training than running, with the idea of really getting going again come early March.
Sand
Footballguy
More volume, less intensity. That and relearn how to swim (though I had a really good workout Wed.). I've been doing precious little of that lately.
I also don't like biking in the dark, though I'll do it with some groups. I take to turning my lunch hour into workout hour. I plan on running and biking at lunch - luckily my hours are flexible and a 2 hour lunch is no big deal (as long as I get my hours in).
ThreeThousand
Footballguy
koby925
Footballguy
158 miles in October. My best month in awhile.
2013 was kind of a lost racing year for me so I have a hard time resigning myself to this being off-season. I really want to take the fall/winter to get a good base heading into spring, though, so I can make an assault on all or most of my Old Man PRs in 2014. That said, I still have the Manchester RR on Thanskgiving and I should be able to beat my time from last year where I hadn't run much since my Half in Sept '12 and I had to walk for 15 seconds or so midrace beacuse of a turned ankle. If I can't beat that effort, actually, I will be pretty fired up. And living down here now, a late fall or winter race here and there will probably happen. Maybe I can find a 10k or 10 miler and break the 10k PR and/or establish a 10 mile baseline PR.
2013 was kind of a lost racing year for me so I have a hard time resigning myself to this being off-season. I really want to take the fall/winter to get a good base heading into spring, though, so I can make an assault on all or most of my Old Man PRs in 2014. That said, I still have the Manchester RR on Thanskgiving and I should be able to beat my time from last year where I hadn't run much since my Half in Sept '12 and I had to walk for 15 seconds or so midrace beacuse of a turned ankle. If I can't beat that effort, actually, I will be pretty fired up. And living down here now, a late fall or winter race here and there will probably happen. Maybe I can find a 10k or 10 miler and break the 10k PR and/or establish a 10 mile baseline PR.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Sounds like we have similar schedules, at least as far as flexibility. For me, it's not even the # of hours, it's just "get the work done".
More volume, less intensity. That and relearn how to swim (though I had a really good workout Wed.). I've been doing precious little of that lately.
I also don't like biking in the dark, though I'll do it with some groups. I take to turning my lunch hour into workout hour. I plan on running and biking at lunch - luckily my hours are flexible and a 2 hour lunch is no big deal (as long as I get my hours in).
I keep telling myself to do this. I must get a coach.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Trail runners - what, if anything, do you think of the following races. I've done one trail run before (Bel Monte 50K) and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Neusiok Trail Run: http://neusioktrailrun.com/Home.html
"ICY-8" HR ADVENTURE TRAIL RUN http://athletic-equation.com/ICY-8_HR_ATR.html
Instant Classic Marathon Trail Run http://www.instantclassictrailrace.com/index.html (Definitely inclined to do this one - close to where I'll be and a great cause) Elevation looks challenging yet certainly doable.
Neusiok Trail Run: http://neusioktrailrun.com/Home.html
"ICY-8" HR ADVENTURE TRAIL RUN http://athletic-equation.com/ICY-8_HR_ATR.html
Instant Classic Marathon Trail Run http://www.instantclassictrailrace.com/index.html (Definitely inclined to do this one - close to where I'll be and a great cause) Elevation looks challenging yet certainly doable.
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Sand
Footballguy
If the currents are good B2B is as fast or faster.
And, as a note, a big :finger: to 2Y for tempting me with Battle of Waterloo.
Damn that looks awesome. Really gonna have to think on that one!
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2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Based on web content alone, I'd be most apt to do the first one. I had to laugh at myself when I read this:
What you can expect in elevation is approx 550’ of total elevation gain & loss. While this trail is not hilly some sections are technical. The vast majority of feedback on the trail from the 2012 race participants was “The course was more challenging than expected”. The path is littered with tree roots, cypress knees, rocks, pine cones, tree limbs and wet leaves providing ample opportunities to roll an ankle, hop a fallen tree, or take a fall. In January it will likely be cold and wet.
I thought "that sounds ####ing awesome".
James Daulton
Footballguy
I was a regular runner for quite a while (about 25 miles/week from age 25 - 37 or so), but back issues forced me to stop. Naturally I got fat when I stopped. Over the last few years, I've gotten my lard ### in pretty good shape with diet, weights, and cardio on the elliptical or stairmaster. I've been jones'ing to do some 5Ks again so I went out last Sunday for the first time in a long long time to see where I was from a running-fitness perspective. Spun off four miles in 35 minutes which I was pretty happy with. Even though I work my legs regularly with weights, my calves and thighs were pretty sore up until yesterday. Anyway, it was nice to get out and I'm going to try to mix in a run at least once a week. I enjoyed it very much.
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Sand
Footballguy
I liked the part about going through the cypress swamps, particularly when they name them after cotton mouth snakes. Winner!
FUBAR
Footballguy
It looks awesome, which is why I'm tempted. Sucks timewise, as I'm leaving for 4 months (I'll go home on weekends) two days after that event.I liked the part about going through the cypress swamps, particularly when they name them after cotton mouth snakes. Winner!
It really seem like you've picked it up with your training since the "bad news" from the doctors. Do you have any races scheduled other than the Manchester Road Race? I find that when I am in the "coming back" phase like you that having a goal race to work towards really helps with motivating myself to get out the door and hit the roads/trails.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
That first one does look pretty cool. What distance would you run?It looks awesome, which is why I'm tempted. Sucks timewise, as I'm leaving for 4 months (I'll go home on weekends) two days after that event.I liked the part about going through the cypress swamps, particularly when they name them after cotton mouth snakes. Winner!
The 2nd one looks like a good one as an entry-level timed run. I can see myself doing one of those at some point, but that's a whole different kind of mindset with no actual finish line to get to!
Looking at all three of them I have to ask - how flat is it out there? My 6 mile training runs have more elevation than those do at marathon and above distances! And it's not like I'm in the Rockies or San Juans.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
It's deceiving out here in many places. No big climbs, but some areas can be nothing but 100 ft, 100 ft down. I sometimes ride in the North Carolina High County with 3-8 mile long climbs and Sand can have more elevation gain in a ride down in Alabama then I do.That first one does look pretty cool. What distance would you run?It looks awesome, which is why I'm tempted. Sucks timewise, as I'm leaving for 4 months (I'll go home on weekends) two days after that event.I liked the part about going through the cypress swamps, particularly when they name them after cotton mouth snakes. Winner!
The 2nd one looks like a good one as an entry-level timed run. I can see myself doing one of those at some point, but that's a whole different kind of mindset with no actual finish line to get to!
Looking at all three of them I have to ask - how flat is it out there? My 6 mile training runs have more elevation than those do at marathon and above distances! And it's not like I'm in the Rockies or San Juans.
MAC_32
Footballguy
That might have been the most satisfying 6 mile run I have ever done. All trails...4 steep elevation changes (two 100-150 ft, two 200-250 feet)...just got a lot of rain last night so the standing water and sloppy mud added an extra challenge...most of the terrain was uneven and rocky in places in which there weren't already steep hills...really the only breaks were a 1/2 mile stretch around miles 3 and 4.5. All in all - 50 minutes, only bleeding in 4 places, my white shoes are now brown, all three pairs of socks are laying on the garage floor trying to dry up, and I am ready for a drink or five.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
You're welcome. If you bored at work some time, Google sleuth up some pics of the owner/RD from Epic. This may further help you decide to sign up. She is, like, a 3 or 4 time Ironman, ridiculously fit and yet very attractive. It would be awesome to have a crew racing together up here in July. Any of you multi-sport guys with an open race slot in late July, take a look at this: http://epicraces.com/?event=battle-of-waterloo-coming-back-in-2014And, as a note, a big :finger: to 2Y for tempting me with Battle of Waterloo.
FUBAR
Footballguy
If I were to do the first, it would be the 21.5. I just signed up for the 3rd one, the marathon. I can see going longer next year. 100M is probably on the bucket list after I knock out an IM or two.That first one does look pretty cool. What distance would you run?It looks awesome, which is why I'm tempted. Sucks timewise, as I'm leaving for 4 months (I'll go home on weekends) two days after that event.I liked the part about going through the cypress swamps, particularly when they name them after cotton mouth snakes. Winner!
The 2nd one looks like a good one as an entry-level timed run. I can see myself doing one of those at some point, but that's a whole different kind of mindset with no actual finish line to get to!
Looking at all three of them I have to ask - how flat is it out there? My 6 mile training runs have more elevation than those do at marathon and above distances! And it's not like I'm in the Rockies or San Juans.
Yeah, not real sure about the "just keep going until you want to stop" type runs. In concept I can get behind it, but I kind of like having a finish line.
It's pretty darn flat out in this part of the state. Keep in mind that these are 90 minutes or less from the Atlantic Ocean. The first one is right next to it. If I want a hillier course, I'd have to travel a few hours west.
FUBAR
Footballguy
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Sand
Footballguy
tri-man 47
Footballguy
JD - sounds like your fitness is still pretty good! Could you still catch a 5K this year (depends on where you are in the country ...race schedule is thinning out here in Chicago)? One option might be a turkey trot, which is a good way to start T'giving (justifying lots of food and drink), and they tend to be lower-key affairs. Weight training is good, but nothing beats putting in some miles to see where you're really at for a possible 5K. Keep us informed!
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MAC - fun stuff! I know 2Young is smiling as he reads of your adventure.
FUBAR - pretty crazy to read "...after I knock an IM or two." Oh, yeah, sure - nothing to it!!!
I did a quick cadence check this a.m. as I pushed the pace at the end of a 3 miler. It was approaching 180 ...but I was feeling real rusty and had no length to the stride. That's one reason I like to do (and missed a lot this year) my "block strider" workout - running repeats of a 1/4 mile stretch of sidewalk where I deliberately do one step per sidewalk square with the intent of building a longer stride.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Do you use a metronome and if not how do you know what your cadence was?JD - sounds like your fitness is still pretty good! Could you still catch a 5K this year (depends on where you are in the country ...race schedule is thinning out here in Chicago)? One option might be a turkey trot, which is a good way to start T'giving (justifying lots of food and drink), and they tend to be lower-key affairs. Weight training is good, but nothing beats putting in some miles to see where you're really at for a possible 5K. Keep us informed!
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MAC - fun stuff! I know 2Young is smiling as he reads of your adventure.
FUBAR - pretty crazy to read "...after I knock an IM or two." Oh, yeah, sure - nothing to it!!!
I did a quick cadence check this a.m. as I pushed the pace at the end of a 3 miler. It was approaching 180 ...but I was feeling real rusty and had no length to the stride. That's one reason I like to do (and missed a lot this year) my "block strider" workout - running repeats of a 1/4 mile stretch of sidewalk where I deliberately do one step per sidewalk square with the intent of building a longer stride.
I did a seven mile run this am using the metronome. I really liked it and felt much more relaxed then usual. I am also much more sore then usual right now. I am assuming that I used different muscles running in this fasion.
* On a side note I was wearing my Garmin but I did not set it for any particular pace. I was consistently faster every mile of my seven mile run. I am kind of thinking my speed will improve with this cadence style running.
I had my metronome set at 167. When I was timed at fleet feet I was at about 155 cadence.
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Sure... that's I thought 5 years ago when a few months after I started back up again I wanted to find a "low key" race to Turkey Day to test my fitness and then this happens... http://athlinks.com/time.aspx?eventid=56762&courseid=84631
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Kind of a weird run this morning. I had a full day scheduled at work today, so I got up at 3:45 for the third time this week to get a run in before going to the office. Which clearly sucks, but that's beside the point for the purposes of this story. Anyway, my wife gets up around this time pretty much every weekday to run since she doesn't have the luxury of going out mid-day like I often can. She typically runs out where we live, whereas I prefer to go into campus instead.
Today, though, she suggests that I should just run with her. Uh, okay. So out we go at about 4:45. We live in the sticks where there are no streetlights, and it is absolutely pitch dark. A little starlight, but no moon. I can barely see the road in front of me. If I lived in western SD instead of eastern SD, I would be seriously concerned about getting attacked by something. Only five miles, but the whole time I was completely paranoid about stepping into a pavement depression and face-planting. Good to spend time with Mrs. K, but I'm not a fan of running the dark.
Today, though, she suggests that I should just run with her. Uh, okay. So out we go at about 4:45. We live in the sticks where there are no streetlights, and it is absolutely pitch dark. A little starlight, but no moon. I can barely see the road in front of me. If I lived in western SD instead of eastern SD, I would be seriously concerned about getting attacked by something. Only five miles, but the whole time I was completely paranoid about stepping into a pavement depression and face-planting. Good to spend time with Mrs. K, but I'm not a fan of running the dark.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Our sidewalks here in town have so many monsters (1 to 2 inch differentials between sections) that it's safer to run on the roads in the dark.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
I have a headlamp from rei that I cant even feel is on. Ever thought of looking into a nice one? It wasnt cheap but it is waterproof, lightweight, and I love it.
sho nuff
Footballguy
So all we get out of this story is paranoia about hitting something?
No running into any animals...large 4 legged ones?
Weak.
Yeah, try a headlamp. I only have a cheaper one (energizer I think...found at target)...it actually works very well and has a clip on piece for the back that has a red blinking LED on it.
Sand
Footballguy
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prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I do this a lot and I am becoming less of a fan every year. Here I do not have much of a choice due to the heat. I am seriously considering a headlamp. I am not getting any younger and my night vision is showing that.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Pleased with my training run this morning. 13.1 miles in 1:35:37 which averages 7:18 including the first 3 miles each over 7:30. One of those runs that I accidentally ran faster than I had planned but felt reasonably comfortable throughout. I'll have to shave about 40 seconds per mile from that pace to run a PR for my half marathon a week from tomorrow. That will be tough but I've run 13.1 training runs the last two weekends so I'm starting to get comfortable with that distance again.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Sand
Footballguy
koby925
Footballguy
Nice job, Jux. You're ready to roll.
I did a 10 miler in 7:25 pace (7:30 out 7:20 back) today. That distance starting to feel comfortable.
Steve, I may do a race before but Manchester kind of is my goal race after the disappointing effort last year. This year I know the course and know what to expect from that 2nd uphill mile. Shooting for sub 6 pace for the 4.75 mile course. It's a pretty cool environment and very competitive race.
I did a 10 miler in 7:25 pace (7:30 out 7:20 back) today. That distance starting to feel comfortable.
Steve, I may do a race before but Manchester kind of is my goal race after the disappointing effort last year. This year I know the course and know what to expect from that 2nd uphill mile. Shooting for sub 6 pace for the 4.75 mile course. It's a pretty cool environment and very competitive race.
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worrierking
Footballguy
Ridiculously fast. Wow.
Ivan, I run at about 5:30 am everyday. It's dark until almost 7 right now. I hate it but have no other options. The end of daylight savings will help.
17.2 this morning, 59.4 for the week. Football tonight.
