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Fargo TV series on FX - season 3 starts TONIGHT 4/19!!! (1 Viewer)

Disco Stu said:
JohnnyU said:
Disco Stu said:
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
JohnnyU said:
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
JohnnyU said:
Why do they call it Fargo when it takes place in Minnesota? Same for the movie.
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Part of the movie took place in Fargo, right?
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Not that I remember it didn't.
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Wikipedia says Fargo is where he hired the kidnappers.
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Yes. And in the tv show there's a tie-in to Fargo because of the trucking (gun running?) business. In the preview it looked like the bosses(?) in Fargo sent a couple of guys to do their own investigation. Adam Goldberg was one of them.
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Still, it doesn't make sense to call the movie Fargo when it's primarily about Minnesotans.
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It's also not really a true story. :shrug:
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I know that, but Fargo about Minnesotans? LOL.

 
JohnnyU said:
Disco Stu said:
JohnnyU said:
Disco Stu said:
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
JohnnyU said:
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
JohnnyU said:
Why do they call it Fargo when it takes place in Minnesota? Same for the movie.
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Part of the movie took place in Fargo, right?
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Not that I remember it didn't.
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Wikipedia says Fargo is where he hired the kidnappers.
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Yes. And in the tv show there's a tie-in to Fargo because of the trucking (gun running?) business. In the preview it looked like the bosses(?) in Fargo sent a couple of guys to do their own investigation. Adam Goldberg was one of them.
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Still, it doesn't make sense to call the movie Fargo when it's primarily about Minnesotans.
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It's also not really a true story. :shrug:
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I know that, but Fargo about Minnesotans? LOL.
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Did you have similar qualms about The Honeymooners? They weren't on a honeymoon.

 
fatness said:
JohnnyU said:
Disco Stu said:
JohnnyU said:
Disco Stu said:
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
JohnnyU said:
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
JohnnyU said:
Why do they call it Fargo when it takes place in Minnesota? Same for the movie.
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Part of the movie took place in Fargo, right?
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Not that I remember it didn't.
Click to expand...
Wikipedia says Fargo is where he hired the kidnappers.
Click to expand...
Yes. And in the tv show there's a tie-in to Fargo because of the trucking (gun running?) business. In the preview it looked like the bosses(?) in Fargo sent a couple of guys to do their own investigation. Adam Goldberg was one of them.
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Still, it doesn't make sense to call the movie Fargo when it's primarily about Minnesotans.
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It's also not really a true story. :shrug:
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I know that, but Fargo about Minnesotans? LOL.
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Did you have similar qualms about The Honeymooners? They weren't on a honeymoon.
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really?

 
Watched the first episode, and it completely blew my expectations for the show (tempered) away. Billy Bob Thornton's character is basically going to be 2014's "Walter White," only with a lot more body bags. Loosely based upon the movie, but quite a bit different than the movie. I'll be watching every week...unless the first episode is >>> what the rest of the series will be like.

 
BustedKnuckles said:
villa said:
BustedKnuckles said:
villa said:
I was surprised how similar it seemed to the movie. Haven't seen the original in a while but things from the film kept coming back to me that seemed very much like the show.
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Fargo has received general acclaim from television critics, and currently has a Metacritic score of 87 out of 100 based on 38 reviews, indicating "universal acclaim".The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes currently reports 100% "certified fresh" approval rating with an average rating of 8.5/10 based on 33 reviews. The website consensus reads "Based on the film of the same name in atmosphere, style, and location only, Fargo presents more quirky characters and a new storyline that is expertly executed with dark humor and odd twists. IGN reviewer Roth Cornet gave the series premiere a 9 out of 10 "Amazing" rating, saying that "with rich and zany characters, darkly comedic violence, and a tantalizing mystery on tap, Fargo is well-worth watching.
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Yep, I understand the premise. Just surprised how much of the feel of it they captured for a tv show not actually made by the Coen's.
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i believe the Coens are executive producers for the show
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I dont think they have anything to do with the TV show. They get "executive producer" credit because of the tie-in to the movie and them having the rights. IIRC, though, they're pretty distant from this project.

 
Just watched, really good. Great cast. Billy Bob Thornton is such a freak.

Network TV pretty much can just to stick to making reality TV shows at this point.

 
pollardsvision said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
One big difference between this and the movie is that in the movie Jerry creates his own problems with GM and then hatches the kidnapping plot himself. In this show Lester has a big, bad bully and Billy Bob drops into his life from nowhere, introduces the idea of killing Hess and then carries it out without Lester's approval.

Not saying it's good or bad, but it leaves Lester as a much more sympathetic character. Of course he then goes from zero to a million and hammers his wife, but she's such an unrelenting, over-the-top shrew that I still don't think it's turned the audience on Lester.
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We learned from Breaking Bad that audiences will accept anything from the main character as long as he's transforming from being a spineless weenie with a nagging wife that doesn't respect him.

Then it becomes a fantasy for every repressed man that wishes he'd done something more with his life.
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Interesting: I hadn't made that connection. The hammer scene seemed so over-the-top unbelievable to me, even more than the cop scene.

Frankly, if I'm a cop, and I think there's a 1% chance some jackass I pull over might kill me, and a 100% chance I live if I let him go, I let him go every time. That's a no brainer, although this mentality may be why I am not a cop.

But to imagine this guy is going to hammer his wife in the head because she said he wasn't a man? Much less believable. There needed to be some middle step in this guy's transformation.

 
Chase Stuart said:
pollardsvision said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
One big difference between this and the movie is that in the movie Jerry creates his own problems with GM and then hatches the kidnapping plot himself. In this show Lester has a big, bad bully and Billy Bob drops into his life from nowhere, introduces the idea of killing Hess and then carries it out without Lester's approval.

Not saying it's good or bad, but it leaves Lester as a much more sympathetic character. Of course he then goes from zero to a million and hammers his wife, but she's such an unrelenting, over-the-top shrew that I still don't think it's turned the audience on Lester.
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We learned from Breaking Bad that audiences will accept anything from the main character as long as he's transforming from being a spineless weenie with a nagging wife that doesn't respect him.

Then it becomes a fantasy for every repressed man that wishes he'd done something more with his life.
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Interesting: I hadn't made that connection. The hammer scene seemed so over-the-top unbelievable to me, even more than the cop scene.

Frankly, if I'm a cop, and I think there's a 1% chance some jackass I pull over might kill me, and a 100% chance I live if I let him go, I let him go every time. That's a no brainer, although this mentality may be why I am not a cop.

But to imagine this guy is going to hammer his wife in the head because she said he wasn't a man? Much less believable. There needed to be some middle step in this guy's transformation.
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Did you watch the whole show? Did you see the way his wife treated him on a regular basis? Did you see how his brother treated him and the Bully? Seems Billy bob gave this guy the ''push'' he needed to at least think about standing up for himself....and once he did he crossed the line and snapped. Thats how most murders take place...someone snaps for one brief second

 
datonn said:
Watched the first episode, and it completely blew my expectations for the show (tempered) away. Billy Bob Thornton's character is basically going to be 2014's "Walter White," only with a lot more body bags. Loosely based upon the movie, but quite a bit different than the movie. I'll be watching every week...unless the first episode is >>> what the rest of the series will be like.
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Keep us posted
 
BustedKnuckles said:
Chase Stuart said:
pollardsvision said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
One big difference between this and the movie is that in the movie Jerry creates his own problems with GM and then hatches the kidnapping plot himself. In this show Lester has a big, bad bully and Billy Bob drops into his life from nowhere, introduces the idea of killing Hess and then carries it out without Lester's approval.

Not saying it's good or bad, but it leaves Lester as a much more sympathetic character. Of course he then goes from zero to a million and hammers his wife, but she's such an unrelenting, over-the-top shrew that I still don't think it's turned the audience on Lester.
Click to expand...
We learned from Breaking Bad that audiences will accept anything from the main character as long as he's transforming from being a spineless weenie with a nagging wife that doesn't respect him.

Then it becomes a fantasy for every repressed man that wishes he'd done something more with his life.
Click to expand...
Interesting: I hadn't made that connection. The hammer scene seemed so over-the-top unbelievable to me, even more than the cop scene.

Frankly, if I'm a cop, and I think there's a 1% chance some jackass I pull over might kill me, and a 100% chance I live if I let him go, I let him go every time. That's a no brainer, although this mentality may be why I am not a cop.

But to imagine this guy is going to hammer his wife in the head because she said he wasn't a man? Much less believable. There needed to be some middle step in this guy's transformation.
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Did you watch the whole show? Did you see the way his wife treated him on a regular basis? Did you see how his brother treated him and the Bully? Seems Billy bob gave this guy the ''push'' he needed to at least think about standing up for himself....and once he did he crossed the line and snapped. Thats how most murders take place...someone snaps for one brief second
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20 years ago, I would have agreed with Chase. In today's world that scene is totally believable.

 
BustedKnuckles said:
Chase Stuart said:
pollardsvision said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
One big difference between this and the movie is that in the movie Jerry creates his own problems with GM and then hatches the kidnapping plot himself. In this show Lester has a big, bad bully and Billy Bob drops into his life from nowhere, introduces the idea of killing Hess and then carries it out without Lester's approval.

Not saying it's good or bad, but it leaves Lester as a much more sympathetic character. Of course he then goes from zero to a million and hammers his wife, but she's such an unrelenting, over-the-top shrew that I still don't think it's turned the audience on Lester.
Click to expand...
We learned from Breaking Bad that audiences will accept anything from the main character as long as he's transforming from being a spineless weenie with a nagging wife that doesn't respect him.

Then it becomes a fantasy for every repressed man that wishes he'd done something more with his life.
Click to expand...
Interesting: I hadn't made that connection. The hammer scene seemed so over-the-top unbelievable to me, even more than the cop scene.

Frankly, if I'm a cop, and I think there's a 1% chance some jackass I pull over might kill me, and a 100% chance I live if I let him go, I let him go every time. That's a no brainer, although this mentality may be why I am not a cop.

But to imagine this guy is going to hammer his wife in the head because she said he wasn't a man? Much less believable. There needed to be some middle step in this guy's transformation.
Click to expand...
Did you watch the whole show? Did you see the way his wife treated him on a regular basis? Did you see how his brother treated him and the Bully? Seems Billy bob gave this guy the ''push'' he needed to at least think about standing up for himself....and once he did he crossed the line and snapped. Thats how most murders take place...someone snaps for one brief second
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agreed

 
BustedKnuckles said:
Chase Stuart said:
pollardsvision said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
One big difference between this and the movie is that in the movie Jerry creates his own problems with GM and then hatches the kidnapping plot himself. In this show Lester has a big, bad bully and Billy Bob drops into his life from nowhere, introduces the idea of killing Hess and then carries it out without Lester's approval.

Not saying it's good or bad, but it leaves Lester as a much more sympathetic character. Of course he then goes from zero to a million and hammers his wife, but she's such an unrelenting, over-the-top shrew that I still don't think it's turned the audience on Lester.
Click to expand...
We learned from Breaking Bad that audiences will accept anything from the main character as long as he's transforming from being a spineless weenie with a nagging wife that doesn't respect him.

Then it becomes a fantasy for every repressed man that wishes he'd done something more with his life.
Click to expand...
Interesting: I hadn't made that connection. The hammer scene seemed so over-the-top unbelievable to me, even more than the cop scene.

Frankly, if I'm a cop, and I think there's a 1% chance some jackass I pull over might kill me, and a 100% chance I live if I let him go, I let him go every time. That's a no brainer, although this mentality may be why I am not a cop.

But to imagine this guy is going to hammer his wife in the head because she said he wasn't a man? Much less believable. There needed to be some middle step in this guy's transformation.
Click to expand...
Did you watch the whole show? Did you see the way his wife treated him on a regular basis? Did you see how his brother treated him and the Bully? Seems Billy bob gave this guy the ''push'' he needed to at least think about standing up for himself....and once he did he crossed the line and snapped. Thats how most murders take place...someone snaps for one brief second
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Plus he did hit his brother, so there was a first step. Still, that accelerated quickly.

 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Chase Stuart said:
pollardsvision said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
One big difference between this and the movie is that in the movie Jerry creates his own problems with GM and then hatches the kidnapping plot himself. In this show Lester has a big, bad bully and Billy Bob drops into his life from nowhere, introduces the idea of killing Hess and then carries it out without Lester's approval.

Not saying it's good or bad, but it leaves Lester as a much more sympathetic character. Of course he then goes from zero to a million and hammers his wife, but she's such an unrelenting, over-the-top shrew that I still don't think it's turned the audience on Lester.
Click to expand...
We learned from Breaking Bad that audiences will accept anything from the main character as long as he's transforming from being a spineless weenie with a nagging wife that doesn't respect him.

Then it becomes a fantasy for every repressed man that wishes he'd done something more with his life.
Click to expand...
Interesting: I hadn't made that connection. The hammer scene seemed so over-the-top unbelievable to me, even more than the cop scene.

Frankly, if I'm a cop, and I think there's a 1% chance some jackass I pull over might kill me, and a 100% chance I live if I let him go, I let him go every time. That's a no brainer, although this mentality may be why I am not a cop.

But to imagine this guy is going to hammer his wife in the head because she said he wasn't a man? Much less believable. There needed to be some middle step in this guy's transformation.
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Did you watch the whole show? Did you see the way his wife treated him on a regular basis? Did you see how his brother treated him and the Bully? Seems Billy bob gave this guy the ''push'' he needed to at least think about standing up for himself....and once he did he crossed the line and snapped. Thats how most murders take place...someone snaps for one brief second
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Plus he did hit his brother, so there was a first step. Still, that accelerated quickly.
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most murders do

 
identikit said:
JohnnyU said:
identikit said:
For the geographically challenged nitpickers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fargo%E2%80%93Moorhead
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That would be great info if the movie or the series were based upon Moorhead, MN or Fargo, ND.
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The difference between various locations is negligible (like Fargo-Moorehead) IMO.

It's a nitpick on what looks to be a promising television show.
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It's not a big deal, I just wondered earlier why they called the series or the movie Fargo when nothing is about, or takes place in Fargo, ND. Perhaps we can just say it's a several hundred mile radius cultural thing and be done with it.

 
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I loved the movie and the new show looks promising, but I can say that living here in Minnesota, the locals here hated the movie. I'm not sure how they will feel about the series, but their complaint is that it is way over the top with the accent and phrases. A good example of that would be the girl getting banged from behind by the guy that got the knife in the head. Her "Yah, yah, yah" was a little much to say the least. Having said that, I'm a huge Billy Bob fan and I also like Colin Hanks. Of course the girl cop and Lester characters looks promising too.

 
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JohnnyU said:
I loved the movie and the new show looks promising, but I can say that living here in Minnesota, the locals here hated the movie. I'm not sure how they will feel about the series, but their complaint is that it is way over the top with the accent and phrases. A good example of that would be the girl getting banged from behind by the guy that got the knife in the head. Her "Yah, yah, yah" was a little much to say the least.
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Depends on what part.. Down here in the Twin Cities area, the "Ya betcha" and other "Talking Minnesota" can be a bit much.

But I was born in Bemidji and still have relatives that live up there... When I visit that area I feel like I'm in the Movie/T.V. Show. ;)

 
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JohnnyU said:
I loved the movie and the new show looks promising, but I can say that living here in Minnesota, the locals here hated the movie. I'm not sure how they will feel about the series, but their complaint is that it is way over the top with the accent and phrases. A good example of that would be the girl getting banged from behind by the guy that got the knife in the head. Her "Yah, yah, yah" was a little much to say the least.
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They need to get over it. I lived in Western WI for 18 years and didn't think anyone there had an accent. Now when I visit almost everyone sounds like a character from that movie.

 
BustedKnuckles said:
Did you watch the whole show? Did you see the way his wife treated him on a regular basis? Did you see how his brother treated him and the Bully? Seems Billy bob gave this guy the ''push'' he needed to at least think about standing up for himself....and once he did he crossed the line and snapped. Thats how most murders take place...someone snaps for one brief second
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I did. I felt like the first half of the show spent too much time beating us over the head about the fact that the wife treated him like garbage and he was a loser. Some of that came together in the second half, which I found much better. And I understand the push and all that.

Not a big deal, but it just seemed like he went from 0 to 60 too quickly. Is that really how most murders take place? Just seeing him snap like that was a little much for me. I seem to be in the minority, tho. In any event, I look forward to seeing where this goes next episode.

 
Chase Stuart said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Did you watch the whole show? Did you see the way his wife treated him on a regular basis? Did you see how his brother treated him and the Bully? Seems Billy bob gave this guy the ''push'' he needed to at least think about standing up for himself....and once he did he crossed the line and snapped. Thats how most murders take place...someone snaps for one brief second
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I did. I felt like the first half of the show spent too much time beating us over the head about the fact that the wife treated him like garbage and he was a loser. Some of that came together in the second half, which I found much better. And I understand the push and all that.

Not a big deal, but it just seemed like he went from 0 to 60 too quickly. Is that really how most murders take place? Just seeing him snap like that was a little much for me. I seem to be in the minority, tho. In any event, I look forward to seeing where this goes next episode.
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I get your point but I'm sure they were attempting to have an exciting pilot with lots of stuff to draw in the viewer. No show is without its leaps of faith.

Overall, I loved the episode!

:blackdot:

 
Disco Stu said:
JohnnyU said:
I loved the movie and the new show looks promising, but I can say that living here in Minnesota, the locals here hated the movie. I'm not sure how they will feel about the series, but their complaint is that it is way over the top with the accent and phrases. A good example of that would be the girl getting banged from behind by the guy that got the knife in the head. Her "Yah, yah, yah" was a little much to say the least.
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They need to get over it. I lived in Western WI for 18 years and didn't think anyone there had an accent. Now when I visit almost everyone sounds like a character from that movie.
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My sister lived in Hudson, WI the last time I saw (or heard) from her and she had a HORRIBLE "doncha know" accent. Just brutal.

 
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BustedKnuckles said:
pollardsvision said:
fatness said:
BustedKnuckles said:
I thought the scene between Billy Bob and the cop who pulled him over(Colin Hanks ) was riveting...i may try that if i ever get pulled over ...not
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I thought that scene was not good. The show was a string of improbable events, but that one stuck out as far more improbable than the others. Seemed like an attempt at a Chuck Norris type joke. But it's all subjective and I can understand why someone else would like it.
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Certainly, it's a pretty far-fetched scene, but I thought it was executed well enough to just go with it.
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i see it as a way to show that Billy Bob`s character is afraid of nothing and will kill anyone he feels like killing..
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I find myself wondering how Dirty Harry would have handled that situation ...or Raylan Givens lol

 
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Well they kept the intensity up through another episode. This going to be a great 10-episode mini-series. Surprisingly the most uninteresting characters so far are Martin Freeman and Bob Odenkirk.

 
I thought the intensity was pretty lacking in the second episode. Several new characters and story lines introduced, not a lot of surprise drama. More like rearranging furniture to set things up for the future (hopefully).

 
Still great I thought. It plays more like a movie than a series. Is that the deal - it's a 10 part miniseries and then done?

 
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Still great I thought. It plays more like a movie than a series. Is that the deal - it's a 10 part miniseries and then done?
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I'm wondering if they will follow the American Horror Story model and do different stories/characters for subsequent seasons....

 
fatness said:
I thought the intensity was pretty lacking in the second episode. Several new characters and story lines introduced, not a lot of surprise drama. More like rearranging furniture to set things up for the future (hopefully).
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agreed ,especially compared to last weeks episode...but you can see they are setting things up for a lot of ebb and flow regarding the intensity of each episode

 
BustedKnuckles said:
fatness said:
I thought the intensity was pretty lacking in the second episode. Several new characters and story lines introduced, not a lot of surprise drama. More like rearranging furniture to set things up for the future (hopefully).
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agreed ,especially compared to last weeks episode...but you can see they are setting things up for a lot of ebb and flow regarding the intensity of each episode
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I hope you're right. Disappointing episode after such a strong pilot. A few more like this last one and I'm out.

 
Juxtatarot said:
BustedKnuckles said:
fatness said:
I thought the intensity was pretty lacking in the second episode. Several new characters and story lines introduced, not a lot of surprise drama. More like rearranging furniture to set things up for the future (hopefully).
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agreed ,especially compared to last weeks episode...but you can see they are setting things up for a lot of ebb and flow regarding the intensity of each episode
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I hope you're right. Disappointing episode after such a strong pilot. A few more like this last one and I'm out.
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Jesus, touch crowd.
 
In the previews for week 3, did they really show the new police chief deliberately running into a wall the way Nygard did? It was quick but I thought I saw that.

Funniest moment of the first 2 weeks for me is still the chunky policewoman flying through the air to stop the one kid from beating the other kid with the shovel.

 
fatness said:
In the previews for week 3, did they really show the new police chief deliberately running into a wall the way Nygard did? It was quick but I thought I saw that.

Funniest moment of the first 2 weeks for me is still the chunky policewoman flying through the air to stop the one kid from beating the other kid with the shovel.
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Aww jeez...it was a Hockey stick dontchya know

 
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