Weird Idea: Dynasty League Rookie Allocations (1 Viewer)

First... NOT my idea, but sort of interesting and something I wanted to pass along and see if anyone would join a league like this.

I was having lunch with a friend who is also into FF and he said he wants to start a dynasty league that would have all sorts of weird and oddball rules which would make it totally unique. One of his ideas was to not have rookie drafts in Year 2 and beyond, but instead have rookie 'allocations.'

It would work like this.

His 12 team league would determine rookie allocation order in the way any league would determine draft order (but see below for his twist***).

Then, instead of having a rookie draft, there would be a five round non-serpentine allocation where the first 60 QB, RB, WR, TE taken in the NFL draft would also be allocated onto the dynasty teams in the same order. So, owners watching the NFL draft would see who they are getting as the NFL draft takes place.

The NFL-drafted players after the first 60, plus all UDFAs, would then be bid on in a one time blind bid process by anyone interested, and after each team had its 5 allocated players plus its bid acquisitions they would cut down to their favorite 4 and the rest would get tossed back into the FA pool.

Would anyone here join a league that did this?

(*** his idea for determining allocation order was to order 7th through 12th like most leagues do, using some sort of regular season record and/or playoff finish to determine order for those spots, but for 1st through 6th he would place them in reverse order. In other words, the worst team would be 6th in the allocation order and the team that just missed the playoffs would get the #1 allocation spot. The reasoning was that this would guarantee tanking to finish with a worse record would never take place, and all teams would be as competitive as possible to the end, since it would not be beneficial for allocations order purposes to finish lower. I sort of liked this idea.)

So in 2014, it would have gone like this:

1 Bortles, Blake JAC Q-14 R1/03 to #7 team
2 Watkins, Sammy BUF W-14 R1/04 to #8 team
3 Evans, Mike TB W-14 R1/07 to #9 team
4 Ebron, Eric DET T-14 R1/10 to #10 team
5 Beckham Jr., Odell NYG W-14 R1/12 to #11 team
6 Cooks, Brandin NO W-14 R1/20 to #12 team
7 Manziel, Johnny CLE Q-14 R1/22 to #6 team
8 Benjamin, Kelvin CAR W-14 R1/28 to #5 team
9 Bridgewater, Teddy MIN Q-14 R1/32 to #4 team
10 Carr, Derek OAK Q-14 R2/36 to #3 team
11 Seferian-Jenkins, Austin TB T-14 R2/38 to #2 team
12 Lee, Marqise JAC W-14 R2/39 to #1 team

13 Matthews, Jordan PHI W-14 R2/42 to #7 team
14 Richardson, Paul SEA W-14 R2/45 to #8 team
15 Amaro, Jace NYJ T-14 R2/49 to #9 team
16 Niklas, Troy ARI T-14 R2/52 to #10 team
17 Adams, Davante GB W-14 R2/53 to #11 team
18 Sankey, Bishop TEN R-14 R2/54 to #12 team
19 Hill, Jeremy CIN R-14 R2/55 to #6 team
20 Latimer, Cody DEN W-14 R2/56 to #5 team
21 Hyde, Carlos SF R-14 R2/57 to #4 team
22 Robinson, Allen JAC W-14 R2/61 to #3 team
23 Garoppolo, Jimmy NE Q-14 R2/62 to #2 team
24 Landry, Jarvis MIA W-14 R2/63 to #1 team

25 Fiedorowicz, C.J. HOU T-14 R3/65 to #7 team
26 Sims, Charles TB R-14 R3/69 to #8 team
27 Mason, Tre STL R-14 R3/75 to #9 team
28 Huff, Josh PHI W-14 R3/86 to #10 team
29 Moncrief, Donte IND W-14 R3/90 to #11 team
30 Brown, John ARI W-14 R3/91 to #12 team
31 West, Terrance CLE R-14 R3/94 to #6 team
32 McKinnon, Jerick MIN R-14 R3/96 to #5 team
33 Archer, Dri PIT R-14 R3/97 to #4 team
34 Rodgers, Richard GB T-14 R3/98 to #3 team
35 Gillmore, Crockett BAL T-14 R3/99 to #2 team
36 Freeman, Devonta ATL R-14 R4/103 to #1 team

37 Saunders, Jalen NYJ W-14 R4/104 to #7 team
38 Ellington, Bruce SF W-14 R4/106 to #8 team
39 Williams, Andre NYG R-14 R4/113 to #9 team
40 Evans, Shaq NYJ W-14 R4/115 to #10 team
41 Carey, Ka'Deem CHI R-14 R4/117 to #11 team
42 Bryant, Martavis PIT W-14 R4/118 to #12 team
43 Thomas, Logan ARI Q-14 R4/120 to #6 team
44 Norwood, Kevin SEA W-14 R4/123 to #5 team
45 Thomas, De'Anthony KC R-14 R4/124 to #4 team
46 White, James NE R-14 R4/130 to #3 team
47 Savage, Tom HOU Q-14 R4/135 to #2 team
48 Taliaferro, Lorenzo BAL R-14 R4/138 to #1 team

49 Grant, Ryan WAS W-14 R5/142 to #7 team
50 Street, Devin DAL W-14 R5/146 to #8 team
51 Lynch, Arthur MIA T-14 R5/155 to #9 team
52 Murray, Aaron KC Q-14 R5/163 to #10 team
53 McCarron, A.J. CIN Q-14 R5/164 to #11 team
54 Abbrederis, Jared GB W-14 R5/176 to #12 team
55 Mettenberger, Zach TEN Q-14 R6/178 to #6 team
56 Blue, Alfred HOU R-14 R6/181 to #5 team
57 Fales, David CHI Q-14 R6/183 to #4 team
58 Herron, Robert TB W-14 R6/185 to #3 team
59 Seastrunk, Lache WAS R-14 R6/186 to #2 team
60 Jones, TJ DET W-14 R6/189 to #1 team

NFL-Drafted but Unallocated
Wenning, Keith BAL Q-14 R6/194
Powell, Walter ARI W-14 R6/196
Grice, Marion SD R-14 R6/201
Gaffney, Tyler CAR R-14 R6/204
Enunwa, Quincy NYJ W-14 R6/209
Prosch, Jay HOU F-14 R6/211
Boyd, Tajh NYJ Q-14 R6/213
Gilbert, Garrett STL Q-14 R6/214
Bolser, Ted WAS T-14 R7/217
Campanaro, Michael BAL W-14 R7/218
Johnson, Storm JAC R-14 R7/222
Small, Kiero SEA F-14 R7/227
Blanchflower, Rob PIT T-14 R7/230
Janis, Jeff GB W-14 R7/236
Wright, James CIN W-14 R7/239
Reese, Tevin SD W-14 R7/240
Gallon, Jeremy NE W-14 R7/244
Millard, Trey SF F-14 R7/245


**** Rookie allocations by fantasy team: ****

to #7 team
1 Bortles, Blake JAC Q-14 R1/03
1 Matthews, Jordan PHI W-14 R2/42
1 Fiedorowicz, C.J. HOU T-14 R3/65
1 Saunders, Jalen NYJ W-14 R4/104
1 Grant, Ryan WAS W-14 R5/142

to #8 team
2 Watkins, Sammy BUF W-14 R1/04
2 Richardson, Paul SEA W-14 R2/45
2 Sims, Charles TB R-14 R3/69
2 Ellington, Bruce SF W-14 R4/106
2 Street, Devin DAL W-14 R5/146

to #9 team
3 Evans, Mike TB W-14 R1/07
3 Amaro, Jace NYJ T-14 R2/49
3 Mason, Tre STL R-14 R3/75
3 Williams, Andre NYG R-14 R4/113
3 Lynch, Arthur MIA T-14 R5/155

to #10 team
4 Ebron, Eric DET T-14 R1/10
4 Niklas, Troy ARI T-14 R2/52
4 Huff, Josh PHI W-14 R3/86
4 Evans, Shaq NYJ W-14 R4/115
4 Murray, Aaron KC Q-14 R5/163

to #11 team
5 Beckham Jr., Odell NYG W-14 R1/12
5 Adams, Davante GB W-14 R2/53
5 Moncrief, Donte IND W-14 R3/90
5 Carey, Ka'Deem CHI R-14 R4/117
5 McCarron, A.J. CIN Q-14 R5/164

to #12 team
6 Cooks, Brandin NO W-14 R1/20
6 Sankey, Bishop TEN R-14 R2/54
6 Brown, John ARI W-14 R3/91
6 Bryant, Martavis PIT W-14 R4/118
6 Abbrederis, Jared GB W-14 R5/176

to #6 team
7 Manziel, Johnny CLE Q-14 R1/22
7 Hill, Jeremy CIN R-14 R2/55
7 West, Terrance CLE R-14 R3/94
7 Thomas, Logan ARI Q-14 R4/120
7 Mettenberger, Zach TEN Q-14 R6/178

to #5 team
8 Benjamin, Kelvin CAR W-14 R1/28
8 Latimer, Cody DEN W-14 R2/56
8 McKinnon, Jerick MIN R-14 R3/96
8 Norwood, Kevin SEA W-14 R4/123
8 Blue, Alfred HOU R-14 R6/181

to #4 team
9 Bridgewater, Teddy MIN Q-14 R1/32
9 Hyde, Carlos SF R-14 R2/57
9 Archer, Dri PIT R-14 R3/97
9 Thomas, De'Anthony KC R-14 R4/124
9 Fales, David CHI Q-14 R6/183

to #3 team
10 Carr, Derek OAK Q-14 R2/36
10 Robinson, Allen JAC W-14 R2/61
10 Rodgers, Richard GB T-14 R3/98
10 White, James NE R-14 R4/130
10 Herron, Robert TB W-14 R6/185

to #2 team
11 Seferian-Jenkins, Austin TB T-14 R2/38
11 Garoppolo, Jimmy NE Q-14 R2/62
11 Gillmore, Crockett BAL T-14 R3/99
11 Savage, Tom HOU Q-14 R4/135
11 Seastrunk, Lache WAS R-14 R6/186

to #1 team
12 Lee, Marqise JAC W-14 R2/39
12 Landry, Jarvis MIA W-14 R2/63
12 Freeman, Devonta ATL R-14 R4/103
12 Taliaferro, Lorenzo BAL R-14 R4/138
12 Jones, TJ DET W-14 R6/189

i'm all for creative ideas but this one's pretty bad.

The problem I see is that the worst teams would always get the QB's while the playoff teams would consistently land the top RB's.

Bruce Hammond said:

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Would anyone here join a league that did this?

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I personally would not, I enjoy the research and excitement of my dynasty rookie drafts. Although, it would make the NFL draft more interesting, especially if you could get the owners together to watch.

Could do this but I see the following two options being used:

1. Teams can designate which position (secretly) as to which they get first. So, the worst team can designate a RB and even if a WR or QB gets picked before a RB... the team gets the first RB selected. And, so on and so on.

2. Teams can assign or choose to "opt in" in the following way. By default if one team has there first two allocations be a WR, the fantasy team can say he only wants a maximum of two WR rookies. So, if his first two allocations are WR and he chose to only "receive" two, and his third allocation comes up a WR, that WR is skipped and the next position player goes onto the fantasy team. If a QB is the allocation than the team receives that QB.

So, rookies would still be allocated however the owner still has some "choice" in the positions.

flc735 said:

The problem I see is that the worst teams would always get the QB's while the playoff teams would consistently land the top RB's.

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i had no reason to add this to the first post, but he also described some model he had created to even the scoring components to balance FP across positions based on the last 5 years' scoring (essentially VBD perhaps, though he's never heard of VBD), and then to make lineups all flex including QBs. So, he reasoned, lineup decisions would all be performance driven, not position driven. I didn't see his model or details of his plan, but presumably this would eliminate the issue you correctly raise.

My friend is something of a genius in his field and thinks way outside the box a lot of the time. Fun guy to be around, but sometimes the mad scientist approach is just sort of mad. That's why I brought this thread up, to see if has merit to others. I like picking my own guys, but I might be in ONE oddball league among a dozen that does stuff like this.

He also has this weird idea that a MLB team would be better off not having starters and relievers per se, but having instead every pitcher go no more than 2-3 innings and rotating them as starters and relievers. This way batters would not see the same pitcher nearly as often and pitchers would have the advantage. Just one other example. I told him that was nuts or teams would be doing it. He grinned, said that's what is said of any innovation. I had no comeback other than I think arms would fall off by midseason.

Kind of defeats much of the purpose of a dynasty team if you have no control over the rookies you draft.

EastonBlues22 said:

Kind of defeats much of the purpose of a dynasty team if you have no control over the rookies you draft.

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Very true and of course that was my argument. His retort was that we do ourselves more harm than good trying to outguess the millions of dollars that go into scouting and drafting by teams, that we should just take the allocations based on NFL draft order. Then trade like mad if we want, but at least this process won't have guys drafting some over-hyped 6th round RB ahead of a perfectly good 2nd round WR.

He's also a nut for the NFL draft, has attended it in NYC a couple times, and loves the idea of linking the NFL draft with fantasy as it is ongoing. Big draw for him, more than sitting through the process of a rookie draft.

Again, I agree with you and I love drafting and making my own decisions. I think I might join a league if he ever gets one going though just for all the strange differences.

Bruce Hammond said:

EastonBlues22 said:

Kind of defeats much of the purpose of a dynasty team if you have no control over the rookies you draft.

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Very true and of course that was my argument. His retort was that we do ourselves more harm than good trying to outguess the millions that go into scouting and drafting by teams, that we should just take the allocations based on NFL draft order. Then trade like mad if we want, but at least this process won't have guys drafting some over-hyped 6th round RB ahead of a perfectly good 2nd round WR.

He's also a nut for the NFL draft, has attended it in NYC a couple times, and loves linking the NFL draft with fantasy is it is ongoing. Big draw for him, more than sitting through the process of a rookie draft.

Again, I agree and I love drafting and making my own decisions. I think I might join a league if he ever gets one going just for all the strange differences.

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Some of us might do more harm than good by substituting our own judgment for the NFL's, but it's obviously impossible for all of us to do more harm than good. In general, the good owners (many of whom factor draft position into their own final rookie rankings) will come out ahead, and the bad owners will fall behind.

If you try to level the playing field by making the draft a random affair, then those owners who are the best traders will simply be the ones who end up coming out ahead. If the bad owners couldn't identify the talent well enough to draft it, they certainly won't value it highly enough to keep it, or to get fair value for it in a trade.

Why do the first 6 allocations get awarded to the previous season's playoff teams? I think the team allocation should go: 6,5,4,3,2,1,7,8,9,10,11,12. I don't understand the reasoning for awarding the playoff teams with the first 6 slots.

Eh, sounds intriguing and I suppose it might be fun and interesting, but I couldn't get on board with having the last place team get the 12th NFL drafted fantasy relevant rookie.

Ruffrodys05 said:

Why do the first 6 allocations get awarded to the previous season's playoff teams? I think the team allocation should go: 6,5,4,3,2,1,7,8,9,10,11,12. I don't understand the reasoning for awarding the playoff teams with the first 6 slots.

Eh, sounds intriguing and I suppose it might be fun and interesting, but I couldn't get on board with having the last place team get the 12th NFL drafted fantasy relevant rookie.

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A misunderstanding here somewhere. The champ drafts last, runner up 11th, etc, on up through the 6 playoff teams. It's only the teams that finish 7th-12th that are allocated in reverse order of season finish. Maybe I was unclear in the OP.

Ah, got it now....sorry, was confused.....

One thing that me and a group tried was to allocate point values for rookie picks and instead of having a draft for the rookie players we had an auction.

Most of the players hated it. But they were not experienced with auctions either. Trading for $(auction points) was confusing to most.

I don't think random assignment of players based on their draft position being a good way to allocate the players to teams. FF owners want some control over that decision I think. This removes a lot of the fun of researching/decision making and I think a lot of the reasons that make FF so interesting.

While having a yearly lottery is something I think owners would adapt to and find ways to work around it, or make it work to their advantage. You could trade for other teams future picks and perhaps try to position yourself for specific players based off of mock drafts/expected draft position of players, but that would be quite a crap shoot.

There might be more trading as people would get players they maybe do not like. So after the draft you might have a bunch of players changing teams, which I could see being fun.

For dynasty one of the main drawbacks of the format compared to redraft, is only having one main draft, then the rookie drafts. People still enjoy drafting. Being able to start something new. If you take away the rookie draft in dynasty then you are never drafting again, this seems like it could lead to owners losing interest, with the draft for the most part taken out of their hands.

One thing is I don't think reversing the non-playoff teams' order would be a good idea. Yes, it discourages tanking, but the rookie draft is meant to serve as a parity mechanism, and if a truly dreadful team ever forms, it'll never get better picking 6th. I used to use a similar tool to assign the #1 draft pick, but what always happened was a dominant team had some terrible schedule luck, just missed the playoffs, and walked away with the #1 pick for their troubles. The rich got a lot richer for a few years until I discarded the system and started using "potential points" to determine draft order.

Since we're talking about crazy rookie draft ideas, though... I once had the idea for a rookie draft where everyone voted who each rookie went to, with the stipulation that teams couldn't vote for themselves. The thinking is that nobody wants to make a good team better, so they'd vote the top rookies onto the worst teams. If one team was truly head and shoulders below the rest, they might get all of the top 5 rookies. If a few bad teams stand out, they might split most of the good rookies between them. Assign the top 12 rookies (by ADP), and then hold a draft for the rest, with the stipulation that anyone who got a rookie assigned loses their first-round pick.

Bruce Hammond said:

flc735 said:

The problem I see is that the worst teams would always get the QB's while the playoff teams would consistently land the top RB's.

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i had no reason to add this to the first post, but he also described some model he had created to even the scoring components to balance FP across positions based on the last 5 years' scoring (essentially VBD perhaps, though he's never heard of VBD), and then to make lineups all flex including QBs. So, he reasoned, lineup decisions would all be performance driven, not position driven. I didn't see his model or details of his plan, but presumably this would eliminate the issue you correctly raise.

My friend is something of a genius in his field and thinks way outside the box a lot of the time. Fun guy to be around, but sometimes the mad scientist approach is just sort of mad. That's why I brought this thread up, to see if has merit to others. I like picking my own guys, but I might be in ONE oddball league among a dozen that does stuff like this.

He also has this weird idea that a MLB team would be better off not having starters and relievers per se, but having instead every pitcher go no more than 2-3 innings and rotating them as starters and relievers. This way batters would not see the same pitcher nearly as often and pitchers would have the advantage. Just one other example. I told him that was nuts or teams would be doing it. He grinned, said that's what is said of any innovation. I had no comeback other than I think arms would fall off by midseason.

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I like the idea of a league where every starting spot is a superflex spot. I actually considered starting a league like that last offseason (and only decided not to because I didn't want to start a new league). You just need to tinker with the scoring a bit so that QBs aren't too far ahead of everyone else (I think my plan was something like 3/PaTD, -3/TO, -0.1/SkYd), and probably give TEs a bit of a bonus.

It would really open up the trading market and make it all about valuing individual players. You're not in a situation where only 2 teams would even consider trading for a high-end QB, or where you desperately have to add a TE after yours got knocked out for the season. Every owner is at least potentially interested in players at any position. It's all about getting the best players, whatever positions they play.

I agree with many of the posters that this idea won't fly with most dynasty owners anymore than have everyone just use "auto draft" to choose or build their teams. The best parts about being in a dynasty league (or any fantasy league) is a) the initial or rookie draft and b) trading - which in most cases involves picks. I don't know the stats but I would estimate that 70-80% of all trades involve picks on one or both sides; this would mean that trading would decrease significantly because it's hard to find agreement involving just swapping players

Here's a quote from a recent article in DLF: "I asked the DLF faithful what the most satisfying part of being in a dynasty league was and fully expected the answer of “winning a championship” to be the runaway winner. After all, that’s why we all play this game, right? I was wrong by a wide margin as the dominating winner of the poll was something I didn’t expect – the overwhelming majority of people cited “the unearthing of a deep sleeper” as a the most gratifying part of being in a dynasty league." I love the fact that I picked up Mike Evans in my devy league after others had taken - D'Anthony Thomas, Brandon Coleman, Lache Seastrunk, James Wilder and Silas Redd!

I imagine it would add to the excitement of the actual draft...imagine sitting at home knowing you owned the first pick and waiting to see who you would get. "With the first overall pick in the 2007 draft, the Oakland Raiders select Jamarcus Russell, quarterback, Louisiana State University" - thank you very much! Of course, a few years later they made up for that by selecting Darrius Heyward-Bey with the 7th pick and he was the first WR chosen over Crabtree, Harvin, Maclin, Nicks... So, maybe leaving it up to the NFL executives to protect us against ourselves isn't such a good idea after all.

Adam Harstad said:

One thing is I don't think reversing the non-playoff teams' order would be a good idea. Yes, it discourages tanking, but the rookie draft is meant to serve as a parity mechanism, and if a truly dreadful team ever forms, it'll never get better picking 6th. I used to use a similar tool to assign the #1 draft pick, but what always happened was a dominant team had some terrible schedule luck, just missed the playoffs, and walked away with the #1 pick for their troubles. The rich got a lot richer for a few years until I discarded the system and started using "potential points" to determine draft order.

Since we're talking about crazy rookie draft ideas, though... I once had the idea for a rookie draft where everyone voted who each rookie went to, with the stipulation that teams couldn't vote for themselves. The thinking is that nobody wants to make a good team better, so they'd vote the top rookies onto the worst teams. If one team was truly head and shoulders below the rest, they might get all of the top 5 rookies. If a few bad teams stand out, they might split most of the good rookies between them. Assign the top 12 rookies (by ADP), and then hold a draft for the rest, with the stipulation that anyone who got a rookie assigned loses their first-round pick.

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A lottery would be better than reversing the top 6.

I'd go super flex instead of all flex.

All flex would limit trading.

Don't like the voting idea.

I like this idea a ton. Too many FF players overrate drafting and trading (especially their skill at doing both) because it makes them feel like "real' GMs, not because it actually is the best way to acquire Talent. (There is also the American freedom of choice thing).

BTW, the person at the number #1 who looked liked, he or she "drafted 6th' had the best talent acquisition since both cooks and Sankey are largely going in the 1st half of the 1st round of drafts regardless of formats. This is really luck of the draft and adds more randomness which the luck versus skill crowd would hate.

coolnerd said:

I like this idea a ton. Too many FF players overrate drafting and trading (especially their skill at doing both) because it makes them feel like "real' GMs, not because it actually is the best way to acquire Talent. (There is also the American freedom of choice thing).

BTW, the person at the number #1 who looked liked, he or she "drafted 6th' had the best talent acquisition since both cooks and Sankey are largely going in the 1st half of the 1st round of drafts regardless of formats. This is really luck of the draft and adds more randomness which the luck versus skill crowd would hate.

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Let freedom ring!

Why is everybody looking for ways to take away people's control of their team? Forced trading. Forced allocations. Forced choice of youth or vets.

Would never join a league like these.

wdcrob said:

Why is everybody looking for ways to take away people's control of their team? Forced trading. Forced allocations. Forced choice of youth or vets.

Would never join a league like these.

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I wouldn't say everybody. It's the post-draft, pre-camp doldrums and one friend had a new idea and I shared it, that's all. Conversation, opinions. No biggie.

I think it's cool that we have a hobby in which we can be in one or a hundred leagues, with so much variety that if you choose to they can all be different. We're not locked into standardization and there's plenty of room for creativity, and that's been a big enjoyment for me over the years. So, I can join a draft-and-forget thing, I can do a best ball, a keeper, redraft, dynasty, etc.etc.etc...

And I can maybe join my friend's wacky oddball league conception if he ever gets it off the ground. Yes this allocation concept is weird, and I look forward to seeing the other weird things he has in store. While my core set of leagues will always be along the lines of the HyperActive leagues or something similar and more or less normal, and I'll get to do plenty of rookie drafts (I've just finished my 6th one this season), there's nothing wrong with maybe making room for something really out there like this to add to the mix, and perhaps add a little extra intrigue to watching the NFL draft.

I LOVE drafting. I would never join a league where I didn't have the opportunity to draft. Rookie drafts are awesome. Who would want to give that up?

How 'bout the number of pimples on your ### determines how many picks you get?

Great idea!

Amirite!!!?!

spider321 said:

How 'bout the number of pimples on your ### determines how many picks you get?

Great idea!

Amirite!!!?!

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yeah, but who would want to count? Also, what would happen if someone farted on the counter?

kutta said:

I LOVE drafting. I would never join a league where I didn't have the opportunity to draft. Rookie drafts are awesome. Who would want to give that up?

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I would be totally for it, except for the one-letter abbreviations for positions. That would just kill it. I just can't wrap my head around Q,R,W,T. I'm just too dumb or old.

Topes said:

I would be totally for it, except for the one-letter abbreviations for positions. That would just kill it. I just can't wrap my head around Q,R,W,T. I'm just too dumb or old.

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Those are copy/pastes from the spreadsheet I keep. I think people can figure out W-14 means 'wide receiver drafted in 2014.'

But for the dumb old crowd (kidding, you said it not me!): QB, RB, WR, TE. All good.

I kind of like it. I'd be in a league like this just for the benefit of making the NFL draft even more entertaining. I'd definitely not be in a league like this if I was only able to be in one. (Or 3)

Another interesting twist (too complicated, perhaps) would be to draw a team for each position. Owners chose which position's drawing to be a part of. Before the draft you draw a team for each position. QB: Team 3, RB: Team 8, WR: Team 2, TE: Team 11. Then, the first RB goes to Team 3 and you draw another team for the next one.

I was thinking about this.

What if you did the same thing not for the rookie draft but for college players? So random assignment of developmental players based on how they are ranked or something like that?

Then you would still have the rookie draft as normal, except that there would already be many of those players already rostered from the previous lottery.

Then I had an even stranger idea.

What if you had a fantasy league that allowed you to start both nfl and college players?

For example you could start 1nfl/1college QB and 1 flex QB. 2nfl/2college RB and 1 flex RB. 3 nfl/3college WR and 1 flex WR. 1nfl/1collegeTE and 1 flex.

Yes I realize college stats are not the same as nfl stats. But since we are talking about strange ideas, why not?

If everyone has the same starting options I don't see a huge problem with this. You would be able to keep college players you have on your roster when they enter the nfl.