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Resort Fees - how are these still legal? (1 Viewer)

BillyBarooo

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They are out of control. You cannot stay anywhere near the strip in Vegas without a resort fee that is sometimes higher than the regular room rate. What exactly do you get for these? Use of the pool? wifi? gym access? what if I don't want any of those?

It's so clearly just a money grab and a way to cloak the actual nightly rate. Now that it's a monkey-see maneuver similar to the airline fees, you can't escape them in most major tourist areas. At least with the airline fees you sometimes get better seats or faster boarding. The hotel fees give the consumer absolutely zero value. Where and to whom do i write an angry letter?

 
BillyBarooo said:
They are out of control. You cannot stay anywhere near the strip in Vegas without a resort fee that is sometimes higher than the regular room rate. What exactly do you get for these? Use of the pool? wifi? gym access? what if I don't want any of those?

It's so clearly just a money grab and a way to cloak the actual nightly rate. Now that it's a monkey-see maneuver similar to the airline fees, you can't escape them in most major tourist areas. At least with the airline fees you sometimes get better seats or faster boarding. The hotel fees give the consumer absolutely zero value. Where and to whom do i write an angry letter?
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the hotel. Good luck with that.

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What's the difference if it's segregated out as a resort fee or just lumped in the nightly fee? You're still paying it.

Same thinking applies to airline baggage fees. I always laugh when I see the news do a report on them.

 
Had those at TI. $27 a day.

For the complementary Wifi, 2 for 1 buffet, daily newspaper, gym access, and 2-1 cocktail per day I wasn't that hacked off by it and I'm notoriously cheap

 
eoMMan said:
What's the difference if it's segregated out as a resort fee or just lumped in the nightly fee? You're still paying it.

Same thinking applies to airline baggage fees. I always laugh when I see the news do a report on them.
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At least when it is lumped into the nightly fee you are aware of it before you arrive at the hotel...

 
It's a game the vegas hotels are playing to generate traffic on travel sites. Instead of charging $99 a night they are doing $49 a night with a $50 fee. This way when you you search Expedia or the like you show up at $49 when someone searches by price.

So dumb but a new reality.

 
The Ref said:
It's a game the vegas hotels are playing to generate traffic on travel sites. Instead of charging $99 a night they are doing $49 a night with a $50 fee. This way when you you search Expedia or the like you show up at $49 when someone searches by price.

So dumb but a new reality.
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Hit the nail on the head :goodposting:

 
sbonomo said:
The Ref said:
It's a game the vegas hotels are playing to generate traffic on travel sites. Instead of charging $99 a night they are doing $49 a night with a $50 fee. This way when you you search Expedia or the like you show up at $49 when someone searches by price.

So dumb but a new reality.
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Hit the nail on the head :goodposting:
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If it wasn't hidden in the fine print I would be ok with it. I got hit blindsided by this before. They are also playing these games with parking rates. You get a good deal on a room on Priceline only to get hit for $60 a day for parking. $78 for the room, $60 for parking. What BS.

 
BillyBarooo said:
They are out of control. You cannot stay anywhere near the strip in Vegas without a resort fee that is sometimes higher than the regular room rate. What exactly do you get for these? Use of the pool? wifi? gym access? what if I don't want any of those?

It's so clearly just a money grab and a way to cloak the actual nightly rate. Now that it's a monkey-see maneuver similar to the airline fees, you can't escape them in most major tourist areas. At least with the airline fees you sometimes get better seats or faster boarding. The hotel fees give the consumer absolutely zero value. Where and to whom do i write an angry letter?
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Dad?

One year my dad was thinking he was going a bit cheaper by staying at Mirage but after the resort fees, he found he could have stayed at a nicer place for not much more. lol.

 
:shrug: Complain about it. Loudly if you have to. They absolutely can negotiate it down or eliminate it if it's not a local tax. If they won't budge, tell them you're calling your credit card to refuse payment on any fees that weren't disclosed at the time of booking.
 
The Ref said:
It's a game the vegas hotels are playing to generate traffic on travel sites. Instead of charging $99 a night they are doing $49 a night with a $50 fee. This way when you you search Expedia or the like you show up at $49 when someone searches by price.

So dumb but a new reality.
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I looked into a two-day stay and ski deal at Snowshoe in WV. Same thing. Additional $50 on top of tax, broken into "processing fee" and a second in "taxes and fees." I sent an email telling them that was distasteful, essentially a bait and switch, and that I would not be coming despite the fact that the total charge would not have otherwise been an issue. I just found the attempted slight of hand obnoxious. Might have something to do with a Colorado trip looking more likely, too.

 
Was just looking at a Phoenix hotel that had a resort fee and was pretty surprised to see that wifi still cost extra on top of that. WTF?

 
GroveDiesel said:
:shrug: Complain about it. Loudly if you have to. They absolutely can negotiate it down or eliminate it if it's not a local tax. If they won't budge, tell them you're calling your credit card to refuse payment on any fees that weren't disclosed at the time of booking.
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So these are fees that aren't listed on the website at the time of booking? That's crazy.

 
Another reasons hotels do this, websites like Hotels.com and Priceline get a percent cut of the room rate (maybe 15%?). This resort fee the hotel does not have to share.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
Was just looking at a Phoenix hotel that had a resort fee and was pretty surprised to see that wifi still cost extra on top of that. WTF?
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The more expensive the hotel, the more likely you'll have to pay for wi-fi. Just as an example, in the Marriott brands (with very few exceptions) all full-service Marriotts, Renaissance, and Courtyards require you to pay for wi-fi, while Springhill Suites, Residence Inn, and Fairfield Inn do not charge. There is a price point where they decide you will be okay forking over just a bit more.

 
Apple Jack said:
FreeBaGeL said:
Was just looking at a Phoenix hotel that had a resort fee and was pretty surprised to see that wifi still cost extra on top of that. WTF?
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The more expensive the hotel, the more likely you'll have to pay for wi-fi. Just as an example, in the Marriott brands (with very few exceptions) all full-service Marriotts, Renaissance, and Courtyards require you to pay for wi-fi, while Springhill Suites, Residence Inn, and Fairfield Inn do not charge. There is a price point where they decide you will be okay forking over just a bit more.
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I have seen resort fees at $60 per night hotels like ramada.

 
jon_mx said:
Apple Jack said:
FreeBaGeL said:
Was just looking at a Phoenix hotel that had a resort fee and was pretty surprised to see that wifi still cost extra on top of that. WTF?
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The more expensive the hotel, the more likely you'll have to pay for wi-fi. Just as an example, in the Marriott brands (with very few exceptions) all full-service Marriotts, Renaissance, and Courtyards require you to pay for wi-fi, while Springhill Suites, Residence Inn, and Fairfield Inn do not charge. There is a price point where they decide you will be okay forking over just a bit more.
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I have seen resort fees at $60 per night hotels like ramada.
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The Ritz in Cayman is $70, but it includes use of their paddle boards, kayaks, etc..

 
NutterButter said:
GroveDiesel said:
:shrug: Complain about it. Loudly if you have to. They absolutely can negotiate it down or eliminate it if it's not a local tax. If they won't budge, tell them you're calling your credit card to refuse payment on any fees that weren't disclosed at the time of booking.
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So these are fees that aren't listed on the website at the time of booking? That's crazy.
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ive never seen these fees not listed on the websites. In the past five years, I've stayed at New York, New York, Mandalay Bay and the Luxor...I've never been surprised by fees. That being said, I think it's purposely not calculated by some hotels until the end of your stay.
 
Apple Jack said:
FreeBaGeL said:
Was just looking at a Phoenix hotel that had a resort fee and was pretty surprised to see that wifi still cost extra on top of that. WTF?
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The more expensive the hotel, the more likely you'll have to pay for wi-fi. Just as an example, in the Marriott brands (with very few exceptions) all full-service Marriotts, Renaissance, and Courtyards require you to pay for wi-fi, while Springhill Suites, Residence Inn, and Fairfield Inn do not charge. There is a price point where they decide you will be okay forking over just a bit more.
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Yeah, paying for wifi at hotels in general is nothing new to me. But with resort fees (my only experience is in Vegas), covering the cost of WiFi was always one of the first things they listed the fee being for.

Now it looks like they're separating that out even from the resort fees. Double (triple?) dipping.

 
GroveDiesel said:
:shrug: Complain about it. Loudly if you have to. They absolutely can negotiate it down or eliminate it if it's not a local tax. If they won't budge, tell them you're calling your credit card to refuse payment on any fees that weren't disclosed at the time of booking.
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But they usually are disclosed at time of booking.

 
I've never ended up booking a place without noticing them and been surprised when I was charged. My main gripe with them personally is that they screw up travel aggregator sites. You can't search for a hotel in Vegas or Phoenix and sort by price, because the prices you see aren't the real prices. It's a PITA.

 
Yeah, the whole click-bait approach to marketing needs to stop and the only way it's going to stop is if a) we tell them they will lose our business, and b) they actually do lose our business. I don't have many pet peeves, but that is one.

 
Zow said:
GroveDiesel said:
:shrug: Complain about it. Loudly if you have to. They absolutely can negotiate it down or eliminate it if it's not a local tax. If they won't budge, tell them you're calling your credit card to refuse payment on any fees that weren't disclosed at the time of booking.
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But they usually are disclosed at time of booking.
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I booked on Hotels.com. I paid in full when I booked. But the hotel charged me when I got there. Technically it might have been stated somewhere on the bottom of the page when I booked, but it was not explicated stated as the rate and taxes were. That is deceptive, imho.

 
jon_mx said:
Zow said:
GroveDiesel said:
:shrug: Complain about it. Loudly if you have to. They absolutely can negotiate it down or eliminate it if it's not a local tax. If they won't budge, tell them you're calling your credit card to refuse payment on any fees that weren't disclosed at the time of booking.
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But they usually are disclosed at time of booking.
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I booked on Hotels.com. I paid in full when I booked. But the hotel charged me when I got there. Technically it might have been stated somewhere on the bottom of the page when I booked, but it was not explicated stated as the rate and taxes were. That is deceptive, imho.
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What hotel?
 
Cjw_55106 said:
NutterButter said:
GroveDiesel said:
:shrug: Complain about it. Loudly if you have to. They absolutely can negotiate it down or eliminate it if it's not a local tax. If they won't budge, tell them you're calling your credit card to refuse payment on any fees that weren't disclosed at the time of booking.
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So these are fees that aren't listed on the website at the time of booking? That's crazy.
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ive never seen these fees not listed on the websites. In the past five years, I've stayed at New York, New York, Mandalay Bay and the Luxor...I've never been surprised by fees. That being said, I think it's purposely not calculated by some hotels until the end of your stay.
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FWIW those are all the same company, and will for the most part have the same policies.

 
Cjw_55106 said:
jon_mx said:
Zow said:
GroveDiesel said:
:shrug: Complain about it. Loudly if you have to. They absolutely can negotiate it down or eliminate it if it's not a local tax. If they won't budge, tell them you're calling your credit card to refuse payment on any fees that weren't disclosed at the time of booking.
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But they usually are disclosed at time of booking.
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I booked on Hotels.com. I paid in full when I booked. But the hotel charged me when I got there. Technically it might have been stated somewhere on the bottom of the page when I booked, but it was not explicated stated as the rate and taxes were. That is deceptive, imho.
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What hotel?
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Some hotel in Hawaii. I forget the name, but it was around Waikiki beach. Not outrageous for there, but now I read the fine print and have not booked several hotels because I saw they had resort fees. But you have to page down and read it in the notes.

 
CurlyNight said:
BillyBarooo said:
They are out of control. You cannot stay anywhere near the strip in Vegas without a resort fee that is sometimes higher than the regular room rate. What exactly do you get for these? Use of the pool? wifi? gym access? what if I don't want any of those?

It's so clearly just a money grab and a way to cloak the actual nightly rate. Now that it's a monkey-see maneuver similar to the airline fees, you can't escape them in most major tourist areas. At least with the airline fees you sometimes get better seats or faster boarding. The hotel fees give the consumer absolutely zero value. Where and to whom do i write an angry letter?
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Dad?

One year my dad was thinking he was going a bit cheaper by staying at Mirage but after the resort fees, he found he could have stayed at a nicer place for not much more. lol.
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What nicer place in Vegas does not have a resort fee?

 
Marauder said:
CurlyNight said:
BillyBarooo said:
They are out of control. You cannot stay anywhere near the strip in Vegas without a resort fee that is sometimes higher than the regular room rate. What exactly do you get for these? Use of the pool? wifi? gym access? what if I don't want any of those?

It's so clearly just a money grab and a way to cloak the actual nightly rate. Now that it's a monkey-see maneuver similar to the airline fees, you can't escape them in most major tourist areas. At least with the airline fees you sometimes get better seats or faster boarding. The hotel fees give the consumer absolutely zero value. Where and to whom do i write an angry letter?
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Dad?

One year my dad was thinking he was going a bit cheaper by staying at Mirage but after the resort fees, he found he could have stayed at a nicer place for not much more. lol.
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What nicer place in Vegas does not have a resort fee?
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The caesars properties used to not have them. They added them like two years ago.

 
Walking Boot said:
Koya said:
Bring your business someone else. :shrug:

It's not that difficult.
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It's a conspiracy between the various hotel ownership groups, so you can't really bring your business somewhere else. They all charge the fees.

The most ridiculous was the Quad in Vegas. They're currently undergoing renovations and becoming the Linq. So, there was no pool. There was no spa. There is no Wifi. The rooms are dirt-cheap because most aren't finished. The lobby, the main casino, it's all drywall and plastic sheeting. But they still charge the resort fee. The website said something like "A $30 Resort Fee will be added to your stay." A page deeper inside the website says "Resort Fee: guests receive a daily newspaper, complimentary coffee, wifi service, pool and spa access with two additional towels*." The asterisk? "complimentary coffee, wifi service, pool and spa access not available at the Quad due to construction." So all you got was a USA today and a cup of coffee for your $30 a day.

Scam.
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Again, if it's such a scam, find places without fees (they exist) or put your money elsewhere. If they hid the fees, ok. But they state them, it's part of the ####### price. You want to pay it, go. If not, don't. But stop #####ing, people.

Really not that difficult, sorry.

 
Koya said:
Walking Boot said:
Koya said:
Bring your business someone else. :shrug:

It's not that difficult.
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It's a conspiracy between the various hotel ownership groups, so you can't really bring your business somewhere else. They all charge the fees.

The most ridiculous was the Quad in Vegas. They're currently undergoing renovations and becoming the Linq. So, there was no pool. There was no spa. There is no Wifi. The rooms are dirt-cheap because most aren't finished. The lobby, the main casino, it's all drywall and plastic sheeting. But they still charge the resort fee. The website said something like "A $30 Resort Fee will be added to your stay." A page deeper inside the website says "Resort Fee: guests receive a daily newspaper, complimentary coffee, wifi service, pool and spa access with two additional towels*." The asterisk? "complimentary coffee, wifi service, pool and spa access not available at the Quad due to construction." So all you got was a USA today and a cup of coffee for your $30 a day.

Scam.
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Again, if it's such a scam, find places without fees (they exist) or put your money elsewhere. If they hid the fees, ok. But they state them, it's part of the ####### price. You want to pay it, go. If not, don't. But stop #####ing, people.

Really not that difficult, sorry.
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It's new bait and switch/clickbait strategy. God forbid there be a consumer response to attempted deception. And it sounds like people are learning of fees that were not presented at purchase.

 
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Koya said:
Walking Boot said:
Koya said:
Bring your business someone else. :shrug:

It's not that difficult.
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It's a conspiracy between the various hotel ownership groups, so you can't really bring your business somewhere else. They all charge the fees.

The most ridiculous was the Quad in Vegas. They're currently undergoing renovations and becoming the Linq. So, there was no pool. There was no spa. There is no Wifi. The rooms are dirt-cheap because most aren't finished. The lobby, the main casino, it's all drywall and plastic sheeting. But they still charge the resort fee. The website said something like "A $30 Resort Fee will be added to your stay." A page deeper inside the website says "Resort Fee: guests receive a daily newspaper, complimentary coffee, wifi service, pool and spa access with two additional towels*." The asterisk? "complimentary coffee, wifi service, pool and spa access not available at the Quad due to construction." So all you got was a USA today and a cup of coffee for your $30 a day.

Scam.
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Again, if it's such a scam, find places without fees (they exist) or put your money elsewhere. If they hid the fees, ok. But they state them, it's part of the ####### price. You want to pay it, go. If not, don't. But stop #####ing, people.

Really not that difficult, sorry.
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Sure most of them state them, but way down the page, or in fine print. Yeah it's the consumer's responsibility to read all the garbage, but it doesn't mean that it's not a bunch of bull the way they do it.

And frankly, breaking out that fee when it's mandatory, so that they can generate interest from aggregator booking sites is classic bait and switch. If it's a mandatory fee, then it's part of the hotel stay price. Period.

 
Koya said:
Walking Boot said:
Koya said:
Bring your business someone else. :shrug:

It's not that difficult.
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It's a conspiracy between the various hotel ownership groups, so you can't really bring your business somewhere else. They all charge the fees.

The most ridiculous was the Quad in Vegas. They're currently undergoing renovations and becoming the Linq. So, there was no pool. There was no spa. There is no Wifi. The rooms are dirt-cheap because most aren't finished. The lobby, the main casino, it's all drywall and plastic sheeting. But they still charge the resort fee. The website said something like "A $30 Resort Fee will be added to your stay." A page deeper inside the website says "Resort Fee: guests receive a daily newspaper, complimentary coffee, wifi service, pool and spa access with two additional towels*." The asterisk? "complimentary coffee, wifi service, pool and spa access not available at the Quad due to construction." So all you got was a USA today and a cup of coffee for your $30 a day.

Scam.
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Again, if it's such a scam, find places without fees (they exist) or put your money elsewhere. If they hid the fees, ok. But they state them, it's part of the ####### price. You want to pay it, go. If not, don't. But stop #####ing, people.

Really not that difficult, sorry.
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You think it is ok to have fine print that has an asterisk to more fine print?

 
These are such BS. Make it a la carte and let people choose what they are willing to pay for. I demand they be removed when I bring my annual boys golf tourney to Palm Springs and they give in.

 
Marauder said:
CurlyNight said:
BillyBarooo said:
They are out of control. You cannot stay anywhere near the strip in Vegas without a resort fee that is sometimes higher than the regular room rate. What exactly do you get for these? Use of the pool? wifi? gym access? what if I don't want any of those?

It's so clearly just a money grab and a way to cloak the actual nightly rate. Now that it's a monkey-see maneuver similar to the airline fees, you can't escape them in most major tourist areas. At least with the airline fees you sometimes get better seats or faster boarding. The hotel fees give the consumer absolutely zero value. Where and to whom do i write an angry letter?
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Dad?

One year my dad was thinking he was going a bit cheaper by staying at Mirage but after the resort fees, he found he could have stayed at a nicer place for not much more. lol.
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What nicer place in Vegas does not have a resort fee?
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Elara

M Resort

Every casino hotel on the strip charges a resort fee now and most of the places downtown too. It's another mandatory, hidden fee just like the airlines, rental car, cell phone, and cable companies do it. And the higher end hotels keep raising it. I think Bellagio was just the first to push it over $32 per night. There's no value to the customer, especially since the fitness centers/pools at almost all these hotels are not open 24 hours. So you're basically paying $25+ a day for WiFi and a "free" bottle of water.

 
I remember back when we first experienced resort fees. It was a Christmas/NY trip. My SO and I laughed when they mentioned the pool as to what it was for. It was actually pretty cold the days we were there and we're trying to explain that they can be rest assured we won't be using the pool. As for the gym, we are not gym people. We plan on getting a lot of exercise from walking---so we don't want these extra perks, which should be included in the rates to be quite frank, sir. Please take this off our bill. We promise to gamble a lot here so you won't be losing out on getting more money from us. Too bad, you have to pay. To boot we had been warned at the desk that if we moved anything from the bar/drink/snack area or from the fridge we'd get charged extra. Then wtf are we paying for??? We are here to shop, gamble, eat great food and catch some shows. We'll be contributing very nicely to the Vegas economy I promise. I was shocked that even the bottled waters were extra. Now we expect to be ripped off but that first time we were shell shocked! We were almost afraid to use their towels and toiletries!

 
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GroveDiesel said:
Koya said:
Walking Boot said:
Koya said:
Bring your business someone else. :shrug:

It's not that difficult.
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It's a conspiracy between the various hotel ownership groups, so you can't really bring your business somewhere else. They all charge the fees.

The most ridiculous was the Quad in Vegas. They're currently undergoing renovations and becoming the Linq. So, there was no pool. There was no spa. There is no Wifi. The rooms are dirt-cheap because most aren't finished. The lobby, the main casino, it's all drywall and plastic sheeting. But they still charge the resort fee. The website said something like "A $30 Resort Fee will be added to your stay." A page deeper inside the website says "Resort Fee: guests receive a daily newspaper, complimentary coffee, wifi service, pool and spa access with two additional towels*." The asterisk? "complimentary coffee, wifi service, pool and spa access not available at the Quad due to construction." So all you got was a USA today and a cup of coffee for your $30 a day.

Scam.
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Again, if it's such a scam, find places without fees (they exist) or put your money elsewhere. If they hid the fees, ok. But they state them, it's part of the ####### price. You want to pay it, go. If not, don't. But stop #####ing, people.

Really not that difficult, sorry.
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Sure most of them state them, but way down the page, or in fine print. Yeah it's the consumer's responsibility to read all the garbage, but it doesn't mean that it's not a bunch of bull the way they do it.
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:lmao:

 
Short Corner said:
GroveDiesel said:
Koya said:
Walking Boot said:
Koya said:
Bring your business someone else. :shrug:

It's not that difficult.
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It's a conspiracy between the various hotel ownership groups, so you can't really bring your business somewhere else. They all charge the fees.

The most ridiculous was the Quad in Vegas. They're currently undergoing renovations and becoming the Linq. So, there was no pool. There was no spa. There is no Wifi. The rooms are dirt-cheap because most aren't finished. The lobby, the main casino, it's all drywall and plastic sheeting. But they still charge the resort fee. The website said something like "A $30 Resort Fee will be added to your stay." A page deeper inside the website says "Resort Fee: guests receive a daily newspaper, complimentary coffee, wifi service, pool and spa access with two additional towels*." The asterisk? "complimentary coffee, wifi service, pool and spa access not available at the Quad due to construction." So all you got was a USA today and a cup of coffee for your $30 a day.

Scam.
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Again, if it's such a scam, find places without fees (they exist) or put your money elsewhere. If they hid the fees, ok. But they state them, it's part of the ####### price. You want to pay it, go. If not, don't. But stop #####ing, people.

Really not that difficult, sorry.
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Sure most of them state them, but way down the page, or in fine print. Yeah it's the consumer's responsibility to read all the garbage, but it doesn't mean that it's not a bunch of bull the way they do it.
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:lmao:
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Nothing funning about consumers being deceived. If they are mandatory charges, put them in the room rate. Hiding some $50 charge in some small font between some note about no smoking in the rooms and their no per policy is deception, pure and simple. All mandatory fees should be part of the rate. That is honest disclosure.

 
msommer said:
It's a free market. Take your business elsewhere
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Let's make it extreme. Let's say these mandatory hidden fees were $1 million on a $100 room and a few hundred people got snagged before the scam was exposed. So we just tell them sorry, the resort now owns all your assets? Yeah, it might only add up to a couple hundred bucks, so it is not worth the time to litigate. But the orinciple is the same. Additional charges should be optional and fully disclosed prior to being charged for it. . This is not a question of free markets. It is a matter of truth in advertising.

 
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...and what's with this "sales tax" that gets added on to all my stays? That's not part of the listed price

Hell I even had to pay it on a bottle of water the other day. $0.99 my ### :rant:

 
CurlyNight said:
I remember back when we first experienced resort fees. It was a Christmas/NY trip. My SO and I laughed when they mentioned the pool as to what it was for. It was actually pretty cold the days we were there and we're trying to explain that they can be rest assured we won't be using the pool. As for the gym, we are not gym people. We plan on getting a lot of exercise from walking---so we don't want these extra perks, which should be included in the rates to be quite frank, sir. Please take this off our bill. We promise to gamble a lot here so you won't be losing out on getting more money from us. Too bad, you have to pay. To boot we had been warned at the desk that if we moved anything from the bar/drink/snack area or from the fridge we'd get charged extra. Then wtf are we paying for??? We are here to shop, gamble, eat great food and catch some shows. We'll be contributing very nicely to the Vegas economy I promise. I was shocked that even the bottled waters were extra. Now we expect to be ripped off but that first time we were shell shocked! We were almost afraid to use their towels and toiletries!
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The last time we were on vacation the kids took all of the drinks/snacks off of the little tray that was on top of the mini-fridge. I put them all back and none were opened, but I noticed a sign saying that if anything was moved that we would be automatically charged for that item. I went down to the front desk and explained the situation and they refused to waive the charges. Everything was crazy over-priced ($8 for a bottled water, $25 for a can of peanuts, etc) and the total damage that appeared on my credit card was like $140. Thank god for Amex because I disputed the charges and they removed them.

The hotel was pretty much right next door to a CVS and everything on that tray could have been had for normal prices with just an elevator ride and a 100-yard walk. Hotels like these underhanded money-makers and they rely on people not standing up for themselves. Resort fees are total BS

 
Dickies said:
The last time we were on vacation the kids took all of the drinks/snacks off of the little tray that was on top of the mini-fridge. I put them all back and none were opened, but I noticed a sign saying that if anything was moved that we would be automatically charged for that item. I went down to the front desk and explained the situation and they refused to waive the charges.
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That's insane.

 
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