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** Official 2014 Philadelphia Eagles Thread ** (1 Viewer)

Spiller would be a nightmare for defenses in this offense, but we already have McCoy and have other places that need to be addressed. Glad the deal never happened.

 
It would have been nice to have this when the Manziel rumors we at their peak. Here's a list of prospects Chip offered scholarships to while he was at Oregon.
Names that stick out: Barr, Lee, Powell, Exum, Eagles have had all of them in or were at their pro days I think.
I have seen Barr's name all over the place lately. He's been in for multiple visits I believe, Howie went to their practice after the Oakland game and it's a poistion of need. I'm wondering if he's the guy they want and are willing to go get if the price is right.

 
It would have been nice to have this when the Manziel rumors we at their peak. Here's a list of prospects Chip offered scholarships to while he was at Oregon.
Names that stick out: Barr, Lee, Powell, Exum, Eagles have had all of them in or were at their pro days I think.
I have seen Barr's name all over the place lately. He's been in for multiple visits I believe, Howie went to their practice after the Oakland game and it's a poistion of need. I'm wondering if he's the guy they want and are willing to go get if the price is right.
They've been looking at him quite a bit. Usually you don't play favorites but I'd think if he dropped below 15 they'd start thinking about trading up for him.

 
I've been saying since January that pass rush OLB is by far their biggest need. Even greater gap now that FA has happened and S and CB were addressed. Hopefully this is an indication that Howie and Chip know it as well. Nothing would benefit this defense more than a young athletic double digit sack threat from the edge.

 
The Desean Jackson thread may break but I just saw that Aldon Smith may get cut....if so, are you in?
First his legal trouble needs to be resolved before he goes to any team, and I doubt that goes away quickly. Reading through that thread, he's been in a lot of trouble before this. I think Goodell comes down hard. Once that's all cleared up...Not a chance I want to see him on the Eagles.

 
Some Thoughts on the Draft and Next Year's Offense

So what will the Eagles do? It comes down to what they feel they need to improve on over last year. Defense is the easy answer, but I don't think it's as simple as that. They need help there certainly but I don't think they have visions of building Gang Green Pt 2. My feeling is that they want the Eagles to be a team with an elite offense and a (hopefully) above average defense. What they do with the ball is what defines them, and I don't think they'll go too long at any point without adding talent and competition on that side of the ball.

On defense the biggest challenges I think were:

  1. Lack of pass rush
  2. Weak S play
  3. Weak CB depth
  4. Overall lack of playmakers in the secondary. Well they have one, but he's only on the field half the time.
I think they've addresed #2 and 3, at least to some point with Jenkins and Carroll. We still haven't solved the pass rush, the S position is marginally improved but could use more help and the CB depth has been addressed. So we need pass rushing OLB(s), safety help specifically, and playmaking defensive backs in general. There's other spots to look at as well, ILB probably isn't as set as many think, DeMeco is getting older and slowing down and Kendricks is still in the habit of waiting for blockers to come to him against the run and is still missing tackles. This is a big year for his career I think, he needs to take bigger steps forwards, both metaphorically and in his run fits. :rolleyes:

On offense, the challenges are in some ways around personnel, but not so much in overall ability but in making sure we're well placed to beat teams the way they'll defend us next year. Through the back half of the year, we saw more and more tight man coverage with a single high S. That seems to be a trend in how teams are defending high tempo spread offenses going back into the college game as well. That approach has the advantage of being flexible against different formations, it's simple, guys can just line up and play, and it takes away the short, safe throws, bubble screens etc. and allows the D more time to rush against a 5 or 6 man protection. There was a lot of talk after his release that DeSean's impact was overrated, but I don't think so. Use the Saints playoff game as an example 70% of plays they lined up with somebody short on him and the lone high S was outside the hashmarks on his side of the field.

Through the preseason there was much talk about how quick the ball was going to be out of the QB's hands, but as the season wore on that became less and less the case, at times Foles held the ball way to long and took coverage sacks. This shift in coverage against us was a big reason for it. We had guys last year who could beat man, but only by going deep. Jackson's game was long speed or taking advantage of huge cushions. They fed him a lot by being creative with alignment (like putting him in the backfield) to generate matchups as well. Cooper doesn't have the agility to beat man coverage on short / intermediate routes, but he does well on fade, post, deep cross type routes. Again, takes a longer time to develop those.

I expect one of their big adjustments this season to be around how to beat man coverage short. Subbing Maclin for Jackson is part of that. I am a Maclin critic in some ways but he's a good route runner who can create separation on short routes but still go deep as well. Bringing in Sproles is part of that strategy as well. I think he'll play a Wes Welker type role as a slot WR as well as taking on some of that alignment based mismatch role that Jackson performed. I think Ertz plays a much bigger role this year too, he really came on strong late last year. If you want an example take a look at the 24yd TD catch against the Cards. Working against the S in man coverage he ran at him, then weaved to his outside shoulder, S widened by 2 or 3 steps and started to turn his hips then Ertz broke the skinny post inside him and caught the score at the goalline. Great veteran route running move to make space that wouldn't have been there if he'd just run the route straight up.

I think they can use Cooper a bit better as well. 2 things I hope we see next year, the first is a back shoulder fade. Plays to both his and Foles' strengths and offers the flexibility of sending Cooper deep, but being able to break it off short if he can't get position or separation. The other is the slant. Not usually a spread type route, but I hope Pat Shurmur is in Kelly's ear about this as well. Quick route that would let Cooper use his size and strong hands to beat single coverage.

So those are some aspects of how the offense might respond, another way to help us beat this kind of defensive strategy is just to make sure our #3,4,5 targets are better than their #3,4,5 coverage players. That's where the draft comes in. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them draft 3 offensive players out of their 6 picks. The way it looks like shaping up, probably all 3 top tier rushers (Clowney, Mack, Barr) will be gone, both top tier S (Pryor, Clinton-Dix) look like being gone, we don't need a QB or an OT, so what's left? The top tier of both CB (Garrett, Denard, Roby, Fuller) and WR (Watkins, Evans, Beckham Jr, Cooks, Lee) looks like it will make it down to our first round pick, I wouldn't be surprised to see them take someone from that group. Particularly since there's no guarantee we're not going into next year with Cooper as the #1 if Maclin doesn't stay.

Can't believe it's still 2 weeks to go until the draft, hurry the :rant: up already.

 
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Nice post Ash. I'm acting as the Eagles GM in the SP mock draft. The biggest problem I have is there are no real glaring holes on the team now. Yea you might want to upgrade here and there, but I can't say there isn't starter level talent already in place considering the coaching philosophies. We don't have to count on any rookie to come in and produce right away like Lane Johnson did for example. It's all about BPA and depth, which will build for the future.

I think there is more to Earl Wolff, a lot more. UDFA Keeland Johnson isn't a player to look past either. We didn't chase the big names in FAs and we probably won't in the draft either. I wouldn't mind Bucannon at his price tag though..

We have 3 OL that are 30+. That might be of concern to the team. We'll see. Someone like Joel Bitonio could be a nice pick if the Mathis rumors are true. He can be a OG short term and RT once Lane Johnson moves to LT post-Peters.

There is no need to chase WRs in this class. It's a buyers market and Howie seems to think so. Mainstream is running with the idea that we will draft a WR high, but we won't have to count on a rookie to produce to have a high powered offense. As long as we have captain efficiency at QB the ball will move. At pick #22 the best case to land an instant impact player who can be the best WR on the team immediately is maybe Cooks or Jordan Mathews. Then we can all chip in and get Insein a Cooks jersey to replace his DJax one. He won't notice the difference.

It's a buyers market for pass rushers too. Maybe with the added help to the secondary we can be more aggressive up front with the play calling. I'll still remain stubborn about using B. Graham if rushing the passer is such a need. Sending Kendricks every once in awhile wouldn't hurt either.

 
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The biggest problem I have is there are no real glaring holes on the team now.
Agreed, they've done free agency properly the last couple of years, to fill holes with mid level players.

I think there is more to Earl Wolff, a lot more. UDFA Keeland Johnson isn't a player to look past either.
Hope so, but they can afford to add another guy here if there's somebody appealing available. Nate Allen is only a fallback if Wolff doesn't develop as hoped.

We have 3 OL that are 30+. That might be of concern to the team. We'll see. Someone like Joel Bitonio could be a nice pick if the Mathis rumors are true. He can be a OG short term and RT once Lane Johnson moves to LT post-Peters.
Agree here for sure. Mathis is still playing at a high level, but he's 32. Heremanns is clearly fading and I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him some competition from Babre or somebody else in camp. I think Peters will actually be here now until he clearly falls off performance wise. The OT depth isn't bad between Babre and Kelly.

There is no need to chase WRs in this class. It's a buyers market and Howie seems to think so. Mainstream is running with the idea that we will draft a WR high, but we won't have to count on a rookie to produce to have a high powered offense. As long as we have captain efficiency at QB the ball will move. At pick #22 the best case to land an instant impact player who can be the best WR on the team immediately is maybe Cooks or Jordan Mathews. Then we can all chip in and get Insein a Cooks jersey to replace his DJax one. He won't notice the difference.
I agree on the WRs to a point, there are guys outside that first tier I like, Matthews, Allen Robinson etc. Our WR group as it stands is a little underpowered but has zero depth. There's also still the question of whether Maclin comes back next year. Doesn't have to be 1st round, but I do think they need to draft a WR early, if the value's there of course which in this draft it should be. My prediction of WR/CB is mostly just where I expect the value to line up with what I see as needs.

Don't really agree with the POV that as long as we have Foles all will be OK. You only have to look at McNabb's career for a good example of that. Big difference between 2001-2003 McNabb throwing to stiffs compared to the 2004 version. The premise of this offense is to use personnel and alignment to generate situations where we can run the ball against a weak box, but that means having weapons outside to force the D to spread out. I think we'll have to convince teams we can throw without Jackson early in the year before we'll see many 5 or 6 man fronts.

It's a buyers market for pass rushers too. Maybe with the added help to the secondary we can be more aggressive up front with the play calling. I'll still remain stubborn about using B. Graham if rushing the passer is such a need. Sending Kendricks every once in awhile wouldn't hurt either.
Who are the pass rushers you like? Don't see the buyers market, at least for the 3-4 OLBs we need. There was zero available in FA. The Big 3 will likely be long gone for us, I like Marcus Smith, but who else do you see as a fit?

This is one of my big problems with the 3-4 shift. We have a bunch of guys who suit the 4-3, we (so far) can't find the right guys for the new scheme but we're running it anyway and can't find a pass rush because of it.

 
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I'll still remain stubborn about using B. Graham if rushing the passer is such a need.
After reading Ash's post I was going to post something similar to this. I think it's very possible that we may just been a year to early for Graham. Everyone seemed to make a pretty easy transition to the 3-4 but a guy like Graham may just take a little more time to adapt to the position. IMO while it would be great to have an elite pass-rusher on the outside I don't believe it's necessary. We just need a situational guy who can get pressure on the QB's on obvious passing downs. Graham or a guy like Dee Ford would be perfect IMO. If we get that the DB's will look that much better.

As far as OL goes I'm of the belief you can never have enough of them. If they go OL at 22 that's fine with me.

 
Speaking of the Mock draft ShaBucks. Wasn't expecting Shazer at the 1st pick but I don't hate it. Was he more of a pass rusher at OSU? Why not take Roby or Fuller? Liked Lattimer in the 2nd as well. Was hoping Attaochu was going to be there.

 
I'll still remain stubborn about using B. Graham if rushing the passer is such a need.
After reading Ash's post I was going to post something similar to this. I think it's very possible that we may just been a year to early for Graham. Everyone seemed to make a pretty easy transition to the 3-4 but a guy like Graham may just take a little more time to adapt to the position. IMO while it would be great to have an elite pass-rusher on the outside I don't believe it's necessary. We just need a situational guy who can get pressure on the QB's on obvious passing downs. Graham or a guy like Dee Ford would be perfect IMO. If we get that the DB's will look that much better.

As far as OL goes I'm of the belief you can never have enough of them. If they go OL at 22 that's fine with me.
If someone like Zach Martin dropped to 22 I'd be absolutely fine with taking him.

 
Nice post Ash. I'm acting as the Eagles GM in the SP mock draft. The biggest problem I have is there are no real glaring holes on the team now. Yea you might want to upgrade here and there, but I can't say there isn't starter level talent already in place considering the coaching philosophies. We don't have to count on any rookie to come in and produce right away like Lane Johnson did for example. It's all about BPA and depth, which will build for the future.

I think there is more to Earl Wolff, a lot more. UDFA Keeland Johnson isn't a player to look past either. We didn't chase the big names in FAs and we probably won't in the draft either. I wouldn't mind Bucannon at his price tag though..

We have 3 OL that are 30+. That might be of concern to the team. We'll see. Someone like Joel Bitonio could be a nice pick if the Mathis rumors are true. He can be a OG short term and RT once Lane Johnson moves to LT post-Peters.

There is no need to chase WRs in this class. It's a buyers market and Howie seems to think so. Mainstream is running with the idea that we will draft a WR high, but we won't have to count on a rookie to produce to have a high powered offense. As long as we have captain efficiency at QB the ball will move. At pick #22 the best case to land an instant impact player who can be the best WR on the team immediately is maybe Cooks or Jordan Mathews. Then we can all chip in and get Insein a Cooks jersey to replace his DJax one. He won't notice the difference.

It's a buyers market for pass rushers too. Maybe with the added help to the secondary we can be more aggressive up front with the play calling. I'll still remain stubborn about using B. Graham if rushing the passer is such a need. Sending Kendricks every once in awhile wouldn't hurt either.
Well if he takes #10 then I have some duct tape and a sharpie.

 
Speaking of the Mock draft ShaBucks. Wasn't expecting Shazer at the 1st pick but I don't hate it. Was he more of a pass rusher at OSU? Why not take Roby or Fuller? Liked Lattimer in the 2nd as well. Was hoping Attaochu was going to be there.
Trust me, I wanted Roby. Shazier is just the best player in the draft. I wasn't kidding. 2nd most TFL in the NCAA proves he can get in the backfield. He's flawless as an OLB.

 
Speaking of the Mock draft ShaBucks. Wasn't expecting Shazer at the 1st pick but I don't hate it. Was he more of a pass rusher at OSU? Why not take Roby or Fuller? Liked Lattimer in the 2nd as well. Was hoping Attaochu was going to be there.
Trust me, I wanted Roby. Shazier is just the best player in the draft. I wasn't kidding. 2nd most TFL in the NCAA proves he can get in the backfield. He's flawless as an OLB.
He'd have to be one, if not the, smallest 3-4 OLB in the league in height and weight.

 
It's a buyers market for pass rushers too. Maybe with the added help to the secondary we can be more aggressive up front with the play calling. I'll still remain stubborn about using B. Graham if rushing the passer is such a need. Sending Kendricks every once in awhile wouldn't hurt either.
Who are the pass rushers you like? Don't see the buyers market, at least for the 3-4 OLBs we need. There was zero available in FA. The Big 3 will likely be long gone for us, I like Marcus Smith, but who else do you see as a fit?

This is one of my big problems with the 3-4 shift. We have a bunch of guys who suit the 4-3, we (so far) can't find the right guys for the new scheme but we're running it anyway and can't find a pass rush because of it.

Trent Murphy can be a better Rob Ninkovich with OLB/DE/ILB versatility.

I just pick Jackson Jeffcoat. He has the skillset to be like Trent Cole.

Shazier can do it all.

I'm not mentioning Mack- Barr- Clowney.

There is options in the draft. And if you're into PFF stats then Graham isn't being used properly.

 
Speaking of the Mock draft ShaBucks. Wasn't expecting Shazer at the 1st pick but I don't hate it. Was he more of a pass rusher at OSU? Why not take Roby or Fuller? Liked Lattimer in the 2nd as well. Was hoping Attaochu was going to be there.
Trust me, I wanted Roby. Shazier is just the best player in the draft. I wasn't kidding. 2nd most TFL in the NCAA proves he can get in the backfield. He's flawless as an OLB.
He'd have to be one, if not the, smallest 3-4 OLB in the league in height and weight.
I don't think he fits the size they want for an outside linebacker. They brought in Barwin (6'5"), Braman (6'5"), and reportedly tried to trade for Dion Jordan (6'6"). I don't think he fits the mold of what they want. They've been very specific about the types of players they want to fit in specific roles for this team and I don't think they make sacrifices with their first round pick in this draft. They'll probably make compromises on the types of players they want in the fourth round and on, but not with the first pick. I'm leaning more and more towards cornerback or safety with pick #1. There was even a post the other day by some reporter than had them considering Buchannon with their first pick. Seems high for him, but crazier things have happened.

 
It's a buyers market for pass rushers too. Maybe with the added help to the secondary we can be more aggressive up front with the play calling. I'll still remain stubborn about using B. Graham if rushing the passer is such a need. Sending Kendricks every once in awhile wouldn't hurt either.
Who are the pass rushers you like? Don't see the buyers market, at least for the 3-4 OLBs we need. There was zero available in FA. The Big 3 will likely be long gone for us, I like Marcus Smith, but who else do you see as a fit?

This is one of my big problems with the 3-4 shift. We have a bunch of guys who suit the 4-3, we (so far) can't find the right guys for the new scheme but we're running it anyway and can't find a pass rush because of it.

Trent Murphy can be a better Rob Ninkovich with OLB/DE/ILB versatility.

I just pick Jackson Jeffcoat. He has the skillset to be like Trent Cole.

Shazier can do it all.

I'm not mentioning Mack- Barr- Clowney.

There is options in the draft. And if you're into PFF stats then Graham isn't being used properly.
I think Jordan Tripp fits the mold of what they're trying to do with the OLB position. I can't rule out Shazier because last year, they met with all of our first four or five picks before the draft, and they did meet with Shazier already - so he's on their radar. I just don't feel like he's an ideal fit for the scheme they want to run.

 
Speaking of the Mock draft ShaBucks. Wasn't expecting Shazer at the 1st pick but I don't hate it. Was he more of a pass rusher at OSU? Why not take Roby or Fuller? Liked Lattimer in the 2nd as well. Was hoping Attaochu was going to be there.
Trust me, I wanted Roby. Shazier is just the best player in the draft. I wasn't kidding. 2nd most TFL in the NCAA proves he can get in the backfield. He's flawless as an OLB.
He'd have to be one, if not the, smallest 3-4 OLB in the league in height and weight.
42" vert. He can cover TE's in the league. He had 12 PD in 2012. Thats top cb numbers. He looks outsized on tape but when the ball is snapped he's everywhere. I thought about "big people beat up little people" but whatever. He's going to be a pro bowler at OLB or S

 
Speaking of the Mock draft ShaBucks. Wasn't expecting Shazer at the 1st pick but I don't hate it. Was he more of a pass rusher at OSU? Why not take Roby or Fuller? Liked Lattimer in the 2nd as well. Was hoping Attaochu was going to be there.
Trust me, I wanted Roby. Shazier is just the best player in the draft. I wasn't kidding. 2nd most TFL in the NCAA proves he can get in the backfield. He's flawless as an OLB.
He'd have to be one, if not the, smallest 3-4 OLB in the league in height and weight.
42" vert. He can cover TE's in the league. He had 12 PD in 2012. Thats top cb numbers.He looks outsized on tape but when the ball is snapped he's everywhere. I thought about "big people beat up little people" but whatever. He's going to be a pro bowler at OLB or S
It wont be in a 3-4 if he is IMO

 
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Speaking of the Mock draft ShaBucks. Wasn't expecting Shazer at the 1st pick but I don't hate it. Was he more of a pass rusher at OSU? Why not take Roby or Fuller? Liked Lattimer in the 2nd as well. Was hoping Attaochu was going to be there.
Trust me, I wanted Roby. Shazier is just the best player in the draft. I wasn't kidding. 2nd most TFL in the NCAA proves he can get in the backfield. He's flawless as an OLB.
He'd have to be one, if not the, smallest 3-4 OLB in the league in height and weight.
42" vert. He can cover TE's in the league. He had 12 PD in 2012. Thats top cb numbers.He looks outsized on tape but when the ball is snapped he's everywhere. I thought about "big people beat up little people" but whatever. He's going to be a pro bowler at OLB or S
It wont be in a 3-4 if he is IMO
I like him more as a 3-4 OLB. He works either way.If that fails, he fits the profile of a S. He's going to be a monster.

 
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PLAYERS THAT HAVE VISITED PHILLY

* WR Mike Evans – Texas A&M – 6-5, 231

* WR Maqise Lee – USC – 6-0, 199

* WR Kelvin Benjamin – FSU – 6-5, 240

* WR Cody Latimer – Indiana – 6-2, 215

* WR Odell Beckham – LSU – 5-11, 198

* WR Kevin Norwood – Alabama – 6-2, 199

* OG Trey Hopkins – Texas – 6-3, 305

* OG Spencer Long – Nebraska – 6-5, 320

* OC/OG Marcus Martin – USC – 6-3, 310

* DE Taylor Hart – Oregon – 6-6, 284

* LB Jeremiah Attaochu – Georgia Tech – 6-3, 252

* LB Anthony Barr – UCLA – 6-5, 255

* LB Marcus Smith – Louisiville – 6-3, 251

* LB Larry Webster – Bloomsburg – 6-6, 252

* ILB Jordan Tripp – Montana – 6-3, 234

* CB Aaron Colvin – Oklahoma – 6-0, 186

* CB Jaylen Watkins – Florida – 6-0, 194

* S Deone Bucannon – Washington State – 6-1, 216

PRO DAYS / WORKOUTS

QB Brett Smith – Wyoming … Bill Musgrave was at his Pro Day

QB Garrett Gilbert – SMU … Bill Musgrave was at his Pro Day

RB Jerick McKinnon – Georgia Southern

RB Tre Mason – Auburn … worked out by Duce Staley

RB Andrew Pierce – Delaware

RB Charles Sims – West Virginia … “had meetings with the Eagles”…not sure if at Combine or private workout

WR Donte Moncrief – Ole Miss … worked out by Bob Bicknell

WR Robert Herron – Wyoming

WR Brandon Coleman – Rutgers … worked out by Bob Bicknell

WR Quron Pratt – Rutgers … worked out by Bob Bicknell

WR L’Damian Washington – Missouri

TE Asante Cleveland – Miami

TE Richard Rodgers – Cal … Ted Williams worked him out

TE Blake Annen – Cincinnati … worked out by Justin Peelle (Asst TE coach)

TE Marcel Jensen – Fresno State … at his Pro Day, had dinner with him the night before

OT Ja’Waun James – Tennessee … worked out by Jeff Stoutland

OT Tiny Richardson – Tennessee … worked out by Jeff Stoutland

OC James Stone – Tennessee … worked out by Jeff Stoutland

OG Zach Fulton – Tennessee … worked out by Jeff Stoutland

OG Trai Turner – LSU … met with him at the Combine

OT Laurent Durvernay-Tardiff – McGill

OT Brandon Thomas – Clemson … worked out by Jeff Stoutland

OG Tyler Shatley – Clemson … worked out by Jeff Stoutland

NT Zach Kerr – Delaware … worked out by Jerry Azzinaro

DE Khyri Thornton – Southern Miss

DE Kareem Martin – UNC … worked out by Jerry Azzinaro

DE Shamar Stephen – UConn … Jerry Azzinaro was at his Pro Day

DE Ed Stinson – Alabama … Jerry Azzinaro was at his Pro Day

DE Jay Bromley – Syracuse … Jerry Azzinaro worked him out

LB Jeremiah Attaochu – Georgia Tech

LB Will Clarke – West Virginia … worked out by Bill McGovern

LB Scott Crichton – Oregon State … worked out by Bill McGovern

LB Anthony Barr – UCLA … worked out by Bill McGovern

LB Jesse Joseph – UConn … worked out by Jerry Azzinaro, then got additional meeting

LB Keenan Graham – UCLA … worked out by Bill McGovern

LB Chris Smith – Arkansas …. worked out by LBs coach at Pro Day (most likely McGovern)

ILB Ryan Shazier – Ohio State … Rick Minter at his Pro Day

ILB Preston Brown – Louisville … Rick Minter at his Pro Day

ILB Jordan Zumwalt – UCLA … worked out by Bill McGovern

Safety — The Eagles haven’t had a lot of individual workouts with Safeties, but they aren’t ignoring the position. Chip Kelly attended the Pro Day for many of the top S prospects (Pryor, Dix, Joyner, Brooks and Loston). Coach Lovett was at Isaiah Lewis’s Pro Day, but I don’t know for a fact that he worked him out.

S Dezmen Southward – Wisconsin … had DB coach at his Pro Day (could also be CB target)

CB Kyle Fuller – Virginia Tech

CB Darqueze Dennard – Michigan State … worked out by John Lovett

CB Joe Rankin – Morgan State

CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste – Nebraska … worked out by John Lovett

CB Mohammad Seisay – Nebraska … worked out by John Lovett

PK Cody Parkey – Auburn

PK Anthony Fera – Eagles checked him out closely at his Pro Day

* * *

Chip Kelly at these Pro Days:

Alabama

Florida State

Louisville

LSU

Missouri

Ohio State

Penn State

Pitt

Temple

Texas A&M

Vanderbilt

Virginia Tech

Pat Shurmur at these Pro Days:

Alabama

Florida State

Missouri

Bill Davis at these Pro Days:

Alabama

Florida

Florida State

Virginia Tech

* * * * *

SHOWING INTEREST

OLB Ronald Powell – per Jimmy Kempski of Philly.com

RB Storm Johnson – per Elliot Shorr-Parks of NJ.com

 
ShaHBucks said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
ShaHBucks said:
Speaking of the Mock draft ShaBucks. Wasn't expecting Shazer at the 1st pick but I don't hate it. Was he more of a pass rusher at OSU? Why not take Roby or Fuller? Liked Lattimer in the 2nd as well. Was hoping Attaochu was going to be there.
Trust me, I wanted Roby. Shazier is just the best player in the draft. I wasn't kidding. 2nd most TFL in the NCAA proves he can get in the backfield. He's flawless as an OLB.
He'd have to be one, if not the, smallest 3-4 OLB in the league in height and weight.
42" vert. He can cover TE's in the league. He had 12 PD in 2012. Thats top cb numbers.He looks outsized on tape but when the ball is snapped he's everywhere. I thought about "big people beat up little people" but whatever. He's going to be a pro bowler at OLB or S
I only watched a little bit of Shazier but he seemed more like an ILB for our system to me. I actually thought he was a guy you'd get to replace Kendricks if that's what they wanted to do. The coverage skills I think are actually more important for the inside guys they way we seem to use our LBs as well. The OLBs tend to drop to the flat or they use Barwin to mug guys at the line. The ILBs cover man or over the middle.

If the Eagles thought the vertical was a substitute for height then Boykin would be playing outside. I like Shazier as a player, just don't think he's what the Eagles would target as an OLB.

ETA: I like the discussion though, keep it coming :)

 
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ShaHBucks said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
ShaHBucks said:
Speaking of the Mock draft ShaBucks. Wasn't expecting Shazer at the 1st pick but I don't hate it. Was he more of a pass rusher at OSU? Why not take Roby or Fuller? Liked Lattimer in the 2nd as well. Was hoping Attaochu was going to be there.
Trust me, I wanted Roby. Shazier is just the best player in the draft. I wasn't kidding. 2nd most TFL in the NCAA proves he can get in the backfield. He's flawless as an OLB.
He'd have to be one, if not the, smallest 3-4 OLB in the league in height and weight.
42" vert. He can cover TE's in the league. He had 12 PD in 2012. Thats top cb numbers.He looks outsized on tape but when the ball is snapped he's everywhere. I thought about "big people beat up little people" but whatever. He's going to be a pro bowler at OLB or S
I only watched a little bit of Shazier but he seemed more like an ILB for our system to me. I actually thought he was a guy you'd get to replace Kendricks if that's what they wanted to do. The coverage skills I think are actually more important for the inside guys they way we seem to use our LBs as well. The OLBs tend to drop to the flat or they use Barwin to mug guys at the line. The ILBs cover man or over the middle.

If the Eagles thought the vertical was a substitute for height then Boykin would be playing outside. I like Shazier as a player, just don't think he's what the Eagles would target as an OLB.

ETA: I like the discussion though, keep it coming :)
I don't think he will be a MLB in the NFL. You have to watch the tape and picture him at OLB or S while doing what he does. A part of the reason I'm so high on him is the fact that you can almost try him anywhere. He'd be the most athletic RB in this class for crying out loud. I know from all the Eagles moves that versatility is at least as important as ideal size. Shazier is a swiss-army knife and a bargain in the 20s.

11.6 total tackles, 8.2 solo tackles, 1.8 TFLs, 0.6 sacks per game = His numbers when you toss out the soft games in the schedule(Buff, SD, Fla A&M)

Those are sick totals for someone his size playing MLB and OLB. Show me a better performer or athlete on paper and I'll agree with you guys. Give me talent over some system any Sunday.

He has the athleticism to cover Slot WRs, TEs and RBs in this passing league. I don't know what else you'd need height for. He can chase ball carriers and get into the backfield. And he hits like a FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwQzkshFkaM

 
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Eagles 2014 Schedule

1 - Sep 07 - 1:00 PM ET - Jaguars



2 - Sep 15 - 8:30 PM ET - at Colts (Monday Night)
3 - Sep 21 - 1:00 PM ET - Redskins





4 - Sep 28 - 4:25 PM ET - at 49ers





5 - Oct 05 - 1:00 PM ET - Rams





6 - Oct 12 - 8:30 PM ET - Giants (Sunday Night)





7 - Bye Week




8 - Oct 26 - 4:05 PM ET - at Cardinals




9 - Nov 02 - 1:00 PM ET - at Texans




10 - Nov 10 - 8:30 PM ET - Panthers (Monday Night)



11 - Nov 16 - 1:00 PM ET - at Packers



12 - Nov 23 - 1:00 PM ET - Titans



13 - Nov 27 - 4:30 PM ET - at Cowboys (Thanksgiving Afternoon)



14 - Dec 07 - 4:25 PM ET - Seahawks



15 - Dec 14 - 8:30 PM ET - Cowboys (Sunday Night)



16 - Dec 20 - 4:30 PM ET - at Redskins (Saturday Afternoon)



17 - Dec 28 - 1:00 PM ET - at Giants


 
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Figured there'd be more on the schedule in here by now. Few quick thoughts.

1. Tough start. There's a possibility we could be 1-3, and I'd be happy with 2-2.

2. Bye week is earlier then I'd like it.

3. Fairly difficult middle of the schedule, but at least its right after our bye so hopefully we're rested and ready for 3 or the next 4 on the road. Some good teams in that stretch too.

4, YES! THANKSGIVING GAME!

5. Love that we get our seahawks game
a: At Home
b: After 10 days rest.
I think we're gonna take them that game.

6: Cowboys twice in 3 weeks. Sandwiched by the Seahawks. Make or break our season right there.

7. End with three straight div games. Last two games of the year are both on the road vs div rivals.

8. It's nice that our only two back to back road games, give us the Texans and Giants as the 2nd game which is generally tough for the visiting team.

Haven't looked at the "how many times we play a team fresh off their bye" yet, but would love to see the stats on that. 2 years ago was a nightmare for that.

Looks like a SUPER entertaining schedule with plenty of storylines and big matchups throughout the year.

 
I don't think he will be a MLB in the NFL. You have to watch the tape and picture him at OLB or S while doing what he does. A part of the reason I'm so high on him is the fact that you can almost try him anywhere. He'd be the most athletic RB in this class for crying out loud. I know from all the Eagles moves that versatility is at least as important as ideal size. Shazier is a swiss-army knife and a bargain in the 20s.


11.6 total tackles, 8.2 solo tackles, 1.8 TFLs, 0.6 sacks per game = His numbers when you toss out the soft games in the schedule(Buff, SD, Fla A&M)

Those are sick totals for someone his size playing MLB and OLB. Show me a better performer or athlete on paper and I'll agree with you guys. Give me talent over some system any Sunday.

He has the athleticism to cover Slot WRs, TEs and RBs in this passing league. I don't know what else you'd need height for. He can chase ball carriers and get into the backfield. And he hits like a FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwQzkshFkaM
Alright, I'll watch a bit more. I was only saying ILB for us, not a 4-3 MLB. Like Kendricks I think his best NFL position based on what I've seen so far would be 4-3 WLB. For a 3-4 OLB, here's what I'm looking for:

  1. Can he set the edge against the run. Both Cole and especially Barwin are excellent at this. If a guy can't do this, then he's a situational rusher until he (hopefully) learns that skill
  2. Multiple pass rush moves, as in at least 2 of speed rush, bull rush, inside counter, speed to power conversion at contact.
  3. Functional movement in space, doesn't have to be able to run with slot WRs, but has to at least be able to do a solid job covering the flat or a short zone over the middle.
How do you think Shazier rates in those areas?

 
then Graham isn't being used properly.
Agree wholeheartedly, but left DE in a 4-3 isn't a position we seem to have. I think they're wasting Fletcher Cox having him play 2-gap as well. I think last year's D would have been better as a 4-3 and the same will probably be true of this year's too. Frustrating to see teams constantly convert 3rd downs with no pass rush while Graham and now Curry sit on the bench or play out of position.

What do I know though, I'm just some **** on the internet. :shrug:

ETA: Wait, we can say **** now? Should I transcribe that scene from Reservoir Dogs?

 
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Figured there'd be more on the schedule in here by now. Few quick thoughts.

1. Tough start. There's a possibility we could be 1-3, and I'd be happy with 2-2.

2. Bye week is earlier then I'd like it.

3. Fairly difficult middle of the schedule, but at least its right after our bye so hopefully we're rested and ready for 3 or the next 4 on the road. Some good teams in that stretch too.

4, YES! THANKSGIVING GAME!

5. Love that we get our seahawks game

a: At Home

b: After 10 days rest.

I think we're gonna take them that game.

6: Cowboys twice in 3 weeks. Sandwiched by the Seahawks. Make or break our season right there.

7. End with three straight div games. Last two games of the year are both on the road vs div rivals.

8. It's nice that our only two back to back road games, give us the Texans and Giants as the 2nd game which is generally tough for the visiting team.

Haven't looked at the "how many times we play a team fresh off their bye" yet, but would love to see the stats on that. 2 years ago was a nightmare for that.

Looks like a SUPER entertaining schedule with plenty of storylines and big matchups throughout the year.
Came in to post about the bold. I don't know who the Eagles have dirty pictures of in the league office, but :tebow: for the Seahawks being a home game after extended rest from playing Dallas on Thanksgiving. Would be so awesome to win in Jerruh-world on Thanksgiving Day for a National audience.

 
then Graham isn't being used properly.
Agree wholeheartedly, but left DE in a 4-3 isn't a position we seem to have. I think they're wasting Fletcher Cox having him play 2-gap as well. I think last year's D would have been better as a 4-3 and the same will probably be true of this year's too. Frustrating to see teams constantly convert 3rd downs with no pass rush while Graham and now Curry sit on the bench or play out of position.

What do I know though, I'm just some **** on the internet. :shrug:

ETA: Wait, we can say **** now? Should I transcribe that scene from Reservoir Dogs?
I'm not all to concern with schemes. If you can get to the QB then you can get to the QB provided the opportunity. It's all the same thing, just different alignments and different personal to make us look like we don't know whats going on.
 
I would have preferred it if the seahawks didn't also have 10 days off leading into it but at least they have also come off a huge divisional game on Thanksgiving and have to travel cross country.

Apart from that, this is a challenging schedule but not brutal. It's all about how they do in the divisional games, because there's at least 4 losses in the non-div games

 
Figured there'd be more on the schedule in here by now. Few quick thoughts.

1. Tough start. There's a possibility we could be 1-3, and I'd be happy with 2-2.

2. Bye week is earlier then I'd like it.

3. Fairly difficult middle of the schedule, but at least its right after our bye so hopefully we're rested and ready for 3 or the next 4 on the road. Some good teams in that stretch too.

4, YES! THANKSGIVING GAME!

5. Love that we get our seahawks game

a: At Home

b: After 10 days rest.

I think we're gonna take them that game.

6: Cowboys twice in 3 weeks. Sandwiched by the Seahawks. Make or break our season right there.

7. End with three straight div games. Last two games of the year are both on the road vs div rivals.

8. It's nice that our only two back to back road games, give us the Texans and Giants as the 2nd game which is generally tough for the visiting team.

Haven't looked at the "how many times we play a team fresh off their bye" yet, but would love to see the stats on that. 2 years ago was a nightmare for that.

Looks like a SUPER entertaining schedule with plenty of storylines and big matchups throughout the year.
Came in to post about the bold. I don't know who the Eagles have dirty pictures of in the league office, but :tebow: for the Seahawks being a home game after extended rest from playing Dallas on Thanksgiving. Would be so awesome to win in Jerruh-world on Thanksgiving Day for a National audience.
ah ####, didn't realize seattle had a thanksgiving game too. Dammit!

 
Eagles 2014 Schedule

1 - Sep 07 - 1:00 PM ET - Jaguars
2 - Sep 15 - 8:30 PM ET - at Colts (Monday Night)
3 - Sep 21 - 1:00 PM ET - Redskins
4 - Sep 28 - 4:25 PM ET - at 49ers
5 - Oct 05 - 1:00 PM ET - Rams
6 - Oct 12 - 8:30 PM ET - Giants (Sunday Night)
7 - Bye Week
8 - Oct 26 - 4:05 PM ET - at Cardinals
9 - Nov 02 - 1:00 PM ET - at Texans
10 - Nov 10 - 8:30 PM ET - Panthers (Monday Night)
11 - Nov 16 - 1:00 PM ET - at Packers
12 - Nov 23 - 1:00 PM ET - Titans
13 - Nov 27 - 4:30 PM ET - at Cowboys (Thanksgiving Afternoon)
14 - Dec 07 - 4:25 PM ET - Seahawks
15 - Dec 14 - 8:30 PM ET - Cowboys (Sunday Night)
16 - Dec 20 - 4:30 PM ET - at Redskins (Saturday Afternoon)
17 - Dec 28 - 1:00 PM ET - at Giants
I'm thinking 10-6/11-5

 
Eagles 2014 Schedule

1 - Sep 07 - 1:00 PM ET - Jaguars Win
2 - Sep 15 - 8:30 PM ET - at Colts (Monday Night) Loss
3 - Sep 21 - 1:00 PM ET - Redskins Win
4 - Sep 28 - 4:25 PM ET - at 49ers Loss
5 - Oct 05 - 1:00 PM ET - Rams Win
6 - Oct 12 - 8:30 PM ET - Giants (Sunday Night) Win
7 - Bye Week
8 - Oct 26 - 4:05 PM ET - at Cardinals Loss
9 - Nov 02 - 1:00 PM ET - at Texans Win
10 - Nov 10 - 8:30 PM ET - Panthers (Monday Night) Win
11 - Nov 16 - 1:00 PM ET - at Packers Loss
12 - Nov 23 - 1:00 PM ET - Titans Win
13 - Nov 27 - 4:30 PM ET - at Cowboys (Thanksgiving Afternoon) Loss
14 - Dec 07 - 4:25 PM ET - Seahawks Loss
15 - Dec 14 - 8:30 PM ET - Cowboys (Sunday Night) Win
16 - Dec 20 - 4:30 PM ET - at Redskins (Saturday Afternoon) Loss
17 - Dec 28 - 1:00 PM ET - at Giants Win
I'm thinking 10-6/11-5
I got 9-7. Splitting WAS and DAL and beating NYG twice in the division. I know many will have ARI as a win, but Philly notoriously doesn't travel well to the left coast. Even the HOU scares me a bit as they aren't as bad as they looked last year, plus they'll boost the D-line with Clowney.

 
I'm not sold on a 9 win season earning them the division title. I think they NEED to win 10 games for a division title to be assured.

 
Eagles 2014 Schedule

1 - Sep 07 - 1:00 PM ET - Jaguars Win
2 - Sep 15 - 8:30 PM ET - at Colts (Monday Night) Loss
3 - Sep 21 - 1:00 PM ET - Redskins Win
4 - Sep 28 - 4:25 PM ET - at 49ers Loss
5 - Oct 05 - 1:00 PM ET - Rams Win
6 - Oct 12 - 8:30 PM ET - Giants (Sunday Night) Win
7 - Bye Week
8 - Oct 26 - 4:05 PM ET - at Cardinals Loss
9 - Nov 02 - 1:00 PM ET - at Texans Win
10 - Nov 10 - 8:30 PM ET - Panthers (Monday Night) Win
11 - Nov 16 - 1:00 PM ET - at Packers Loss
12 - Nov 23 - 1:00 PM ET - Titans Win
13 - Nov 27 - 4:30 PM ET - at Cowboys (Thanksgiving Afternoon) Loss
14 - Dec 07 - 4:25 PM ET - Seahawks Loss
15 - Dec 14 - 8:30 PM ET - Cowboys (Sunday Night) Win
16 - Dec 20 - 4:30 PM ET - at Redskins (Saturday Afternoon) Loss
17 - Dec 28 - 1:00 PM ET - at Giants Win
I'm thinking 10-6/11-5
I got 9-7. Splitting WAS and DAL and beating NYG twice in the division. I know many will have ARI as a win, but Philly notoriously doesn't travel well to the left coast. Even the HOU scares me a bit as they aren't as bad as they looked last year, plus they'll boost the D-line with Clowney.
I agree but after the bye I have to think win.

 
1 - Sep 07 - 1:00 PM ET - Jaguars-W (1-0)



2 - Sep 15 - 8:30 PM ET - at Colts (Monday Night) W (2-0)
3 - Sep 21 - 1:00 PM ET - Redskins W (3-0!)





4 - Sep 28 - 4:25 PM ET - at 49ers L (3-1)





5 - Oct 05 - 1:00 PM ET - Rams W (4-1)





6 - Oct 12 - 8:30 PM ET - Giants (Sunday Night) W (5-1)





7 - Bye Week




8 - Oct 26 - 4:05 PM ET - at Cardinals W (6-1)




9 - Nov 02 - 1:00 PM ET - at Texans W (7-1)




10 - Nov 10 - 8:30 PM ET - Panthers (Monday Night) W (8-1) At this point local Radio Stations officially explode with talk of SB



11 - Nov 16 - 1:00 PM ET - at Packers L (8-2)



12 - Nov 23 - 1:00 PM ET - Titans W (9-2)



13 - Nov 27 - 4:30 PM ET - at Cowboys (Thanksgiving Afternoon) L (9-3)



14 - Dec 07 - 4:25 PM ET - Seahawks L (9-4)



15 - Dec 14 - 8:30 PM ET - Cowboys (Sunday Night) W (10-4)



16 - Dec 20 - 4:30 PM ET - at Redskins (Saturday Afternoon) L (10-5) Let down game with short rest and coming off big win against 'girls.



17 - Dec 28 - 1:00 PM ET - at Giants W (11-5)


 
1 - Sep 07 - 1:00 PM ET - Jaguars-W (1-0)
2 - Sep 15 - 8:30 PM ET - at Colts (Monday Night) W (2-0)
3 - Sep 21 - 1:00 PM ET - Redskins W (3-0!)
4 - Sep 28 - 4:25 PM ET - at 49ers L (3-1)
5 - Oct 05 - 1:00 PM ET - Rams W (4-1)
6 - Oct 12 - 8:30 PM ET - Giants (Sunday Night) W (5-1)
7 - Bye Week
8 - Oct 26 - 4:05 PM ET - at Cardinals W (6-1)
9 - Nov 02 - 1:00 PM ET - at Texans W (7-1)
10 - Nov 10 - 8:30 PM ET - Panthers (Monday Night) W (8-1) At this point local Radio Stations officially explode with talk of SB
11 - Nov 16 - 1:00 PM ET - at Packers L (8-2)
12 - Nov 23 - 1:00 PM ET - Titans W (9-2)
13 - Nov 27 - 4:30 PM ET - at Cowboys (Thanksgiving Afternoon) L (9-3)
14 - Dec 07 - 4:25 PM ET - Seahawks L (9-4)
15 - Dec 14 - 8:30 PM ET - Cowboys (Sunday Night) W (10-4)
16 - Dec 20 - 4:30 PM ET - at Redskins (Saturday Afternoon) L (10-5) Let down game with short rest and coming off big win against 'girls.
17 - Dec 28 - 1:00 PM ET - at Giants W (11-5)
hahah no chance we start 8-1. none. :P

 

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