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FBG 2014 "How did I do" Thread (1 Viewer)

Coots said:
Crabtree at 5.7 is just silly too... That was a great pick for you there
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There was really good value at the WR spot. All these guys were taken in the 5th: Patterson/Welker/Wright/Crabtree/Harvin/Floyd/Hilton/Maclin

I think they're all solid picks in that spot. This draft went real rb-heavy which pushed some of these names down. Also think Decker in the 8th is solid value. Even on that crap Jets team, hard to not see him catch 70+ balls. If that's his floor, I like him in that spot. Who else is catching balls there? If Vick is at the helm, then I like this pick even more.

 
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Da Gildz said:
Just finished my 1st draft, would love to hear some thoughts:

QB: Cutler (11), Wilson (12)

RB: Bush (3), Sankey (4), Tate (7), Freeman (10), Sims (14) , Stepfan Taylor (17)

WR: Demaryius (1), Crabtree (5), D-Jax (6), Decker (8), Benjamin (15)

TE: Gronk (2), Ebron (9), Allen (13), Austin S-Jenkins (18)

D - NYG (16)

K - Crosby (19), Gould (20)

Overall pretty happy. The 1 pick I'd like back is Ebron. I was staring at Zach Ertz the rd before and thought he'd be there for me on the way back. Took Decker and Ertz sure enough goes the very next pick. Green also snatched up so i reached for Ebron. Allen in rd 13 could be the better TE even...Think this is a pretty strong all around, proven talent with some upside flyers mixed in.

Thoughts?
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I know I'm choir preaching here but CRAB 5.7?!?!? picks 1-6 must be diehard Sherman fans

 
From the 11 spot on day one of FFPC drafting -

QB - A. Rodgers, Palmer

RB - Lacy, Spiller, Ridley, Ivory, Bryce Brown, Jerick McKinnon

WR - Cruz, Torrey Smith, Terrance Williams, Sammy Watkins, Andrew Hawkins, Jarrett Boykins, Andre Holmes

TE - Pitta, Garrett Graham, Eifert

K - Greg the Leg

Def - GB

Thoughts?

 
Longtucky Lemmings said:
From the 11 spot on day one of FFPC drafting -

QB - A. Rodgers, Palmer

RB - Lacy, Spiller, Ridley, Ivory, Bryce Brown, Jerick McKinnon

WR - Cruz, Torrey Smith, Terrance Williams, Sammy Watkins, Andrew Hawkins, Jarrett Boykins, Andre Holmes

TE - Pitta, Garrett Graham, Eifert

K - Greg the Leg

Def - GB

Thoughts?
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Seems like you are short one stud player here!!!!

Did you reach for Spiller at 2.2?? Not a horrible pick if he is your guy but it makes your roster look thin compared to some others that I have seen. I did a draft last weekend and had pick 12 and was able to snag Spiller at the 4.1 (incredible value i thought). Sometimes its good to be lucky unless he gets hurt in spring and then I guess I was unlucky.

You will need some good waiver wire management I think to compete though.

Good luck

 
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Longtucky Lemmings said:
From the 11 spot on day one of FFPC drafting -

QB - A. Rodgers, Palmer

RB - Lacy, Spiller, Ridley, Ivory, Bryce Brown, Jerick McKinnon

WR - Cruz, Torrey Smith, Terrance Williams, Sammy Watkins, Andrew Hawkins, Jarrett Boykins, Andre Holmes

TE - Pitta, Garrett Graham, Eifert

K - Greg the Leg

Def - GB

Thoughts?
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Seems like you are short one stud player here!!!!

Did you reach for Spiller at 2.2?? Not a horrible pick if he is your guy but it makes your roster look thin compared to some others that I have seen. I did a draft last weekend and had pick 12 and was able to snag Spiller at the 4.1 (incredible value i thought). Sometimes its good to be lucky unless he gets hurt in spring and then I guess I was unlucky.

You will need some good waiver wire management I think to compete though.

Good luck
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Thanks for the feedback.

I'll readily admit my projections likely vary greatly from yours but I've got Lacy and Spiller as Top 10 RBs, Cruz as a Top 10 WR, and Pitta as TE6. In my view, Rodgers is QB1 this season, Lacy, Cruz (and likely Pitta) get me high starter quality points on a weekly basis while guys like Spiller and Torrey Smith offer explosive upside.

Having said all that, it's not even training camp yet and I can't recall the last time I won a league starting off RB-RB from the latter half of the draft order. :)

This isn't my favorite team I've ever drafted but it's growing on me

 
Longtucky Lemmings said:
From the 11 spot on day one of FFPC drafting -

QB - A. Rodgers, Palmer

RB - Lacy, Spiller, Ridley, Ivory, Bryce Brown, Jerick McKinnon

WR - Cruz, Torrey Smith, Terrance Williams, Sammy Watkins, Andrew Hawkins, Jarrett Boykins, Andre Holmes

TE - Pitta, Garrett Graham, Eifert

K - Greg the Leg

Def - GB

Thoughts?
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I think it's decent overall. Myself I would have opted for 1 of those elite WR's at 2.2. I gotta think there was at least 1 left, maybe 2 in that spot. I like Spiller also but you're drafting him on his 2012 production. Or close to it. He may reach those #'s but u drafted him in a spot where he needs to, to justify that pick. Your RB depth behind Spiller is very thin. I'm not high on Ridley/Ivory in a PPR format.

The WR core looks solid overall. Watkins and Boykins could offer nice value. Think you're fine here.

TE's also serviceable.

Overall, I don't love it but you can compete for a playoff spot. Will need to work some waiver wire magic to boost those RB's.

 
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Longtucky Lemmings said:
Coots said:
Longtucky Lemmings said:
From the 11 spot on day one of FFPC drafting -

QB - A. Rodgers, Palmer

RB - Lacy, Spiller, Ridley, Ivory, Bryce Brown, Jerick McKinnon

WR - Cruz, Torrey Smith, Terrance Williams, Sammy Watkins, Andrew Hawkins, Jarrett Boykins, Andre Holmes

TE - Pitta, Garrett Graham, Eifert

K - Greg the Leg

Def - GB

Thoughts?
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Seems like you are short one stud player here!!!!

Did you reach for Spiller at 2.2?? Not a horrible pick if he is your guy but it makes your roster look thin compared to some others that I have seen. I did a draft last weekend and had pick 12 and was able to snag Spiller at the 4.1 (incredible value i thought). Sometimes its good to be lucky unless he gets hurt in spring and then I guess I was unlucky.

You will need some good waiver wire management I think to compete though.

Good luck
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Thanks for the feedback.

I'll readily admit my projections likely vary greatly from yours but I've got Lacy and Spiller as Top 10 RBs, Cruz as a Top 10 WR, and Pitta as TE6. In my view, Rodgers is QB1 this season, Lacy, Cruz (and likely Pitta) get me high starter quality points on a weekly basis while guys like Spiller and Torrey Smith offer explosive upside.

Having said all that, it's not even training camp yet and I can't recall the last time I won a league starting off RB-RB from the latter half of the draft order. :)

This isn't my favorite team I've ever drafted but it's growing on me
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I'm not knocking any of the players you drafted as I like them all too.. I just think you might of been able to slide everyone back a round and ended up with an extra stud..

On that team from the 12 spot I mentioned I have Spiller, Cruz, Smith, and Pitta the same as you... If Lacy was there at 12 I would of had him too... The difference is I have Julio Jones added in also.. My RB was Murray but would draft Lacy over him...

So I hope your team does very well honestly

 
Exploring different tactics. From 2:

QB: Ryan, Smith

RB: McCoy, Foster, rashad jennings, miller, wilson, andre brown

WR: Cobb, Golden Tate, Sanders, boykin, benjamin, wilson, hawkins

TE: Olsen, Eifert, Ausberry

K: Bailey

D: Houston

 
ffrookie said:
Exploring different tactics. From 2:

QB: Ryan, Smith

RB: McCoy, Foster, rashad jennings, miller, wilson, andre brown

WR: Cobb, Golden Tate, Sanders, boykin, benjamin, wilson, hawkins

TE: Olsen, Eifert, Ausberry

K: Bailey

D: Houston
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Not good.Going rb-heavy strategy from the 2 hole is a difficult task. I like McCoy/Foster/Cobb as the start. After that, no bueno. Jennings/Olsen at the 4/5 spot when u have 1 WR rostered, this is where your draft went south. I could see going for a rb/TE in those spots if they were real difference makers or really high ceiling guys. But Jennings and Olsen aren't that. Nice players but you could have went WR/WR and this team looks wayyyyy better. I don't view Olsen that much better then guys u can get 3 rds later. Your next pick was #71 having Cobb and nothing behind him. What you're left with is a very mediocre WR core. QBs are ok, TE's very average. You need a lot of help for this squad to contend. This strategy is better served drafting in the middle of the rds.

Good luck

 
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rustycolts said:
Well I probably would have been better off just throwing my money in the street,but I love abuse so oh well.

from the 6 spot.

Drew Brees

P.Rivers

Lynch

Morris

Woodhead

Blount

Starks

Tolbert

Decker

Cooper

Boldin

Nicks

Woods

D.Moore

J. Graham

Witten

Clay

Gost

Hauschka

Steelers

My only saving grace is there are quite a few teams that look as bad as mine so maybe with a lot of luck....
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With your 3-headed monster at TE, you are going to brutalize some teams when your TEs go off for a combined 70-80 points together. and if Graham is going off, Brees is going to have a 25-30+ point game.

What round did you get Rivers in? with Brees, you probably could have grabbed your QB2 in rounds 16-20 (QB20-25ish like Locker, Manuel, Eli, etc.)

oBviously your WR are a weak spot..but you'll be playing only two, so hopefully two emerge as obvious starters, or you'll be pulling your hair out deciding among 4 guys who are basically the same production at seasons end (Decker, Boldin, Nicks, Cooper)..

Your two primary RB aren't going to help you out with receptions, but Woodhead is a nice RB3 that you may play more than you think if either Lynch or Morris disapoint, nicely done.

 
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ffrookie said:
Exploring different tactics. From 2:

QB: Ryan, Smith

RB: McCoy, Foster, rashad jennings, miller, wilson, andre brown

WR: Cobb, Golden Tate, Sanders, boykin, benjamin, wilson, hawkins

TE: Olsen, Eifert, Ausberry

K: Bailey

D: Houston
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Not good.Going rb-heavy strategy from the 2 hole is a difficult task. I like McCoy/Foster/Cobb as the start. After that, no bueno. Jennings/Olsen at the 4/5 spot when u have 1 WR rostered, this is where your draft went south. I could see going for a rb/TE in those spots if they were real difference makers or really high ceiling guys. But Jennings and Olsen aren't that. Nice players but you could have went WR/WR and this team looks wayyyyy better. I don't view Olsen that much better then guys u can get 3 rds later. Your next pick was #71 having Cobb and nothing behind him. What you're left with is a very mediocre WR core. QBs are ok, TE's very average. You need a lot of help for this squad to contend. This strategy is better served drafting in the middle of the rds.

Good luck
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I don't see anything wrong with the "strategy" as in seems you were trying to grab value where it fell as opposed to forcing a RB strategy. Personally, I try to skimp on RB more to beef up WR or TE, but can see taking the players you took in those spots.

I would be interested to see what rounds you took some of these players in, as I think we may diverge in certain player valuations.

Love the RBs, generally like the WRs, Like the starting TE and QB but dont necessarily like the backups at those positions, specifically Eifert as a TE2. I don't see the need to grab 3 NYG RBs, as if you think Jennings is worth a 4th or 5th then the others shouldn't be doing much this year.

 
First FPC draft of the year, from the 3-hole:

QB: P Manning (3), E Manning (17)

RB: Rice (6), Ridley (7), Pierce (8), Michael (10), D Williams (11), Blount (15)

WR: J Nelson (2), M Floyd (4), Welker (5), Decker (9), Jennings (12), Hartline (13), Cotchery (16)

TE: J Graham (1), Kelce (14), M Lewis (20)

K: Dawson

D: HOU

Screwed around a bit and went off-plan by using 2 of the first 3 picks on non-RB/WR. This left me chasing RB, hope to find 2 serviceable guys in that group.

 
So I've heard a lot of discussion on Olsen in the thread and I thought I would do some research on his scoring last year. Looking at splits of the first half of the 2013 season versus the second half shows a large difference. In weeks 1-8, Olsen ranked as TE 12 but in weeks 9-16 he moved all the way up to TE3 in the rankings including 6 out of 7 weeks where he scored at least 16 points. I'd also point out that this year Carolina will be without their 3 leading WRs from last year. I like Benjamin to get targets but at this point he is still a raw route runner and Cotchery is more of a RZ threat so I see the reception and TD #'s increasing this year.

1: 13.10

2: 24.90

3: 11.40

4: bye

5: 15.40

6: 4.90

7: 10.7

8: 12.60

9: 18.60

10: 2.9

11: 18.7

12: 16.9

13: 16.0

14: 16.0

15: 16.3

16: 9.2

17: 19.2

 


OK, rip it up. 8th spot.



Cam Newton, Eli Manning

Cam’s bye is week 12. Eli plays Dallas that week, otherwise, not a fan.



Eddie Lacy, Joique Bell, Jeremy Hill, Stevan Ridley, Andre Brown, Lache Seastrunk



Antonio Brown, Kendall Wright, Dwayne Bowe, James Jones, Andrew Hawkins, Donnie Avery

Lacy in 1st, Brown in 2nd. As it turned out, I could have gone with Dez and then Murray. I think I would have liked that more, but I’m OK with this.



Jordan Cameron, Jordan Reed, Marcedes Lewis

Cameron in the 3rd which is where he’s gone in just about every draft I’ve seen.



Shayne Graham, Steven Hauschka, BAL Team Defense

In early drafts I usually take 2 K’s. Graham gets dropped after Hauschka’s week 4 bye

 
A couple of my favorite swing for the fences teams I've drafted so far.

Drafting 2nd

QB- Andrew Luck

RB- Rashad Jennings, Toby Gerhart, Bernard Pierce, Jonathan Stewart, Roy Helu, Shonn Greene, Dexter McCluster(hopeful for position switch)

WR- Alshon Jeffery, Marques Colston, DeAndre Hopkins, Justin Hunter, Doug Baldwin, Marques Wilson

TE- Jimmy Graham, Rob Gronkowski, Dwayne Allen, David Ausberry

DST- NYJ

K- Adam Vinatieri

Obviously team above could flame out pretty easily but I think its ceiling is quite high.

2nd Team from #6

Qb- Cam Newton, Carson Palmer

Rb- DeMarco Murray, Bishop Sankey, Terrance West, Jeremy Hill, Cj Anderson, Chris Polk, Bryce Brown, Dexter McCluster

WR- Calvin Johnson, Alshon Jeffrey, Vincent Jackson, Michael Floyd(6.7), Kendall Wright

TE- Martellus Bennett, Heath Miller, Jermichael Finley

DST- STL

K- Mason Crosby

I think this team got the most "value" from any of the drafts Ive had thus far, but values change quite a bit come October.

 
Did one more tonight, very different feel from the back half of the draft as opposed to the 1 and 2 spots I had on my first 2.

From the 8 hole:

Brees(4)

Stacy(3)/Jennings(5)/Rice(7)/West(10)/Knile Davis(13)/Ingram(14)/Bradshaw(16)

Dez(1)/Marshall(2)/Michael Floyd(6)/Colston(8)/Jennings(12)/Britt(15)

Gates(9)/Eifert(11)/Rivera(17)/Griffin(18)

Ravens(19)

Henery(20)

Obvious front line weakness at RB and overall at TE, but hoping QB/WR makes up for it. Just need 1 TE to pan out, maybe Gates early and one of the youngins late since my flexes will almost always come from RB/WR.

 
2nd team drafted from the 10 hole...

QB: RG3 (7), Dalton (13)

RB: Jennings (3), Sankey (5), Woodhead (8), Freeman (9), Mason (11), James White (17)

WR: AJ Green (1), DJax (6), Matthews (10), Marvin Jones (12), Beckham (14), Robert Woods (16)

TE: Gronk (2), Witten (4), Finley (15)

D: NYG (19)

K: Prater (18), Gould (20)

Oh boy. This draft was a tough one. Guys were seemingly taking my picks every rd. Probably should have taken a rb in rd 4 but I was staring at Gerhart/Alf/Zac Stacy...not high on any of them really. Really need 1 of Freeman/Mason to be something this yr. I cant stomach starting Danny Woodhead in my flex.

I think my WR core while top heavy, those guys are intriguing on the backend.

Overall, not to happy. Need Gronk/Witten to be beastly or work some waiver wire magic.

 
Level 3 Offenders said:
A couple of my favorite swing for the fences teams I've drafted so far.

Drafting 2nd

QB- Andrew Luck

RB- Rashad Jennings, Toby Gerhart, Bernard Pierce, Jonathan Stewart, Roy Helu, Shonn Greene, Dexter McCluster(hopeful for position switch)

WR- Alshon Jeffery, Marques Colston, DeAndre Hopkins, Justin Hunter, Doug Baldwin, Marques Wilson

TE- Jimmy Graham, Rob Gronkowski, Dwayne Allen, David Ausberry

DST- NYJ

K- Adam Vinatieri

Obviously team above could flame out pretty easily but I think its ceiling is quite high.

2nd Team from #6

Qb- Cam Newton, Carson Palmer

Rb- DeMarco Murray, Bishop Sankey, Terrance West, Jeremy Hill, Cj Anderson, Chris Polk, Bryce Brown, Dexter McCluster

WR- Calvin Johnson, Alshon Jeffrey, Vincent Jackson, Michael Floyd(6.7), Kendall Wright

TE- Martellus Bennett, Heath Miller, Jermichael Finley

DST- STL

K- Mason Crosby

I think this team got the most "value" from any of the drafts Ive had thus far, but values change quite a bit come October.
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Team 2

This team has some serious upside and could do very well....

 
Da Gildz said:
2nd team drafted from the 10 hole...

QB: RG3 (7), Dalton (13)

RB: Jennings (3), Sankey (5), Woodhead (8), Freeman (9), Mason (11), James White (17)

WR: AJ Green (1), DJax (6), Matthews (10), Marvin Jones (12), Beckham (14), Robert Woods (16)

TE: Gronk (2), Witten (4), Finley (15)

D: NYG (19)

K: Prater (18), Gould (20)

Oh boy. This draft was a tough one. Guys were seemingly taking my picks every rd. Probably should have taken a rb in rd 4 but I was staring at Gerhart/Alf/Zac Stacy...not high on any of them really. Really need 1 of Freeman/Mason to be something this yr. I cant stomach starting Danny Woodhead in my flex.

I think my WR core while top heavy, those guys are intriguing on the backend.

Overall, not to happy. Need Gronk/Witten to be beastly or work some waiver wire magic.
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Man you have changed your mind on Gronk..... I just cannot take him that high unless I see him fully healthy first... There is still a chance he missed a few games to start the season and that was a major injury he is coming back from... You will also need a lot from your rookies. You will probably struggle with this team though unless you find some waiver wire magic..

Jennings in 3rd seems way too early too... He might perform as such but I'm not sure..

 
By the way that was me drafting in front of you... That's why I was giving you such a hard time... LOL

 
Coots first of all thank you for your service and congrats on a great win.I was way way out of contention last year so it was entertaining to watch that all shake out last season.Good luck this year and am looking foward to reading more of your input.What do you think about my team in post 20?

 
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Coots said:
Da Gildz said:
2nd team drafted from the 10 hole...

QB: RG3 (7), Dalton (13)

RB: Jennings (3), Sankey (5), Woodhead (8), Freeman (9), Mason (11), James White (17)

WR: AJ Green (1), DJax (6), Matthews (10), Marvin Jones (12), Beckham (14), Robert Woods (16)

TE: Gronk (2), Witten (4), Finley (15)

D: NYG (19)

K: Prater (18), Gould (20)

Oh boy. This draft was a tough one. Guys were seemingly taking my picks every rd. Probably should have taken a rb in rd 4 but I was staring at Gerhart/Alf/Zac Stacy...not high on any of them really. Really need 1 of Freeman/Mason to be something this yr. I cant stomach starting Danny Woodhead in my flex.

I think my WR core while top heavy, those guys are intriguing on the backend.

Overall, not to happy. Need Gronk/Witten to be beastly or work some waiver wire magic.
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Man you have changed your mind on Gronk..... I just cannot take him that high unless I see him fully healthy first... There is still a chance he missed a few games to start the season and that was a major injury he is coming back from... You will also need a lot from your rookies. You will probably struggle with this team though unless you find some waiver wire magic..

Jennings in 3rd seems way too early too... He might perform as such but I'm not sure..
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Yep I've changed my tune on Gronk. From all reports, he's ready to go for the start of the season. If he gets hurt again so be it. But his ceiling is just so high in this format, I'm willing to take the risk. And frankly, I don't think he's coming back to me in the 3rd. Especially mid-late 3rd, that would be extremely unlikely.

I passed on Bush this time for Jennings. I knew I'd be taking a risky 2nd RB afterwards and Jennings will be a workhorse for the GMen. I wanted a stable option there and I actually think Jennings is pretty underrated this yr. He's going to get 250+ touches and catch a ton of balls on a potent NYG offense. Whats not to like? Andre Will cant catch a football. His role is pretty defined.

I'm a lot more concerned with my WR core. Really need 1 of those young guys to step up and be a serviceable option.

And you're joking right? You were that Ben character??

 
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I was buddy, I thought you would catch on...... Didn't have the heart to tell you in the room though....

I don't like my team much but like I said I have freeman on 4 out of 6 teams already.... Just wanted another WR and didn't think Amendola would make it back to me... Worth the risk.

Gronk would of definitely not made it back you.. I would of taking him in 3rd if he had fallen...

 
rustycolts said:
Well I probably would have been better off just throwing my money in the street,but I love abuse so oh well.

from the 6 spot.

Drew Brees

P.Rivers

Lynch

Morris

Woodhead

Blount

Starks

Tolbert

Decker

Cooper

Boldin

Nicks

Woods

D.Moore

J. Graham

Witten

Clay

Gost

Hauschka

Steelers

My only saving grace is there are quite a few teams that look as bad as mine so maybe with a lot of luck....
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Man I hate your WR's... Just too thin for my liking..

Now in saying that you have an edge in QB and TE which is very important.... RBs are ok as well.. So overall having an edge in 2 positions is extremely important and gives you a chance for sure.. You just need to have a couple of those WRs pan out...

 
Coots said:
I was buddy, I thought you would catch on...... Didn't have the heart to tell you in the room though....

I don't like my team much but like I said I have freeman on 4 out of 6 teams already.... Just wanted another WR and didn't think Amendola would make it back to me... Worth the risk.

Gronk would of definitely not made it back you.. I would of taking him in 3rd if he had fallen...
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So Ben Grignon is your partner then?

Did u know that other guy you were going back and forth with? I was messing with you, I don't hate your team nearly as much as I was saying. I don't like it that much either though, think its pretty dam similar to mine actually. Top TE, mediocre backfield, 1 stud WR with a nice WR2 behind. Who would u be flexing in that lineup, Torrey/S-Jax? That WinnahWinnah owner had a monster draft, he probably took 5 guys at least who I was targeting the same rd as him. He was always 1 step ahead...look out for that team..

 
I would be flexing Torrey (I am really high on him) most weeks... I know there was zero value that fell in this draft for the backend. However the front end had value all over the place, man I would of loved to had a top 6 pick last night.... Got behind the 8 ball drafting the stud TE early and always seemed like I was playing catch up, I hate when that happens in a draft..

Yeah that guy is one of my good friends... The guy in the 12 hole I do a lot of Dynasty with. I try to change names so people don't know who I am in the draft as they always seem to take the guys I like in the late rounds a round early... So know that was just a made up name for last night...

That was my 4th time out of 6 with pick 9 already... I wanted to change this one up because all my teams where looking just alike.. I hate it when too many seems to always end up with the same players..

I thought Winna Winna had an excellent draft as well... Those top 6 picks had everything fall to them...

 
Here is something to consider.. Match up these two teams and tell me what you think of both, both teams are drafted from same spot 1 night apart.

QB B Rothliesberger, Tannehill

RB M. Ball, A Ellington, T Gerhart, B Pierce, T West, R Helu

WR D. Bryant, D. Jackson, M. Colston, G Tate, A Dobson, J Hunter, R Streater

TE D Pitta, R Rodgers, D Ausberry

Novak, Carolina

Second Team

QB M Ryan, C Newton

RB T Gerhart, C Johnson, S Jackson, T West, R Helu, A Brown, M Ingram

WR D Bryant, P Garcon, T Smith, D Amendola, K Benjamin, J Cotchery

TE J Thomas, A Gates, D Ausberry

Zuerlein, KC

So what do you think about the two, man its a huge difference I think

 
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Here is something to consider.. Match up these two teams and tell me what you think of both, both teams are drafted from same spot 1 night apart.

QB B Rothliesberger, Tannehill

RB M. Ball, A Ellington, T Gerhart, B Pierce, T West, R Helu

WR D. Bryant, D. Jackson, M. Colston, G Tate, A Dobson, J Hunter, R Streater

TE D Pitta, R Rodgers, D Ausberry

Novak, Carolina

Second Team

QB M Ryan, C Newton

RB T Gerhart, C Johnson, S Jackson, T West, R Helu, A Brown, M Ingram

WR D Bryant, P Garcon, T Smith, D Amendola, K Benjamin, J Cotchery

TE J Thomas, A Gates, D Ausberry

Zuerlein, KC

So what do you think about the two, man its a huge difference I think
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1st team - Backfield and WR core stands out. Could be 5-deep at some point, both RB's and WR's. Ellington fell to 3.9? That's really good value in my eyes. Who did u take at 4.4? Gerhart? D-Jax? Pitta? That pick seems bad whoever it was. Overall, a ton of depth at RB/WR, the QB's are weak and Pitta is on an island there with your TE's. Has a lot of potential.

2nd team - you know my thoughts by now. Shaky. Relying on those top 3 backs all with low ceilings. WR core is solid, TE's are top heavy there , don't like Gates this yr. Nice QB/Tandem. Could be solid or terrible.

 
Coots said:
Here is something to consider.. Match up these two teams and tell me what you think of both, both teams are drafted from same spot 1 night apart.

QB B Rothliesberger, Tannehill

RB M. Ball, A Ellington, T Gerhart, B Pierce, T West, R Helu

WR D. Bryant, D. Jackson, M. Colston, G Tate, A Dobson, J Hunter, R Streater

TE D Pitta, R Rodgers, D Ausberry

Novak, Carolina

Second Team

QB M Ryan, C Newton

RB T Gerhart, C Johnson, S Jackson, T West, R Helu, A Brown, M Ingram

WR D Bryant, P Garcon, T Smith, D Amendola, K Benjamin, J Cotchery

TE J Thomas, A Gates, D Ausberry

Zuerlein, KC

So what do you think about the two, man its a huge difference I think
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I would prefer the 2nd roster personally. Team 1 obviously much stronger at RB1, and slight lead at RB2 and Flex 2, but team 2 slightly stronger at QB and WR2, and much stronger at TE1. Ultimately, I think it is more likely that one of team 2's RBs approaches Ball's level of production (mostly via a Ball injury or ineffectiveness) than Pitta coming anywhere near Julius' production.

 
Coots,

Your winning team last year.....what was your starting lineup most the year and what were your first 5 picks? I can't find it anywhere but Im interested.

 
Had the #1 week in the 1st week of drafting. My team as follows:

QB: Peyton (3)

RB: McCoy (1); Woodhead (6); McFadden (7); Jon Stewart (11)

WR: Cobb (2); Roddy White (4); Percy Harvin (5); Amendola (9); Streater (12); Britt (17); Miles Austin (18)

TE: Martellus Bennett (8); Ebron (10); Sefarian-Jenkins (13); Finley (16); Quarles (20)

DEF: NE (14); Chi (15)

PK: Blair Walsh (19)

Thoughts? I know, RB depth is the issue .... and hoping one out of Ebron/Sefarian/Finley pans out as a solid starter at TE to add depth/bye week fill etc :)

 
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ImTheScientist said:
Coots,

Your winning team last year.....what was your starting lineup most the year and what were your first 5 picks? I can't find it anywhere but Im interested.
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What's up Scientist....

First 5 picks were Charles, Marshall, Murray, McFadden, Brown

QB- I rotated all year, kept 3 on roster and just played matchups

RB- Charles

RB- Murray

WR- Marshall

WR- Brown

Flex- Gordon

Flex- Jackson, McFadden, Jennings.. Played Matchup, some weeks started H Douglas too

TE- Olsen

K- Gano

Def- NE or Arizona

I really had a good draft of positional players and Gordon was a gift last year due to his suspension in these drafts...

Just got really hot over the last 9 weeks of the year

Good luck this year

 
Coots, do u take into consideration weeks 14-16 when you're drafting? Or do u not even look at that.

Also what are your thoughts on the week 12-bye players? Stay away unless its good value? Antonio Brown lasted till 3.1 because of it. Still mixed on it. I tend to stay away entirely if I can

 
Da Gildz said:
Coots, do u take into consideration weeks 14-16 when you're drafting? Or do u not even look at that.

Also what are your thoughts on the week 12-bye players? Stay away unless its good value? Antonio Brown lasted till 3.1 because of it. Still mixed on it. I tend to stay away entirely if I can
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I stay away from week 12 players on bye completely unless its killer value... Just don't like having one of my top 2 picks on bye during week 12...

I definitely look at 14-16, that's where the big money is.. I give guys that I see as having an easy schedule or nice playing conditions during that week a bump up..

 
Coots said:
Here is something to consider.. Match up these two teams and tell me what you think of both, both teams are drafted from same spot 1 night apart.

QB B Rothliesberger, Tannehill

RB M. Ball, A Ellington, T Gerhart, B Pierce, T West, R Helu

WR D. Bryant, D. Jackson, M. Colston, G Tate, A Dobson, J Hunter, R Streater

TE D Pitta, R Rodgers, D Ausberry

Novak, Carolina

Second Team

QB M Ryan, C Newton

RB T Gerhart, C Johnson, S Jackson, T West, R Helu, A Brown, M Ingram

WR D Bryant, P Garcon, T Smith, D Amendola, K Benjamin, J Cotchery

TE J Thomas, A Gates, D Ausberry

Zuerlein, KC

So what do you think about the two, man its a huge difference I think
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Easily team 1 for me, I actually think you'll be better off at qb than you think....I like the rb depth there and love Pitta

 
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Just drafted and went QB early

QB: Rodgers, Palmer

RB: Forte, Mathews, Miller, Pierce, Stewart, White

WR: Brown, Garcon, Wright, Hopkins, Boykin, Hawkins

TE: Clay, Allen, Lewis

K: Dawson

D: Buffalo

Pretty happy outside of TE although I think Clay will do just fine.

 
ffrookie said:
Just drafted and went QB early

QB: Rodgers, Palmer

RB: Forte, Mathews, Miller, Pierce, Stewart, White

WR: Brown, Garcon, Wright, Hopkins, Boykin, Hawkins

TE: Clay, Allen, Lewis

K: Dawson

D: Buffalo

Pretty happy outside of TE although I think Clay will do just fine.
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This is probably my favorite team of yours thus far. Pretty strong all over. Best part is that group of WR's, solid and deep. Rb's are serviceable. A bit thin after Miller tho. Clay and Allen are not too bad either. Add in Rodgers, this team can be a playoff squad for sure. You can flex Pierce also until Rice is back. Not bad.

 
Thanks. Just did 1 more which will be my last until August.

QB: Foles, Palmer

RB: J Bell, Sankey, Stacy, Anderson, Sims, Tre Mason, Crowell

WR: Julio Jones, Wallace, Maclin, Boykin, Hawkins, Wheaton

TE: Graham, Clay, Lewis

K: Tucker

D: Bills

 
ffrookie said:
Thanks. Just did 1 more which will be my last until August.

QB: Foles, Palmer

RB: J Bell, Sankey, Stacy, Anderson, Sims, Tre Mason, Crowell

WR: Julio Jones, Wallace, Maclin, Boykin, Hawkins, Wheaton

TE: Graham, Clay, Lewis

K: Tucker

D: Bills
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I like it outside of WR2/3, im not high on either of those 2 this yr. Couple questions. Where did u draft that u were able to get Graham/Julio. Did Graham fall in the 1st or Julio fall in the 2nd? I like the combo. Also, Im curious , who did u take in rd 3? Stacy, Sankey or Bell?? Think you reached there on whoever u took. I do like how u handcuffed Stacy with Mason. With Sankey/Bell, you should be ok at rb, not great. WR's should be ok as well, nothing special. Graham makes up for some of those weaknesses. Overall, I don't love it, but I don't think its bad either. Seems somewhere in the middle to me. Might need things to break right to contend..

 
ffrookie said:
Just drafted and went QB early

QB: Rodgers, Palmer

RB: Forte, Mathews, Miller, Pierce, Stewart, White

WR: Brown, Garcon, Wright, Hopkins, Boykin, Hawkins

TE: Clay, Allen, Lewis

K: Dawson

D: Buffalo

Pretty happy outside of TE although I think Clay will do just fine.
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Garcon late 4th? How'd that happen...

 
ffrookie said:
Thanks. Just did 1 more which will be my last until August.

QB: Foles, Palmer

RB: J Bell, Sankey, Stacy, Anderson, Sims, Tre Mason, Crowell

WR: Julio Jones, Wallace, Maclin, Boykin, Hawkins, Wheaton

TE: Graham, Clay, Lewis

K: Tucker

D: Bills
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Bell round 3???

 
Da Gildz said:
ffrookie said:
Thanks. Just did 1 more which will be my last until August.

QB: Foles, Palmer

RB: J Bell, Sankey, Stacy, Anderson, Sims, Tre Mason, Crowell

WR: Julio Jones, Wallace, Maclin, Boykin, Hawkins, Wheaton

TE: Graham, Clay, Lewis

K: Tucker

D: Bills
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I like it outside of WR2/3, im not high on either of those 2 this yr. Couple questions. Where did u draft that u were able to get Graham/Julio. Did Graham fall in the 1st or Julio fall in the 2nd? I like the combo. Also, Im curious , who did u take in rd 3? Stacy, Sankey or Bell?? Think you reached there on whoever u took. I do like how u handcuffed Stacy with Mason. With Sankey/Bell, you should be ok at rb, not great. WR's should be ok as well, nothing special. Graham makes up for some of those weaknesses. Overall, I don't love it, but I don't think its bad either. Seems somewhere in the middle to me. Might need things to break right to contend..
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This is why I think it is beneficial for everyone to disclose rounds up front. If I had to guess, I would go:

3rd - Stacy

4th - Bell

5th - Sankey

6th - Foles (maybe wallace?)

7th - Wallace

8th - Clay

9th - Maclin

10th - Boykin

11th - Anderson

12th - Mason

13th - Sims (listed before Mason, so possibly went in 12th)

@ffrookie how did I do there?

I like the general strategy of maximizing points in rounds 1-2, hitting some RBs for a couple rounds and then taking some upside plays. I'm personally not touching Joique this year, so I might have goine a different position there. Sankey is good value in the 5th, and I think Stacy is likely to be decent value in the 3rd quite frankly (though some uncertainty on how that job shakes out).

I don't see much of a dropoff from Foles to QB14, so I would have waited and grabbed another WR in that range - but smarter people than I, e.g. Mike Clay, are driving the Foles bandwagon.


At WR, I think you are missing a WR2. Skipping on Foles seemingly would have solved this, but Wallace/Maclin/Boykin should give you 2 good scores every week - I just don't know which 2 will put them up in any given week :) .

Clay is good value in the 8th/9th, and with Graham those 2 should be enough at TE.

 
Sweetness_34 said:
Had the #1 week in the 1st week of drafting. My team as follows:

QB: Peyton (3)

RB: McCoy (1); Woodhead (6); McFadden (7); Jon Stewart (11)

WR: Cobb (2); Roddy White (4); Percy Harvin (5); Amendola (9); Streater (12); Britt (17); Miles Austin (18)

TE: Martellus Bennett (8); Ebron (10); Sefarian-Jenkins (13); Finley (16); Quarles (20)

DEF: NE (14); Chi (15)

PK: Blair Walsh (19)

Thoughts? I know, RB depth is the issue .... and hoping one out of Ebron/Sefarian/Finley pans out as a solid starter at TE to add depth/bye week fill etc :)
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Peyton. Not much to say, but I probably would draft a BU this early. Injuries happen.

Hopefully Woodhead has a start like he did last year. McFadden has been kinda brittle, but might be OK with MJD shouldering most of the load. Yes, this is the 1st area I'd look to shore up via WW. Taking Peyton and 3 WR's before your 2nd RB made things a little tough for you.

If Harvin and/or Amendola stay healthy, your WR's will be a strength and fill your flex spots.

I like Bennett. The others look like pick and pray and you never know, but I would prefer a more solid BU (maybe Ebron is that guy) and then 1 or 2 more speculative picks.

JMO - Maybe taking a RB in the 5th and a WR in the 6th would have given you a better result.

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I picked out of 7 whole so was very happy to get Jimmy Graham and Julio Jones back to back. Huge RB run is what hurt me although I think I should be fine. Foles was a calculated risk so hopefully it pans out.

(1) Graham

(2) Julio Jones

(3) Stacy

(4) Bell (debated taking Cruz)

(5) Sankey

(6) Wallace

(7) Maclin

(8) Clay

(9) Foles

(10) Boykin

(11) Mason

(12) Wheaton

(13) Anderson

(14) Palmer

(15) Hawkins

(16) Sims

(17) Lewis

(18) Tucker

(19) Buffalo

(20) Crowell

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Da Gildz, on 15 Jul 2014 - 07:55 AM, said:

Da Gildz said:
ffrookie, on 14 Jul 2014 - 10:06 PM, said:

ffrookie said:
Thanks. Just did 1 more which will be my last until August.

QB: Foles, Palmer

RB: J Bell, Sankey, Stacy, Anderson, Sims, Tre Mason, Crowell

WR: Julio Jones, Wallace, Maclin, Boykin, Hawkins, Wheaton

TE: Graham, Clay, Lewis

K: Tucker

D: Bills
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I like it outside of WR2/3, im not high on either of those 2 this yr. Couple questions. Where did u draft that u were able to get Graham/Julio. Did Graham fall in the 1st or Julio fall in the 2nd? I like the combo. Also, Im curious , who did u take in rd 3? Stacy, Sankey or Bell?? Think you reached there on whoever u took. I do like how u handcuffed Stacy with Mason. With Sankey/Bell, you should be ok at rb, not great. WR's should be ok as well, nothing special. Graham makes up for some of those weaknesses. Overall, I don't love it, but I don't think its bad either. Seems somewhere in the middle to me. Might need things to break right to contend..
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This is why I think it is beneficial for everyone to disclose rounds up front. If I had to guess, I would go:

3rd - Stacy

4th - Bell

5th - Sankey

6th - Foles (maybe wallace?)

7th - Wallace

8th - Clay

9th - Maclin

10th - Boykin

11th - Anderson

12th - Mason

13th - Sims (listed before Mason, so possibly went in 12th)

@ffrookie how did I do there?

I like the general strategy of maximizing points in rounds 1-2, hitting some RBs for a couple rounds and then taking some upside plays. I'm personally not touching Joique this year, so I might have goine a different position there. Sankey is good value in the 5th, and I think Stacy is likely to be decent value in the 3rd quite frankly (though some uncertainty on how that job shakes out).

I don't see much of a dropoff from Foles to QB14, so I would have waited and grabbed another WR in that range - but smarter people than I, e.g. Mike Clay, are driving the Foles bandwagon.


At WR, I think you are missing a WR2. Skipping on Foles seemingly would have solved this, but Wallace/Maclin/Boykin should give you 2 good scores every week - I just don't know which 2 will put them up in any given week :) .

Clay is good value in the 8th/9th, and with Graham those 2 should be enough at TE.


 
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ffrookie, on 14 Jul 2014 - 7:35 PM, said:

ffrookie said:
Just drafted and went QB early

QB: Rodgers, Palmer

RB: Forte, Mathews, Miller, Pierce, Stewart, White

WR: Brown, Garcon, Wright, Hopkins, Boykin, Hawkins

TE: Clay, Allen, Lewis

K: Dawson

D: Buffalo

Pretty happy outside of TE although I think Clay will do just fine.
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Garcon late 4th? How'd that happen...

Picks went:

(1) Forte

(2) Antonio Brown

(3) Garcon

(4) Rodgers

(5) Mathews

(6) Wright

(7) Miller

(8) Clay

(9) Pierce

(10) Hopkins

(11) Boykins

(12) Allen

(13) Palmer

(14) Stewart

(15) Hakins

(16) White

(17) Lewis

(18) Dawson

(19) Buffalo

(20) Baldwin


 
ffrookie said:
I picked out of 7 whole so was very happy to get Jimmy Graham and Julio Jones back to back. Huge RB run is what hurt me although I think I should be fine. Foles was a calculated risk so hopefully it pans out.

(1) Graham

(2) Julio Jones

(3) Stacy

(4) Bell (debated taking Cruz)

(5) Sankey

(6) Wallace

(7) Maclin

(8) Clay

(9) Foles

(10) Boykin

(11) Mason

(12) Wheaton

(13) Anderson

(14) Palmer

(15) Hawkins

(16) Sims

(17) Lewis

(18) Tucker

(19) Buffalo

(20) Crowell
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I take back my Foles criticism, he is great value in the 9th. Not a fan of Wallace/Maclin in 6th/7th personally, but I could be very wrong.

 
ffrookie said:
Posted Today, 08:55 AM

ffrookie, on 14 Jul 2014 - 7:35 PM, said:

ffrookie said:
Just drafted and went QB early

QB: Rodgers, Palmer

RB: Forte, Mathews, Miller, Pierce, Stewart, White

WR: Brown, Garcon, Wright, Hopkins, Boykin, Hawkins

TE: Clay, Allen, Lewis

K: Dawson

D: Buffalo

Pretty happy outside of TE although I think Clay will do just fine.
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Garcon late 4th? How'd that happen...

Picks went:

(1) Forte

(2) Antonio Brown

(3) Garcon

(4) Rodgers

(5) Mathews

(6) Wright

(7) Miller

(8) Clay

(9) Pierce

(10) Hopkins

(11) Boykins

(12) Allen

(13) Palmer

(14) Stewart

(15) Hakins

(16) White

(17) Lewis

(18) Dawson

(19) Buffalo

(20) Baldwin
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ahhhh yes...your "qb early" threw me off...I've done way too many mocks where people jump on qbs in rounds 2/3

 
Which team do you like better?

Team 1

QB - P Manning (3)

RB - E Lacy (1), G Bernard (2), C Johnson (6), J Starks (14)

WR - V Jackson (4), E Sanders (7), T Williams (8), K Stills (9), G Jennings (12), M Wheaton (13), S Smith (16), B LaFell (17), D Adams (20)

TE - D Pitta (5), E Ebron (11), O Daniels (15)

K - D Bailey (18)

D - Sea (10), KC (19)

Team 2

QB - C Newton (11), R Tannehill (19)

RB - R Mathews (4), S Jackson (7), MJD (8), D Freeman (9), D McFadden (12), D Brown (13)

WR - D Thomas (1), A Brown (2), P Garcon (3), D Jackson (6), T Austin (10), M Wheaton (14), O Beckham Jr (16)

TE - G Olsen (5), T Kelce (15), T Wright (17)

K - P Dawson (18)

D - Phi (20)

 
prgromek said:
Which team do you like better?

Team 1

QB - P Manning (3)

RB - E Lacy (1), G Bernard (2), C Johnson (6), J Starks (14)

WR - V Jackson (4), E Sanders (7), T Williams (8), K Stills (9), G Jennings (12), M Wheaton (13), S Smith (16), B LaFell (17), D Adams (20)

TE - D Pitta (5), E Ebron (11), O Daniels (15)

K - D Bailey (18)

D - Sea (10), KC (19)

Team 2

QB - C Newton (11), R Tannehill (19)

RB - R Mathews (4), S Jackson (7), MJD (8), D Freeman (9), D McFadden (12), D Brown (13)

WR - D Thomas (1), A Brown (2), P Garcon (3), D Jackson (6), T Austin (10), M Wheaton (14), O Beckham Jr (16)

TE - G Olsen (5), T Kelce (15), T Wright (17)

K - P Dawson (18)

D - Phi (20)
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Hey Paul how are you man...

I like team 1 a lot better personally, doesn't mean it will end up better but that would be my pick....

Good luck

 
Coots said:
prgromek said:
Which team do you like better?

Team 1

QB - P Manning (3)

RB - E Lacy (1), G Bernard (2), C Johnson (6), J Starks (14)

WR - V Jackson (4), E Sanders (7), T Williams (8), K Stills (9), G Jennings (12), M Wheaton (13), S Smith (16), B LaFell (17), D Adams (20)

TE - D Pitta (5), E Ebron (11), O Daniels (15)

K - D Bailey (18)

D - Sea (10), KC (19)

Team 2

QB - C Newton (11), R Tannehill (19)

RB - R Mathews (4), S Jackson (7), MJD (8), D Freeman (9), D McFadden (12), D Brown (13)

WR - D Thomas (1), A Brown (2), P Garcon (3), D Jackson (6), T Austin (10), M Wheaton (14), O Beckham Jr (16)

TE - G Olsen (5), T Kelce (15), T Wright (17)

K - P Dawson (18)

D - Phi (20)
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Hey Paul how are you man...

I like team 1 a lot better personally, doesn't mean it will end up better but that would be my pick....

Good luck
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thanks for the feedback champ. It's fun to do some early drafts and get a feel for how things are going to shake out this year

 
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