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Zac Stacy is the highest drafted 5th round or later NFL pick in dynast (1 Viewer)

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Zac Stacy has been getting drafted higher in rookie drafts than any other 5th round or later NFL RB draft pick.

His ADP is high/mid 2nd round in rookie drafts and he's going in the late 1st in quite a few.

Can anyone name any other RB's drafted that late that went so high in offseason rookie drafts?

 
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Situation, lack of better options and morris's success last year (we often try to get this years version of last years success).

Way too high for me, but its not too surprising. D Rogers went higher in a draft I'm in right now. How many undrafted guys go in the 2nd round?

 
I don't think it's an over-valuation of the player so much as its more or less the result of a weak RB class paired up with dynasty owners who need to build up that part of their roster. After Gio, Ball and Bell (who all seem to be going in the top 5 picks on average) there isn't a lot left to choose from. Lacy/Franklin are usually the RBs who follow after and they're likely to cut into each others production. After that Stacy is one of the next on the rookie RB list who has a shot at producing given the situation in STL. If you need a RB, that's pretty much what you're looking at.

I don't think it justifies taking him in the late first compared to the prospects at other positions (Id draft a more tradable player I don't really need first), but drafting for need is pretty much leading a lot of people into taking a 5th rounder that high.

 
FUBAR said:
Way too high for me, but its not too surprising. D Rogers went higher in a draft I'm in right now. How many undrafted guys go in the 2nd round?
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Can't remember this in any of my rookie drafts since 07.

 
Protocols of Stringer Bell said:
Wasn't playing dynasty back then but where did Onterrio Smith go? I drafted him as a starter in redraft league,
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He was drafted 4th round, 105 overall.

That was my first year in a Dynasty league and we didn't have a separate rookie draft. I took him in the 8th round right after some big news broke which caused his fantasy stock to skyrocket (can't remember what). Couldn't tell you where he was falling in rookie drafts.

 
Ryan Torain was a 5th round NFL pick but was going in the late first in most rookie drafts.

Michael Turner was a 5th round NFL pick but his draft position was a lot later.

 
FUBAR said:
Situation, lack of better options and morris's success last year (we often try to get this years version of last years success).Way too high for me, but its not too surprising. D Rogers went higher in a draft I'm in right now. How many undrafted guys go in the 2nd round?
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Seeing Rogers go ahead of Woods in multiple drafts seems insane to me. Do people think the UDFA is really going to be in a fair competition with a high 2nd rounder for playing time?Stacey and Rogers are two guys I haven't gotten and almost certainly won't get in any draft or auction.
 
Ignore draft position, look at measurables. Stacy is Doug Martin and Pead is LaGarrett Blount. It may take all of 2013, but my money is on Stacy long term.

 
Obviously I'm not saying spend an early pick on Stacy in a restart, but I don't think late 1st in dynasty is ridiculous.

 
The reason Michael Turner went so late in rookie drafts were pretty obvious. He went to San Diego when LT was in his prime and there was a bunch of better options in 2004. Seven 1st round rookie WRs (including Fitz, Roy Williams, Lee Evans, etc) and 8 running backs drafted ahead of Turner.

Ahmad Bradshaw was a late 7th round NFL pick but I had no problem reaching for him in the 3rd. I don't know what his ADP was.

 
Donnybrook said:
The reason Michael Turner went so late in rookie drafts were pretty obvious. He went to San Diego when LT was in his prime and there was a bunch of better options in 2004. Seven 1st round rookie WRs (including Fitz, Roy Williams, Lee Evans, etc) and 8 running backs drafted ahead of Turner.Ahmad Bradshaw was a late 7th round NFL pick but I had no problem reaching for him in the 3rd. I don't know what his ADP was.
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There was also the fact that he came out of Northern Illinois.
 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Donnybrook said:
The reason Michael Turner went so late in rookie drafts were pretty obvious. He went to San Diego when LT was in his prime and there was a bunch of better options in 2004. Seven 1st round rookie WRs (including Fitz, Roy Williams, Lee Evans, etc) and 8 running backs drafted ahead of Turner.Ahmad Bradshaw was a late 7th round NFL pick but I had no problem reaching for him in the 3rd. I don't know what his ADP was.
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There was also the fact that he came out of Northern Illinois.
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I remember there was still alot of FBG hype surronding Turner (especially from Switz). He still went in the 2nd round in my Zealots league.
 
LususV said:
Ignore draft position, look at measurables. Stacy is Doug Martin and Pead is LaGarrett Blount. It may take all of 2013, but my money is on Stacy long term.
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I'm guessing you are comparing the amount of weed they smoke or maybe the size of their **ck? If you are talking football, couldn't be more wrong.

I don't know who will start out of pead, richardson or stacy, but the whole thing reminds me of 2011 when Alex Green was taken by the Packers in the 3rd round. Dude went in the first round or high 2nd in every dynasty rookie draft. All I heard about was how the starting job was his by default. I gladly passed on him and looking back, I don't regret it.

As owner of Pead and Richardson, I thought about taking Stacy, if he made it to the third round of my draft. There is no way I would reach for him when 31 other NFL teams passed on him 5 different times in the draft. Sure he could end up being the starter, but the odds are not in his favor. Hence, I don't think I'll regret passing on him, just like Alex Green.

 
Wow. I assumed Stacy was a 2nd rounder from NFL draft. He went in the 1st in my 3 drafts.

What a horrible class. Glad I traded out entirely two of those drafts.

 
Keith Lewis said:
Wow. I assumed Stacy was a 2nd rounder from NFL draft. He went in the 1st in my 3 drafts.What a horrible class. Glad I traded out entirely two of those drafts.
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Gonna at least let the class play before considering it horrible?

 
There just ain't alot of other options avaialble in this draft class. Early 2nd/late 1st doesn't seem unreasonable high for this class.

 
In 1999 Cecil Collins of Miami was a 5th round NFL pick and went 8th in my rookie draft

Alf Morris went at 1.10 in 1 of my drafts last year he seemed to do ok for a 6th rounder. We draft in mid August in this league and Morris was listed as 3rd string on the day of the draft. We do a live draft old school league from 1997 we still do it the old fashion way get together and all draft a few weeks before the season starts at my house.

Kendell Hunter was going pretty high 2 years was a 4th round pick in the NFL. (mid 1st in Aug), (mid 2nd in May)

I seen Stacy go anywhere from pick 10 to pick 20 range in the FFPC drafts

Ontario Smith went 4th in mine back in the day.

 
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There just ain't alot of other options avaialble in this draft class. Early 2nd/late 1st doesn't seem unreasonable high for this class.
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Very true. Such a crap shoot at picks 14-40 might as well close your eyes and pick. Can't really mock any choice in this range. Just a matter of preference.

 
Keith Lewis said:
JPeso said:
Keith Lewis said:
Wow. I assumed Stacy was a 2nd rounder from NFL draft. He went in the 1st in my 3 drafts.What a horrible class. Glad I traded out entirely two of those drafts.
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Gonna at least let the class play before considering it horrible?
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why should I? It's what I believe and most people, fantasy "experts" agree.
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Doesn't have the star power as some of the prior classes, but the talk of the class being poor has been overblown imo. I've grown to like it. That said, Zac Stacy in the 1st is a tough one to swallow.

 
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I remember Cedric Peerman going around the same spot in some rookie drafts as a 6th round pick. Blame Waldman.

 
Yep. There aren't any sure fire-carry your team-type guys in this draft (or at least we think), but I think this draft if much deeper with good but not great players that can really fill a roster. I'm trying to get as many 2nd round picks as I can to cash in on whatever players fall. There is value to be had.

While someone takes Stacy and Rogers, I will sit back and reap the rewards of the players they let fall.

 
I disagree also with this being a deep draft. After about 2.6/2.7 it looks very ugly to me.

The sweet spot of the draft is from 1.10-2.3 where I feel any of those guys would be descent as the 1.7-1.9 of most drafts.

 
Keith Lewis said:
JPeso said:
Keith Lewis said:
Wow. I assumed Stacy was a 2nd rounder from NFL draft. He went in the 1st in my 3 drafts.What a horrible class. Glad I traded out entirely two of those drafts.
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Gonna at least let the class play before considering it horrible?
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why should I? It's what I believe and most people, fantasy "experts" agree.
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You "assumed Stacy was a 2nd rounder". Why does it matter what you believe? No offense.
 
Terrell Davis comes pretty close to being in a similar position, late drafted rookie with really weak competition(Glyn Milburn). I kind of doubt there were many dynasty leagues that started in 94 or earlier though. I started playing dynasty in 98 and it was a rather new concept then.

 
TD 6th round, Olandis Gary 4th, Mike Anderson 6th.

At this time any Shanny back was a good pick. It was always one getting hurt so you draft the new guy.

 
JPeso said:
Keith Lewis said:
Wow. I assumed Stacy was a 2nd rounder from NFL draft. He went in the 1st in my 3 drafts.What a horrible class. Glad I traded out entirely two of those drafts.
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Gonna at least let the class play before considering it horrible?
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From an objective standpoint, it is a pretty brutally poor draft for skill players. Take a draft value chart (any chart, doesn't matter), look at the total "value" spent on skill players, and it's maybe 2/3s what you'll see in a more normal draft. And most of that was spent on WRs, who are generally considered less valuable than RBs in dynasty drafts (at least if rookie draft ADP is anything to go by- late 1st round RBs are generally drafted around early 1st round WRs, and so on down the line).

 
Bri said:
TD 6th round, Olandis Gary 4th, Mike Anderson 6th.

At this time any Shanny back was a good pick. It was always one getting hurt so you draft the new guy.
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Denver wasn't seen as a very good landing spot for RBs when Terrell Davis was drafted. It wasn't really seen as a great place for RBs when Gary was drafted, either- the general idea was that Davis was responsible for the huge rushing numbers. It wasn't really until Anderson and Portis that Denver got the reputation as RB Nirvana.

 
Don't really care how good the situation looks, if the guy is avg talent and the coaches feel that way they will replace him in a heart beat; either in FA next season or next draft. If people are taking him solely on situation and not on talent their wasting a high draft pick.

 
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